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Dec 3, 2011 7:44 PM

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So the reason purgatory is a school is that the place is a place for young souls. Thats why there was no adults with regrets when they died O.o.
Dec 4, 2011 4:34 PM

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game8910 said:
Otonashi confirmed as the final boss, all is going according to keikaru now

Save the SSS by making them all disappear while pulling the strings from the inside, with Kanade as his helper.

Also LOL FAIL @ him for dying a minute before being rescued

i knew i wasnt the only one thinking about that anime, lol
GBcrazy said:
Shit got real

your too late.

Dec 5, 2011 7:14 AM

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ZetaZeta said:
Considering Key's addiction to putting characters into comas and their meta-theme of dreams that exists in everything they do, I'm going to just make an educated guess that everyone is alive and in a sort of dream state.

Actually, I've been pondering before this episode, that part of the setup could be a shell game to begin with. That perhaps all of the 'major characters', aren't really individuals, but segments of Otonoshi's own personality or self. That would in theory mean that this entire story, really isn't about the other characters at all, but about Otonoshi working through his own issues. Take that for what you will though, but I still think a potential dream like scenario exists here.

Although when Otonoshi wakes up on the train, part of me wonders if the main action of the series was all a dream. Kind of like a recent doctor who episode where they can't tell which reality is real.

I also agree with Fatentity. Everyone who is upset it took 7 days is assuming the locality of damage. That there are no other blockages enroute to finding the train, that there is no other damage above ground or underground that need taken care of first. It made me think back to the recent Earthquake/Tsunamie/Nuclear Reactor Scram at Fukushima's power plant. I mean there could be a lot more going on that Otonoshi would have no clue about from his perspective, you just never know.

I know, this was an emotional episode, and while I didn't cry, I probably would have if it had continued just a bit further before Kanade wakes up. Still, I was very moved just the same. I think I'm going to rewatch this one before continuing because I think there's something in Kanade's conversation with Otonoshi that I just don't quite get. It's a beautiful thing though, for sure.

That aside though, part of me also wondered if Kanade's little game all along was somehow to use Otonoshi in this way, even the supposed way she dutifully 'follows' his orders feels a bit too hard to believe. I've never quite been able to shake that. However, it may feel like a reset, but I'm expecting a bit more before this next four episodes concludes.

viral_hun said:
Also, I think Otonashi is the god of this world too. God made the world in 6 days, and rested in the seventh. Otonashi took care of the injured for 6 days, then rested on the 7th and died.

You know this thought occurred to me, and it occurred to me, that Yuri may already know this or suspect it at least. The hinting of it by her saying it while we see Otonashi on screen, could be a hint. The telling of the Biblical 'Christ' from a literary standpoint is a God who takes upon himself the flesh of man, walks among them, to try and help heal and draw them back to himself in a way. The analogy can't be stretched too far here, as some of the characters may simply lack enough depth due to screen time. (That's my theory anyways).

And wow!
tEnSh1 said:
If they digged from above ...Otonashi wouldnt die .. ! :D

I'm also for this idea :

""God made the world in 6 days, and rested in the seventh. Otonashi took care of the injured for 6 days, then rested on the 7th and died.""

This explains why Maeda choose the rescue team to come in the 7th day !

I totally didn't think about the coincidence in the number of days chosen. What a great catch! It would lend to my theory that Otonoshi is key to this realm they are now in some how. That perhaps it's all about him to begin with. It does make you wonder though. But now, Otonashi has basically become 'Judas', agreeing to betray his friends in a way, 'for their own good'. It will be interesting to see how this turn of events develops.

Bah I just had to watch that preview link didn't I? I was just starting to like Yui too. Gah, oh well, not much time left I suppose.
Dec 22, 2011 11:04 PM

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that was a really sad episode to be honest.
... why am i still crying?
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Dec 31, 2011 3:22 PM

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jesus christ this episode was quite upsetting. x.x
i don't want everyone to be obliterated!! gahhh.
things seem like they might just get more tragic from here on out.
Jan 1, 2012 12:38 PM

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So, we see how Otonashi actually died. Very tragic.
Jan 24, 2012 5:34 PM

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Such a sad episode!

