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Aug 11, 5:49 AM
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Or are you so oppose to A.I art that you're willing to let your dream project die out of principle?
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Aug 11, 5:52 AM
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If AI can make my dream anime look indistinguishable from, or even better than, real anime, then sure.
Aug 11, 5:53 AM
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"Would you use A.I to create your dream anime?"

Absolutely yes.



SerafosAug 11, 6:15 AM
Aug 11, 6:10 AM
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I'm currently studying Ai ,so yeah why not!
I need somebody who can love me at my worst
No, I'm not perfect, but I hope you see my worth
'Cause it's only you, nobody new, I put you first
And for you, girl, I swear I'll do the worst

If you stay forever, let me hold your hand
I can fill those places in your heart no else can
Let me show you love, oh, I don't pretend, yeah
I'll be right here, baby, you know I'll sink or swim
Aug 11, 6:12 AM
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A.I art is the equivalent of cutting out letters from a magazine and sticking them together to make new words. The "dream anime" of anybody whose imagination can be adequately represented by such a medium will be trash. Would you read the dream novel of a dude who wrote it by shaking a box with different sentences in it and then sticking the ones that were "good enough" together into a book? If I want soulless, corporate swill disguised as art I'll just read one of those mass produced battle shonen or isekai.
Aug 11, 6:12 AM
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I guess if it can literally create something so good that I can't even tell it was made by AI I would at least give it a shot.

One more realistic thing I was thinking about is, maybe AI could be used to enhance anime. E.g.
-Keep the same shots but sharpen the lines and possibly add some detail (for example for old cell shaded anime).
-Generate additional scenes for your favourite sequences.
-Reverse censorship and or make ecchi anime more lewd.
etc.
Aug 11, 6:18 AM
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AI will be superior to human brain in many if not all aspects, and anime is no exclusion. It's a question of time and technology.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Aug 11, 6:27 AM
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I would use anything to create my dream show.
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Aug 11, 6:50 AM
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I don't see why not. Principles and morality can go to hell, I couldn't care less as long as I'm able to create my dream anime.
Aug 11, 7:08 AM

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How good is the AI in question? If it could replicate exactly what's in my head 1:1, I'd do it without a second thought.
Aug 11, 7:15 AM
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Since the IA recieves the orders from you on how to create ur artistic artwork, absolutely yes
Aug 11, 7:16 AM

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Would you use A.I to create your dream anime?

why not!


Aug 11, 7:19 AM

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Lol. You would need brain implants and haptic interfaces to transfer your thoughts 1'1 to an AI. Just imagine attempting to explain to someone with words the exact process to tie their shoelaces over a phone call.
Aug 11, 7:31 AM

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Only as a personal project entirely for my own viewing. Until AI is capable of creating things without pulling from other sources, I wouldn't showing this off , claiming it as my own work, and profiting off it like others have. And yes, I realize I could do my own script and I have no idea how much hands on work I'd have to do as far as the actual animation process goes, but still.

Actually, I wouldn't be showing it off regardless of any of that, because I'm not really interested in giving the middle finger to actual artists and animators when all I did was give something a prompt and had it do the heavy stuff.
FanofActionAug 11, 7:39 AM
Aug 11, 7:36 AM

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I would not, lol.
I would also not do brain implants.
Aug 11, 7:43 AM

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If that's the only way to get a good Akiba's Trip anime and have my waifu in it, then so be it.
Aug 11, 7:48 AM

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Nah I'll just make a lot of money from selling crack and start executive producing.
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Aug 11, 7:53 AM

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Yes I would.. Most certainly to annoy the anti Ai brigade of anime fans
Aug 11, 7:57 AM

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Spunkert said:
Or are you so oppose to A.I art that you're willing to let your dream project die out of principle?

FUCK NO!! AI can't even do simple photo editing without it looking like ass, why the heck would i let it draw a multi season anime?? What dream?? This is the stuff of nightmares
Aug 11, 7:59 AM

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Yes I would.. Most certainly to annoy the anti Ai brigade of anime fans
@RainyEvenings You confuse being anti AI with being anti AI taking jobs from actual artists...Like everyone else seems to.
Aug 11, 8:00 AM

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A.I art is the equivalent of cutting out letters from a magazine and sticking them together to make new words. The "dream anime" of anybody whose imagination can be adequately represented by such a medium will be trash. Would you read the dream novel of a dude who wrote it by shaking a box with different sentences in it and then sticking the ones that were "good enough" together into a book? If I want soulless, corporate swill disguised as art I'll just read one of those mass produced battle shonen or isekai.
@desusama Your initial point is very wise... then you decided to flush it all down the toilet by equating battle shounen and isekai made by actual people to AI garbage
Aug 11, 8:04 AM

