| Do you actually like lame duck shounen main characters? As in MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength. Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times. They remain less cool even after becoming stronger or in some cases, surpassing their senpai/mentors. Simple proof that people aren't as invested in these lame ducks is that 90% of them have way fewer favorites than their senpai/mentors. Some examples (these MCs all placed 2nd / 3rd on MAL favourite count, while their mentors placed 1st): Asta vs Yami (Black Clover) Eren vs Levi (Attack on Titan) Yuuji vs Gojo (Jujutsu Kaisen) Karma vs Koro-sensei (Assassination Classroom) Shinra vs Benimaru (Fire Force) Osamu vs Jin (World Trigger) Mob vs Reigen (Mob Psycho 100) Is this another bad battle shounen trope or is this a clever bait and switch from the author? |
-rkr-Sep 12, 10:10 AM
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| Just depends on the character. I prefer Eren over Levi but Gojo over Yuji. For me this isn't about strength. |
| As long as their character is well written it shouldn't matter tbh. The thing is that type of character can sometimes be incredibly beneficial to the story and end up having a lot of favorites in MAL. Eren is a good example of this because after the first 3 seasons people had a complete 180 turn on his character and he was eventually regarded as one of the greatest protagonists ever. |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0)  |
| As long as their character is well written it shouldn't matter tbh. The thing is that type of character can sometimes be incredibly beneficial to the story and end up having a lot of favorites in MAL. Eren is a good example of this because after the first 3 seasons people had a complete 180 turn on his character and he was eventually regarded as one of the greatest protagonists ever. |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0) |
| As long as their character is well written it shouldn't matter tbh. The thing is that type of character can sometimes be incredibly beneficial to the story and end up having a lot of favorites in MAL. Eren is a good example of this because after the first 3 seasons people had a complete 180 turn on his character and he was eventually regarded as one of the greatest protagonists ever. |
| "Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0) |
| You lost me when you said "dragged out" and "not realistic" back to back. I think a characters growth being dragged out is more realistic. Unless they're roiding up, no one gets that strong that fast. And, to me at least, it makes sense from a narrative stand point. Things would end way quicker if the mc was always the peak level of power at the start of each new arc. And these type of shows, for better or for worse, are designed to go on for as long as possible. Now lets flip the script and point out my other issue with this. Expecting a series like Black Clover or any of those others you listed to be realistic to begin with. The only bit of realism they need to adhere to is the rules set within the world itself. Not much else to say here. Now, I guess I might as well say my take on the last part. A main protagonist is more or less suppose to be the most relatable character. The easiest character to grab onto. This, of course, is a double edged sword, because the more relatable they are, the more boring they might seem. Depends on how it's done. Now, what would you do if you intend to stick to that, but still want to keep as many people as possible engaged? If you answered "make the other characters stand out more in comparison." you get arbitrary points towards a non-existent prize. And that's why a lot of people are more drawn to characters like Levi and Gojo in their respective series. |
| A world in which MC would be the top 1 of everything would be in many cases the most boring battle shounen cause in other words if MC loses it means instant lose and creating a Villain in such series would be even more mundane. Also below average in terms of strength for Asta, Eren, Yuuji? [idk the other characters and with Shinra I'd agree], Asta who's worked out his whole life and most likely physically he's the strongest in BC, Eren being in military camp through his teenage years, Yuuji who's also physically too strong for no known reason, are you sure you've watched/read these series? |
