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Mar 23, 7:55 AM
#51
Attackonfiller said: Bro got bothered by teens having a good dopamine rush and decided to vent lol The criticism for SL is always as simple as the series itself, which is very telling. The show ain't hiding anything, but you decide to point out the elephant in the room anyway like it even needed to be said. It's almost like the show has clear and honest intentions. You're a real genius for this one lmao can't agree more, it's a spot on comment for this post |
Mar 23, 8:02 AM
#52
Willhelm23 said: EP1C_G4YM3R said: Bro missed the whole point of solo leveling with the first nitpick. Solo leveling isn’t a normal power scaling Shounen. It’s in actually a story about losing humanity closer to Overlord. When you become OP and treat life like a video game you lose your morality. We see this many times in solo leveling when Jin-Woo can choose to safe somebody with ease but instead he doesn’t because they didn’t ask for his help. This is most likely because of when Jin-Woo is directed to straight up murder people to complete his objective. He’s slowly losing his sense of humanity. when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered. Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best. Hmmmmm that is actually a very good point, so pretty much Jinwoo is slowly losing his humanity the more overpowered he becomes? I mean I haven’t read the manga, but it would be so sick if he ended up losing his humanity/morals to the point where jinwoo becomes the villain, and everyone has to take him down. I haven’t read it either. I don’t know if it’s going down that route for sure, but the story beats seem to be pointing in that direction. I can’t help but have my expectations set high. |
Mar 23, 8:04 AM
#53
Reply to Willhelm23
EP1C_G4YM3R said:
Bro missed the whole point of solo leveling with the first nitpick. Solo leveling isn’t a normal power scaling Shounen. It’s in actually a story about losing humanity closer to Overlord. When you become OP and treat life like a video game you lose your morality. We see this many times in solo leveling when Jin-Woo can choose to safe somebody with ease but instead he doesn’t because they didn’t ask for his help. This is most likely because of when Jin-Woo is directed to straight up murder people to complete his objective. He’s slowly losing his sense of humanity.
when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered. The only times he ever gets mad anymore is when he’s not able to get more powerful. He feels most comfortable when he’s fighting strong opponents and getting stronger. He’s starting to treat life itself as a video game, and chances are it’s actually a simulation.
Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best.
Bro missed the whole point of solo leveling with the first nitpick. Solo leveling isn’t a normal power scaling Shounen. It’s in actually a story about losing humanity closer to Overlord. When you become OP and treat life like a video game you lose your morality. We see this many times in solo leveling when Jin-Woo can choose to safe somebody with ease but instead he doesn’t because they didn’t ask for his help. This is most likely because of when Jin-Woo is directed to straight up murder people to complete his objective. He’s slowly losing his sense of humanity.
when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered.
Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best.
Hmmmmm that is actually a very good point, so pretty much Jinwoo is slowly losing his humanity the more overpowered he becomes? I mean I haven’t read the manga, but it would be so sick if he ended up losing his humanity/morals to the point where jinwoo becomes the villain, and everyone has to take him down.
