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Mar 31, 7:56 PM
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It seems like with every anime, there’s always some form of problematic messaging in it. And personally I just don’t get it.

Japanese media is filled with some of the most compassionate and inspiration films, shows, and games out there. But, when it comes to anime and manga, for some reason it’s an entirely different beast. Ignoring the ones that sexualize minors or promote slavery, nearly all the anime I’ve watched tend to have morally repugnant and deplorable messages that can harm certain groups in real life.

Here are some examples:
1) Frieren is 100% fascist propaganda with the way it treats its demon race.
2) Attack on Titan is imperialistic nationalism and is pro-genocide
3) Apothecary diaries glorifies SA
4) Spy x family glorifies incest
5) Orb movement of the earth is anti-religion

There are many more examples of this that we could go all day.

Why is this the case? Are mangaka really just bad people? Or are they so socially inept they don’t know how to make something that offers a decent message?

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Mar 31, 8:18 PM
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It's only problematic if you make it out to be that way.
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Mar 31, 8:22 PM
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And a merry and joyous April Fool's to you as well.
Mar 31, 8:26 PM
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Assuming this isn't an april fools day thread, it is true that a lot of mangakas are weird people. It takes a certain kind of person to do that job lol

Are you sure you're not just doing a bad job at picking anime you'd like? There's plenty of anime out there that doesn't have anything you might deem odd in it, and looking at your profile you've clearly seen plenty of series like that.
Mar 31, 8:37 PM
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You lost me at orb is anti religion, i mean the others u said are bunch bs too.

This gotta be some april fools joke 10/10 ragebait almost got me
Mar 31, 8:54 PM
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Bananya is not too problematic. Watch Bananya.

Mar 31, 9:07 PM
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Unfortunately when it comes to the Frieren is fascist propaganda one you actually have nutjob leftists on reddit and twitter unironically making that argument. I've heard similar stuff about the AoT one as well.
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Mar 31, 9:09 PM
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Spy X Family doesn't "glorify" incest...There's like...one guy who constantly thinks about incest, and he constantly gets his ass handed to him. But I might be rusty on that series, so I'll use an example from recent memory. Kyouichirou Yozakura from Yozakura Family. Obsessed with his sister, always gets his ass beat. Again, how does that glorify anything? Do violent tsunders glorify unprompted violence against males?

Normally I'd go on my whole rant about fiction. Maybe compare live action fiction to non-live action. Blah Blah Blah. But I had to zero in on the one thing I knew I could make a statement about, that, on paper, shouldn't be controversial. Because I really don't think OP knows what "glorify" even means...But, I'm open to being called out if I'm wrong

Mar 31, 9:13 PM
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Every day it becomes harder and harder to detect jokes on the internet...

I'm almost impressed that literally every single one of those examples are terrible examples, so I'm inclined to believe this is a great April Fools joke. But even then it was a little too disturbing.
Mar 31, 9:29 PM

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Is this bait or mental retardation?
Mar 31, 9:33 PM

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Also don't you think it's weird that a lot of anime has characters with Japanese names that speak Japanese who live in Japan?
Mar 31, 9:40 PM

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Yea it's true.

Frieren is alluring, all these fascists are hyping it without knowing they are brainwashed.

AoT promotes civilization collapse and humanity extinction through genocide means.

Apothecary diaries is bent on procuring

Spy x Family. No comment on Anya.

I don't know the last one, but all you've said is true so I'll believe you on this one.

So, yea! mangaka are horrible outcasts that should try a few days in lolicon jail to be redeemed.

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After reading other commentsn here it appears that most aren't buying your argument. Some of the topics you covered such as slavery are presented as negative societal aspects where most often the MC engages in either buying them to give them freedom or engaging in battles to set them free. I find most of the problems you listed in this format.
Mar 31, 9:43 PM

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It's not April 1st in some places yet... Take responsibility OP.
Mar 31, 9:47 PM

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Is this bait or mental retardation?
@MYZIC This is 100% bait, probably for April fools.
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Runasius said:
1) Frieren is 100% fascist propaganda with the way it treats its demon race.
2) Attack on Titan is imperialistic nationalism and is pro-genocide
3) Apothecary diaries glorifies SA
4) Spy x family glorifies incest
5) Orb movement of the earth is anti-religion


lol Even if this wasn't an April Fools joke, if Users actually thought such things of the titles you have listed, they obviously take Anime way too seriously for it being a fictional medium. lol