| Yeah you seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of what the phrase "Lame Duck" means |
| I don't know about the point regarding the main characters, but I do think that your references show that people like to see cool OP character do cool feats. In many cases, this is despite the main character being more interesting than the side character. Out of the 4 that I have seen, this would be the case for AoT, JJK, and Fire Force. With Black Clover being the exception. |
Ri-KoRin said: Yes, I like that.MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength Ri-KoRin said: No, I dislike that.Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times. |
This dance is the pinnacle of human achievement. |
| I dont understand how Assasination Classroom is an example for it. Firstly the popularity of this two characters are on the same level. Karma was never weak he is just human while Koro senesi is not the series never implied to us that Karma or Nagasa alone can beat Koro senesi and the changes Karma had towards series is pretty realistic same with Nagisa. Im not sure how Levi and eren is example to this too actually. The growth of eren was logical and definitely become 'cool' after some time. About the trope it pretty easy to ruin it weaker MC is not a problem but them being not interesting is .Fire force is good example for me Shinra is just boring to me while Benimaru is one of the two reasons I still can watch this anime |
kirA_-_Sep 10, 3:05 PM
Ri-KoRin said: Do you actually like lame duck shounen main characters? As in MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength. Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times. They remain less cool even after becoming stronger or in some cases, surpassing their senpai/mentors. Simple proof that people aren't as invested in these lame ducks is that 90% of them have way fewer favorites than their senpai/mentors. Some examples: Asta vs Yami (Black Clover) Eren vs Levi (Attack on Titan) Yuuji vs Gojo (Jujutsu Kaisen) Karma vs Koro-sensei (Assassination Classroom) Shinra vs Benimaru (Fire Force) Osamu vs Jin (World Trigger) Is this another bad battle shounen trope or is this a clever bait and switch from the author? No, a character like you described would suck Only problem is, none of those you mentoined (at least of the anime i've seen) are in any way like that Being less poplar than their senpai doesn't make them bad characters By that logic, any obscure and niche show would be considered bad because it is less popular than mainstream stuff, but that is very obviously untrue |
| You're examples don't match with the explanation you gave |
| There are several reasons why I dislike weak main characters in shounen anime The growth of weak characters feel dragged out, making the story slow and less engaging. I might get frustrated waiting for the protagonist to become strong enough to face significant challenges... This why I don't like my hero academica and demon slayer much I watch shounen anime for the thrill of powerful battles and strong characters. A weak protagonist undermine this power fantasy, making the series less interesting I've been watching anime for more than 25 years so I yawn at Repetitive Tropes of Weak characters often relying on common phrases like shouting “Nakama” or other motivational phrases.. This feel clichéd, reducing my hype and enjoyment. the journey of the MC from weak to strong feel unrealistic and forced. the character’s growth doesn’t feel natural or believable.. In shounen genre where power levels are often compared, a weak protagonist seem less impressive compared to other characters in the series or in other shounen anime. It's difficult for me to connect with and enjoy weak main characters who often have way bigger mouth than strength and power. |
| This post makes no sense. How can you call the better characters worse because "their characters are dragged out"??????????? Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything? Power-Fantasy shows are called trashy entertainment for a reason. Grow up. |
Reply to phantom346
This post makes no sense. How can you call the better characters worse because "their characters are dragged out"???????????
Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything?
Power-Fantasy shows are called trashy entertainment for a reason. Grow up.
Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything?
Power-Fantasy shows are called trashy entertainment for a reason. Grow up.
