supersonic124 said: fertygo said: yeah, that what I meant, I download it if really want hear the dubs, or just watch the fansubs if found dubs will not work for certain title, even already buys the DVD. the bundle's is too precious to be broken ;___;You can download dubs too, they aren't that hard to find......... Why don't we actually stick to talking about the topic itself as oppse to another opportunity to share random opinions over how we wanna watch a show, regardless of the audio or format, okay? fertygo said: Don't die yet funi, I'm still waiting your release of Casshern Sins, and the rest of EVA rebuild and FMA: B T________T You might wanna read posts # 30, 31, and 32 before you feel it's the call of the apocalypse. Also as you read post # 30, try to actually bother clicking the link and then listening to the podcast. The people will clarify everything 10 minutes into the episode. |
| @hypeathon lol I know about posts # 30, 31, and 32, I'm just react to people who wants funi dies, etc. + trolling <3 Btw I think "acquisition" is the better words for this context rather "dispose" |
fertygoMay 28, 2010 10:20 AM
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| The shortsighted, ignorant dumbfucks in this thread displaying their lack of intelligence is simply amazing. If FUNi goes down, so does the industry. |
| Okay, reading through this thread has probably given me a mental aneurysm so the full ranting content of this post shall be in the spoiler tag while the normal grammar correct will be after. If any minor religions are offended by the following, I apologize. Oh and this is strictly dedicated to FUNi haters/people who don't realize what they're talking about. Oh and before anybody pulls the "LOL, U MAD" crap or variation thereof, let me beat you to the punch and say...yes, yes I was mad but I'm good now. Now as for this news, I'd be interested in who is going to pick up the slack? I think a Bandai/FUNi fusion would be cool. Then Bandai wouldn't have to worry about BangZoom possibly folding. Good riddance my ass. You know damn well you probably watched DBZ or Yu Yu Hakusho as kids |
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| doesn't that just mean they might go solo or find another parent? funimation is still racking in profits. |
| Asoona: FA..............THTZ MESSED UP!!!! LEAVE FUNimation ALONE!!!!!!!! kiyo: they're crazy for planning that ._. |
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| Oh, dear. The R1 animu industry sure isn't looking good. Then again, I live in Europe, so this really won't affect me. =P |
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| *kisami: it's like Volkswagen isn't creating passats anymore and now everyone from the passat sector wants to transfer to bmw. It's the exact thing you said but with other example. It's irrational... I doubt Funi will be disposed of. |
"If people want to achieve time travel,they should just put Haruhi on a spaceship.She'd probably just ignore the theory of relativity." - Kyon |
Sempie said: So even though Funi is raking in the big dough there considering it still? :| EDIT: As if current production teamups, and the current RAINBOW simulcast aren't evident enough. Funi is selling, and doing excellent in the market. Licenses recently? No. But keeping up in profit? Yes. Navarre would complete would have to be a dumbass to give Funi away with that much load of cash sailing with it. |
| So wait. Hold the phone. Who the hell went raging about "dub-haters" when not a single person said they hated FUNi's dubs? Learn to fucking read. No wonder you all seem to hump the dubs like they're your bitch. You can't read properly. My earlier comment was entirely meant to be only tangentially related to the news post, in that I do hope they die in a fire. They deserve it. There are many, more talented companies, and simply because their business model caters to idiots such as those who have posted here irrationally defending them against imaginary people, they still exist where others have fallen. Never mind that they're raping the series you supposedly "love." I would ask that you all please do your own research, you know, based on something outside of your country, since you seem to feel it's important. Long live Mediablasters and AnimeWorks. Rest in peace Geneon. And Bandai, you're really not all that bad, just more like the red-headed stepchild. Come into your own already. End rant. |
Sumiregawa-kunMay 28, 2010 3:50 PM
garfield15 said: Okay, reading through this thread has probably given me a mental aneurysm so the full ranting content of this post shall be in the spoiler tag while the normal grammar correct will be after. If any minor religions are offended by the following, I apologize. Oh and this is strictly dedicated to FUNi haters/people who don't realize what they're talking about. Oh and before anybody pulls the "LOL, U MAD" crap or variation thereof, let me beat you to the punch and say...yes, yes I was mad but I'm good now. Now as for this news, I'd be interested in who is going to pick up the slack? I think a Bandai/FUNi fusion would be cool. Then Bandai wouldn't have to worry about BangZoom possibly folding. Good riddance my ass. You know damn well you probably watched DBZ or Yu Yu Hakusho as kids *Gives him the greatest Thumbs-Up he has ever given to anyone* Amen FUNI getting disposed of(or whatever)would really be a kick in the balls to everyone. |
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| Wow. Quite a lot of conflict here. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who sounds the more reasonable. I think the main concern here is was do these people feel compelled to vomit their hate for funimation. This is outright stupid because 1: It does not effect you in the slightest. Even if Funimation ran out of business(Even though this article has nothing to do with that) that wouldn't have any impact on your precious fansubs. 2: If you watch fansubs then chances are you don't buy anime. So you are being a serious douche in bashing a company that is trying to sell you what you have been outright stealing. 3: Why bother voicing hate in the first place? Nothing else better to do than bitch on the internet? If you are just going to bitch what has been bitched to death then whats the point of posting at all! Get a hobby dumbass. Well seeya I am off to watch some anime..... |
