Kimi ga Nozomu Eien is just a filler in the grand scheme of Muv Luv aka Best Story ever told in humanity history yet this small entry is better than all romances, why is that? Are we living in the Extra universe? Do you think Yoko has the biggest boobs in Muv Luv? Who's your favorite BETA? TENNOU HEIKA, BANZAI!!! |
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| Isn't it the other way around? Muv Luv being a spin-off of it. |
| There's no answer to a wrongly premised question. |
| Wrong statement in the first place. Once again, poor Catalano desperately begs to discuss his own person instead of anime. |
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| If you want to talk suprisingly successful spinoffs, Nanoha is a good place to start. |
| Most drama romance series are shoujo. Muv Luv is a seinen. |
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Hah, it's not even the best Iscream scene |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
| The girls in Muv Luv are truly gorgeous. The blonde especially |
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Reply to ppaaccoojrf
@thewiru MuvLuv is a videogame so from the beginning the manga demographics do not apply.
It's also R18 so it cannot possibly be shounen even if they did apply.
Both MuvLuv and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien are stories aimed for adult men. That would make them "seinen" and a Japanese person would say they're 青年向け, but it doesn't really make sense to use those terms in English because it's just plain language and not specific terminology.
It's also R18 so it cannot possibly be shounen even if they did apply.
Both MuvLuv and Kimi ga Nozomu Eien are stories aimed for adult men. That would make them "seinen" and a Japanese person would say they're 青年向け, but it doesn't really make sense to use those terms in English because it's just plain language and not specific terminology.
ppaaccoojrf said: MuvLuv is a videogame so from the beginning the manga demographics do not apply. By that logic we wouldn't be able to call any anime ever as being shounen/shoujo/etc. There exists a Muv Luv manga and it is a shounen, so I see no reason to not call it such. |
Reply to thewiru
ppaaccoojrf said:
MuvLuv is a videogame so from the beginning the manga demographics do not apply.
MuvLuv is a videogame so from the beginning the manga demographics do not apply.
By that logic we wouldn't be able to call any anime ever as being shounen/shoujo/etc.
There exists a Muv Luv manga and it is a shounen, so I see no reason to not call it such.
thewiru said: There exists a Muv Luv manga and it is a shounen, so I see no reason to not call it such. Except the source material features pornography, as the other user pointed out. A shounen is not allowed to buy it. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| no idea my only exposure to muv luv is the mid anime adaptation |
Reply to ppaaccoojrf
@thewiru Yes, you're following that logic correctly to a very sensible conclusion.
It's incorrect to refer to anime as "shounen" or "shoujo". Manga were usually clearly defined by the magazines they were published on out of necessity so that each demographic knew which magazine to pay attention to, and even that is not always true nowadays due to web releases. But there's no "shounen block" or "shoujo channel". There's some specific blocks aimed for different demographics but they don't usually use this specific terminology. It makes more sense to call an anime that aired in Noitamina a "Noitamina anime" than to call if a "josei anime" even if they were usually aimed towards older women and plenty of them adapted josei manga. But more importantly you wouldn't do that because it's way more helpful to use actual descriptions of the anime.
And it's rather bizarre to use the MuvLuv manga to categorize the whole series when it's not the original work. The manga could be considered shounen due to having been published in a shounen magazine (which by the way means nothing at the end of the day), but that doesn't mean the anime or the original work should.
It's incorrect to refer to anime as "shounen" or "shoujo". Manga were usually clearly defined by the magazines they were published on out of necessity so that each demographic knew which magazine to pay attention to, and even that is not always true nowadays due to web releases. But there's no "shounen block" or "shoujo channel". There's some specific blocks aimed for different demographics but they don't usually use this specific terminology. It makes more sense to call an anime that aired in Noitamina a "Noitamina anime" than to call if a "josei anime" even if they were usually aimed towards older women and plenty of them adapted josei manga. But more importantly you wouldn't do that because it's way more helpful to use actual descriptions of the anime.
And it's rather bizarre to use the MuvLuv manga to categorize the whole series when it's not the original work. The manga could be considered shounen due to having been published in a shounen magazine (which by the way means nothing at the end of the day), but that doesn't mean the anime or the original work should.
| @ppaaccoojrf I wasn't being rhetoric when I talk about being incorrect classifying anime in those terms: It is, indeed, incorrect, though it can be made correct if we use it as to mean "anime [adaptation of a] shounen/josei/etc [manga]". Which brings us to cases where the original isn't a manga (Be the original a LN, VN, Game or even an Anime): It indeed makes no sense to use the terms here (Unless we're talking about the adaptations themselves). Granted, if we already violate this rule (Which we shouldn't, but we already do regardless), then in my head it makes more sense to retroactively classify it in what form it was adapted. Interpret this as me saying that is possible to divide by zero in order to mathematically prove something, sort of like doing limits. |
Reply to Lucifrost
thewiru said:
There exists a Muv Luv manga and it is a shounen, so I see no reason to not call it such.
There exists a Muv Luv manga and it is a shounen, so I see no reason to not call it such.
Except the source material features pornography, as the other user pointed out. A shounen is not allowed to buy it.
| @Lucifrost Counterpoint: Is common for this type of VN to also be published without adult scenes (See Steam). |
Reply to thewiru
@Lucifrost
Counterpoint: Is common for this type of VN to also be published without adult scenes (See Steam).
Counterpoint: Is common for this type of VN to also be published without adult scenes (See Steam).
| @thewiru Yes, but that doesn't change the target audience of the original. Which in the case of both Rumbling Hearts and Muv-Luv, is adults. Adaptations and ports that feature different content can be aimed at a different audience than the original, which is shounen in the case of that Muv-Luv manga you mentioned. |
| その目だれの目？ |
Reply to Lucifrost
@thewiru
Yes, but that doesn't change the target audience of the original. Which in the case of both Rumbling Hearts and Muv-Luv, is adults.
Adaptations and ports that feature different content can be aimed at a different audience than the original, which is shounen in the case of that Muv-Luv manga you mentioned.
Yes, but that doesn't change the target audience of the original. Which in the case of both Rumbling Hearts and Muv-Luv, is adults.
Adaptations and ports that feature different content can be aimed at a different audience than the original, which is shounen in the case of that Muv-Luv manga you mentioned.
| @Lucifrost Fair enough, I yield. .. |
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