phantom346 said: Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything? Yes that's exactly what I want, I've seen this weak ass MC troupe for 25 years.. I'm bored.. Also One punch man is Seinen... better example will be gintoki sakata from Gintama |
| Imagine calling them lame while having total "arthouse" snooze like sonnny boy or heike monogatari in your favorites |
| :v |
Ri-KoRin said: Shounen MCs aren't actually weaker, they just have low emotional quotient and inconsistent character growth, only getting stronger when they get angry. That's because the whole point of a protagonist is to act as a portal for the audience to empathize with, and shounen anime are invariably aimed at little kids or kids entering puberty, whose entire tension at that age is the struggle of independence with no power against adults.As in MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength. Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times. That's why shounen anime can't be taken seriously except when the value system is stuck to that of a child. Even in venerated shounen like Hunter x Hunter (Gon vs Killua), Killua's growth is much more consistent and deliberate whereas Gon just powers up; or in the case of Naruto vs Sasuke, etc. It's the protagonist's job to get the audience riled up and mad at the antagonist, and it's the sidekick's job to get the actual task done. P.S. I realized you're comparing the protagonist to the teacher. Why would you think a student would be stronger than a teacher? That makes no sense. The fact that they are even mentioned in the same sentence is a magic trick of plot armor in the first place. Every shounen makes the latest "class" (the school year of the protagonist) magically stronger than every other class before it, such that the protagonist could size up with adults with presumably decades of more experience. That's 100% bullshit to begin with. Notice how there are practically no strong characters in every shounen besides the teacher and the class of the protagonist, whether we're talking about Hunter x Hunter, Naruto, JJK, Demon Slayer, World Trigger, Kaiju no 8, Chainsaw Man, etc. Why? The world persisted in the state of chaos for at least decades before the protagonists of all these anime came of age. Yet, the world somehow expects the youngest class to handle all the major threats? |
katsucatsSep 11, 2:59 PM
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| how is osamu a lame duck, he knows how to apply best tactics in most scenarios, stuff that even azuma can't, if we're talking about best captains, then it's kazama but in the end he's just a sniper. Unlike all battle shounen WT is an actual good and logical military anime. Putting osamu in this list is a demerit to everything WT stands for, when was a time when tamakoma 2 won a battle because of nakama power? and if jin is so strong how come he couldn't beat hyuse 1vs1 or did he need a black trigger in order to beat him? and if so, then how come he's so weak without a black trigger? now you see the error of your ways? |
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| "Lame Duck Shounen MC" How about Dame Luck Mhounen SC? |
| Just say that generic isekai characters are your favorite type of MC. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Reply to Catalano
how is osamu a lame duck, he knows how to apply best tactics in most scenarios, stuff that even azuma can't, if we're talking about best captains, then it's kazama but in the end he's just a sniper. Unlike all battle shounen WT is an actual good and logical military anime. Putting osamu in this list is a demerit to everything WT stands for, when was a time when tamakoma 2 won a battle because of nakama power? and if jin is so strong how come he couldn't beat hyuse 1vs1 or did he need a black trigger in order to beat him? and if so, then how come he's so weak without a black trigger? now you see the error of your ways?
| @Catalano Well the list is basically all the MC with favorites ratioed by their senpai and mentors. He is one of them, so go ask the fandom, not me. |
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Reply to phantom346
This post makes no sense. How can you call the better characters worse because "their characters are dragged out"???????????
Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything?
Power-Fantasy shows are called trashy entertainment for a reason. Grow up.
Are you one of those people that thinks all MCs need to be OP and one shot everything?
Power-Fantasy shows are called trashy entertainment for a reason. Grow up.
| @phantom346 Nah, I am just shitting on angsty battle shounen and somehow noticed a phenomenon where many battle shounen MC's favorites were ratioed by their mentor/senpai. Every MC I listed has fewer favorites or did worse in popularity polls than their mentors/senpai. Strange right? As if OP characters who one-shot everything are actually popular...hmm One Punch Man and The Eminence in Shadow are parodies of angsty shounen and power fantasy tropes, and yet they are the least childish show. |
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Imagine calling them lame while having total "arthouse" snooze like sonnny boy or heike monogatari in your favorites
| @MichaelJackson I will take that as a compliment |
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Reply to LostSpectre
Just say that generic isekai characters are your favorite type of MC.
| @LostSpectre In all honesty, generic isekai characters make me less angry than Battle Shounen MC. Because at least in Isekai, the adults aren't stupid enough to enlist literal middle schoolers to fight terrorists, demons, or alien invasions. |
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Ri-KoRin said:
As in MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength. Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times.
Shounen MCs aren't actually weaker, they just have low emotional quotient and inconsistent character growth, only getting stronger when they get angry. That's because the whole point of a protagonist is to act as a portal for the audience to empathize with, and shounen anime are invariably aimed at little kids or kids entering puberty, whose entire tension at that age is the struggle of independence with no power against adults.As in MC that are significantly weaker or even way below average in terms of strength. Their character growth is dragged out, not realistic, and involves them yelling "Nakama" or other shit a hundred times.
That's why shounen anime can't be taken seriously except when the value system is stuck to that of a child.
