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Apr 4, 4:10 PM
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Why is SLF in the Isekai category? SLF is a VR game living beings play in the living world.
I'd get it if it's a SAO situation with the players being in a coma but SLF?
Am I misunderstanding what the "Isekai" tag really mean?



Apr 4, 4:20 PM
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They are using it to call the anime shit and generic with game mechanics and menus. Do not fret.
Apr 4, 4:29 PM
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They gave Demon Slayer best fantasy over Mushoku Tensie what did you expect.
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shit and generic

4 of the pionier of the genre is shit & generic, lmao.
Apr 4, 4:36 PM
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I just googled the show because I never heard of it. But it looks like everyone is calling it an isekai.

Shangri-La Frontier Is an Isekai-Lite Slice-of-Life Anime

https://screenrant.com/crunchyroll-shangri-la-frontier-isekai-season-2-disappointing/


All Hail the King of Isekai: Shangri-La Frontier Has Already Outclassed SAO and Re:Zero by Doing the One Thing They Both Failed At

Yes, in case you might not be aware, but Shangri-La Frontier is indeed an isekai series! It’s understandable why some people think it’s not because it doesn’t have the full isekai vibe where you reincarnate as someone else, but the word ‘isekai’ simply means getting transported to another world.

https://fandomwire.com/all-hail-the-king-of-isekai-shangri-la-frontier-has-already-outclassed-sao-and-rezero-by-doing-the-one-thing-they-both-failed-at/
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Apr 4, 4:38 PM
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idk.. All my homies voted for Konosuba
Apr 4, 4:46 PM
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A while ago I saw a Japanese infographic that grouped Shangri-La (VRMMORPG) and 7th Prince (reincarnation within the same fantasy world) together with some isekai anime, so I'm not sure how they see things over there... on MAL it isn't considered an isekai for sure.
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How would I know if I don't even watch isekai anime?
Apr 4, 4:54 PM
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I just googled the show because I never heard of it. But it looks like everyone is calling it an isekai.

Shangri-La Frontier Is an Isekai-Lite Slice-of-Life Anime

https://screenrant.com/crunchyroll-shangri-la-frontier-isekai-season-2-disappointing/


All Hail the King of Isekai: Shangri-La Frontier Has Already Outclassed SAO and Re:Zero by Doing the One Thing They Both Failed At

Yes, in case you might not be aware, but Shangri-La Frontier is indeed an isekai series! It’s understandable why some people think it’s not because it doesn’t have the full isekai vibe where you reincarnate as someone else, but the word ‘isekai’ simply means getting transported to another world.

https://fandomwire.com/all-hail-the-king-of-isekai-shangri-la-frontier-has-already-outclassed-sao-and-rezero-by-doing-the-one-thing-they-both-failed-at/
@Yaggamy Dang. That's interesting.

Having Googled it now, the official definition I find so far is this: (from "Oxford Dictionary"... apparently; IDK xD)
Isekai , noun: "A Japanese genre of science or fantasy fiction featuring a protagonist who is transported to or reincarnated in a different, strange, or unfamiliar world. Also: an anime, manga, video game, etc., in this genre. Frequently as a modifier."
I guess technically, it counts as Isekai-- assuming the Oxford Definition is accurate to the originally intended meaning.
It's just weird since SLF isn't really a "different world" but just a video game being played by the characters.


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Nirinbo said:
A while ago I saw a Japanese infographic that grouped Shangri-La (VRMMORPG) and 7th Prince (reincarnation within the same fantasy world) together with some isekai anime
I think that's the answer I'm looking for-- if Japan themselves decided it's an Isekai, then SLF must really be considered as Isekai.
I can now snooze in peace. xD (I do wish they just separate the Isekai genre from the Video Game ones.)


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Yeah, that’s weird. I don’t consider SLF as an isekai show whatsoever.
Apr 4, 5:27 PM

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First of all, what's up with all the Crunchyroll Awards hype?
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Isekai just means "different world" "other world". It doesn't always mean they died and went to another world. Although the generic ones tend to be based on this concept of dying and going to a new world, but in this case, the VR world is basically like another world since 95% of it is based in another world.

It's easier to just pile it all into isekai since that's mainstream, but it doesn't exactly have to be isekai, as there's other genres it can fall under as well.

It's also listed as a video game genre on this site but then in that case, any video game genre can be an isekai if they're spending most of the anime in this video game, other world/VR world, escape reality.
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First of all, what's up with all the Crunchyroll Awards hype?
@TRC_Randy I don’t get the sentiment either. People trash on it every single year, and yet they just can’t stop voting for their favorite anime, hoping to win the very award they hate. This cycle will just make the award more and more popular, and that’s how we all see the hype today.
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I don't see it on the picture.
Where is it?
Apr 4, 6:14 PM

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No idea. Could be that they're grouping it together now, it wouldn't be the first time that they had questionable categories.
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chronofantasy said:
Isekai just means "different world" "other world". It doesn't always mean they died and went to another world.
Yeah. I just learned that even Inuyasha is somewhat being considered as "Isekai" even though 1) Kagome didn't have to die to end up in Inuyasha's time period, and 2) (Speaking of...) it was just a past- mythological?- time period in the same timeline as Kagome's.

