| OH HELL NO ! DEI is a parasite that ruins entertainment products just look at American movies and games that were infected by DEI policies and how much of a failure it is Anime is Made by the Japanese for the Japanese, Aeni is made by the Koreans for the Koreans and Donghua is made by the Chinese for the Chinese. We don't want any negative western style influence in anime, otherwise it'd be no different from the western cartoons and movies that we tend to avoid. We want anime to remain JAPANESE (NO DEI) We want aeni to remain Korean (NO DEI) We want Donghua to remain Chinese (NO DEI) |
tchitchouanApr 15, 3:34 AM
| Okay, the penmanship looks familiar. Is that you ChatGPT? |
| I don't know. I mean, I personally never took issue with the lack of the representation. Which isn't to say that I'm opposed to anime giving more representation to other races and people of different sexual orientations. But it just hasn't been something I thought about when it comes to watching anime. And this is coming from someone of a darker complexion than the anime characters that are shown. I guess it can be a culture shock for Americans (like myself) since we're used to more diversity in shows. Although I do take issue from a real world perspective with how DEI is being treated in America during this new presidency. |
Prideful_LionApr 15, 3:44 AM
| cant wait for the entire DEI think to fall apart in next century and going back to level 1 society |
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| Anime is already DEI, most of this shit is outsourced to non-japanese sweatshops. |
| Bro, Americans are getting more delusional by the day. What's all this stuff about DEI? Next thing you'll talk about is how some anime is too woke. You're trying to apply a specifically American world view to something way outside of that paradigm. Nice rage bait. |
| Sacrificing sleep and sanity for more anime-induced dopamine. |
| Anime has had inclusion for a long time, Tezuka kind of started the anime like that... I think. |
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| I thought wokism was dying in the USA ever since Trump came. Anyone from there care to clarify this? Denjima said: There has been increasing criticism from certain groups claiming that anime lacks cultural diversity—saying that the characters are too homogeneous, not grounded in reality, lacking representation in terms of race, and having limited LGBTQ+ presence. That is by trying to expand cultural diversity everywhere you kill that very same diversity. Not everyone needs to be a Westerner, and the world is better like that. We are all humans on this planet, you don't need Melting Pots and Land of the Free everywhere. Now, I think megalopolis are a rich and wonderful thing, but local and cultural settings are equally important - whether it's small countryside events, a country -especially homogeneous ones like Japan-, or a specific ethnic. Anime doesn't discriminate. Everyone can watch it. But it doesn't mean it has to be realistic. The actual skin color in anime represents no one, not even the pale people. It's a misled debate and those very same critics attacked Genshin Impact despite its already widened diversity. You just can't take these seriously anymore. |
EldinisApr 15, 5:39 AM
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| Anime already have fags/dykes/traps/crossdressers/lolis it was never a problem until the normies showed up on tour. Stay in your lane please. |
ChandelaApr 15, 6:16 AM
| JD Vance’s Project 2025 manifesto includes a ban on Japanese anime and manga. Americans will live in a Curtis Yarvin-style monarchy, where the population venerates the Trump family and is limited to reading The Art of the Deal as state-sanctioned literature. |
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| The problem with American companies acquiring Japanese entertainment companies is that they will censor everything, and force them to insert American cultural elements into anime and manga to make them appeal to Americans, and not to Japanese people. They have a history of removing LGBTQ+ characters to appeal to Western sensibilities, not adding them in. All of those people complaining about anime's lack of cultural diversity are tourists who have never watched anime before. I bet they think that most anime characters are white, despite them being Japanese. The localizers cause anime to lack LGBTQ+ characters, as they consistently remove them. |
Denjima said: There has been increasing criticism from certain groups claiming that anime lacks cultural diversity—saying that the characters are too homogeneous, not grounded in reality, lacking representation in terms of race, and having limited LGBTQ+ presence. Since Utena is the best anime of all times and it has ethnic minorities and very strong LGBTQ elements, I'm not particularly anxious. Hopefully we get better anime with DEI. Tho I'll point out that while anime/manga has never been particularly inclusive in terms of races, it used to be much more progressive as far as women and LGBT content goes. Massive hits of the 70s-90s include Rose of Versaille, Macross (TV), Utena, Ranma 1/2, NGE... The last 20 years saw manga/anime become extremely reactionnary by comparison. this_shit_again said: Reporting this considering it breaks the rules.. Flare-ups you may experience regarding political ideas and beliefs in the united states extend beyond the scope of this forum section.. Username checks out lmao. Understandable reaction given it's probably the 10000th thread on the exact same far right fearmongering bullshit. Whiteingale said: cant wait for the entire DEI think to fall apart in next century and going back to level 1 society "Can't wait for gays to be persecuted again, I'll feel better knowing others are suffering" 💀💀💀 |
DeathkoApr 15, 6:58 AM
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Denjima said:
There has been increasing criticism from certain groups claiming that anime lacks cultural diversity—saying that the characters are too homogeneous, not grounded in reality, lacking representation in terms of race, and having limited LGBTQ+ presence.
