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Dec 29, 2024 8:53 PM
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Anime only here and maybe Isagi's biggest hater.

I just do not see the appeal of him at all. He isn't a great athlete, he has a bland personality, he barely slips through most challenges, but because he has plot armor he'll always be in the right spot in the most pivotal moment.

It's so frustrating. I'm not normally like this with anime sports protags (Hinata, Kuroko, Ashito) so idk why Isagi specifically annoys the shit out of me. I guess because it doesn't feel like he earns it?

Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.
Dec 29, 2024 10:04 PM
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you clearly don't remember how much he struggled to get to where he is. he was a terrible player. he was the very bottom of the pack. no, he isn't always at the right place. he has suffered losts solely because he wasn't in the right place, and if he was in the right place, he didn't have the ego to take the shot! he is literally an underdog that has trained himself to be better than he was, and you see it happen more and more frequently. he tries to outdo himself at every moment in a game. he fails at simple things like one v ones and it's pathetic sometimes, honestly lmfao but he doesn't let it stop him from doing what he CAN do. he is an awesome character who has only one thing going for him, and that's his hunger to be better than he is currently. you can't not admire that.

also, I'm sorry in advance. I'm super hyped right now after rewatching the final two episodes, so I don't mean to come off so aggressively. the hype is too real atm.
Dec 29, 2024 11:03 PM
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you clearly don't remember how much he struggled to get to where he is. he was a terrible player. he was the very bottom of the pack. no, he isn't always at the right place. he has suffered losts solely because he wasn't in the right place, and if he was in the right place, he didn't have the ego to take the shot! he is literally an underdog that has trained himself to be better than he was, and you see it happen more and more frequently. he tries to outdo himself at every moment in a game. he fails at simple things like one v ones and it's pathetic sometimes, honestly lmfao but he doesn't let it stop him from doing what he CAN do. he is an awesome character who has only one thing going for him, and that's his hunger to be better than he is currently. you can't not admire that.

also, I'm sorry in advance. I'm super hyped right now after rewatching the final two episodes, so I don't mean to come off so aggressively. the hype is too real atm.
@vanillasaruto idk I feel like almost every Blue Lock character tries to outdo themself in every game. It's just Isagi gets the MC privilege of it actually coming to fruition.

I think that's another part of my frustration with him as a character - I don't feel like there is any reason why HE should be getting this special treatment.

Everyone has had to work. Everyone has had to get better. He stole training routines from Barou and Rin, it's not like he is the clear hardest worker in Blue Lock. I guess his super power is being able to predict what everyone will do (at crucial plot moments), but that power is found nowhere in his actual personality and other Blue Lock players can do that too when the plot wants them to.

He doesn't feel like an underdog character to me like Hinata in Haikyuu, but rather a plot BS character and I think that might be where my frustrations when he succeeds comes from.
Dec 29, 2024 11:13 PM
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Don't watch the anime then mfers be nitpicking everything
Dec 29, 2024 11:17 PM
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i feel that Isagi progress doesn't feel natural and the contrast of Isagi attitude when he is on a match and out of the field it doesn't combine well it isn't believable that it is the same person. And with the amount of skills that the author gives to Isagi, he feels more like an attacker midfielder than a striker. And it would be more interesting if at the end Isagi doesn't win.
Dec 29, 2024 11:21 PM
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@vanillasaruto idk I feel like almost every Blue Lock character tries to outdo themself in every game. It's just Isagi gets the MC privilege of it actually coming to fruition.

I think that's another part of my frustration with him as a character - I don't feel like there is any reason why HE should be getting this special treatment.

Everyone has had to work. Everyone has had to get better. He stole training routines from Barou and Rin, it's not like he is the clear hardest worker in Blue Lock. I guess his super power is being able to predict what everyone will do (at crucial plot moments), but that power is found nowhere in his actual personality and other Blue Lock players can do that too when the plot wants them to.