@Willhelm23 I've read the Manhwa and that's exactly what happens, Jinwoo loses his morals, he becomes a villain, then every character in the show that we grew to love fights Jinwoo, of course, they obviously die, every single one of them and they turn into zombies, Jinwoo proceeds to take over the world, kills everyone, grows a mustache, starts twirling his mustache like your regular 101 villain while laughing and smirking, but there are no one around to see his new mustache, they are dead, humanity is far gone to the point of no return. |
Mar 23, 8:04 AM
#54
| You nailed every point there. Without insane production value, I doubt anyone would care about this story at all. Having said that, this series does what it sets out to do very well: being a power fantasy. I enjoyed the manhwa greatly, at least until the political and nationalist BS. The problem is this anime is way overrated, and it has the worst fanboys since it started airing. I hope it's just the loud minority, but they're acting like SL is the greatest thing ever and talking shit about other shows, like One Piece, just because it's hot right now. |
Mar 23, 8:06 AM
#55
EP1C_G4YM3R said: Willhelm23 said: EP1C_G4YM3R said: Bro missed the whole point of solo leveling with the first nitpick. Solo leveling isn’t a normal power scaling Shounen. It’s in actually a story about losing humanity closer to Overlord. When you become OP and treat life like a video game you lose your morality. We see this many times in solo leveling when Jin-Woo can choose to safe somebody with ease but instead he doesn’t because they didn’t ask for his help. This is most likely because of when Jin-Woo is directed to straight up murder people to complete his objective. He’s slowly losing his sense of humanity. when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered. Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best. Hmmmmm that is actually a very good point, so pretty much Jinwoo is slowly losing his humanity the more overpowered he becomes? I mean I haven’t read the manga, but it would be so sick if he ended up losing his humanity/morals to the point where jinwoo becomes the villain, and everyone has to take him down. I haven’t read it either. I don’t know if it’s going down that route for sure, but the story beats seem to be pointing in that direction. I can’t help but have my expectations set high. Same dude, if I remember correctly wasn’t his dad coming back because there was some sort of insane danger? Could that danger be his own son? Because isn’t the games connected to the dungeons? And his dad was in the dungeons for who knows how long. Idk it kind of sucks that they had this awesome character show up, and then proceed to forget about him for the rest of the season 😭 |
Mar 23, 8:08 AM
#56
xZabuzax said: @Willhelm23 I've read the Manhwa and that's exactly what happens, Jinwoo loses his morals, he becomes a villain, then every character in the show that we grew to love fights Jinwoo, of course, they obviously die, every single one of them and they turn into zombies, Jinwoo proceeds to take over the world, kills everyone, grows a mustache, starts twirling his mustache like your regular 101 villain while laughing and smirking, but there are no one around to see his new mustache, they are dead, humanity is far gone to the point of no return. Let’s gooooo that sounds wayyy more interesting than what is happening now in the show!!! Woohoooo 🕺💃🕺💃🕺💃 |
Mar 23, 8:12 AM
#57
| You’re not wrong. Up to this point everything has been heavily one sided in the MC’s favor. Though to be fair to the story without giving out spoilers, the actual antagonists haven’t really made an appearance yet. Not to saying it stops being a power fantasy, but things will start to get more difficult and not so one sided. Is it some amazing narrative that with enthrall and amaze you, not really, but I don’t think it’s trying to be. It’s just a fun, easy watch with some badass fight scenes. |
Mar 23, 8:36 AM
#58
newluminous said: You nailed every point there. Without insane production value, I doubt anyone would care about this story at all. Having said that, this series does what it sets out to do very well: being a power fantasy. I enjoyed the manhwa greatly, at least until the political and nationalist BS. The problem is this anime is way overrated, and it has the worst fanboys since it started airing. I hope it's just the loud minority, but they're acting like SL is the greatest thing ever and talking shit about other shows, like One Piece, just because it's hot right now. yeah that is what ticks me off about the SL fandom.They can't enjoy their own show without trashing other series with better writing, that's why people start hating on it or else this is just an anime which is just turn your brain off and enjoy show. |
Mar 23, 8:46 AM
#59
| Side question; anyone astonished at how every negative or seemingly negative thread for this series always end up in the "Popular New Topics" |
Mar 23, 8:47 AM
#60
| Bro, there's no point in explaining it, it's a bit embarrassing to repeat such obvious things, people know it but ignore it because for some reason a well-animated fight is enough for them, they don't need a good script and characters for that xD I think we're getting closer to idiocracy, it's not stupid to enjoy shit (I like watching something like that sometimes) it's stupid to say that shit is a masterpiece xD |
Mar 23, 9:06 AM
#61
FlashKnightAnime said: (SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2) This story is carried by animation/art because, 1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily. 2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development. 3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation. 4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists. 5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth. 6. No Real Losses or Consequences He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything. His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem. 7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him, Sung Jinwoo: Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason. He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines. "You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing. "I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue. Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None. Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything. Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong Relationships: Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her. Sister - background extra. S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist. Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because. Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto. If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online. None of this matters when you have peak fights. Literally nobody cares if you think its overrated back to work buddy People dont watch solo leveling for the story we know you enjoy slice of lifes more than power fantasy’s 🤣 |
Mar 23, 9:06 AM
#62
| Why pointing something that most people already know? let people enjoy what they want, as for myself i find it very enjoyable, animation is so good and the development he had was insane I agree with one comment from up there, hating on popular shows is getting more frecuent, damn |
Mar 23, 9:09 AM
#63
| Solo Levelling is the type of story I would’ve fantasised in my childhood: an overpowered MC with no flaws sweeping through everything without a sweat. Now that I’m older, watching this show makes me feel like that childhood fantasy has been visually depicted perfectly. The story is something a 12 year old boy could even write, but the production value is off the charts that even in my late 20’s it is still bringing out the child in me. |