There has been increasing criticism from certain groups claiming that anime lacks cultural diversity—saying that the characters are too homogeneous, not grounded in reality, lacking representation in terms of race, and having limited LGBTQ+ presence.
Since Utena is the best anime of all times and it has ethnic minorities and very strong LGBTQ elements, I'm not particularly anxious. Hopefully we get better anime with DEI.
Tho I'll point out that while anime/manga has never been particularly inclusive in terms of races, it used to be much more progressive as far as women and LGBT content goes. Massive hits of the 70s-90s include Rose of Versaille, Macross (TV), Utena, Ranma 1/2, NGE... The last 20 years saw manga/anime become extremely reactionnary by comparison.
this_shit_again said:
Reporting this considering it breaks the rules.. Flare-ups you may experience regarding political ideas and beliefs in the united states extend beyond the scope of this forum section..
Reporting this considering it breaks the rules.. Flare-ups you may experience regarding political ideas and beliefs in the united states extend beyond the scope of this forum section..
Username checks out lmao. Understandable reaction given it's probably the 10000th thread on the exact same far right fearmongering bullshit.
Whiteingale said:
cant wait for the entire DEI think to fall apart in next century and going back to level 1 society
cant wait for the entire DEI think to fall apart in next century and going back to level 1 society
"Can't wait for gays to be persecuted again, I'll feel better knowing others are suffering"
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Deathko said: will zoomercacas ever stop gaslighting... he should've put more skull emojis and fire emojis."Can't wait for gays to be persecuted again, I'll feel better knowing others are suffering" |
| I am just the admin of www.churro.club. |
| Anime doesn't actually need DEI because it never really got a problem with being culturally insensitive to diversities, women or minorities. In fact it was always surprising to me that some of the more "problematic" characters to western audiences (Mr. Popo, Usopp, Jynx from Pokémon) can be counted with one hand, and even so they aren't exactly racist caricatures but actually good characters whose only problem is that their design was inspired by an actual racist era of western animation (the 1930s). Aside from them there are more instances of really good PoC characters, particularly in series like Bleach or Soul Eater, or Michiko to Hatchin which is a great anime set in Brazil that doesn't make a caricature of its people or culture. Regarding LGBT+ people anime and manga has actually been pretty groundbreaking too, particularly by the women-led BL and yuri movement that started during the 1970s, or the gei comi movement (coloquially known as bara manga), movements that were pretty open and respectful of diversities. And some mainstream manga had characters that worked beyond the gender spectrum, like Hibari Oozora or Nakuru Akizuki/Ruby Moon from Cardcaptor Sakura. And don't get me started on female characters in japanese media because western feminism should have little to criticize about the way women characters are portrayed in japanese media. With so many mainstream women authors, and men authors who aren't mysoginists like for example Tatsuki Fujimoto, there are a lot of anime characters that go beyond the limitations of how women are portrayed in western media. This is why lots of female audiences love anime. |
AtromentinaApr 15, 7:10 AM
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| You stupid unitedstatians should just not be allowed to watch art and leave the real people alone |
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Anime doesn't actually need DEI because it never really got a problem with being culturally insensitive to diversities, women or minorities.