It's weird that Otanashi and Angel are working together to get everyone to heaven, I never thought it'd work out that way. Now Otanashi's only regret is having Yuri retain those memories, I wonder how he'll pull that off.

So I guess Angel is kinda a double-sided person: she's there so people can rebel against her and follow their own beliefs, and she's also there to rise people to heaven for realizing what a great life they actually had.

The world they live in is also for them to live the "lives they never had". Which is kinda cool.
Feb 11, 2012 9:46 PM

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What a noble thing to do. Sadly he had a dream and died moments before being saved.

Love Kanade, still this show leaves me confused, since it's like being on an emotional rollercoaster, I get happy, sad, laugh, cry. Truly one of the few animes that have marked my life.
Feb 17, 2012 1:24 AM

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Wow, when Otonashi died just as the rescue team showed up made me a little teary... It was pretty sad ;-;

I wonder what really happens when they get "obliterated" because I would hate to leave the friends you have met in that world behind. .~.
Feb 28, 2012 12:14 PM

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Had me me in tears.
It's rare when I cry over an anime episode.
I started tearing up when he signed the card, because he'd given up hope he'd be rescued and just wanted to be of use one more time. Cried even harder that just a few seconds after he dies, they get saved. Everybody there better be fucking grateful. >:I
Wow, Otanashi has just become my all time favorite character because of that episode.
Apr 30, 2012 12:51 AM

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He really did turn a new leaf before he died, too bad he didn't live long enough to see it through. And even though he died, he left giving meaning to the life of others who survived.

So the school is really purgatory after all? How can being model students make you happy anyway or live the dreams you wanted in your past life?
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May 29, 2012 2:31 PM

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I'm so glad Kanade is fine. Also wow, Otonashi was amazing helping all those people in the train crash, it's not fair he didn't get to live. What will happen next?

Jun 1, 2012 9:45 AM

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...I cried.

It's so freaking unfair that he died right as the rescue team came. After everything.

(My eyes feel kind of sore...)
Jun 25, 2012 6:18 PM

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McRib said:
shit got real

'Nuff said.

But seriously, this episode improved the show a lot in my opinion. Huge characterization for Otonashi and big explanation about the situation. I didn't think it was too sad, but rather bittersweet and profound.
Jul 21, 2012 9:13 PM

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Oh god. I told myself I wouldn't cry, but Otonashi's past was just too cruel. It had such an effect on me because he was already a likable character I grew to care about.

I just lost it when he started circling organs. Fuck. And then the rescue team coming just as he died, after he did so much to help the others... it's just so, so unfair.

This show might have the best cast of characters out of any anime I've ever seen.
Jul 22, 2012 10:57 AM

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ShibuyaRiver said:
If there is one thing this episode has taught me, is that Otonashi is turning into the Jack of Angel Beats.

Good times...

Anyway yeah this episode was really good, although I kind of already assumed everything that was "revealed". That Tenshi was good all along, that school was purgatory and that being "obliterated" was passing on once you dealt with your regret.

It was nice that Otonashi got an "extension" and the scene where they all filled out the organ donation cards was very memorable. So yeah... the question is where do they go from here? They've dealt with the "villain(s)" and will seemingly deal with their regrets.
Aug 29, 2012 2:03 PM

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Awesome episode. 5/5

Sep 22, 2012 12:48 PM

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i just realized coul otonashi somehow hve died before kinade and she had a heart donor and got otonashis heart????????
Sep 22, 2012 9:44 PM

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Otonashi really is amazing <3
Oct 4, 2012 12:35 AM

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torrentsven said:
TakuyaDreikorg said:
How did you do to watch it ALREADY? xD

can this question please stop to pop up in every fucking anime sub forum on every episode discussion ffs god damn mother of god please just (=)5?)PÅ/PR(&8
Was that really necessary? Some people don't even know you can get the unsubbed version before the subbed version. It sounds stupid but it's not something to get angry over.
If only I had been here two years ago.

