BanG Dream! Ave Mujica Episode 11 Discussion

So we have like 20 minutes of monologue theater from Doloris POV today. Peak script writing made me seated for the entire episode.

That one theory was right; she is Saki's aunt and somehow wanting to get closer with but can't do anything much other than using Uika's mask and being in a band with her because of Togawa's family stuff (or whatever happened inside that big family). "Can't do anything much..." Huh, I said that but she is actually the one who triggered the whole MyGO and Ave Mujica's story.

And, wow, two episodes toward the end. How the hell they will end it with a lot of unresolved problems like this?

This is peak, real peak! This is Girls band, anime....me.... The episode also felt so short.
So...... Uika, who we've seen since the beginning, is Hatsune in disguise all along. And, what happened to the real Uika? Chilling at home on the island?! lol

The final boss is the Tokawa grandpa!!? Big F to that old man.

The island where Hatsune and Uika grew up is Shodoshima, the same island as Takagi-san.

btw,

@AkeZZZ Lol, what? So, is our Uka fake?! Or is Uka actually Sakiko's sister? Ayana has been trolling us this whole time saying that she wanted Ave Mujika to be as realistic as possible, lmao? This is starting to look more and more like a parody of "dark" soap operas. Considering their producer mentioned serial killers, I wouldn't be surprised if she already managed to kill the real Uka, lmao.

Anyway, if they are closely related, now I wonder if the whole yuri bait thing was just bait and switch, or if they are actually going to develop an incest-ish yuri. Considering how much Bushiroad tried to erase SayoHina in the past, that would be pretty funny.

@Aleksu It's like we had a yandere Hina who ended up being Sayo in disguise who was staliking Aya.

@lazy_Modifier Jokes aside, this series works just fine as a cheesy over-the-top drama (comedy?) with endless Dynasty-style plot twists. But the funniest thing is that the original writer desperately tried to convince us that realism was the key narrative of the story, lmao.

@RobertBobert
well, Hatsune's father is Togawa Sadaharu, Sakiko's grandfather. Later on, she has a little sister named Uika from her new stepfather. When she moved to Tokyo and started her idol career as Sumimi, she chose the name Uika because she wanted to seek attention from Sakiko. So, that's mean Uika we've known since the beginning = Hatsune. And the fate of real Uika is still unknown at this point.

@AkeZZZ Lol, what? So, is our Uka fake?! Or is Uka actually Sakiko's sister? Ayana has been trolling us this whole time saying that she wanted Ave Mujika to be as realistic as possible, lmao? This is starting to look more and more like a parody of "dark" soap operas. Considering their producer mentioned serial killers, I wouldn't be surprised if she already managed to kill the real Uka, lmao.

Anyway, if they are closely related, now I wonder if the whole yuri bait thing was just bait and switch, or if they are actually going to develop an incest-ish yuri. Considering how much Bushiroad tried to erase SayoHina in the past, that would be pretty funny.

@Aleksu It's like we had a yandere Hina who ended up being Sayo in disguise who was staliking Aya.

@lazy_Modifier Jokes aside, this series works just fine as a cheesy over-the-top drama (comedy?) with endless Dynasty-style plot twists. But the funniest thing is that the original writer desperately tried to convince us that realism was the key narrative of the story, lmao.

Kasumi seeing stars = create PoPiPa
Ui- Hatsune seeing stars = create Ave Mujica

Mhmmm, yes... this is still Bang Dream that i know

Anyway, it's still 2 episodes left, i hope there is a scene that introduce real Uika, also this episode is pretty good for full duration of opera (?) story-telling

At this point I think Psychological should be added to the genre in the Anime information.

Each episode is crazier than the previous...

At long last, Uika (Hatsune)'s big secret is revealed — a by-blow of Sakiko's grandfather (who is in fact married to the Togawa family like Sakiko's father was), she assumed real Uika's identity, which caused everything to go wrong for Sakiko and her dad. This explains her affection (and to a larger extent, guilt) towards Sakiko.

This episode is very much different from the previous ones: Hatsune made a 20-minute soliloquy about her backstory. I like the part when Hatsune is compared to a moon while Uika is compared to a sun. It is a delicate symbolism: a moon's light comes from the sun, which symbolizes that Hatsune gets her friendship with Sakiko by pretending to be Uika.

I still wonder how this season will end with just two EPs left, given that the MyGO!!!!! x AM series has only 26 EPs in total.

That said, Rico Sasaki did handle this episode's soliloquy well, expressing Hatsune's emotions delicately.

Anyway, I wonder what comes in the next EP.

If I have not forget this is BanG Dream anime, surely my mind tell that's, Hatsune really kill her own sister, Uika to impersonate her for sake on together with Sakiko.

It's will become more horror & dark, but the writer not cross the bar by having the right plot story as it's still within the girls band anime, not some dark-gore action thriller.

Prop to the writer & seiyuu, Riko Sasaki. ABSOLUTE THEATRE. 👏🏻✋🏻🤚🏻🎭

@MrBluebear I almost forgot it was BanG Dream anyway, lmao. But seriously, who would have thought we'd get so close to the old meme that Ave Mujika would be a horror anime. I agree it could have been a very original psychological drama with a mentally broken girl killing and pretending to be her sister at the center. I think that in this sense, the brand even somewhat restrains the crazy potential of the author's imagination.

