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Apr 24, 3:09 AM
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Is it fair to say it? LoTR set the standard for Fantasy Fictions later on. Mushoku Tensei also did it with the Isekai genre.
Apr 24, 3:19 AM
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idk i didn't watch lord of the rings
Apr 24, 3:21 AM
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Not so sure. People tend to compare Frieren to LOTR.

Apr 24, 3:38 AM
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Frieren is the LOTR of anime.
Apr 24, 3:55 AM
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Oh Wow...I Never Thought Of It Like That
U Know What...I'd Say I Agree
Apr 24, 4:01 AM
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NeoSchizo said:
idk i didn't watch lord of the rings

thank you for this most interesting opinion of yours! xd
Apr 24, 4:15 AM
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I haven't watched LOTR but if it has an annoying and irredeemable character like rudeus then sure why not
Apr 24, 4:24 AM
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nope LoTR is loved by pretty much everyone unlike MT, plus it wasn't degenerate, so i'd disagree.
Apr 24, 4:37 AM
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Mushoku is pretty good show, but what standards it has set what other isekais follow? Honest guestion here, I don't watch that many isekais.
Apr 24, 4:55 AM
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Lol, no. It's not even close.
Apr 24, 5:36 AM
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i never wanna see this sentence ever again
Apr 24, 7:04 AM
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Lord of the Degenerates ๐Ÿ˜‚ I love the show, but it’s so not LOTR. Tolkien wrote a fantasy parallel to the First World War, with concurrent and divergent plot lines in multiple locations with multiple lead characters. MT is focused on one character’s development from degenerate shut-in to OP degenerate hero mage with lots of hard lessons and plenty of support.
No comparison makes sense.
Apr 24, 7:14 AM
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This retarded thinking shows how backward we actually are
Apr 24, 7:28 AM
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bro, wtf are you on
Apr 24, 7:28 AM
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I think a lot of people have misinterpreted your post. They seem to think you are making a direct comparison between LoTR and MT when you are talking about impact. It’s funny how they bash you when they can’t even comprehend the original post lmao.
Apr 24, 7:41 AM
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keinboesewicht said:
NeoSchizo said:
idk i didn't watch lord of the rings

thank you for this most interesting opinion of yours! xd

๐Ÿ™ (character limit)
Apr 24, 7:45 AM

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LoTR had way more influence on medieval fantasy than MT had on isekai.
Apr 24, 7:52 AM
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MahirBH7 said:
I haven't watched LOTR but if it has an annoying and irredeemable character like rudeus then sure why not

"Irredeemable" while having Johan and that edgy clown Yuichi in your favourites. Ah yes the hypocrisy. Goes hand in hand with Mushoku Tensei. Stupidity from the haters as well
Apr 24, 8:04 AM
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AshTheChamp said:
MahirBH7 said:
I haven't watched LOTR but if it has an annoying and irredeemable character like rudeus then sure why not

"Irredeemable" while having Johan and that edgy clown Yuichi in your favourites. Ah yes the hypocrisy. Goes hand in hand with Mushoku Tensei. Stupidity from the haters as well

Thanks for showcasing your stupidity. Comparing two completely different characters with completely different settings. This just shows your brain is too small to comprehend a complex character like Johan. You're better off sticking with a simple perverted character like Rudeus who gets fked over multiple times before learning a simple lesson.
Apr 24, 8:20 AM
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Ricdumb said:
I think a lot of people have misinterpreted your post. They seem to think you are making a direct comparison between LoTR and MT when you are talking about impact. It’s funny how they bash you when they can’t even comprehend the original post lmao.

That’s exactly what I thought when I read the comments, they didn’t take the time to read the post but they were very fast to laugh at it.

And by the way I do agree, MT set the stage for the others isekais.
Apr 24, 8:40 AM

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If LotR did Fantasy with big breasted Dog Girls and tackled romance with juvenile Fuckboy-Humor, sure.

But since most of Isekai really feels like Mushoku Tensei, but wirh less budget, you're probably right. I can see that.
Apr 24, 9:24 AM
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Lord of the rings alone did inspire a lot of mid evil fantasy in Japan that’s for sure
Apr 24, 10:06 AM

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nah bro, you crazy
Apr 24, 11:17 AM
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Fun Fact: the wonderful wizard of oz was the first isekai
Apr 24, 11:52 AM
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Wildest thing I’ve ever read in my 22 years of living don’t ever cook again
Apr 24, 12:48 PM
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Not fair to call something the “Lord of the Rings” of anime when most anime try to emulate the Lord of the Rings
Apr 24, 1:38 PM
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yeah, this series have same great world building like LOTR, when Rezero make great characters like ASOIAF
Apr 24, 2:06 PM
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Being the best isekei is like being the tallest kid in kindergarten. If we're just talking fantasy, there's much better out there.
Apr 24, 3:01 PM
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nishant0 said:
nope LoTR is loved by pretty much everyone unlike MT, plus it wasn't degenerate, so i'd disagree.