Mar 23, 9:19 AM
#64
| Couldn’t agree more !!!!! |
Mar 23, 9:20 AM
#65
Linx_0 said: FlashKnightAnime said: (SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2) This story is carried by animation/art because, 1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily. 2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development. 3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation. 4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists. 5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth. 6. No Real Losses or Consequences He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything. His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem. 7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him, Sung Jinwoo: Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason. He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines. "You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing. "I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue. Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None. Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything. Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong Relationships: Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her. Sister - background extra. S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist. Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because. Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto. If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online. None of this matters when you have peak fights. Literally nobody cares if you think its overrated back to work buddy People dont watch solo leveling for the story we know you enjoy slice of lifes more than power fantasy’s 🤣 I am just curious like what is your favourite fight in anime? |
Mar 23, 9:40 AM
#66
| Definitely agree. I also just watched it because I've had a lot of free time recently, especially ep 12 s2. It made me feel really dissatisfied with how shitty the boss fight against that ant was. They hyped us up to expect a great and awesome boss fight just for that insect to be defeated in like 5-6 min. I probably won’t drop the anime, but my expectations for any future episodes are really low. |
Mar 23, 9:59 AM
#67
FlashKnightAnime said: (SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2) This story is carried by animation/art because, 1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily. 2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development. 3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation. 4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists. 5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth. 6. No Real Losses or Consequences He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything. His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem. 7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him, Sung Jinwoo: Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason. He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines. "You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing. "I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue. Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None. Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything. Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong Relationships: Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her. Sister - background extra. S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist. Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because. Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto. If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online. Bruh if u go into so many technalities then DBZ is trash.....but people love it and it's still goated.....solo leveling is the same.... everyone wants to enjoy and solo leveling does that the best... |
| Why are the ratings so low.....is it that bad.... because personally I am enjoying the show....it's fun... Action is good and all but I love the charecter interactions... |
Mar 23, 10:32 AM
#69
| SAO is better than Solo leveling in terms of writing. I. don't know why you felt the need to throw it under the bus like that. Yes Solo Leveling is not some crazy original or amazing thing, but it is because it is fun is why people like it. I heard the Manwa is better as well. I will also say however, unrelated. That your profile picture is Makima from Chainsaw man, yes I'd say Chainsaw man is a little more nuanced than Solo leveling, but not really that much. At the end of the day it is an action packed comedic, gore filled, fun ride, with fun characters. But it isn't a super crazy nuanced story either with multiple layers of sub text either. |
Mar 23, 10:33 AM
#70
FlashKnightAnime said: (SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2) This story is carried by animation/art because, 1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily. 2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development. 3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation. 4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists. 5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth. 6. No Real Losses or Consequences He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything. His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem. 7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him, Sung Jinwoo: Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason. He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines. "You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing. "I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue. Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None. Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything. Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong Relationships: Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her. Sister - background extra. S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist. Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because. Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto. If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online. Well, the name's "Solo Leveling", ofc it'd be completely centered around the MC with no real relevance for the side characters. I dont know what you expected when you started watching this show, but it is clearly not the one you're looking for. Sure, this season was very fast-paced, but except for that, theres not much evident flaws. It is perfect at what it does, being a power fantasy. The hype moments, animation, art style, action sequences, Voice acting. Considering your complaints about the show, I suggest you read the manwha |
Mar 23, 10:34 AM
#71
| I completely agree with this post, and I think these threads are needed because I see too many ppl crying about SL criticism and dismissing it as "ragebait" even tho the criticism is almost always more thought out than the glaze. The people crying about these posts need to realize that when u overhype things, ppl end up disappointed. Genuinely can't comprehend how one would think this post is ragebait. Also, it's easy to tell whether someone hates something because it's popular or dislikes something because it's bad. This post, along with most SL criticism, falls under the latter. |
Mar 23, 10:43 AM
#72
| What a downgrade from season 1, he's way too overpowered and everyone is rendered completely useless, plus there's 0 tension |
Mar 23, 11:04 AM
#73
Reply to Alisos360
I’ve never seen anyone claim that it’s a masterpiece, only people saying “Anyone that claims it’s a masterpiece is stupid” and other stuff to that effect.