He doesn't feel like an underdog character to me like Hinata in Haikyuu, but rather a plot BS character and I think that might be where my frustrations when he succeeds comes from.
@Blue_Maroon its funny that you mention Hinata because I actually see Isagi and Hinata in the same light. Both of them get overlooked because of their apparent "lack" of skills. Hinata is obviously short in a sport where height matters but he has a special skill that he cultivates with his team to make it into an amazing weapon. He too has suffered loss but his motivation to better himself is what allows him to overcome. I will say though, Hinata's portrayal is far better than Isagi's. I think Isagi's portrayal lacks the emotional struggle that Hinata's has. Though we've seen Isagi in agony, it's short lived. Though he is still in agony, he focuses it inwardly and it fuels his ego. Where as Hinata has an apparent emotional response that it becomes something he has to overcome. Comparatively, Hinata is more obviously the underdog. Isagi is a self centered underdog which may actually be the reason you don't like him hahaha because to be fair, Hinata is much more of a likable character who you want to root for and Isagi is a jerk who you may want to se fail lmfao idk, if that makes sense.

also, I've come down from my hype high just fyi.
Dec 29, 2024 11:29 PM
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Dec 29, 2024 11:57 PM
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hated isagi but after that goal, loved him again because of my dopamine hungry brain


SEEMS LIKE RIN GOT AN MAL ACCOUNT
Dec 30, 2024 12:06 AM
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nice try Rin, come back with the main acc
Dec 30, 2024 12:17 AM
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I'm an anime only. I don't really find any Blue Lock characters that much well written. But, I probably like Isagi the most. I always like Underdog MCs because it's very satisfying to watch when they surprise everyone. Isagi doesn't have much in his arsenal but he tries to make the best use of what he has. Also, I always like calculating characters although most of Isagi's monologue goes over my head. His lack of vocabulary is irritating though.
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Blue_Maroon said:
Anime only here and maybe Isagi's biggest hater.

I just do not see the appeal of him at all. He isn't a great athlete, he has a bland personality, he barely slips through most challenges, but because he has plot armor he'll always be in the right spot in the most pivotal moment.

It's so frustrating. I'm not normally like this with anime sports protags (Hinata, Kuroko, Ashito) so idk why Isagi specifically annoys the shit out of me. I guess because it doesn't feel like he earns it?

Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.

It's not that he's in the most pivotal spot at the perfect time or something, his understanding of soccer and reading of the field are very very high as compared to others and that's the reason in the end of the match Sae acknowledges Isagi but not Rin because Sae knows it's that brain of Isagi with very high soccer IQ that makes him the heart of blue lock. Sure that goal was impossible it wasn't for Rin and his awakening but Sae knows that Isagi can definitely reach that level of skill that Rin has someday if he just keeps playing in blue lock but on the contrary if might be difficult for Rin to obtain that same kind of mindset/logical thinking that Isagi already has because as we all saw Rin's flow state was raw destructive soccer and not anything rational. Not saying Rin can't become a rational player but that's something Isagi has in him from the start which explains why Ego picked Isagi himself while Anri picked the rest 299 strikers. Also wait till the Neo Egoist League and see for yourself the absolute menace Isagi would go on to become declaring war on almost everyone 💀
Dec 30, 2024 3:36 AM
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Keep crying😹😹
Dec 30, 2024 4:10 AM
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You haters keep hating on my goat Isagi for taking Ws.
Dec 30, 2024 4:59 AM
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Blue_Maroon said:
Anime only here and maybe Isagi's biggest hater.

I just do not see the appeal of him at all. He isn't a great athlete, he has a bland personality, he barely slips through most challenges, but because he has plot armor he'll always be in the right spot in the most pivotal moment.

It's so frustrating. I'm not normally like this with anime sports protags (Hinata, Kuroko, Ashito) so idk why Isagi specifically annoys the shit out of me. I guess because it doesn't feel like he earns it?

Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.

Ok, Rin.(character limit)
Dec 30, 2024 5:07 AM
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this turned into "blue_maroon hater FC" pretty quick 🫵🤣
Dec 30, 2024 5:25 AM
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Isagi is by FAR my favorite Sports MC, dude ain't boring like the ones you listed.
Dec 30, 2024 11:14 AM
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Blue_Maroon said:
@vanillasaruto idk I feel like almost every Blue Lock character tries to outdo themself in every game. It's just Isagi gets the MC privilege of it actually coming to fruition.

I think that's another part of my frustration with him as a character - I don't feel like there is any reason why HE should be getting this special treatment.