LotR sucks, it gets so much praise for being inventive and setting the standard for fantasy writing but all it does is mash a bunch of creatures and stories from folklore together.
It's also boring af, just walking for entire chapters then a meal followed by two paragraphs of plot before getting back to the walking.
The only thing Tolkien did that was groundbreaking was creating languages and scripts to write them in.
Apr 24, 3:02 PM
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FutoiOtaku said:
Lord of the Degenerates ๐Ÿ˜‚ I love the show, but it’s so not LOTR. Tolkien wrote a fantasy parallel to the First World War, with concurrent and divergent plot lines in multiple locations with multiple lead characters. MT is focused on one character’s development from degenerate shut-in to OP degenerate hero mage with lots of hard lessons and plenty of support.
No comparison makes sense.

LotR has nothing to do with real world politics it events, he was very clear about that.
Apr 24, 3:13 PM
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gintama_enjoyr said:
Fun Fact: the wonderful wizard of oz was the first isekai

1001 nights, tale of the bamboo cutter, the wonderful visit, urashima tarล, the Blazing visit, and tir na nÓg all disagree with you.
Apr 24, 3:31 PM
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N1nj4L1nk said:
FutoiOtaku said:
Lord of the Degenerates ๐Ÿ˜‚ I love the show, but it’s so not LOTR. Tolkien wrote a fantasy parallel to the First World War, with concurrent and divergent plot lines in multiple locations with multiple lead characters. MT is focused on one character’s development from degenerate shut-in to OP degenerate hero mage with lots of hard lessons and plenty of support.
No comparison makes sense.

LotR has nothing to do with real world politics it events, he was very clear about that.

Oversimplified opinion there, he was deeply influenced by his war experiences, there are whole books about it. But you sum it up with a simple denial. There are dozens of his own quotes stating how characters, situations and places are direct references to real experiences he lived through. The books weren’t a DIRECT account of ww1, but were full of parallels drawn from it.
Try reading this for a start:

https://blog.forceswarrecords.com/how-tolkiens-experiences-on-the-somme-in-world-war-one-inspired-his-famous-stories/

Just one of the first things google throws up, there’s much more…
Apr 24, 7:50 PM
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gintama_enjoyr said:
Fun Fact: the wonderful wizard of oz was the first isekai

Wow, Never thought of it. (UNSARCASTICALLY)

But the MC in The wizard of Oz returns to their world(the only other example I have is Eminence in Shadow)
Apr 24, 7:54 PM
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DoobieSam said:
Being the best isekei is like being the tallest kid in kindergarten. If we're just talking fantasy, there's much better out there.

The Isekai genre deserves something better I think. Something more mature and serious(for example The saga of Tanya the evil. I really like the Self proclaimed God vs Tanya part of the show though they only directly talk a few times only)
Apr 24, 7:57 PM
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AshTheChamp said:
MahirBH7 said:
I haven't watched LOTR but if it has an annoying and irredeemable character like rudeus then sure why not

"Irredeemable" while having Johan and that edgy clown Yuichi in your favourites. Ah yes the hypocrisy. Goes hand in hand with Mushoku Tensei. Stupidity from the haters as well

Bro have you even watched Monster?
Apr 25, 1:02 AM
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Yeah it makes sense.
Apr 25, 2:22 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
N1nj4L1nk said:

LotR has nothing to do with real world politics it events, he was very clear about that.

Oversimplified opinion there, he was deeply influenced by his war experiences, there are whole books about it. But you sum it up with a simple denial. There are dozens of his own quotes stating how characters, situations and places are direct references to real experiences he lived through. The books weren’t a DIRECT account of ww1, but were full of parallels drawn from it.
Try reading this for a start:

https://blog.forceswarrecords.com/how-tolkiens-experiences-on-the-somme-in-world-war-one-inspired-his-famous-stories/

Just one of the first things google throws up, there’s much more…

Right, so you're going to use some randos opinion instead of Tolkien"s actual words. Whatever you need to think you're right I guess. Have fun with that.
Apr 25, 3:02 AM
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N1nj4L1nk said:
FutoiOtaku said:

Oversimplified opinion there, he was deeply influenced by his war experiences, there are whole books about it. But you sum it up with a simple denial. There are dozens of his own quotes stating how characters, situations and places are direct references to real experiences he lived through. The books weren’t a DIRECT account of ww1, but were full of parallels drawn from it.
Try reading this for a start:

https://blog.forceswarrecords.com/how-tolkiens-experiences-on-the-somme-in-world-war-one-inspired-his-famous-stories/

Just one of the first things google throws up, there’s much more…

Right, so you're going to use some randos opinion instead of Tolkien"s actual words. Whatever you need to think you're right I guess. Have fun with that.