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Good art comes from weirdos and outcasts channeling their sexual energy.
And I say this unironically.
Mar 31, 9:53 PM
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The only problematic messaging I see and despise is the constant manipulation of Gen Z and Millennials with big jiggly breasted female characters and also constant oops I fell down on my female party member and inadvertantly grabbed her breasts and now I am in shock. For people who have actually been around long enough to have had lots of sex it is unimpressive and unnecessary even a little annoying.
The other thing I hate is high pitched squealy voice acting. I highly appreciate normal adult voices. I would rather hear the genuine voices of the actors. If the character is very young I'm sure something can be worked out with a reasonable facsimile of a young voice without the squeally voices. Unfortunately my favorite genre Isakai is replete with such VA.
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Bananya is not too problematic. Watch Bananya.

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I'm sure it made some kids cry seeing a banana get eaten thinking it could be a bananya.
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Mar 31, 10:00 PM

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Good to see another poster pointing how pathetic Apothecary Diaries has become.
Mar 31, 10:18 PM

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Good to see another poster pointing how pathetic Apothecary Diaries has become.
@Oppai_Loli_God

It’s funny when you see a lot of people use it as an example of female empowerment in fiction.
Mar 31, 10:25 PM

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As an American liberal, Frieren is based for killing those beasts.

Mar 31, 10:29 PM

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diddy ahh gooner epstein anime fans fr
Mar 31, 10:29 PM

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Oh my Hitler, I almost fell for it until I checked the clock.
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Mar 31, 10:37 PM

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Yes, all of them are absolutely terrible, they need to be purged. Let’s gather our strength and drop Super Spirit Bomb to the whole Japan to make sure those evils are gone for good.
Apr 1, 12:04 AM

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Ah, April Fool's... How I love thee... The few days, factoring time zones, where the Internet manages to be even more annoying than usual.
Apr 1, 12:28 AM

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10/10 rage bait, almost got me - Good Aprill Fools to you too
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I really hope it's an April fools joke.

But yes as facist I love Frieren sama. Heil Frieren. She is our saviour from demonic-bolshevism.
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i dont see anything wrong with any of the 5 examples you listed.

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Apr 1, 1:42 AM

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That Frieren thing sounds based af. I'll need to get into it asap.
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Audiences likes to watch problem. So showing problems makes a proper thriller type anime. People don't watch anime if there are no critical problems. This is the absolute way to attract audience.
Apr 1, 4:46 AM

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There's no problem with problematic anime.
Apr 1, 7:48 AM

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Because non-problematic anime are boring and you're lame.
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5) Orb movement of the earth is anti-religion

Isn't being anti-religion non-problematic these days?
Apr 1, 9:57 AM

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Man I hate April Fools, I was prepared to take this at face value bc It's unironically the shit the nuttiest corners of Tumblr and Twitter spit up. ;-;
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Runasius said:
It seems like with every anime, there’s always some form of problematic messaging in it. And personally I just don’t get it.

Japanese media is filled with some of the most compassionate and inspiration films, shows, and games out there. But, when it comes to anime and manga, for some reason it’s an entirely different beast. Ignoring the ones that sexualize minors or promote slavery, nearly all the anime I’ve watched tend to have morally repugnant and deplorable messages that can harm certain groups in real life.

Here are some examples:

Runasius said:
1) Frieren is 100% fascist propaganda with the way it treats its demon race.
Bullshit

Runasius said:
2) Attack on Titan is imperialistic nationalism and is pro-genocide
Bullshit

Runasius said:
3) Apothecary diaries glorifies SA
ABSOLUTE Bullshit

Runasius said:
4) Spy x family glorifies incest
Bullshit... seriously you couldn't find a better example for "glorifies incest"?

Runasius said:
5) Orb movement of the earth is anti-religion
It is not anti-religion, it is anti-ignorance


edit: I just remembered it's april 1st... but considering the threads you start when it's not april fools i am still confused on whether you're being serious or not
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Im 100% sure this is bait or April fools.


But I have a counter question why do west find problematic issues EVERY where and why do western people have a hard time differentiate between fantasy and reality ? It´s not real it should not make sense it should not align with your world views.