Anyway, about the episode, Kanade is cuter than she was in the beginning. If she got there the same way as everyone else, I wonder what her problems were in life.
Oct 19, 2012 3:07 PM

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7 days to excavate a collapsed subway system in the middle of Japan... Just throwing this out their but that isn't very record breaking. Blows that they came right as he died, bleh what a crappy way to go. Also I wonder who Kanade really is, if she is a human I'm guessing her lingering regret is something like making sure everyone else finds peace... I guess for eternity, but honestly that sucks.
Nov 30, 2012 7:11 PM

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Ehh good episode i guess.
Nov 30, 2012 7:13 PM

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Shinichi- said:
belatkuro said:
ShibuyaRiver said:
Oosran said:
renji59 said:
Technosound said:
garfield15 said:
Oh boy. Yui is definitely up first.
Oh dear, fuck this, my fav char up first...
Oh dear,fuck this, why her O_o I hate her.
Oh my, that's a bit harsh isn't it?

Nope, I hate her fucking guts myself.
At first she was ok, but later she was getting pretty annoying. Glad she's up first.

Glad she's up. Saw a spoiler so i will be a bit happy in the next episode.
Dec 7, 2012 5:34 PM

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poor guy Otonashi 7 DAYS and no rescue :((( ! But this anime getting more and more beautiful/epic!
Dec 31, 2012 7:43 PM

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Oh man this episode was pretty emotional, I love otonashi's resolve and his leadership in tough situations And also everyone's last actions of donating ;(
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Jan 4, 2013 6:48 AM

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Otonashi's background story had me in tears at the end. Overall, great episode.

"Only the dead have seen the end of war".
Jan 4, 2013 9:30 PM

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Well, never cried watching anime before. Otonashi surely is a beautiful person... I felt so sorry for him, and his imouto.
Jan 4, 2013 10:37 PM

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This show has had me going back and forth as to how much I liked it, but it's got a real strong balance of light action and then heavy, serious drama. This episode fit into the latter and it was really well done. All told the best episode I think I have watched thus far in the show.
Jan 18, 2013 11:11 AM

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Dammit! I KNEW IT! I CALLED IT! They should've let Hinata catch that ball!! I knew that in the end, finding peace and disappearing would be the greater goal. Not fighting Tenshi. I mean look at her! she's just too moe to be an enemy. And besides, Yuri's superficial goal (not her subconscious goal to protect others) was to find god when, in reality, mankind should never have to see god in person to find the beauty and reason to life as it is...

Aw Jeez! this show makes me so soft XD
Jan 19, 2013 6:18 PM

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Oh wow I actually shed a tear or two watching this episode when Otonashi inspired everyone to fill in their ID Cards with the donating of their body parts and then he died when the rescue team arrived :'(
Very good episode. One of my favourites to date
Feb 17, 2013 8:44 PM

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This was the first episode that made me teary :<
Mar 27, 2013 2:53 AM

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Why didn't the rescue team arrived sooner... Poor Otonashi... T_T
Apr 7, 2013 12:37 AM

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TomoyoSakagami89 said:
Too much Otonashi in one episode.
Yea heaven forbid the main character is actually featured as the main character. ¬_¬

How awkward would it have been if the guy who tried to run off with the water died and ended up with the rest of them? Because it's pretty much his fault that Otonashi didn't make it in time.
May 4, 2013 11:42 AM

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No TK...

More sadness. Angel and Otonashi team up. Afterwards Otonashi will probably have to disappear as well. Yuri will be the last one to go I think, but I don't want any of them to disappear...the fun will end.
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Jun 5, 2013 12:32 PM

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This episode made my eyes teary. First i thought he die in the train accident. His heroic actions saved a lot of lives. And the part when he was signing that donor card i didn't expect him to die a moment later.
Finally Kanade a.k.a Angel is back in business. Cant wait to see what's going to happen in the next episode.