Child reply… some rando… can you be any more dismissive of the truth?
Soldiers who survive war are almost always withdrawn when asked to talk about it. They tend to use other outlets to do so. Did you even read the report by a professional researcher sorry rando? It includes several direct quotes from Tolkien which illuminate the above point. But being a sanctimonious know it all, you’ll dismiss everything outside a simple surprisingly ambiguous sentence to consider yourself right. Those who know know, I guess.
Apr 25, 3:53 AM

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No, not even close.
I would NEVER make this comparison.
Apr 25, 4:15 AM

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Yes pretty much. The influence MT LN has on other later Isekai is actually huge.

Ik it's hard to read but why is there comparison coming with LoTR. That is template for most Fantasy. And MT does same for Isekai. Every thing that copies is just diluted versions or meta/parodies.
Apr 25, 7:34 AM
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FutoiOtaku said:
N1nj4L1nk said:

Right, so you're going to use some randos opinion instead of Tolkien"s actual words. Whatever you need to think you're right I guess. Have fun with that.

Child reply… some rando… can you be any more dismissive of the truth?
Soldiers who survive war are almost always withdrawn when asked to talk about it. They tend to use other outlets to do so. Did you even read the report by a professional researcher sorry rando? It includes several direct quotes from Tolkien which illuminate the above point. But being a sanctimonious know it all, you’ll dismiss everything outside a simple surprisingly ambiguous sentence to consider yourself right. Those who know know, I guess.

Ignoring the words of the author himself to hide behind a third party that took snippets and twisted them to push their own narrative is exactly what I would expect from someone nearing retirement that watches teenager ecchi.

The reason I'm not putting more effort into this disagreement is precisely because of your shitty boomer attitude... and because you're blatantly a fucking nonce.
Apr 25, 11:39 AM
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True, I remember a whole arc in the Lord of the Rings centered on erectile dysfunction. While I’m not trashing on MT, but MT is no where near as good as LoTR, and I’m not a fan of either. It’s like comparing a steak house to a Dennys.
The right mindset when watching an anime is hoping that it will break your top 10
Apr 25, 12:38 PM
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N1nj4L1nk said:
FutoiOtaku said:

Child reply… some rando… can you be any more dismissive of the truth?
Soldiers who survive war are almost always withdrawn when asked to talk about it. They tend to use other outlets to do so. Did you even read the report by a professional researcher sorry rando? It includes several direct quotes from Tolkien which illuminate the above point. But being a sanctimonious know it all, you’ll dismiss everything outside a simple surprisingly ambiguous sentence to consider yourself right. Those who know know, I guess.

Ignoring the words of the author himself to hide behind a third party that took snippets and twisted them to push their own narrative is exactly what I would expect from someone nearing retirement that watches teenager ecchi.

The reason I'm not putting more effort into this disagreement is precisely because of your shitty boomer attitude... and because you're blatantly a fucking nonce.

And now you out yourself as a hateful fuckwit. Go die. ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป
Apr 25, 3:16 PM
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FutoiOtaku said:
N1nj4L1nk said:

Ignoring the words of the author himself to hide behind a third party that took snippets and twisted them to push their own narrative is exactly what I would expect from someone nearing retirement that watches teenager ecchi.

The reason I'm not putting more effort into this disagreement is precisely because of your shitty boomer attitude... and because you're blatantly a fucking nonce.

And now you out yourself as a hateful fuckwit. Go die. ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿป

There's nothing hateful about calling out paedophiles.

Hateful is telling someone to die when they expose the truth.
Apr 25, 7:32 PM
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Yes, perfect worldbuilding and storytelling, some peoples here saying Frieren is LOTR of isekai, but Frieren is not an isekai
Apr 26, 12:58 AM

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Didn't watch it, so don't know



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Apr 30, 11:02 AM
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sorry, but Chronicles of Narnia did it first.
May 10, 9:13 AM
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one of my top 100 anime
almost everything is great about it
May 15, 3:42 AM
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No. Mushoku walks a fine line between a compelling story and an incel power fantasy but on later chapters fully crosses that line.

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