“It’s a power fantasy!”, yeah dude, did the name of the show not give it away? Not every show has to be a literary piece of unequal rival.
The people complaining about enemies being stepping stones are missing the point of the show. Let me spell it out for you: L-E-V-E-L-I-N-G, and here’s the kicker it’s done: S-O-L-O, crazy right?
Since the word “Solo” is in the title you could assume that any character development that happens will probably revolve around the protagonist and most side characters will be irrelevant for the majority of the plot, insane dude.
If you don’t like it you don’t have to watch it. Not every anime is made for everyone. People have different tastes, so long as the animation and voice acting is not insanely terrible, someone somewhere will enjoy it.
Finally, stop the forced contrarian shitposting. Like, we get it, you a special kid and no one gets you. Great. Move on.
“It’s a power fantasy!”, yeah dude, did the name of the show not give it away? Not every show has to be a literary piece of unequal rival.
The people complaining about enemies being stepping stones are missing the point of the show. Let me spell it out for you: L-E-V-E-L-I-N-G, and here’s the kicker it’s done: S-O-L-O, crazy right?
Since the word “Solo” is in the title you could assume that any character development that happens will probably revolve around the protagonist and most side characters will be irrelevant for the majority of the plot, insane dude.
If you don’t like it you don’t have to watch it. Not every anime is made for everyone. People have different tastes, so long as the animation and voice acting is not insanely terrible, someone somewhere will enjoy it.
Finally, stop the forced contrarian shitposting. Like, we get it, you a special kid and no one gets you. Great. Move on.
| @Alisos360 This whole argument that the show being titled "Solo Leveling" must mean that every character development MUST revolve around the MC in some way, or that every other character MUST be irrelevant is insanely lazy and makes 0 sense. You literally just explained the real reason the show is called Solo Leveling...because it's about the main character leveling up and getting stronger on his own. That has nothing to do with side characters being written badly and having 0 relevance outside of gawking at the MC. The name being "solo" doesn't mean that only 1 character has to be important in the story. That's a ludicrous idea. |
Mar 23, 11:04 AM
#74
Reply to Piromysl
Yeah, after yesterday's episode bait thread like this was inevitable.
| @Piromysl It might be bait, but tbh some of the points made are actually valid. Bait or not. |
Mar 23, 11:18 AM
#75
Reply to Ibtehaz_mahmud
FlashKnightAnime said:
(SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2)
This story is carried by animation/art because,
1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily.
2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development.
3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation.
4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists.
5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth.
6. No Real Losses or Consequences
He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything.
His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem.
7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him,
Sung Jinwoo:
Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason.
He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines.
"You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing.
"I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue.
Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None.
Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything.
Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong
Relationships:
Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her.
Sister - background extra.
S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist.
Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because.
Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto.
If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online.
(SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2)
This story is carried by animation/art because,
1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily.
2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development.
3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation.
4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists.
5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth.
6. No Real Losses or Consequences
He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything.
His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem.
7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him,
Sung Jinwoo:
Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason.
He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines.
"You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing.
"I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue.
Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None.
Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything.
Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong
Relationships:
Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her.
Sister - background extra.
S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist.
Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because.
Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto.
If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online.