In fact it was always surprising to me that some of the more "problematic" characters to western audiences (Mr. Popo, Usopp, Jynx from Pokémon) can be counted with one hand, and even so they aren't exactly racist caricatures but actually good characters whose only problem is that their design was inspired by an actual racist era of western animation (the 1930s). Aside from them there are more instances of really good PoC characters, particularly in series like Bleach or Soul Eater, or Michiko to Hatchin which is a great anime set in Brazil that doesn't make a caricature of its people or culture.
Regarding LGBT+ people anime and manga has actually been pretty groundbreaking too, particularly by the women-led BL and yuri movement that started during the 1970s, or the gei comi movement (coloquially known as bara manga), movements that were pretty open and respectful of diversities. And some mainstream manga had characters that worked beyond the gender spectrum, like Hibari Oozora or Nakuru Akizuki/Ruby Moon from Cardcaptor Sakura.
And don't get me started on female characters in japanese media because western feminism should have little to criticize about the way women characters are portrayed in japanese media. With so many mainstream women authors, and men authors who aren't mysoginists like for example Tatsuki Fujimoto, there are a lot of anime characters that go beyond the limitations of how women are portrayed in western media. This is why lots of female audiences love anime.
In fact it was always surprising to me that some of the more "problematic" characters to western audiences (Mr. Popo, Usopp, Jynx from Pokémon) can be counted with one hand, and even so they aren't exactly racist caricatures but actually good characters whose only problem is that their design was inspired by an actual racist era of western animation (the 1930s). Aside from them there are more instances of really good PoC characters, particularly in series like Bleach or Soul Eater, or Michiko to Hatchin which is a great anime set in Brazil that doesn't make a caricature of its people or culture.
Regarding LGBT+ people anime and manga has actually been pretty groundbreaking too, particularly by the women-led BL and yuri movement that started during the 1970s, or the gei comi movement (coloquially known as bara manga), movements that were pretty open and respectful of diversities. And some mainstream manga had characters that worked beyond the gender spectrum, like Hibari Oozora or Nakuru Akizuki/Ruby Moon from Cardcaptor Sakura.
And don't get me started on female characters in japanese media because western feminism should have little to criticize about the way women characters are portrayed in japanese media. With so many mainstream women authors, and men authors who aren't mysoginists like for example Tatsuki Fujimoto, there are a lot of anime characters that go beyond the limitations of how women are portrayed in western media. This is why lots of female audiences love anime.