@Hormigo Peak realistic cinema, lmao. Also, I'm still scratching my head over this whole incest aunt x niece thing. Did they really make her Sakiko's aunt to smooth over all those incest implications and create an incredible bait and switch? Or is this literally an attempt to sell us tragic "legal" incest after all? Because even if aunt (half-aunt?) is further than sibling or half-sibling (I still remember how Bushiroad tried to fight SayoHina, lmao) and that in Japan in general marriages between near-cousins ​​are possible, it still looks like pushing yuri bait between surrogate sisters.

Not to mention that this is all happening in a massive multimedia franchise featuring world-famous bands, where the height of the drama used to be not realizing that your DJ and your mascot bear were the same person.

@RobertBobert Seriously speaking, the thing with Uika and Sakiko seems more like Yuri Bait than anything else, although we already know how the Japanese are with these things. Putting Hatsune as Sakiko's aunt is a very risky move, although if my translation is correct, at some point Hatsune says that she likes Sakiko, in what way? They'll play with ambiguity. That said, all that was missing was to know Uika's past and why she acted that way. Umiri, Mutsumi / Mortis and Nyamu have already solved their problems and the band already united in the previous chapter. So I think that in the penultimate chapter Sakiko and Hatsune will fix their problems and return to the band and in the final chapter there will be closure. What is clear to me is that the problems of the adults (grandfather, Sakiko's father) will be left in the background and that's it.

PT : If Uika is alive I do not know how they will fit everything, but seeing that in the post loans a grave appears I think that Uika is dead, perhaps she was sick or something or perhaps not

If I have not forget this is BanG Dream anime, surely my mind tell that's, Hatsune really kill her own sister, Uika to impersonate her for sake on together with Sakiko.

It's will become more horror & dark, but the writer not cross the bar by having the right plot story as it's still within the girls band anime, not some dark-gore action thriller.

Prop to the writer & seiyuu, Riko Sasaki. ABSOLUTE THEATRE. 👏🏻✋🏻🤚🏻🎭

@Hormigo Are you using yuri bait to mean bait and switch through the illusion of yuri or to mean a bright yuri element to attract people? I know how confusing and unusual the Japanese attitude is towards incest, especially in the media, but without even watching the episode itself (I'll be watching MyGO for the first time in full this weekend), I feel like with such details, they're unlikely to go too far considering the reputation of a very large IP, most of which is very kids friendly, is at stake. But who knows? Ave Mujika itself is already pushing the boundaries of this whole kira kira doki doki thing too far.

I don't know how long they'll be going with this and how they want to end it, but ideally one episode to close out the Uika character arc and one overall final episode seems like a good idea. Maybe we'll also get a movie combining both groups as a finale after this?

@MrBluebear
I gotta say that I'll hope im wrong when im thinking about the same situation as your.
but judging from what Uika/Hatsune did with Mutsu (even in her mind) in episode 9, there might possibly be that the horrible thing depicted is accurate.
damn!
the worse is yet to come when the show becomes more toxic and edgy at the same time, even though its just a music show.

@RobertBobert What I mean (sorry for my English) is that unless the anime has a Yuri label, there are very few anime in which the protagonists are girls in which a relationship is confirmed clearly and unequivocally. I have already made it clear that I have not seen everything, but speaking for example of Mygo and Ave Mujica, there are many shippable girls, but as far as I know there is no official relationship, I don't know about the other bandori groups.

@Jebidor If there were a murder, the anime would have been classified+18 and the most important thing destroys the character of Uika/Hatsune for the viewer. It is one thing to think about doing something terrible as it happened To Hatsune with Mutsumi and another thing is that she

is really a murderer. That would already be to transfer the red line for the program

@Jebidor If there were a murder, the anime would have been classified+18 and the most important thing destroys the character of Uika/Hatsune for the viewer. It is one thing to think about doing something terrible as it happened To Hatsune with Mutsumi and another thing is that she

is really a murderer. That would already be to transfer the red line for the program

@Jebidor Did it really not sink after the announcement of their blood related relationship? Or do you find the idea of ​​actual incest appealing if they actually decide to go ahead with it?

@RewLord And what's quite ironic is that there were people who actually predicted it somehow, lmao. This is probably the first time in my memory that such crazy fan theories actually turn out to be true.

@Shadow_Master_T Well, to be super strict, they never outright stated that Uka was in love with Sakiko etc. But since it was extremely easy for Uka to pass as a yandere before this episode and even after that her obsession is still extremely suspicious, it could very well give you an incest outcome if they were really going to jump in head first and make this a canon ship. AT THIS POINT I'd compare it to a female version of Saint Seiya, where the MC's relationship with her older sister was so cheesy theatrical and homoerotic that you regularly had to remember the context to not to staring thinking that writers were unironically implying something taboo.

As for Sakiko, regardless of the ship theme, I think it's a pacing issue and they just didn't have enough time to write how Sakiko getting into that moment.

@RobertBobert
incest between these 2 girls ...
I would totally support it if it happens.
beside, this is a music show, music is the main theme (more like fake cuz now it's just sub-plot), despite all the toxic drama that happened, if the relationship of U and S can be mended in the most positive way in the last 2 episodes then it will be a success.
I cannot ask for anything more.