I've been MAL user for a few years now and seen animes that go on number 1 spot but fell behind FMAB sooner or later, but Frieren has stood over it. And that made me think does frieren actually deserve number 1 spot is it that good? I don't want to say it's overrated because i personally think it's good show and has amazing story but i feel something missing. It was something else when it came but now later on reflecting on it I think it's for me solid 7-9 but for most 10 (but not 1st). ps IDK why i made this but I want to see other peoples opinions on that. And why is One piece fan letter 3rd?? |
| This isn't a rage bait btw I just wan't to see why people think it is top 1 all time |
| It's recent and popular You can't look at the MAL top list in terms of people thinking it's the best thing ever it's people choosing to watch and on average liking them a lot Like I thought Brotherhood's opening few episodes were terrible in comparison to the original's which I also dropped and didn't rate so my opinion of Brotherhood doesn't go on the list |
| "Electronic aids, particularly domestic computers, will help the inner migration, the opting out of reality. Reality is no longer going to be the stuff out there, but the stuff inside your head. It's going to be commercial and nasty at the same time." - JG Ballard, interview with Heavy Metal Magazine (1982) |
Does frieren actually deserve number 1 spot Yea, otherwise it wouldn't be number 1 |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
| some of the high scores surely is because of bandwagon effect and recency bias thats just how social influence is |
| I would say no for me, but mal score is about appeal to the largest audience. Frieren hentai is great though. OP letter is at the top likely for sequelflation. A lot of haters to long running anime drop leaving the fans to score the later seasons. S1 gets rated by the general audience even those outside the target demographics. |
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| Yes. Next question. 'Shill campaign' isn't really an explanation in the face of an equally concerted effort by FMAB fans to review bomb it like they always do. In the end, it all averages out and you're left with what people think of it - and it just so happens that a lot of people liked it a lot. That's all there is to it. |
nachomasa said: why is One piece fan letter 3rd? Because the animation is extraordinary. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
Reply to Maurice_5
Yes.
Next question.
'Shill campaign' isn't really an explanation in the face of an equally concerted effort by FMAB fans to review bomb it like they always do. In the end, it all averages out and you're left with what people think of it - and it just so happens that a lot of people liked it a lot. That's all there is to it.
Next question.
'Shill campaign' isn't really an explanation in the face of an equally concerted effort by FMAB fans to review bomb it like they always do. In the end, it all averages out and you're left with what people think of it - and it just so happens that a lot of people liked it a lot. That's all there is to it.
| @Maurice_5 I get what your saying but mostly what I hear is that either they Love frieren or its mid. And I therefore I think frieren has many glazers as fmab May have too, but frieren has more of them. |
Reply to Zarutaku
nachomasa said:
why is One piece fan letter 3rd?
why is One piece fan letter 3rd?
Because the animation is extraordinary.
| @Zarutaku is it or is this "glazing" too? |
Reply to Raina0h
Contrary to lower ratings which get too influenced by people due to being too "generic" or overdone which tends to make any of the following shows go a bit lower.
High ratings are very fair.
Good story, good pace, music played well with the scenes, characters were likeable unique funny moments, battle scenes were well done, the first 10 i gave in a good while.
High ratings are very fair.
Good story, good pace, music played well with the scenes, characters were likeable unique funny moments, battle scenes were well done, the first 10 i gave in a good while.
| @Raina0h yeh that's a fair point but I think kthere are many who don't think its 10 but rates it 10. This is just my hypothesis. |
nachomasaJan 10, 2:35 PM
| Before this thread gets locked, I will say NO. |
If you enjoyed the time you wasted, then its not a waste of time.  |
| No. K-On deserves the top spot, and if not that, Non Non Biyori. Onimai should at least be Top 10. |
| pros - what I always say: the right mix of action and contemplativeness to appeal to both young and expert anime fans - top tier production value cons - recency bias - the % of positive reviews is much lower than any other anime that stayed close to the top for more than a decade - it isn't a complete story The cons make me think that it won't keep the n°1 spot forever, but personally I do believe it is better than any other anime that ever reached n°1 on MAL in the past (Your Name, AoT, FMA & FMAB, Death Note, Clannad AS, Gurren Lagann, Gintama). nachomasa said: And why is One Piece fan letter 3rd?? Because it's well made, I'm not surprised that most One Piece fans rated it 10/10. I'm not one of them, but I even rated it higher than the main story. |
| I think it's generally frowned upon to talk about anime rankings and ratings on this forum. It usually leads to fans of different shows screeching at each other and (to quote) "doesn't encourage meaningful discussion"... which I tend to agree. |
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
No. K-On deserves the top spot, and if not that, Non Non Biyori. Onimai should at least be Top 10.
| @ForgotEyeWasHere the movie was banger where they went to UK havent seen the series |
| I don't think this site's rankings are meant to be so truthful or important such that there are 'deserving' and 'undeserving' rankings. I think the rankings are best thought of as average opinions of this website's userbase, and nothing further. This thread is gonna get locked since on this website that features scores and rankings you're not allowed to discuss scores and rankings. A thread just like this one appeared not two weeks ago and is now locked. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2195856 |
Reply to perseii
I think it's generally frowned upon to talk about anime rankings and ratings on this forum.
It usually leads to fans of different shows screeching at each other and (to quote) "doesn't encourage meaningful discussion"... which I tend to agree.
It usually leads to fans of different shows screeching at each other and (to quote) "doesn't encourage meaningful discussion"... which I tend to agree.
| @perseii yeh you're right but it would Be great If everyone would give their real unbiased opinions of shows and then the top list would make a bit more sense |
Reply to TheMechaManiac
Frieren had a pretty massive shill push shortly before the anime aired.