Well, the name's "Solo Leveling", ofc it'd be completely centered around the MC with no real relevance for the side characters. I dont know what you expected when you started watching this show, but it is clearly not the one you're looking for. Sure, this season was very fast-paced, but except for that, theres not much evident flaws. It is perfect at what it does, being a power fantasy. The hype moments, animation, art style, action sequences, Voice acting.
Considering your complaints about the show, I suggest you read the manwha
| @Ibtehaz_mahmud Another person using this illogical argument. The show being called "Solo Leveling" doesn't mean all the side characters have to be irrelevant and meaningless. Naruto is literally named after its main character and yet the side characters are still important in that show. This argument people use to defend the lack of writing for the side characters always boggles my mind. |
Mar 23, 11:24 AM
#76
| stop yapping bro we know still you are gonna watch the next season. You got some attention be happy.Hurt because of an anime 😂 |
Mar 23, 11:26 AM
#77
FlashKnightAnime said: (SPOILERS FOR UP TO SEASON 2) This story is carried by animation/art because, 1. Jinwoo gets overpowered too fast. It ruins the tension when he wins everything too easily. 2. Almost every side character exists to just gawk at him and are all one-dimensional NPC's with no depth or development. 3. The dialogue is ass, it's either gawking at Sung Jinwoo or exposition dumping. If you watch solo leveling for the story you gotta an idiot cuz the only thing "good" about it is the flashy animation. 4. The Villains are just stepping stones. The antagonists show up for like half an episode, act cocky for a few minutes, just to get demolished. There's no ideological conflict, depth, just bad guy exists. 5. I'm fine if you watch just to fire some neurons, but acting like its the greatest piece of fiction ever is dumb af, it's just a power fantasy with no depth. 6. No Real Losses or Consequences He never suffers permanent setbacks. Even when things look bad, he just pulls out a new power and fixes everything. His biggest "struggles" last for like one chapter before he stomps the problem. 7. And for the last time, Sung Jinwoo is one of the worst written character I've ever seen. Here's a character sheet of him, Sung Jinwoo: Personality: Aura farms, randomly protective, always calm never surprised, craves strength with no deeper reason. He hardly ever shows genuine emotions outside of looking cool. Always generic edgy lines. "You guys are just prey, and I'm the hunter." - This line always got me cringing. "I don’t need allies. I just need stronger enemies." - This is just peak edge-lord dialogue. Interests, Hobbies, Quirks: Oh, that's right... None. Conflict: Uh… none. No personal struggles, no moral dilemmas. Sure, he wants to protect his family, but that feels hollow because it’s barely explored. It’s just a generic excuse for him to have any sort of “character.” Unlike well-written protagonists with family-driven motivations (Eren from AOT, Edward Elric from FMA), Jinwoo never really struggles with tough choices—he just powers through everything. Growth: Generic MC 101 - Weak → Strong Relationships: Mother - just for him to protect, and becomes an NPC after he heals her. Sister - background extra. S-Rank chick: He gets a love interest, but it’s so forced and lifeless that it may as well not exist. Goals: idfk, more strength? Why? Just because. Stop acting like he’s some genius, complex character when he’s just an edgy OP protagonist with no real personality. Compared to actually well-written power fantasy characters (Guts from Berserk, Thorfinn from Vinland Saga), he’s shallow and uninspired. Obviously, he’s designed to be a blank slate for readers to project onto. If you think this anime is a masterpiece, I implore you to watch garbage like Sword Art Online. Be productive in real life buddy stop yapping about an anime.None gives a f about your opinion go watch your favourite sht. |
Mar 23, 12:25 PM
#78
| i couldn't agree more!!! |
Mar 23, 12:27 PM
#79
| Oh look, another crybaby thread about some... human upset a show he/she/they don't like is popular. Sure you prepared a thesis on why it's bad, but why did you publish it? Did you want to see people defend the show? Or did you seek sexual satisfaction from getting engagement? The funny thing is, all these complaints were present in the first season so why would you watch the second? Masochism I suspect which would also explain this thread. All too easy... |