| @Atromentina Saying the only "problematic" (god that word sucks) things in DBZ are inspired by western culture is... kinda audacious tbh. I mean... Colonel Blue? The way every female character is treated? @Whiteingale 💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀 I just like spamming that shit ;). |
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| I really should ignore Trumpist threads, but I figure if people are so offended by stuff like Michiko & Hatchin, which partly exists because of the Brazilian audience, then you could just not watch it and go back to your wish fulfillment harem anime? I don't see why people need to be so offended by anime that does not interest them personally. |
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| You don't have to worry. Wokeism is non-existent in Anime especially since Japan is anti-woke. While its true some censorship exist in Anime, its due to Japanese TV regulations, not due to DEI/wokeism. The "criticism" from certain groups are just a bunch of anti-Japanese racists who want Anime to follow the same path as Western Animation. Since Japan and Anime fans are aware of what they want to do, we're in high alert to prevent such thing from happen. In the Anime community, we gatekeep such people from the community so they cannot claim they are Anime fans who want wokeism in the eyes of Japan while Japan is very aware of the West double standard and xenophobia against Japanese people. The entire reason why Anime/Manga is so successful is precisely because of no DEI. Let's see what happen, Marvel Rivals is probably the first Western title in more than 10 years who is trying to remove wokeism/DEI since they are making more femenine women and woke people are already complaning. I hope its a sign this harmful content is dying in the West but then I saw what they did with the DMC cartoon, I felt the same shit as always. Once Netflix stop being relevant, DEI/wokeism trend most likely dies so Japan is finally safe from such lunatics. @Gomizilla specifically American world view? It's something which happen in several non-American countries even in Europe or Latino American countries. Many non-Americans are aware of wokeism in media so, as Anime fans, we oppose it they do the same with Anime. We can never consider Anime woke is its an anti-woke media. We're against censorship of any kind |
NurguburuApr 15, 7:38 AM
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You don't have to worry. Wokeism is non-existent in Anime especially since Japan is anti-woke. While its true some censorship exist in Anime, its due to Japanese TV regulations, not due to DEI/wokeism. The "criticism" from certain groups are just a bunch of anti-Japanese racists who want Anime to follow the same path as Western Animation. Since Japan and Anime fans are aware of what they want to do, we're in high alert to prevent such thing from happen. In the Anime community, we gatekeep such people from the community so they cannot claim they are Anime fans who want wokeism in the eyes of Japan while Japan is very aware of the West double standard and xenophobia against Japanese people.
The entire reason why Anime/Manga is so successful is precisely because of no DEI.
Let's see what happen, Marvel Rivals is probably the first Western title in more than 10 years who is trying to remove wokeism/DEI since they are making more femenine women and woke people are already complaning. I hope its a sign this harmful content is dying in the West but then I saw what they did with the DMC cartoon, I felt the same shit as always. Once Netflix stop being relevant, DEI/wokeism trend most likely dies so Japan is finally safe from such lunatics.
@Gomizilla specifically American world view? It's something which happen in several non-American countries even in Europe or Latino American countries. Many non-Americans are aware of wokeism in media so, as Anime fans, we oppose it they do the same with Anime. We can never consider Anime woke is its an anti-woke media.
We're against censorship of any kind
The entire reason why Anime/Manga is so successful is precisely because of no DEI.
Let's see what happen, Marvel Rivals is probably the first Western title in more than 10 years who is trying to remove wokeism/DEI since they are making more femenine women and woke people are already complaning. I hope its a sign this harmful content is dying in the West but then I saw what they did with the DMC cartoon, I felt the same shit as always. Once Netflix stop being relevant, DEI/wokeism trend most likely dies so Japan is finally safe from such lunatics.
@Gomizilla specifically American world view? It's something which happen in several non-American countries even in Europe or Latino American countries. Many non-Americans are aware of wokeism in media so, as Anime fans, we oppose it they do the same with Anime. We can never consider Anime woke is its an anti-woke media.
We're against censorship of any kind
| @Nurguburu xenophobia towards japanese is basically non-existent since 3-4 decades. I work in a sector where 90% of my coworkers are xenophobic, they don't give a single fuck about japanese lmao. If anything they'll praise them for being competitive racists. |
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Denjima said: In July 2024, American investment firm Blackstone acquired a major Japanese digital manga publisher for $1.7 billion. This move has raised concerns about potential influences on the content and style of Japanese manga and anime, particularly regarding the incorporation of DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) and ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) principles into the industry. Since anime has gradually become more mainstream in Western countries, and with DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) now present and making an impact in entertainment fields like gaming and film, could anime/manga in the future follow a similar path? LMFAO! DEI failed in the west and is getting pulled back more day by day, no way is anime making the same mistake xD Denjima said: There has been increasing criticism from certain groups claiming that anime lacks cultural diversity—saying that the characters are too homogeneous, not grounded in reality, lacking representation in terms of race, and having limited LGBTQ+ presence. And to the people who say this about a medium that's from a place with a majority homogeneous population and have literal genres dedicated to LGBT characters, you might wanna check if you are grounded in reality... |
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@Nurguburu xenophobia towards japanese is basically non-existent since 3-4 decades. I work in a sector where 90% of my coworkers are xenophobic, they don't give a single fuck about japanese lmao. If anything they'll praise them for being competitive racists.