But, just for future reference: MAL aggregate ratings indicate either the popularity or the presence of a shill campaign for a certain show.
But, just for future reference: MAL aggregate ratings indicate either the popularity or the presence of a shill campaign for a certain show.
TheMechaManiac said: shill campaign I thought MAL had safeguards in place to counter brigading and campaigning? I recently learned that there's an algorithm in place that leaves the 10/10 and 1/10 ratings out of the average calculation if there are suspiciously large number of them. |
Reply to wizdom224
I don't think this site's rankings are meant to be so truthful or important such that there are 'deserving' and 'undeserving' rankings. I think the rankings are best thought of as average opinions of this website's userbase, and nothing further.
This thread is gonna get locked since on this website that features scores and rankings you're not allowed to discuss scores and rankings. A thread just like this one appeared not two weeks ago and is now locked.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2195856
This thread is gonna get locked since on this website that features scores and rankings you're not allowed to discuss scores and rankings. A thread just like this one appeared not two weeks ago and is now locked.
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2195856
| @wizdom224 yeh and im sorry cuz I didn't know that rule that we cant discuss ratings / top list |
Yes, Frieren deserves to be the number one, 100% of it |
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| No. I found it to be just another generic and quite badly written fantasy anime with lots of wasted potential. But at least production quality is good. |
| My opinion doesn't align with this website's top anime list to begin with, so I couldn't care less what series is at number one. Myanimelist is not the end all be all. |
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| Weekly "Frieren doesn't deserve no.1" post huh.. Yes it deserves very much. |
| I don't know, I've seen many titles trying alongside with my favourite to be in top 1 for short-quite a while. I personally am not a big fan of fmab as I've rated it as an 8, I have around 200+ entries which I like more, so that should tell enough what is my opinion on fmab being in top page x). I personally enjoyed Frieren a lot as someone can spot it among my favourites. That's one of the shows for which I can't just nitpick, even if there is something wrong I ain't even paying attention for that. |
| From monday 13th janurary 22:30 of Polish time zone, up to another monday 20th of january I will be unable to reply, interact in forums as I am in that time in France, so I will be only using my list to update episodes and nothing else. |
Reply to nachomasa
@Zarutaku is it or is this "glazing" too?
| @nachomasa Nah, the style is pretty unique. The blood, sweat and tears to craft this special is visible at any given moment. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
| omg the 1000th thread abt the same topic, cant ppl read the other 999 threads and test in this way the opinions of others instead of recycling the same comments. But oh well, sooner or rater this one will be locked as the other 999 threads... |
bucciest said: My opinion doesn't align with this website's top anime list to begin with, so I couldn't care less what series is at number one. Myanimelist is not the end all be all. What about all the other major anime ranking websites combined? Because Frieren is ranked #1 on pretty much all of them for months already. |
DesuMaiden said: Nobody resembles me physically because I don't even physically exist. |
| hell no!!...its only number one bc modern fans have atrocious taste yes its "popular" but that does not always = good iv also heard its an absolute snooze-fest for soy drinkers imo FMAB is a worthy #1, im happy with that |
ItachiDeltaForceJan 10, 4:52 PM
Reply to Zarutaku
bucciest said:
My opinion doesn't align with this website's top anime list to begin with, so I couldn't care less what series is at number one. Myanimelist is not the end all be all.
My opinion doesn't align with this website's top anime list to begin with, so I couldn't care less what series is at number one. Myanimelist is not the end all be all.
What about all the other major anime ranking websites combined? Because Frieren is ranked #1 on pretty much all of them for months already.
| @Zarutaku Just took a look at anilist's list and have the same disconnection with that, but I'm not looking at this stuff on a regular basis. These top anime lists don't matter to me in general. |
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| I personally enjoyed Frieren very much so I think it certaintly deserved the spot, still no matter what anime will be nr.1 - people will always argue about it. I love FMAB, but when it comes to rankings something was meant to "overthrow it" some day, maybe the rating will stay, maybe not, time will tell. |
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| I just think it's nice a generic battle Shounen isn't taking the 1st spot, considering they dominate half the top 10. |
| "Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
| Weirdly I don't think its deserves number 1, yet I can't name another anime fitting the number 1 spot other than frieren that Iv seen. |
| Does Lord of the Rings deserve the title of "best cinema trilogy"? In both cases the answer is "yes" |
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
| For me, definitely. If it's not no.1, it's at least up there. I definitely think it's the best of the current top five anyway. So it would be more of a question, "If not Frieren, then what?" |
| Whether you personally like Frieren or not you can't deny that it's a solid show in almost every way. The story starts strong and ends in a reasonable way with an obvious continuation on the way. The production from the art, animation, and music are all top notch. The story is well told and isn't predictable since it's the aftermath of a hero's journey. You could try to claim it's recency bias but if that were the case I could think of shows that would have surpassed FMAB by now. Especially since FMAB has flaws that shows like Frieren don't have. Also lets not pretend like a section of FMA fans weren't 1 score bombing shows that passed it in the past not because those shows deserved it but simply because they wanted FMAB to stay number 1. Is Frieren my personal favorite anime of all time? No I actually gave it a 9 because it's a great show but it didn't quite crack my personal favorites. However I think it deserves to be in the argument for the top anime on the site and if I'm being honest as good as FMAB is I think shows like AOT and Vinland Saga had surpassed it already and they should have been able to have a fair shot at the top spot. It's all a popularity contest at the end of the day though so I wouldn't take the rankings too seriously. I just find people who 1 score bomb shows they know are good to keep a show they like more on top to be annoying. |
| This thread again. Nope, it doesn't deserve the first spot. |
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| MAL's rating isn't given by AI or handful of critics. |
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