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Mar 12, 9:58 AM
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Both Laios and Falin seem to be on the Autism spectrum, they both hyperfixate on interests. For example, Laios with monsters and facts about them with Falin on spirits/the undead and learning to treat them humanely. There is overlap on both and differences but their issues with social skills are a great indicator for the spectrum. Regarding Shiro, he tactfully tried to let Laios know when he was not interested in speaking but Laios could of course not read these subtle signals. Falin also could not read the signals if given to her, but they never were as she is a soft spoken, more reserved about her interests kind of character. Women are often socialized to be softer and less forward with their interests unfortunately, this especially goes with girls with autism which is a possible reason why diagnosing women can be so difficult. It seems ironic that Shiro fell in love with someone so different from his culture but resents her brother so similar to her. The main difference being how forward and outgoing they were.
Mar 12, 10:22 AM
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I don't think this is an unusual take.

I don't really agree, but I can sort of see it if I squint my eyes a bit. Laios, especially, after that fight with Shuro (like you said).

But anime is full of obsessive characters with hyper-specific interests, so I just categorize Laios and Falin in that group...

I believe the manga's author made some comments about this, do search around if you're curious.
Mar 12, 10:25 AM
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tbh, I really never gave it a thought and now that you say they do appear autistic
I do feel that nature of laios is appealing and bearable to watch I think he is an interesting guy

I liked your opinion on falin tho I never really had much of a thought of her when I was watching this anime for me she was just the plot
Regarding the fight between shura and laios I really have no opinion but I get it that normal people tend to ignore somebody like Laios
Mar 12, 10:27 AM
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While the characteristics you mentioned do apply to autistic people, the amount of autistic traits Laios and Falin have, are far too few to conclude them having autism. Non-autistic people can have these traits too. Besides, the author themselves said Laios and Falin are not on the spectrum.

They are not autistic. Autistic people can still relate to them though.
Mar 12, 10:32 AM
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I don't think this is an unusual take.

I don't really agree, but I can sort of see it if I squint my eyes a bit. Laios, especially, after that fight with Shuro (like you said).

But anime is full of obsessive characters with hyper-specific interests, so I just categorize Laios and Falin in that group...

I believe the manga's author made some comments about this, do search around if you're curious.
@perseii

From what I am reading from one of the author’s interviews it seems like she did not intend to write them that way. I think the author has so far done a wonderful job at describing different autistic character’s experiences through Laios and Falin while also making it relatable to many neurotypical people.

The obsessive character trope usually gives me a certain feeling about a character depending on their social skills and ways of interacting with the world! However you are right about there being many obsessive individuals not with a condition.

Dungeon Meshi is really fantastic and I can’t wait to learn more about the world and characters in the second season!
Mar 12, 10:36 AM
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tbh, I really never gave it a thought and now that you say they do appear autistic
I do feel that nature of laios is appealing and bearable to watch I think he is an interesting guy

I liked your opinion on falin tho I never really had much of a thought of her when I was watching this anime for me she was just the plot
Regarding the fight between shura and laios I really have no opinion but I get it that normal people tend to ignore somebody like Laios
@ZenoxAlive

Falin didn’t really enter my mind much besides being a plot device until I saw the episode with Shiro and learned more about the relationship between him and Falin.

To be secretly disliked, or even resented, is a big fear for many people regardless if they have Autism or not I imagine. It is only accentuated when you grew up and lived your whole life not being liked for who you are, as is the case for Laois. Think about how he was unhappy at home so joined the army, was bullied there and deserted, then found Falin where they eventually met more like minded people.
Mar 12, 10:49 AM
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While the characteristics you mentioned do apply to autistic people, the amount of autistic traits Laios and Falin have, are far too few to conclude them having autism. Non-autistic people can have these traits too. Besides, the author themselves said Laios and Falin are not on the spectrum.

They are not autistic. Autistic people can still relate to them though.
@Infernalization

Both of our opinions are more than valid here, mine stems from personal experiences and from what I am watching unfold in the show. I would like to bring up this question however, should what an author says about their work outside of the work really matter? For example, does anyone really believe in Harry Potter that Dumbledore is gay? Does it even matter if he was never shown to be so in the books or movies? That’s the way I view information gleaned from interviews and not from the work itself.

This is not to downplay the author or your own opinion, simply saying that no opinion here is necessarily incorrect. Would someone without social media be wrong for not adhering to the words of an author online? I think it’s an interesting topic truly!
Mar 12, 10:55 AM
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I keep hearing this opinion, might be time to finally check it
Mar 12, 11:42 AM
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So just because they are on the weirder side and focus a lot more on certain things than others, they are automatically autistic? Not even for a second have I thought that they are autistic when I was watching the anime.
Mar 12, 12:42 PM

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nah they're just silly
Mar 12, 2:03 PM
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No, and neither are you I bet
Mar 12, 4:20 PM
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GTRaijin said:
So just because they are on the weirder side and focus a lot more on certain things than others, they are automatically autistic? Not even for a second have I thought that they are autistic when I was watching the anime.

People in here tend to overreact or interpretate whatever they want on fictional characters lol
My opinion is : they are goofy and funny, dumb, weird. Thats all
Mar 12, 7:52 PM
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may any type of fiction i like never get this kind of fanbase, please go back to tumblr
Mar 13, 12:52 PM
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yes and kabru too 🙏🔥
Mar 22, 3:51 PM
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They totally are. Part of this is I’m projecting for sure, but the way Laois interacts with people and conflicts is so Insanely autistic coded. Falin as well. Regardless of intent that will always be how I interpret them lol
Mar 31, 6:25 PM
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Its a comedy show they are not autistic
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I have no idea why anyone would think Falin is autistic. Laios isn't either, but at least I get why some might think he is. Laios is just extremely simple minded.
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People can be passionate about something without being on the spectrum. That is just normal human behaviour.

People with ASD have more significant communication barriers and hurdles. I used to work as a support worker for adults with ASD, and I've noticed recently that there's a lot of misinformation about the autism spectrum on social media. A lot of young people get their misunderstanding of ASD from TikTok and self identify with it as some sort of aesthetic when they don't understand what it actually looks like. Now people are often confusing introverted behavior as autism. Liking specific things and having a shy or weird personality is normal for many people, and not indicative of a neurological disorder.
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People can be passionate about something without being on the spectrum. That is just normal human behaviour.

People with ASD have more significant communication barriers and hurdles. I used to work as a support worker for adults with ASD, and I've noticed recently that there's a lot of misinformation about the autism spectrum on social media. A lot of young people get their misunderstanding of ASD from TikTok and self identify with it as some sort of aesthetic when they don't understand what it actually looks like. Now people are often confusing introverted behavior as autism. Liking specific things and having a shy or weird personality is normal for many people, and not indicative of a neurological disorder.
@humungadunga64

Both Laios and Falin struggled to make friends, not just due to shyness, but do to always and immediately diving deep into interests without seeing if others care as much for the topic.

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