| @Deathko ???? Xenophobia towards Japanese people is very very common, even in this site, I read people especially some Americans leftists saying Japan should be nuked again due to the "problematic" content they create, falsely saying Japan is "full" of rapists/pedophiles, using anti-Japanese slurs and the user above me in my first comment said in other thread once its ok to be xenophobic against Japanese people and Japanese culture and Japan in general due to their Imperial past (the user said it such comment since others were complaning about anti-Japanese sentiment when they talk about Anime), they are literally saying if you like Japanese things and defend it, you support Japan Imperial past, what's wrong with such people? Erasing or downplaying racism against Japanese people is not ok. |
NurguburuApr 15, 7:59 AM
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| Japan is mostly aware of how prioritizing diversity, representation and agenda pushing completely ruined western comics and video games, so I highly doubt they would even try to follow the same path of self destruction. At least not willingly. |
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| DEI is about removing barriers for minorities and reducing discrimination. 98% of people in Japan are Japanese. I've heard blood types are something that can be discriminated against, but that's such an invisible characteristic I can't imagine that having an effect on anime. If you tried to shoehorn in minorities into anime that would only make it less realistic. |
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| For fucks sake people....DEI is a hiring practice. Anime is made in Japan. Japan is made of mostly Japanese people. So no, there's not going to be "DEI" in anime unless your braindead ass thinks having non Japanese characters makes something DEI. Which, much like censorship, has already been a thing in anime for years. You going to tell me Durarara is DEI for having a black guy in it? And if we're going to cry DEI at gay themes, I guess all the yuri and yaoi stuff that already exists is DEI. Oh wait...It's not. Because again...It's a fucking hiring practice. It has nothing to do with the characters or the plots and themes in a Japanese cartoon. What, did DEi replace "woke" as the stand in for "things I don't like" in your world? And I didn't break my own new rule. I specifically said I wouldn't engage with anyone who used "woke". And OP didn't technically use it. Not that anyone but me cares that I said this.. |
FanofActionApr 15, 8:25 AM
| hey, if it means more yuri i'm all for it |
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| @this_shit_again has the perfect username to describe this topic. |
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Anime has had inclusion for a long time, Tezuka kind of started the anime like that... I think.
| @Absurdo_N yeah just look at gundam or BL & GL. If people want more diversity than just read comics from other countries other than Japan or the USA. Same thing with cartoons. |
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| Jesus fucking Christ not this racist conspiracy bullshit again. A thread with this topic got locked MONTHS ago because of racism. If you are against Diversity Equality, and Inclusion you are anti-human as these are the core values that lead to a more prosperous species |
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| Yall do know by western standards, like 99% of anime is already DEI by the virtue of all the characters being Asian, right? Just be honest that you're racist and homophobic instead of throwing around buzzwords that don't even apply to what you're talking about. |
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Yall do know by western standards, like 99% of anime is already DEI by the virtue of all the characters being Asian, right? Just be honest that you're racist and homophobic instead of throwing around buzzwords that don't even apply to what you're talking about.