Everyone has had to work. Everyone has had to get better. He stole training routines from Barou and Rin, it's not like he is the clear hardest worker in Blue Lock. I guess his super power is being able to predict what everyone will do (at crucial plot moments), but that power is found nowhere in his actual personality and other Blue Lock players can do that too when the plot wants them to.

He doesn't feel like an underdog character to me like Hinata in Haikyuu, but rather a plot BS character and I think that might be where my frustrations when he succeeds comes from.

Isagi is a natural born observer. Spoilers ahead from light novel* Since he was really young like 2-3, he used to point out at corners of his room and cry when his parents went to check they found there was a mosquito or a fly there which they or any normal human wouldn't have observed. He was also able to predict by looking at the surroundings when playing at parks that it was going to rain. He had talent and was one of the best middle school strikers but due to his coach in high school and all that team spirit his inner self was subsidized and he became what he is now.
Now for the topic of him being at the right spot every time that's what ego meant from Isagi. He doesn't want someone who can do flashy skills or traps or plays to get all the cheers from the crowd he wants someone who can score goals which Isagi did now and is gonna do in further arcs. As he is based on Inzaghi, a striker which almost every team he played against despised because of him being "lucky" and being at the right spot all the time, he represents his inspiration pretty well. Inzaghi was said to disappear for the whole match of 90 minutes and appear out of nowhere at the 90+1 at the perfect spot where a clear went to finish it off.
Compared to that Isagi did much more to this game than anyone in the blue lock team. Every goal has his contributions in the match. Even Sae acknowledged him to be the heart of blue lock which if you can't understand means he is vital for the functioning of blue lock. He doesn't always win as well and we saw that all in the second selection losing to rin 2 times 2nd time being because of Rin being "lucky" if you can call that. I don't think that you should like all characters but hating a character despite his hardwork and acknowledging his losses and saying he has plot armour for 1 time he wins is kind of far stretched.
Dec 30, 2024 4:00 PM
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Read the manga, Isagi is him😹🙏
Dec 30, 2024 4:03 PM

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@vanillasaruto idk I feel like almost every Blue Lock character tries to outdo themself in every game. It's just Isagi gets the MC privilege of it actually coming to fruition.

I think that's another part of my frustration with him as a character - I don't feel like there is any reason why HE should be getting this special treatment.

Everyone has had to work. Everyone has had to get better. He stole training routines from Barou and Rin, it's not like he is the clear hardest worker in Blue Lock. I guess his super power is being able to predict what everyone will do (at crucial plot moments), but that power is found nowhere in his actual personality and other Blue Lock players can do that too when the plot wants them to.

He doesn't feel like an underdog character to me like Hinata in Haikyuu, but rather a plot BS character and I think that might be where my frustrations when he succeeds comes from.

Isagi is a natural born observer. Spoilers ahead from light novel* Since he was really young like 2-3, he used to point out at corners of his room and cry when his parents went to check they found there was a mosquito or a fly there which they or any normal human wouldn't have observed. He was also able to predict by looking at the surroundings when playing at parks that it was going to rain. He had talent and was one of the best middle school strikers but due to his coach in high school and all that team spirit his inner self was subsidized and he became what he is now.
Now for the topic of him being at the right spot every time that's what ego meant from Isagi. He doesn't want someone who can do flashy skills or traps or plays to get all the cheers from the crowd he wants someone who can score goals which Isagi did now and is gonna do in further arcs. As he is based on Inzaghi, a striker which almost every team he played against despised because of him being "lucky" and being at the right spot all the time, he represents his inspiration pretty well. Inzaghi was said to disappear for the whole match of 90 minutes and appear out of nowhere at the 90+1 at the perfect spot where a clear went to finish it off.
Compared to that Isagi did much more to this game than anyone in the blue lock team. Every goal has his contributions in the match. Even Sae acknowledged him to be the heart of blue lock which if you can't understand means he is vital for the functioning of blue lock. He doesn't always win as well and we saw that all in the second selection losing to rin 2 times 2nd time being because of Rin being "lucky" if you can call that. I don't think that you should like all characters but hating a character despite his hardwork and acknowledging his losses and saying he has plot armour for 1 time he wins is kind of far stretched.
@Shinotaro Isagi definitely does have plot armor though, they just excuse it as "IQ" or whatever and have him rebuild himself during an important match to be the clutch player. I think the execution is what makes it feel bullshitty to me.