Even in venerated shounen like Hunter x Hunter (Gon vs Killua), Killua's growth is much more consistent and deliberate whereas Gon just powers up; or in the case of Naruto vs Sasuke, etc.
It's the protagonist's job to get the audience riled up and mad at the antagonist, and it's the sidekick's job to get the actual task done.
P.S. I realized you're comparing the protagonist to the teacher. Why would you think a student would be stronger than a teacher? That makes no sense. The fact that they are even mentioned in the same sentence is a magic trick of plot armor in the first place. Every shounen makes the latest "class" (the school year of the protagonist) magically stronger than every other class before it, such that the protagonist could size up with adults with presumably decades of more experience. That's 100% bullshit to begin with.
Notice how there are practically no strong characters in every shounen besides the teacher and the class of the protagonist, whether we're talking about Hunter x Hunter, Naruto, JJK, Demon Slayer, World Trigger, Kaiju no 8, Chainsaw Man, etc. Why? The world persisted in the state of chaos for at least decades before the protagonists of all these anime came of age. Yet, the world somehow expects the youngest class to handle all the major threats?
| @katsucats & @FanofAction Thanks! Great explanations and analysis on the shounen genre. I've come to realize that while I'm deeply invested in the worlds and stories these animes offer, my tolerance for this particular character trope is steadily decreasing. Kinda frustrating. |
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Ri-KoRin said: Simple proof that people aren't as invested in these lame ducks is that 90% of them have way fewer favorites than their senpai/mentors. 4 of your examples all have 10000+ favorites each, so it really doesn't matter if people aren't invested in them as in other characters because the proof shows they have a sizable fandom of their own. The other problem is that I wouldn't describe any of those characters by the description you gave. P.S. I would say Eren is more loved than Levi, that's pretty obvious if you go anywhere outside of MAL. |
CielordSep 11, 11:04 PM
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Cielord said: Ri-KoRin said: Simple proof that people aren't as invested in these lame ducks is that 90% of them have way fewer favorites than their senpai/mentors. 4 of your examples all have 10000+ favorites each, so it really doesn't matter if people aren't invested in them as in other characters because the proof shows they have a sizable fandom of their own. The other problem is that I wouldn't describe any of those characters by the description you gave. P.S. I would say Eren is more loved than Levi, that's pretty obvious if you go anywhere outside of MAL. Yes the description doesn't apply to all, but all of these MCs have less favorites than another male side character is kinda strange, right? PS. Eren actually ranked 10th in last year's popularity poll...ouch...And no. 1 is, well, Levi. Eren is losing in every single popularity poll ever since the manga was published (even in the Crunchyroll poll). No matter when and what language the poll was held in, he lost. |
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Ri-KoRin said: Cielord said: 4 of your examples all have 10000+ favorites each, so it really doesn't matter if people aren't invested in them as in other characters because the proof shows they have a sizable fandom of their own. The other problem is that I wouldn't describe any of those characters by the description you gave. P.S. I would say Eren is more loved than Levi, that's pretty obvious if you go anywhere outside of MAL. Yes the description doesn't apply to all, but all of these MCs have less favorites than another male side character is kinda strange, right? PS. Eren actually ranked 10th in last year's popularity poll...ouch...And no. 1 is, well, Levi. Eren is losing in every single popularity poll ever since the manga was published (even in the Crunchyroll poll). No matter when and what language the poll was held in, he lost. I'm questioning why it matters that other characters have more favorites than them when they have a significant number of favorites themselves. I don't know which popularity poll you're referring to, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. How many people participated in it? Was it a million? Two million? Or perhaps a significantly smaller number? |
| spiritual successor of lord rothchild. |