| @BubblegumPatty How is such thing racist or even homophobic? DEI is just another word for woke and SJW which they mean forced representation, they have nothing to do against the existence of something. Having Asian characters don't make an Anime DEI, woke or sjw. In fact, wokeism think and claim they are white characters due to their light skin colour and they mad about it due to "lack of diversity" especially Anime supposedly lack black characters and woke people blackwash Asian characters to "fix" them (remember the Dandadan anti-Asian incident on Twitter?). People are not against inclusion or even existence of such people, they are against forced inclusion which it harms the people who claim to include promoting harmful stereotypes and annoy the original consumers who want to see characters where their personality or traits don't revolve around their sex/race/sexual oritentacion, they want to see them as fun characters instead of just a walking propaganda which its the very opposite of not being inclusive. Such "buzzwords" exist for a reason, even several LGBT+, black and Latino people are against forced representation so are you going to say they are somehow homophobic and racist now? You have no idea of what are you talking about. |
NurguburuApr 15, 9:44 AM
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@Atromentina Saying the only "problematic" (god that word sucks) things in DBZ are inspired by western culture is... kinda audacious tbh. I mean... Colonel Blue? The way every female character is treated?
@Whiteingale
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I just like spamming that shit ;).
@Whiteingale
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I just like spamming that shit ;).
| @Deathko I am being selectively blind to the most dubious aspects of Dragon Ball for the sake of my point. Also Chichi and Bulma are tops actually. |
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| The people against DEI now would be against women voting 50 years ago and slaves being free however many decades ago. You lack critical thinking skills, because your preconceived notions about what's important in the world excluded you from taking well-rounded liberal arts courses that would've taught you that the best way to combat hatred is exposure to those diverse groups. But a single man dodging 100 bullets is totally fine and "immersive" for you. |
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@Atromentina Saying the only "problematic" (god that word sucks) things in DBZ are inspired by western culture is... kinda audacious tbh. I mean... Colonel Blue? The way every female character is treated?
@Whiteingale
💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀
I just like spamming that shit ;).
@Whiteingale
💀💀💀🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥💀💀💀
I just like spamming that shit ;).
| @Deathko Deathko said: Colonel Blue His rank is General actually and he was in the original Dragon Ball and not DBZ. |
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Jesus fucking Christ not this racist conspiracy bullshit again. A thread with this topic got locked MONTHS ago because of racism. If you are against Diversity Equality, and Inclusion you are anti-human as these are the core values that lead to a more prosperous species
| @LSSJ_Gaming LSSJ_Gaming said: No, it will actually lead to downfall and end of humanityIf you are against Diversity Equality, and Inclusion you are anti-human as these are the core values that lead to a more prosperous species |
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The people against DEI now would be against women voting 50 years ago and slaves being free however many decades ago. You lack critical thinking skills, because your preconceived notions about what's important in the world excluded you from taking well-rounded liberal arts courses that would've taught you that the best way to combat hatred is exposure to those diverse groups. But a single man dodging 100 bullets is totally fine and "immersive" for you.
| @lezbuns Do you know anti-DEI sentiment isn't limited to USA? It's quite common among even African countries or Asian countries so what is going to be your excuse then? The world doesn't revolve around you, Americans. Pretty obvious DEI being used in a negative manner means forced representation like woke and sjw are and I like said above. So trying to demonize a side saying they will be against women voting or slaves being free is not going to work, you are cleary not considering the amount of black, latinos, women, and sexual minorities being anti-DEI, anti-woke, etc. Anti-woke people are more inclusive than you think, so being wary about forced representation in Anime makes sense since we priorize enjoyment over forced representation. The best way to combat hatred is not being authoritarian. Edit: no wonder why NY is becoming a swing state due the comments you make lol. |
NurguburuApr 15, 11:12 AM
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| do you all know that american and european companies have helped produced anime since the 70s lol? western involvement in anime is nothing new. most anti-dei people use dei in place of slurs anyway or chimp out if they see a woman or a minority in something. also anime/manga showed gay characters before a lot of western animated stuff did (sailor moon, cardcaptor sakura, rose of versailles, etc). why get upset over such a nothingburger issue |
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| Japan isn't too fond of foreigners either so I would not worry too much about dei there yet. That is an advantage of their homogeneous society. I remember Japan despised AC shadows. That was comedy gold, and many nuiscence streamers are helping people wake up to the evil of dei. It is funny all this dei funding comes from an area with aparthied. |
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do you all know that american and european companies have helped produced anime since the 70s lol? western involvement in anime is nothing new. most anti-dei people use dei in place of slurs anyway or chimp out if they see a woman or a minority in something.