As for the enhanced backstory that we'll get later on, that kind of goes along with my critique having only seen what I've seen so far. The writer realized that he needed to add some superpower backstory to Isagi to explain why he's able to compete at an all-world level once the original backstory no longer fit with how he is able to make all these plays. I'd rather have gotten that backstory from the jump so none of this would have seemed out of nowhere.

Also, that enhanced backstory doesn't really fit with his current bland out-of-match character either so that's another thing that kinda bugs me about him. Maybe I am just secretly Rin tho.
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Blue_Maroon said:
Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.


I also. I also hate Isagi and all the characters from Blue Lock.
Dec 30, 2024 6:29 PM

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Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.


I also. I also hate Isagi and all the characters from Blue Lock.
@utopia- I don't feel very strongly either way about the rest of the characters, but respect to a fellow hater in arms
Dec 31, 2024 8:41 AM
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Blue_Maroon said:
Anime only here and maybe Isagi's biggest hater.

I just do not see the appeal of him at all. He isn't a great athlete, he has a bland personality, he barely slips through most challenges, but because he has plot armor he'll always be in the right spot in the most pivotal moment.

It's so frustrating. I'm not normally like this with anime sports protags (Hinata, Kuroko, Ashito) so idk why Isagi specifically annoys the shit out of me. I guess because it doesn't feel like he earns it?

Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.

tbh imo they are implying them to real counterparts, idk if you watch football but i see isagi as "tap in merchants" who have a similar play style where they get lotta goals but no one likes them anyways cause they don't seem like they have skills someone like Oliver giroud for example
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im just like you, really annoyed at this MC, he is also boring, if only the story revolved around Reo-Nagi or Sae-Rin I would like it much more, and the most annoying thing is that his rivals go crazy for little things he does i mean if he just touches the ball they would say ohh he is in my way ooh him again , so I dislike the way that everyone is annoyed at him because that adds value to him outta nowhere for small things. Not gonna talk about the fact that he is propably the only one who improves and trains, the others are just there for non important flashy secenes.....
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im just like you, really annoyed at this MC, he is also boring, if only the story revolved around Reo-Nagi or Sae-Rin I would like it much more, and the most annoying thing is that his rivals go crazy for little things he does i mean if he just touches the ball they would say ohh he is in my way ooh him again , so I dislike the way that everyone is annoyed at him because that adds value to him outta nowhere for small things. Not gonna talk about the fact that he is propably the only one who improves and trains, the others are just there for non important flashy secenes.....
@Romaysa Bingo. Even at the start of the U20 match Oliver marked Isagi as his rival for the match despite the entire team being built around Rin. That's how it's been the entire show.

Granted, it always turns out to be valid because Isagi is written to win, but why didn't anyone think the same thing about Nagi after he scored his supernatural goal? It just doesn't feel like realistic character writing.
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Isagi Yoichi basically plays the role of Johan Cruyff, in his idea of total football. Being a Conductor while also positioning himself where he can score.
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Blue_Maroon said:
Anime only here and maybe Isagi's biggest hater.

I just do not see the appeal of him at all. He isn't a great athlete, he has a bland personality, he barely slips through most challenges, but because he has plot armor he'll always be in the right spot in the most pivotal moment.

It's so frustrating. I'm not normally like this with anime sports protags (Hinata, Kuroko, Ashito) so idk why Isagi specifically annoys the shit out of me. I guess because it doesn't feel like he earns it?

Idk but I'm wondering if there's any other Isagi haters out there that can share in my endeavor.

Bla bla bla bla, Isagi is the GOAT read the manga blud
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Blue_Maroon said:
@Romaysa Bingo. Even at the start of the U20 match Oliver marked Isagi as his rival for the match despite the entire team being built around Rin. That's how it's been the entire show.

Granted, it always turns out to be valid because Isagi is written to win, but why didn't anyone think the same thing about Nagi after he scored his supernatural goal? It just doesn't feel like realistic character writing.