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@RainyEvenings You confuse being anti AI with being anti AI taking jobs from actual artists...Like everyone else seems to.
@FanofAction taking jobs? So did conveyor belts..
Also I'm thankful for Ai giving me what I want for free and artists not being able to rip me off..
It goes both ways
Aug 11, 8:10 AM

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@desusama Your initial point is very wise... then you decided to flush it all down the toilet by equating battle shounen and isekai made by actual people to AI garbage
@DigiCat
First of all "if I want x I would rather do y" implies that the thing you are comparing is worse than the negative scenario you are presenting.

Secondly: https://myanimelist.net/anime/37823/Conception

Give that a watch and come back and tell me a work has inherent value just because a person made it. "A.I bad" does not prevent generic trash anime from being generic trash anime.
Aug 11, 8:13 AM

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A.I art is the equivalent of cutting out letters from a magazine and sticking them together to make new words. The "dream anime" of anybody whose imagination can be adequately represented by such a medium will be trash. Would you read the dream novel of a dude who wrote it by shaking a box with different sentences in it and then sticking the ones that were "good enough" together into a book? If I want soulless, corporate swill disguised as art I'll just read one of those mass produced battle shonen or isekai.
@desusama

It really shows that you know too little about actual image generation with your own PC, it's not like using that one popular service where you click one button on site and then wait for a miracle - needed image from first attempt. You know, you may actually fully control composition and poses in the same way all these artists do themselves, or you maybe think that each anime or cartoon made completely from a scratch? Actual artist could and should use AI image generation since he or she can easily edit a complex generated image which was made for few seconds. Artist could create a basic sketch and in image-to-image mode make finished art. Technically it's possible to made the whole manga page with separators at one time. And by the way there are a lot of authors of VNs or web manga which has very poor drawing skills but still can draw something basic, these people may use image generation too for a drastic quality boost in image-to-image mode by converting their won images to something more quality. Same goes for professionals, they could design their own characters and draw them from all angles and then train a special mini-model LORA which will generate any images in chosen pretrained style. I bet that characters from Genshin Impact and other games from that one game developer were actually generated by AI since it was a thing for corpos long before official reveal of technology.

I understand your sentiment 'Meh, AI generated conveyor' but you said it yourself that there are already mass production of generic battle shonen or isekai. But they are not so bad in terms of art, but in terms of basic concepts or plot and characters.
Aug 11, 8:15 AM

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Anime is too complex, I would prefer to make a VN with AI generated images, nobody will see much of difference then. Since I can't draw at all the AI image generation is a greatest thing to me. Actual artists which are stubborn and hate blindly AI technologies will lose eventually to artists which use AI in their work.
LawgunAug 11, 8:18 AM
Aug 11, 8:16 AM

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No, I'd use it for comedic and shitpost purposes.

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Aug 11, 8:21 AM

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I’d try pencil with copic markers on post-it’s first
Cold-hearted orb that rules the night

Removes the colours from our sight

Red is grey and yellow white

But we decide which is right

And which is an illusion.
Aug 11, 8:39 AM

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@desusama

It really shows that you know too little about actual image generation with your own PC, it's not like using that one popular service where you click one button on site and then wait for a miracle - needed image from first attempt. You know, you may actually fully control composition and poses in the same way all these artists do themselves, or you maybe think that each anime or cartoon made completely from a scratch? Actual artist could and should use AI image generation since he or she can easily edit a complex generated image which was made for few seconds. Artist could create a basic sketch and in image-to-image mode make finished art. Technically it's possible to made the whole manga page with separators at one time. And by the way there are a lot of authors of VNs or web manga which has very poor drawing skills but still can draw something basic, these people may use image generation too for a drastic quality boost in image-to-image mode by converting their won images to something more quality. Same goes for professionals, they could design their own characters and draw them from all angles and then train a special mini-model LORA which will generate any images in chosen pretrained style. I bet that characters from Genshin Impact and other games from that one game developer were actually generated by AI since it was a thing for corpos long before official reveal of technology.

