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Mar 9, 10:12 AM
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I'm bit confused by the related entries article. I undestand that this is and adaptation of a manga. This manga is part of bigger story, starting with Ubume no Natsu, which has not been adapted yet. What has been adapted is the sequel manga Mouryou no Hako.
My question is, should I readUbume no Natsu and watch/read Mouryou no Hako before watching this or is this a disconnected story from the rest of the series?
Mar 9, 10:23 AM
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It takes place four years before the events of Ubume no Natsu so you can watch this first.

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Mar 9, 10:48 AM
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wait a minute... It's connected to Ubume no Natsu? I've read this novel before. wao
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Mar 16, 3:43 AM
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I would say the stories are irrelevant so it should be ok, but mouryo no hako and ubume no natsu is amazing
Apr 3, 10:11 AM
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Is this canon to the series?
Apr 7, 7:04 PM
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It’s absolutely not necessary that one reads Ubume no Natsu, Moryou no Hako, or any of the other Hyakki Yakou mysteries, a series of very adult, very long, and very difficult (in terms of prose and kanji knowledge) books, before starting this anime which is based on a shonen manga.

There’s a gag at the start of Oshi no Ko in which a young Aqua is reading Moryou no Hako on the playground. The primary hope of the media mix here is that students start out of this manga and then become interested in the main mystery series when they mature.
Apr 12, 9:55 AM
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wait a minute... It's connected to Ubume no Natsu? I've read this novel before. wao
@AkeZZZ It's a one big franchise with different stories in a shared universe, if I'm not mistaken. I'm really interested in the paranormal stuff, because other stories have had it.

@ClaudG Is it so well known in Japan itself that Aka could even make such an subtle (for a Western viewer) reference?
Apr 12, 11:30 PM
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@AkeZZZ It's a one big franchise with different stories in a shared universe, if I'm not mistaken. I'm really interested in the paranormal stuff, because other stories have had it.

@ClaudG Is it so well known in Japan itself that Aka could even make such an subtle (for a Western viewer) reference?
@RobertBobert Yes, his books are well known for being both thousand page bricks and for containing rare, archaic kanji. It would be like mentioning a Stephen King book; everyone knows they're massive novels. But Kyogoku books have the added element of archaic vocab. The gag is on page 7 of chapter 7 of OnK.
Apr 13, 1:48 AM
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@RobertBobert Yes, his books are well known for being both thousand page bricks and for containing rare, archaic kanji. It would be like mentioning a Stephen King book; everyone knows they're massive novels. But Kyogoku books have the added element of archaic vocab. The gag is on page 7 of chapter 7 of OnK.
@ClaudG So, is this some kind of version of War and Peace for the Japanese audience?
Apr 14, 10:54 AM
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@ClaudG So, is this some kind of version of War and Peace for the Japanese audience?
@RobertBobert The first novel was published in 94, and they're horror mystery novels. So they hardly have that kind of cultural cache or status as a classic. Might be closer to something like Infinite Jest.
Apr 14, 11:47 AM

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@RobertBobert The first novel was published in 94, and they're horror mystery novels. So they hardly have that kind of cultural cache or status as a classic. Might be closer to something like Infinite Jest.
@ClaudG I was more referring to memes about the volume and complexity of topics (for example, people still joke about Tolstoy's love of huge sentences), but I think I get your point.
May 7, 6:25 AM
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I would say the stories are irrelevant so it should be ok, but mouryo no hako and ubume no natsu is amazing
@sumizumi So far I've only read Ubume no Natsu, but it was very good!

As someone else said, it's got some difficult language (letters and journals written before the war use outdated kanji and kana, like ゐ 'wi' or this kanji 廿 for 20) but it's mostly for the old-timey flavor and fun in its own right. You will also learn a LOT of Buddhist terms and some period accurate pop-psychology.

The opening narration in the first episode is taken right out of a passage in Ubume if I remember correctly.
May 7, 1:42 PM

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@sumizumi So far I've only read Ubume no Natsu, but it was very good!

As someone else said, it's got some difficult language (letters and journals written before the war use outdated kanji and kana, like ゐ 'wi' or this kanji 廿 for 20) but it's mostly for the old-timey flavor and fun in its own right. You will also learn a LOT of Buddhist terms and some period accurate pop-psychology.

The opening narration in the first episode is taken right out of a passage in Ubume if I remember correctly.
@LuckyDaikon Stop. Was the original work actually written before the war?
May 10, 10:11 PM
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@LuckyDaikon Stop. Was the original work actually written before the war?
@RobertBobert The author was born in the 60s, so most definitely not. He just really likes to enhance reader experience by giving them the feeling of past times.
May 11, 4:05 AM

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@RobertBobert The author was born in the 60s, so most definitely not. He just really likes to enhance reader experience by giving them the feeling of past times.
@Mimi_Violet So, is this really aimed at adults with a fairly good knowledge of Japanese philology?
May 11, 5:55 AM
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@Mimi_Violet So, is this really aimed at adults with a fairly good knowledge of Japanese philology?
@RobertBobert No, it's aimed at all adults, from what I heard the difficult kanji comes with kana on it to help. He'd be setting himself up for failure if he would actually limit his audience that way.
May 13, 8:39 AM
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@LuckyDaikon Stop. Was the original work actually written before the war?
@RobertBobert Sorry! I could have been more clear. Journals and letters characters wrote pre-war would use the non-standard Japanese.

It's a little difficult at first for non-native speakers (though you get used to it quickly), but I imagine if you grew up in Japan your High School classes would have adequately prepared you.

I actually think it's a pretty nice introduction to that kind of language if you have an interest in it.
May 13, 8:54 AM

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@RobertBobert Sorry! I could have been more clear. Journals and letters characters wrote pre-war would use the non-standard Japanese.

It's a little difficult at first for non-native speakers (though you get used to it quickly), but I imagine if you grew up in Japan your High School classes would have adequately prepared you.

I actually think it's a pretty nice introduction to that kind of language if you have an interest in it.
@LuckyDaikon Well, as I understood the explanation above, his writing is very authentic in creating the right setting and atmosphere. It's as if a Victorian story created in our time would retain all the norms of Victorian English combined with the literary traditions of that time.

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