also anime/manga showed gay characters before a lot of western animated stuff did (sailor moon, cardcaptor sakura, rose of versailles, etc). why get upset over such a nothingburger issue
also anime/manga showed gay characters before a lot of western animated stuff did (sailor moon, cardcaptor sakura, rose of versailles, etc). why get upset over such a nothingburger issue
| @Eggyy Do you know why DEI is being used in this context? Being anti-DEI in Anime means being against forced representation/inclusion, it has nothing to being against the existence of such characters or even inclusion. It's like being anti-woke. Your claim being anti-DEI is another way of saying slurs or wherever is supposedly against is completely destroyed by the fact many black, women, latinos and LGBT+ people are anti-woke/anti-DEI and don't want forced representation in media. So trying to demonize a side is going to have the contrary effect. OP and many people like me aren't upset about their existence, we're just against such people being used in innappropiate ways like western animation does since it promotes hatred and awful stereotypes where no one win at the end except people who support such things, that's why its called forced since its forced. I've know many progressives who are racist and -phobic and support such harmful representations we're complaining and they love to use to dehumanize to the other side (just look another user saying "you are anti-human" if you are against DEI in Anime when the user clearly know what people is talking about). Even so, MAL rules are against discrimination of any kind so being against people for their existence is not the point of anyone in this thread just like I said, especially me and several users who are against it. |
NurguburuApr 15, 11:35 AM
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@Deathko
His rank is General actually and he was in the original Dragon Ball and not DBZ.
Deathko said:
Colonel Blue
Colonel Blue
His rank is General actually and he was in the original Dragon Ball and not DBZ.
| @JoeChip It's been ages, you're right, he was General. I don't really make a difference between DB and Z, the distinction is an anime thing as far as I'm aware, and I'm more familiar with the manga. I just default to calling it DBZ 99% of the time ;) |
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hey, if it means more yuri i'm all for it
| @gongaskino Dei would mean masculine ugly women going at it. Dei demonizes the the male gaze which is the yuri you like (Yuru Yuri, Machikado, ect). |
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Reply to Nurguburu
@Eggyy Do you know why DEI is being used in this context? Being anti-DEI in Anime means being against forced representation/inclusion, it has nothing to being against the existence of such characters or even inclusion. It's like being anti-woke. Your claim being anti-DEI is another way of saying slurs or wherever is supposedly against is completely destroyed by the fact many black, women, latinos and LGBT+ people are anti-woke/anti-DEI and don't want forced representation in media. So trying to demonize a side is going to have the contrary effect. OP and many people like me aren't upset about their existence, we're just against such people being used in innappropiate ways like western animation does since it promotes hatred and awful stereotypes where no one win at the end except people who support such things, that's why its called forced since its forced. I've know many progressives who are racist and -phobic and support such harmful representations we're complaining and they love to use to dehumanize to the other side (just look another user saying "you are anti-human" if you are against DEI in Anime when the user clearly know what people is talking about). Even so, MAL rules are against discrimination of any kind so being against people for their existence is not the point of anyone in this thread just like I said, especially me and several users who are against it.
| being against shameless pandering isn't being anti dei or woke lol? people obviously recognize half-ass attempts at diversity, tho many anti-woke people hate genuine attempts of representation. even if queer people or minorities make original characters/stories, they still claim it's part of the "woke agenda." im mainly referring to people who chimp out about dei because they see a black person or a gay person in something, they clearly want to call them something else lol. anti-woke people would say that rose of versailles and afro samurai are "forced representation" if they came out today, or shit like samurai champloo is appealing to "hood weebs" because it has rap music in it. |
EggyyApr 15, 11:50 AM
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