I understand your sentiment 'Meh, AI generated conveyor' but you said it yourself that there are already mass production of generic battle shonen or isekai. But they are not so bad in terms of art, but in terms of basic concepts or plot and characters.
@Lawgun Why do AI supporters always sound like company executives trying to sell a product?
I don't like AI as a tool because it leads to stagnation.
Yes you can train the AI to create works in the style of Akira Toriyama for example, but what about your style? What about the unique art you could have produced? Demon Slayer and Bleach are both about sword guys killing demons but are unique expressions of their authors.
Can you picture the One Piece artstyle? Before Oda created it, did it exist anywhere? AI can copy it but it cannot create a completely new style from nothing. At best it'll take multiple styles and blend them together into a slurry pretending to be new art.


You bring up artists that can't draw: ONE the author of One Punch Man and Mob Psycho 100 created stories so good that it didn't matter, another example is the manga Liar Game.
Even the so called "artists that can draw" continue honing their craft and improving, Yusuke Murata's art in Eyeshield 21 is excellent but nowhere close to what he's doing today. Meanwhile if you train an AI on the current best artist's work with no new input that's it, there will be no improvement unless you give it new data.
AI art is the strongest manifestation of consumerism, "I want my product and I want it now", no effort, no soul, no focus, no craftsmanship. Just pop it in the microwave and enjoy.

The existence of bad products made by humans does not excuse the inherent soullessness of AI art just the same way the inherent soullessness of AI art does not excuse bad art.
Aug 11, 8:41 AM

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@FanofAction taking jobs? So did conveyor belts..
Also I'm thankful for Ai giving me what I want for free and artists not being able to rip me off..
It goes both ways
@RainyEvenings Yeah...Well, as much as I'd sound like a hypocritical asshole for this, those two things aren't comparable. Being an artist takes years of hard work and dedication. Though I agree art can be stupidly over priced as my recent trip to a glass museum has reconfirmed for me.

Buuuut at the same time, hearing about not wanting to be ripped off from anyone in a community where so many never actually pay for anything they consume is hilarious.
Aug 11, 8:42 AM
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A No Game No Life season 2 made by AI wouldn't be worth watching. At best, it'd be soulless, at worst it would be a complete mess with inconsistent and inaccurate character designs, where you can't even properly tell what's happening on-screen.

Beyond that, I wouldn't wanna be sued by Kadokawa, which is probably a part of the reason why there hasn't been any real effort from fan animators to make their own second season after all this time.
Aug 11, 8:43 AM

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@DigiCat
First of all "if I want x I would rather do y" implies that the thing you are comparing is worse than the negative scenario you are presenting.

Secondly: https://myanimelist.net/anime/37823/Conception

Give that a watch and come back and tell me a work has inherent value just because a person made it. "A.I bad" does not prevent generic trash anime from being generic trash anime.
@desusama Oh wow, you linked me a bad anime made by humans proving that humans aren't perfect and not everything they make is going to be gold, who knew... yeah no shit sherlock!

Now i'll give you another mindblowing fact, bad products being made is not exclusive to isekai and battle shounen, you'd think it's just common sense to figure out that in a medium with 10s of thousands of products not every single one of them is gonna be top notch
Aug 11, 8:46 AM

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Well since Sailor V already exists as a manga, I would just use ai to make an anime adaptation of it.

Aug 11, 8:50 AM

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@desusama Oh wow, you linked me a bad anime made by humans proving that humans aren't perfect and not everything they make is going to be gold, who knew... yeah no shit sherlock!

Now i'll give you another mindblowing fact, bad products being made is not exclusive to isekai and battle shounen, you'd think it's just common sense to figure out that in a medium with 10s of thousands of products not every single one of them is gonna be top notch
@DigiCat Woah! You mean there are bad anime in other genres? I had no idea, you've saved me Captain Obvious. Everyone knows posts made on anime forums are absolute statements, I should have been more considerate of the feelings of battle shonen and isekai and not used them as the example of mass produced mediocre anime even though they make up the overwhelming number of those.

I shall repent by committing sudoku with a Blu-Ray copy of the masterpiece "I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine"
Aug 11, 8:54 AM

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@DigiCat Woah! You mean there are bad anime in other genres? I had no idea, you've saved me Captain Obvious. Everyone knows posts made on anime forums are absolute statements, I should have been more considerate of the feelings of battle shonen and isekai and not used them as the example of mass produced mediocre anime even though they make up the overwhelming number of those.