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Jun 16, 2013 4:45 PM

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Finally an episode in which I can see why this series is so popular! Don't get me wrong I didn't dislike the previous episodes, but this one is the first one I thought was really awesome. It is also the first one that got an emotion out of me to be honest. Otonashis backstory was really sad and beautifully told.
Jul 2, 2013 9:57 PM

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good flashback
Jul 2, 2013 10:03 PM

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Thought I could relate with the flashback quite abit.
Jul 6, 2013 8:45 PM

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wow, otonashi really a good person.
i lack on english but, i want to speak!
Jul 6, 2013 8:46 PM

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took way to long for the rescue. Guess that train wasint on a constant schedual.
Jul 16, 2013 12:42 PM

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beautiful episode...
dacawizards said:
Finally an episode in which I can see why this series is so popular! Don't get me wrong I didn't dislike the previous episodes, but this one is the first one I thought was really awesome. It is also the first one that got an emotion out of me to be honest. Otonashis backstory was really sad and beautifully told.

All that ^^^^ Otonashi's story was heartbreaking. He died like a hero afterall...
Jul 17, 2013 9:29 AM

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So darn cheesy episode (and kinda dumb) but i still loved it.
Jul 30, 2013 3:34 PM

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Another well done episode. Not the best, but very good.
Aug 3, 2013 12:09 AM

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I found this ep to be the best so far in the series. It shows what kind of character Otonashi really is. Sad he died just before the rescue team came. AB looks like it's going to follow a more structured plot now. Rating just went up. 8.3/10.
Aug 3, 2013 12:18 AM

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So beautiful ;-;
Aug 22, 2013 11:22 PM

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"That girl..." - Otonashi. Are you fucking kidding me, bro? That girl? Is that seriously how you're gonna refer to your sister after she breathed meaning into your life? By referring to her as, that girl? You should be fucking ashamed, bro.

Anywho, i loved his backstory this episode, loved it, loved it, loved it. The romantic lover in me is surfacing and he's hoping to see OtonashixKanade! That would make me love this series 10x more! PLEASE. Otonashi was the fucking man in his past life, loved the person he was. Love the person Kanade is in this afterlife. She really is an angel :] Such a pure heart with this girl.

I would also quote the ending of the Dark Knight here, but that'd be too cliche
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Sep 2, 2013 12:50 PM

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one of the best episode for sure T__T

really showed how Otonoash's willingness to help others even though at first he didn't care about anyone, but her sister.

btw it seems Otonashi has been getting alot of bromance!!!

not that i mind or anything i just noticed it XD

final boss will definitely have to be between Yuri, Tenshin and Otanashi.

i'm guessing Yuri will find about their plan will refuse to move on.

can't wait for the next episodes!!!
Oct 14, 2013 5:59 AM

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love u kanade, good talk and relisation at the infarmary room

can anybody tell me what is the back grond song?
Oct 18, 2013 6:35 PM

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Shiina and TK shined in this episode!

Slow rescue team... If only they arrived a bit sooner... Dat donor card scene. (T_T)
By the way, where the hell did the guy who stole the water think he was going?

Ohh, so that's why Kanade's friends disappeared! That was her plan the entire time!
Maybe that's why she's called Angel.
And now Otonashi has the same plan! Is he Angel too? Or is he God?
I wonder who'll disappear next... By the way, Otonashi X Kanade!!
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Dec 5, 2013 5:54 PM

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Finally, things start to pick up. The previous episodes were good, but it was mostly comedy and SSS dicking around/living their everyday lives. Now they might have a real purpose

Otonashi's full story is quite sad, especially the scenes where he gives up his water that the other guy spilled and when he fills out the organ donation card. It shows that he really has moved on and is devoted to helping others

This kinda makes me wonder how he even got to that world. Like what is he regretting?

And the fucking rescue people conveniently arrive a few seconds after he dies.

The scene where Tenshi reveals that she's trying to help everyone was also pretty satisfying, although the comedy felt a little out of place considering the scenes before it

Also, Otonashi going and saving everyone pretty much means that the next couple episodes are going to be filled with sob stories :/
My body is ready

What I'm wondering is how the disappearances will be executed. Will they disappear one by one, til one person remains? Or will several of them disappear together?
I kinda hope it's the latter, although that situation seems somewhat unrealistic when I think about it.
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