Mar 23, 12:38 PM
#80
| The only thing that I could say is trash about Solo Leveling is its rabid fans. I've read the series years ago and disliked the ending but overall it was a fun read. So I knew what I would get from the anime and enjoy it, that's about it. But if you leave it to these "fans", this is the absolute best thing ever to happen in anime industry. It's a power fantasy that takes itself too seriously and has no stakes. It'd be one thing if it was a parody but this is not that. It gets hard carried by the studio. It was the same back when it wasn't that much known; you'd get suggested Solo Leveling as "Story isn't much but the art is great." It's the equivalent of a tech demo game. |
Mar 23, 2:05 PM
#82
yMxrcoo_ said: bro only watched the anime and didnt even read the manwha and giving points that arent even true lmao -1/10 ragebait So what if they didn't read the manwha, so since when does anime come with homework. Gatekeeping muppet |
Mar 23, 2:08 PM
#83
| Oh noooo you’re right let’s drop this anime jk |
Mar 23, 2:32 PM
#84
| Solo Leveling is the only Chinese cartoon I am watching tho ;_; |
Mar 23, 2:40 PM
#85
Reply to TheUpstairsOne
8.87 trash he said
| @TheUpstairsOne 8.88 actually |
Mar 23, 2:41 PM
#86
| Why do these kinds of threads keep popping up? It's annoying asf. You hate SL? Fine. Keep it to yourself. |
Mar 23, 2:42 PM
#87
Johnanderson46 said: yMxrcoo_ said: bro only watched the anime and didnt even read the manwha and giving points that arent even true lmao -1/10 ragebait So what if they didn't read the manwha, so since when does anime come with homework. Gatekeeping muppet cuz u dont know the whole series/story??? and he giving some points that arent even true, btw instant insulting is crazy xD maybe get a life tho |
Mar 23, 2:51 PM
#88
| on another note after all the rage bait anyone excited for the beginning after the end? |
Mar 23, 3:19 PM
#89
| I don't care to be honest. I've watched Attack on Titan, Hunter X Hunter, Vinland Saga, One Punch Man, Monster, Code Geass, Dragon Ball, Naruto and basically all the popular action animes before reading Solo Leveling in 2022 and for me Solo Leveling is above them in terms of enjoyment and protagonist. I'm aware that the story isn't the most thought provoking thing in the history of animes (It never was, and it was never trying to be that) but I LOVE everything about the story, including characters, arcs, fights and basically everything. I've watched so many animes that I feel like I don't have to explain to people why Solo Leveling is one of my favorite animes. Even if Solo Leveling wasn't this popular I still would have considered it to be PEAK and PURE CINEMA because that's what it is. If I had to explain SL in one word, that would be "Spectacular". |
Mar 23, 3:24 PM
#90
| This thread is funny, from the OP who actually speaks some truths and the fanbois here who are offended by that While I agree with what OP has said, I don't think SL is trash, it's just something to enjoy with my mind turned off, just like how I enjoyed One Punch Man :) |
(っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
Mar 23, 4:00 PM
#91
| Yet another person with the anti-Solo Leveling simpleton strikes again 🤡 |
Mar 23, 4:16 PM
#92
Reply to EP1C_G4YM3R
Bro missed the whole point of solo leveling with the first nitpick. Solo leveling isn’t a normal power scaling Shounen. It’s in actually a story about losing humanity closer to Overlord. When you become OP and treat life like a video game you lose your morality. We see this many times in solo leveling when Jin-Woo can choose to safe somebody with ease but instead he doesn’t because they didn’t ask for his help. This is most likely because of when Jin-Woo is directed to straight up murder people to complete his objective. He’s slowly losing his sense of humanity.
when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered. The only times he ever gets mad anymore is when he’s not able to get more powerful. He feels most comfortable when he’s fighting strong opponents and getting stronger. He’s starting to treat life itself as a video game, and chances are it’s actually a simulation.
Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best.
when he finally managed to bring his mom back to consciousness we hear his inner monologue of him thinking about how he should be happier. The tears he shed when finally saving his mom were tears of joy when you finally clear a stage of a game, not tears of relief because his mom has finally recovered.