I shall repent by committing sudoku with a Blu-Ray copy of the masterpiece "I Reincarnated Into a Vending Machine"
@desusama Aww how sweet, attempting to show intelectual superiority just to go back to one's own biases :)
Aug 11, 9:01 AM

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@desusama Aww how sweet, attempting to show intelectual superiority just to go back to one's own biases :)
@DigiCat Nah man. I know I'm a dumbass. I'm just wondering what you're going on about? Are you upset that not all anime are good? Are you upset that isekai and battle shonen are the most popular types of anime now? Are you not getting enough fiber? What's got your shorts in such a twist? It's okay, this is a safe space. Also you spelled intellectual wrong.
Aug 11, 9:07 AM

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@DigiCat Nah man. I know I'm a dumbass. I'm just wondering what you're going on about? Are you upset that not all anime are good? Are you upset that isekai and battle shonen are the most popular types of anime now? Are you not getting enough fiber? What's got your shorts in such a twist? It's okay, this is a safe space. Also you spelled intellectual wrong.
@desusama What am i suppost to be upset about? All i said was you made a very good statement and then ended it with something that made it sound super dumb

You on the other hand seem a lil fixated on needing to prove yourself, so what are you going on about? Like you said, it's ok, this is a safe space
Aug 11, 9:17 AM

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Me trying out brushes on free drawing apps

AI: O_o what the fuck is this??!!??
Aug 11, 9:20 AM

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@desusama What am i suppost to be upset about? All i said was you made a very good statement and then ended it with something that made it sound super dumb

You on the other hand seem a lil fixated on needing to prove yourself, so what are you going on about? Like you said, it's ok, this is a safe space
@DigiCat You want me to tell you why you're upset? And you can't remember what else you said beyond your first reply?

Damn. This is more serious than I thought, I think you may need to see a medical professional. Sorry for stressing your brain, I didn't know you had a condition. Please get some rest, stay hydrated and see a doctor as soon as possible. Get well soon.
Aug 11, 9:52 AM
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I prefer working about it myself than letting AI do the work , not only since I dislike using AI for "art" but also since I work since I am 3 to make my own story reality and I prefer to finish it myself
Aug 11, 10:36 AM

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It doesn't need to create my dream anime, but I'll be happy as long as it can at least provide a large amount of serviceable anime.

That's my short-term hope, though it will no doubt evolve in several decades with the ability to create things at a scale and quality which is cost prohibitive for any studio to produce with human labor.
Aug 11, 10:40 AM
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No, because I'm not sure it would be eligible for the database.
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@DigiCat You want me to tell you why you're upset? And you can't remember what else you said beyond your first reply?

Damn. This is more serious than I thought, I think you may need to see a medical professional. Sorry for stressing your brain, I didn't know you had a condition. Please get some rest, stay hydrated and see a doctor as soon as possible. Get well soon.
@desusama I didn't mention it as you don't seem to like when i state the obvious, but... you do know what a rethorical question is, right?

I rermember very well what my next replies where, and those were in response to your replies, it takes 2 you know

And LMAO, i've seen a lot of creative ways to get out of a conversation when one runs out of come backs, but telling the person they're talking too to seek medical help, i gotta say that's quite impressive, you've beaten my imagination
Aug 11, 10:45 AM

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Or you can be a talented person with a talented team and do everything like It's always been done.
Aug 11, 10:46 AM

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Anime is too complex, I would prefer to make a VN with AI generated images, nobody will see much of difference then. Since I can't draw at all the AI image generation is a greatest thing to me. Actual artists which are stubborn and hate blindly AI technologies will lose eventually to artists which use AI in their work.
@Lawgun I think this is perhaps true in the short term, but in the medium to long term, I would imagine you could get fairly complex animation out of an AI. At first, it'll be just short snippets of animation, because of token limitations, but eventually I could foresee a sufficiently sophisticated model be able to generate episodes with full length runtimes.
Aug 11, 10:56 AM

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No, I wouldn't and I can't imagine watching an anime made by AI. Why would I waste my time with something that was apparently so uninspiring that no one could actually be bothered to even try to make?

AI doesn't create; it just endlessly recycles.
Aug 11, 11:25 AM
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Undeniable Yes.

And it's pretty obvious what is the anime of my dreams with my Yaoi Shota incest username

Married father goes straight to gay with his 2 sons one a teen and the other a shota, a lot of cum in the mouth and in the ass, all what they do is sucking and fucking everytime they can when mommy is away.
Aug 11, 11:31 AM

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i would make uncensored hentai with ai
Aug 11, 11:50 AM

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Nope, I absolutely despise AI. It looks too polished and soulless, what makes anime an anime is creatives flaws and all who know how to draw and aren't afraid to try something new. My dream anime would never be able to come from an AI.
Aug 11, 11:54 AM

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Depends on the attainability of the model, because I could only imagine it being a subscription service, given the already commercialised route most AI sites have taken with their largely unusable free plans.


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I'd make it with my own hands. It's different.

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