Cielord said: Ri-KoRin said: Yes the description doesn't apply to all, but all of these MCs have less favorites than another male side character is kinda strange, right? PS. Eren actually ranked 10th in last year's popularity poll...ouch...And no. 1 is, well, Levi. Eren is losing in every single popularity poll ever since the manga was published (even in the Crunchyroll poll). No matter when and what language the poll was held in, he lost. I'm questioning why it matters that other characters have more favorites than them when they have a significant number of favorites themselves. I don't know which popularity poll you're referring to, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. How many people participated in it? Was it a million? Two million? Or perhaps a significantly smaller number? Because the Main Character is supposed to be the face of the show and they should be the centre of attention. In other genres, sure, the MC sometimes loses to a pretty anime wifu in terms of popularity. But in battle shounen, where the majority of the screentime is dedicated on the MC's characters growth and development, and then it turns out their senpai/mentors become way more popular and get more attentions. It's almost as if people prefer strong, mature, and wise characters over weaker teenagers. These MCs that got sidelined, aka the lame ducks, is one reason why people don't take battle shounen seriously. lol you are doubting the polls, meanwhile claiming Eren is more popular without any statistical proof. Too lazy to even do a quick Google search or go to take a look Mal's character page huh? Levi and Erwin have consistently outperformed Eren in every single poll. https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/15y2urt/latest_popularity_poll_from_japan_with_translation/ https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Character_Popularity_Polls https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/198eddv/japan_aot_characters_newest_poll/ https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/quizzes/2024/1/7/attack-on-titan-poll-all-time-favorite-character?srsltid=AfmBOoq0iycBCRESFyAXjX1xfwEghIH-AfO8j7Aq093oZPkCkmhpkaWv |
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Cielord said:
I'm questioning why it matters that other characters have more favorites than them when they have a significant number of favorites themselves.
I don't know which popularity poll you're referring to, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. How many people participated in it? Was it a million? Two million? Or perhaps a significantly smaller number?
Ri-KoRin said:
Yes the description doesn't apply to all, but all of these MCs have less favorites than another male side character is kinda strange, right?
PS. Eren actually ranked 10th in last year's popularity poll...ouch...And no. 1 is, well, Levi. Eren is losing in every single popularity poll ever since the manga was published (even in the Crunchyroll poll). No matter when and what language the poll was held in, he lost.
Yes the description doesn't apply to all, but all of these MCs have less favorites than another male side character is kinda strange, right?
PS. Eren actually ranked 10th in last year's popularity poll...ouch...And no. 1 is, well, Levi. Eren is losing in every single popularity poll ever since the manga was published (even in the Crunchyroll poll). No matter when and what language the poll was held in, he lost.
I'm questioning why it matters that other characters have more favorites than them when they have a significant number of favorites themselves.
I don't know which popularity poll you're referring to, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. How many people participated in it? Was it a million? Two million? Or perhaps a significantly smaller number?
Because the Main Character is supposed to be the face of the show and they should be the centre of attention. In other genres, sure, the MC sometimes loses to a pretty anime wifu in terms of popularity. But in battle shounen, where the majority of the screentime is dedicated on the MC's characters growth and development, and then it turns out their senpai/mentors become way more popular and get more attentions. It's almost as if people prefer strong, mature, and wise characters over weaker teenagers. These MCs that got sidelined, aka the lame ducks, is one reason why people don't take battle shounen seriously.
lol you are doubting the polls, meanwhile claiming Eren is more popular without any statistical proof.
Too lazy to even do a quick Google search or go to take a look Mal's character page huh? Levi and Erwin have consistently outperformed Eren in every single poll.
https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/15y2urt/latest_popularity_poll_from_japan_with_translation/
https://attackontitan.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Character_Popularity_Polls
https://www.reddit.com/r/titanfolk/comments/198eddv/japan_aot_characters_newest_poll/
https://www.crunchyroll.com/news/quizzes/2024/1/7/attack-on-titan-poll-all-time-favorite-character?srsltid=AfmBOoq0iycBCRESFyAXjX1xfwEghIH-AfO8j7Aq093oZPkCkmhpkaWv
| @Ri-KoRin Did you start this thread to ask people about their personal preference or to prove a point? Ri-KoRin said: where the majority of the screentime is dedicated on the MC's characters growth Every series focuses on the main characters; that's why they are the main characters. The Big 3, Dragon Ball, Gintama, Demon Slayer, FMAB, Fairy Tail, Frieren, etc. All those shounen series MC have more favorites than the rest of the cast, so you also just cherry-picked characters to prove your point. You're literally complaining that shounen series MC and SC are loved by a lot of people. I asked you how many people participated in the poll, not to link me the poll. |
CielordSep 12, 8:49 AM
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Reply to Cielord
@Ri-KoRin
Did you start this thread to ask people about their personal preference or to prove a point?