I miss those times when "Fantasy", "Sci-fi", and "Isekai" Anime are entirely separate things.


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Jozuwa-_- said:
I miss those times when "Fantasy", "Sci-fi", and "Isekai" Anime are entirely separate things.

Isekai has never been entirely separate from Fantasy or Sci-fi. Before the term Isekai was coined, series like The Twelve Kingdoms or Now and Then, Here and There were just considered Fantasy or Sci-fi. Travelling to another world is just a trope of Fantasy and Sci-fi genres.
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Technically the mind is transported to another world, a game world, if that should be called isekai has already been debated for many years.
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First of all, what's up with all the Crunchyroll Awards hype?
@TRC_Randy Having "Award Winning" Genre on their favorite anime makes them cool, i guess.
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chronofantasy said:
Isekai just means "different world" "other world". It doesn't always mean they died and went to another world.
Yeah. I just learned that even Inuyasha is somewhat being considered as "Isekai" even though 1) Kagome didn't have to die to end up in Inuyasha's time period, and 2) (Speaking of...) it was just a past- mythological?- time period in the same timeline as Kagome's.

I miss those times when "Fantasy", "Sci-fi", and "Isekai" Anime are entirely separate things.
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Kagome didn't have to die to end up in Inuyasha's time period

Not every isekai is Reincarnation (e.g. Dying and then get reincarnated to another world), others just get teleported to another world like in Rougo ni Sonaete Isekai de 8-manmai no Kinka wo Tamemasu or in Arifureta Shokugyou de Sekai Saikyou.

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Inuyasha isn't an isekai, but time travel. It's about as much an isekai as Steins;Gate in that sense. Actually, time travel stories which explicitly acknowledge the existence of multiple or near-infinite parallel universes, some explored/created in part as a function of the time travel itself, neither of which Inuyasha or the quintessential time travel-centric anime series, Steins;Gate, do, are arguably moreso a form of isekai but even they I don't view as such. Because a universe inextricably tied to one it mirrors with so much the same or very similar and only a few details changed around is a far cry from the radically separate universes with entirely different cosmos, species and biology - virtually everything about them. Or everything about them the author thinks to and can be bothered to include, design, and specify.

I don't consider Shangri-La Frontier or any of the ones involving characters simply playing a console or computer-based video game to be isekai at all either. It's much more ambiguous and arguably qualifies if there is something mystical or supernatural at play where they (their consciousnesses, at least) become "stuck" or "trapped" in the video game, such as with last summer's Kono Sekai wa Fukanzen Sugiru, or the world of the video game and everyone/everything in it somehow becomes truly alive and breaks away to become its own separate universe or something to that effect (I haven't personally watched it, but I understand this is the case in a series like Overlord?). But otherwise? No way.

But when it comes to labeling things, classifying and organizing genres in literature and film - and of course that naturally extends to anime - has never been some universally agreed upon and objective exact science. It's always been a province of subjectivity and debate. If even fields like taxonomy are at the core somewhat arbitrary and fabricated, then how can film and TV genres not be? Ultimately people will just settle on whichever definitions and understandings they have either been taught and are familiar with or have otherwise come to feel most comfortable with. It's the same as with the discussion/debate over "high fantasy" I've had on here before several times - which is a term that holds multiple different meanings. In that spirit, some will consider series like SLF and many others I view as definitively non-isekai to be so, but they can do what they will. It will never change my stance on it or view and understanding of the series. Doubt that there'll ever be a universally assented to position on these.


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Isekai just means "different world" "other world". It doesn't always mean they died and went to another world. Although the generic ones tend to be based on this concept of dying and going to a new world, but in this case, the VR world is basically like another world since 95% of it is based in another world.

It's easier to just pile it all into isekai since that's mainstream, but it doesn't exactly have to be isekai, as there's other genres it can fall under as well.

It's also listed as a video game genre on this site but then in that case, any video game genre can be an isekai if they're spending most of the anime in this video game, other world/VR world, escape reality.
@chronofantasy in this case even solo leveling is isekai
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Shangri-La Frontier, as well as, SAO are also included in the Isekai x Isekai game together with famous isekai titles.

https://isekaiisekai.jp/
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Yeah, I caught that too. Even came up on CR's Podcast, as well. SLF is NOT an Isekai. It's gamers playing games. SAO first Season 1st Cour is Isekai, but not later. This is a slippery slope. LOL
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idk.. All my homies voted for Konosuba
@Neterosan And I am one. ROFLMAO. ( Char. limit.)
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@chronofantasy in this case even solo leveling is isekai
@Yonahim_Zz honestly I always thought it was odd when a whole other category had to be made called "isekai" just because SAO came out and then a bunch of anime tried to copy it after its success and we ended up getting a bunch of ones with people dying and going to another world over time.

.//Hack did this sort of similar thing before and was sort of popular at the time, but from what I remember, it used to only be a fantasy or adventure genre. Even plenty of other anime far before this did that as well. There's lots of fantasy anime which can technically be an isekai if they just go to another world in some way or another. Even an old Mario anime from the 80s did this as well and who knows how many others.

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