Solo leveling is a unique story where it mixes a bunch of different story elements to create a new fun narrative. That is the complete opposite of “trash”. It may not be the best story out there, that part’s completely subjective. Objectively though, it definitely stands apart from most stories making it one of the best.
| @EP1C_G4YM3R Your the only useful reply in this whole comment section. |
Mar 23, 5:12 PM
#93
Reply to Alisos360
I’ve never seen anyone claim that it’s a masterpiece, only people saying “Anyone that claims it’s a masterpiece is stupid” and other stuff to that effect.
“It’s a power fantasy!”, yeah dude, did the name of the show not give it away? Not every show has to be a literary piece of unequal rival.
The people complaining about enemies being stepping stones are missing the point of the show. Let me spell it out for you: L-E-V-E-L-I-N-G, and here’s the kicker it’s done: S-O-L-O, crazy right?
Since the word “Solo” is in the title you could assume that any character development that happens will probably revolve around the protagonist and most side characters will be irrelevant for the majority of the plot, insane dude.
If you don’t like it you don’t have to watch it. Not every anime is made for everyone. People have different tastes, so long as the animation and voice acting is not insanely terrible, someone somewhere will enjoy it.
Finally, stop the forced contrarian shitposting. Like, we get it, you a special kid and no one gets you. Great. Move on.
“It’s a power fantasy!”, yeah dude, did the name of the show not give it away? Not every show has to be a literary piece of unequal rival.
The people complaining about enemies being stepping stones are missing the point of the show. Let me spell it out for you: L-E-V-E-L-I-N-G, and here’s the kicker it’s done: S-O-L-O, crazy right?
Since the word “Solo” is in the title you could assume that any character development that happens will probably revolve around the protagonist and most side characters will be irrelevant for the majority of the plot, insane dude.
If you don’t like it you don’t have to watch it. Not every anime is made for everyone. People have different tastes, so long as the animation and voice acting is not insanely terrible, someone somewhere will enjoy it.
Finally, stop the forced contrarian shitposting. Like, we get it, you a special kid and no one gets you. Great. Move on.
| @Alisos360 Nearly 100k people gave this between a 9 and a 10. So that whole "no one has claimed it to be a masterpiece" argument falls flat on its own face XD |
Mar 23, 6:22 PM
#94
Reply to Stanleyliam1990
on another note after all the rage bait anyone excited for the beginning after the end?
| @Stanleyliam1990 It's doomed from the start The trailer says it all |
Mar 23, 6:23 PM
#95
Mar 23, 8:40 PM
#97
Reply to Rinrinka
This thread is funny, from the OP who actually speaks some truths and the fanbois here who are offended by that

While I agree with what OP has said, I don't think SL is trash, it's just something to enjoy with my mind turned off, just like how I enjoyed One Punch Man :)
While I agree with what OP has said, I don't think SL is trash, it's just something to enjoy with my mind turned off, just like how I enjoyed One Punch Man :)
Rinrinka said: While I agree with what OP has said, I don't think SL is trash, it's just something to enjoy with my mind turned off, just like how I enjoyed One Punch Man :) One Punch Man was really funny, and made me laugh, a LOT! Making people laugh is no easy task. SL is an emotionless husk of an anime in comparison. |
Mar 23, 9:22 PM
#98
| you wrote my thoughts lol. idk why people r going crazy over it and calling it peak fiction. I'm guessing these people r new to anime and manhwa/manga hence this looks like the peak for them.. Im glad you mentioned a character like Thorfinn. anyways, I don't hate in shows but the way SL keeps being called the best sort of makes me sad how people's tastes r pretty shallow these days. |
Mar 23, 9:23 PM
#99
CheliosX said: Wasn't this obvious already? Lol. Sure, it has that many flaws but people, including me, still enjoy it. OP is talking about SL being called peak, not it being entertaining. |
Mar 23, 9:25 PM
#100
AakBan_Pochi29 said: CheliosX said: Wasn't this obvious already? Lol. Sure, it has that many flaws but people, including me, still enjoy it. OP is talking about SL being called peak, not it being entertaining. That's why. I talked about "flaws". I was pointing out it is NOT peak. |
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