Every series focuses on the main characters; that's why they are the main characters.
The Big 3, Dragon Ball, Gintama, Demon Slayer, FMAB, Fairy Tail, Frieren, etc. All those shounen series MC have more favorites than the rest of the cast, so you also just cherry-picked characters to prove your point.
You're literally complaining that shounen series MC and SC are loved by a lot of people.
I asked you how many people participated in the poll, not to link me the poll.
Did you start this thread to ask people about their personal preference or to prove a point?
Ri-KoRin said:
where the majority of the screentime is dedicated on the MC's characters growth
where the majority of the screentime is dedicated on the MC's characters growth
Every series focuses on the main characters; that's why they are the main characters.
The Big 3, Dragon Ball, Gintama, Demon Slayer, FMAB, Fairy Tail, Frieren, etc. All those shounen series MC have more favorites than the rest of the cast, so you also just cherry-picked characters to prove your point.
You're literally complaining that shounen series MC and SC are loved by a lot of people.
I asked you how many people participated in the poll, not to link me the poll.
| @Cielord I enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, especially with Battle Shounen fans. As I stated many times, my problem is that many battle shounen authors choose to have side (mentor/senpai) characters outshining and sidelining their MCs. That's it. (don't bring other shounen genres here, you are better than this. In Demon Slayer, the Hashira are literally dropping like flies (which is a good thing for the story and MC's development). The fact that Frieren has an OP mentor-like character as its MC, MC leading in terms of favorites by a large margin compared to her teenage students, and is the highest-rated anime literally proves my point. People like cool, strong, and mature MCs way more than teenage, weak, and immature MCs.) |
-rkr-Sep 12, 10:28 AM
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@Cielord I enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing, especially with Battle Shounen fans. As I stated many times, my problem is that many battle shounen authors choose to have side (mentor/senpai) characters outshining and sidelining their MCs. That's it.
(don't bring other shounen genres here, you are better than this. In Demon Slayer, the Hashira are literally dropping like flies (which is a good thing for the story and MC's development). The fact that Frieren has an OP mentor-like character as its MC, MC leading in terms of favorites by a large margin compared to her teenage students, and is the highest-rated anime literally proves my point. People like cool, strong, and mature MCs way more than teenage, weak, and immature MCs.)
(don't bring other shounen genres here, you are better than this. In Demon Slayer, the Hashira are literally dropping like flies (which is a good thing for the story and MC's development). The fact that Frieren has an OP mentor-like character as its MC, MC leading in terms of favorites by a large margin compared to her teenage students, and is the highest-rated anime literally proves my point. People like cool, strong, and mature MCs way more than teenage, weak, and immature MCs.)
| @Ri-KoRin Ri-KoRin said: I enjoy arguing for the sake of arguing That tells me a lot about you. Ri-KoRin said: my problem is that many battle shounen authors choose to have side (mentor/senpai) characters outshining and sidelining their MCs That's a subjective opinion; there really is no need to argue about something like that. Ri-KoRin said: (don't bring other shounen genres here, you are better than this. The fact that Frieren has an OP mentor-like character as its MC, MC leading in terms of favorites by a large margin compared to her teenage students, and is the highest-rated anime literally proves my point. People like cool, strong, and mature MCs way more than teenage, weak, and immature MCs.) >Focus only on Frieren and Demon Slayer out of the several examples I brought. For that matter, I do agree with you that Frieren being a mentor character (mainly because it's a unique approach) is definitely a focal point of why many people like it, but there are several reasons at play here. |
CielordSep 17, 3:32 AM
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