Maybe because Isagi was trying to get past him in the first minute, when him and Bachira were trying to score, so Aiku immediately realized that he has to keep an eye on him😱
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@Romaysa Bingo. Even at the start of the U20 match Oliver marked Isagi as his rival for the match despite the entire team being built around Rin. That's how it's been the entire show.

Granted, it always turns out to be valid because Isagi is written to win, but why didn't anyone think the same thing about Nagi after he scored his supernatural goal? It just doesn't feel like realistic character writing.

Maybe because Isagi was trying to get past him in the first minute, when him and Bachira were trying to score, so Aiku immediately realized that he has to keep an eye on him😱
@CleanWhip And he didn't feel the need to keep an eye on Nagi when he scored that goal? Or Rin when he was the focal point of the offense? And even though Aiku shut down Isagi for almost the entire game he gives him the captain handshake at the end of the match.

It's the series showing clear MC bias and not treating all characters fairly, which is part of my hate toward Isagi.
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i feel that Isagi progress doesn't feel natural and the contrast of Isagi attitude when he is on a match and out of the field it doesn't combine well it isn't believable that it is the same person. And with the amount of skills that the author gives to Isagi, he feels more like an attacker midfielder than a striker. And it would be more interesting if at the end Isagi doesn't win.
@CesarMagnan I couldn't agree more. His off pitch and on pitch attitude is too contrasting. This I felt especially in episode 17, episode 18 - in which Barou awakens and in episode 19. I agree with how Isagi was behaving with Barou calling him donkey and shoving him aside disrespecting him as he was holding the team back and could have made them lose the match.
The problem arises post the match when Barou made them win and immediately Isagi starts sucking up to him. Like he just forgot how disrespectfully he was behaving with Barou a few minutes ago (which Barou righfully deserved btw) but the complete 360 by Isagi was just so irritating and cringe to watch. In fact it was Barou who hismelf admitted that he was holding the team back and that he sort of deserved that treatment. Isagi just became a coward in front of him in the cafeteria. Isagi should have made it clear that how frustrated he felt coz of Barou not cooperating with them which brought on the on field disrespect and made it clear to him to not repeat such behaviour in the future and ensure cooperation. But as I said Isagi just whittled down like a scardy cat. Also Isagi doesn't stay consistent and what I am saying is his personality. I know he has to reconstruct himself each and every game but his core personality just keep on changing. All other players too have evolved and grown. But their core personality is still the same. Like Barou, Nagi, Bachira have all grown and evolved but at the core they are still the same. As someone said in this thread that Isagi has a really bland personality which I feel is especially true after I completed Season 1 and he just keeps on changing it according to the match and the circumstances to suit his needs.
Another scene which I did not like was how he was aping Rin's cooldown routine after joining his team. Like dude at least see if a person's trainig regimine is suitable for you or not. And then declaring that he is Rin's rival like a tertiary background character. Man that whole scene was so gross to watch. That's not the protaganist whom I have been following for so long.
Let's see how his character goes from hee in season 2 but Isagi cleary is not my favourite anymore. In fact I like Nagi and Bachira way more now. Isagi for me is just a protaganist I just have to contend with in order to watch Blue Lock. If I get too anoyed with him I just might drop the show.
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@CleanWhip And he didn't feel the need to keep an eye on Nagi when he scored that goal? Or Rin when he was the focal point of the offense? And even though Aiku shut down Isagi for almost the entire game he gives him the captain handshake at the end of the match.

It's the series showing clear MC bias and not treating all characters fairly, which is part of my hate toward Isagi.

He literally was there to prevent Rins shot, but Rin tricked him with a Trivela and on Nagis goal he just wasn’t in time because he had already blocked the shot from Yukimiya and there were multiple other scenes where he blocked other players( Rins before Barous goal, Yukimiyas gyro shot after his flow etc) like I don’t get why tf you complaining about Aiku having one ore two conversations more with Isagi than other characters, when he still tried to prevent every goal and every attack, no matter who the character was💀 This is just cherrypicking shit to have a reason for hating on Isagi
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Isagi is based on an Italian player called Inzagi. He was not fast or strong, and his technique was nothing special, but he had a very good trait: He was always in the right place and at the right time, so that's why he scored a lot and managed to win a lot with A.C. Milan.

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