If I make an anime or game about an alien planet that only has females on it. It´s not because I hate male it´s because I made up a world that is NOT based on earth so earth rules does not apply. Same thing If I make one that has 0 gay people on the planet it´s not because I hate gay it´s because I decided to make A FICTIONAL world that to represent modern earth. Hell I could make one with a planet full of fem boys and gay men or a planet full of racist elves.

When it comes to fiction I can make up what ever shit I want and it does not need to make sense nor does it need to reflect realty that´s the neat fucking part about making shit up.


So I will not understand why we need gay elves or black elves or white elves for that matter why does a made up with real life human traits it´s a made up race. For all I know wood elves could all be green because they are wood elves and are one with the forest so they should maybe be green or autumn yellow.

Why do we feel the need to insert our self in made up stories.

But I wanna feel included you say well you are not an elf and will NEVER be one so you will never be included ANYWAY.

Humans ego are so big they need to insert them self or it´s the end of the world.

And western people love to find problems in anything because their life are so useless and meaningless they have nothing better do.

ANIME and GAMES are about telling a story to entertain not to align with your beliefs or world views it´s a form of entertainment where people can express a creative freedom but it´s not a creative freedom if you feel the need to police and censor everything because your worthless feelings are hurt.

If it hurts your feeling so much all I can say is don´t read/watch or play it if not meant for you or just find the nearest mental hospital and seek help.
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No anime shows are problematic. I see no problematic anime shows.
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Now, if this isn't a combination of Projection AND Gen Z Idiocy I DON'T know what is. This is truly pathetic. If that is how you see things, please do NOT watch anything made more than 10 years ago, I'm not sure your fragile psyche could handle it.
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Oh crap, I forgot it was April 1st. ROFLMAO
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I think very few anime shows are actually problematic.
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if your sarcasm aint gonna slit through my head then
your Frieren's sentence was accurate, lol
Apr 2, 9:30 AM

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Hardly any anime shows are actually problematic.
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umm what the sigma? Hellsing Ultimate is the one anime where i understand what you mean

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Unfortunately when it comes to the Frieren is fascist propaganda one you actually have nutjob leftists on reddit and twitter unironically making that argument. I've heard similar stuff about the AoT one as well.
@WaffleMaster89 you wokelican grifters are so vapid that you make the "nutjob leftists" come off as sane.
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Spy X Family doesn't "glorify" incest...There's like...one guy who constantly thinks about incest, and he constantly gets his ass handed to him. But I might be rusty on that series, so I'll use an example from recent memory. Kyouichirou Yozakura from Yozakura Family. Obsessed with his sister, always gets his ass beat. Again, how does that glorify anything? Do violent tsunders glorify unprompted violence against males?

Normally I'd go on my whole rant about fiction. Maybe compare live action fiction to non-live action. Blah Blah Blah. But I had to zero in on the one thing I knew I could make a statement about, that, on paper, shouldn't be controversial. Because I really don't think OP knows what "glorify" even means...But, I'm open to being called out if I'm wrong

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Here's someone who doesn't recognize bait when he sees one, even if it's on April Fools' Day.
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The only problematic messaging I see and despise is the constant manipulation of Gen Z and Millennials with big jiggly breasted female characters and also constant oops I fell down on my female party member and inadvertantly grabbed her breasts and now I am in shock. For people who have actually been around long enough to have had lots of sex it is unimpressive and unnecessary even a little annoying.
The other thing I hate is high pitched squealy voice acting. I highly appreciate normal adult voices. I would rather hear the genuine voices of the actors. If the character is very young I'm sure something can be worked out with a reasonable facsimile of a young voice without the squeally voices. Unfortunately my favorite genre Isakai is replete with such VA.
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Apr 2, 10:59 AM

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Most anime is 100% uncontroversial. I see very little (if any) controversy in anime shows.
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@FanofAction

Here's someone who doesn't recognize bait when he sees one, even if it's on April Fools' Day.
@JoeChip You feel good about yourself for saying that? You know timezones are a thing, right? For me, it wasn't April 1st yet, Also, excuse me for not just automatically assuming everything is bait...You, along with so many others, have gotten so used to bait,that you seem to forget sometimes people mean what they say, even if it sounds like they're bullshitting. Thanks for confirming why it's in my brains best interest to take some time away from this site.
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