AidanAK47May 28, 2010 5:52 PM
 "I always take life with a grain of salt, ...plus a slice of lemon, ...and a shot of tequila." |
| Really. How often do R1 releases NOT named Pokemon lack subs these days? If you're honestly disabled to the point of not understanding how to change language settings on a DVD player, anime should be the least of your concerns. Being lazy or a moron doesn't cut it. |
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| Awful lot of butt hurt in this thread. "BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SUBFAGS ARE MAKING FUN OF MY DUB LOVE" I don't care about Funi's dubs, I don't need to beat a dead horse, them going the way of the dinosaur just means less C&Ds to inconvenience my Animu pirating, god I hate those C&Ds it makes me have to click 2 links instead of 1. Oh well DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! |
JigeroMay 29, 2010 1:28 AM
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| Sorry funi haters I doubt they'll will die soon, they announcing new titles for their simulcast http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-05-28/funimation-to-simulcast-rainbow-tv-anime Sigh... its will be hard for watching the fansubs for this title for now, but nah... like they can stop me watch Soul Eater, FMA: B. and others from fansubs lol |
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| Hmm it's not that I hate funi it's just that I don't give a shit about them. And furthermore you don't need to have a reason to not give a shit about something or someone. So this thread (in my not so humble opinion) is the perfect place for misplaced rage! Oh dubs are definitely important to the industry (the profitable one atleast) but fansubs are what started the popularity in alot of series. You can argue with this fact as much as you want but must of you probably don't remember the VHS era when most animes never got dubs. |
| All this licensing company's were just gaining profit on animes by dubbing... who the hell need dubs if we already have subs and pro-seiyuus?? (mostly though..) |
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
Cashdaxxx said: All this licensing company's were just gaining profit on animes by dubbing... who the hell need dubs if we already have subs and pro-seiyuus?? (mostly though..) Because there are people who prefer dubs? |
| ITT: dubfags think that R1 licenses and releases actually effect the anime industry as a whole. Onibokusu said: Sorry for pinning you as an idiot...but you are aware that R2 DVDs are a by-product of R1s, right? because the R1's come out before the R2's right? sorry for pinning you as an idiot...but you are aware of the fact that dvd region has no bearing on the content's source, right? Jigero said: Awful lot of butt hurt in this thread. "BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SUBFAGS ARE MAKING FUN OF MY DUB LOVE" I don't care about Funi's dubs, I don't need to beat a dead horse, them going the way of the dinosaur just means less C&Ds to inconvenience my Animu pirating, god I hate those C&Ds it makes me have to click 2 links instead of 1. Oh well DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! its not dead yet, but we can hope. |
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| This happens a lot in the American Buisness world. Funimation being the size that it is won't dissapear though. If/When Nivarre doesn't want Funimation anymore as the parent company Nivarre will sell Funimation to another big company that is interested in the industry, because Nivarre can make a lot of money just through the sale of Funimation. Funimation's future will be decided by that company, whether the company will leave Funimation as a subsidiary company like it is with Nivarre or integrate it with the main company. |
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fumino_kaji said: ITT: dubfags think that R1 licenses and releases actually effect the anime industry as a whole. It does to an extent. You do know the Anime Industry is severely dying in Japan, which is extending over to outsourcing more of these jobs in China and Korea? And also, the Japanese Government are funding to make Anime popular WORLDWIDE. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-01/japan-to-fund-10-billion-yen-to-promote-content-abroad So yes, if Funi dies, then it could result in a severe blow to the western industry of Animation, which could cripple the Japanese Government's vision of a worldwide promotion of anime, especially where America is one of the country which consumes a lot of anime. |
| MY God...How can 80% of the people posting on this forum be so DUMB...Instead of ranting on like the rest of you idiots i will quote what was said from our New Team friend.If on some off chance you still can not grasp what was said in that paragraph you my friend need to revaluate your education level... dtshyk said: The development of the profits and the business of FUNimation has met Navarre's expectation, but the anime business has deviated from the core project of Navarre, which closed its movie and music media section in 2009. Anime!Anime! speculates that Navarre will concentrate its resources on PC related business. Navarre said the consideration of the sale doesn't immediately lead to the actual disposal.] NOTE:I even deleted the useless text and left the ones that point to the real reason for the idiots :) Seriously people read before you post.. |
Angra-MainyuMay 29, 2010 9:16 AM
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Osianilist said: MY God...How can 80% of the people posting on this forum be so DUMB... Because those 80% do not actually read the information before posting. |
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AidanAK47 said: Wow. Quite a lot of conflict here. Doesn't take a genius to figure out who sounds the more reasonable. I think the main concern here is was do these people feel compelled to vomit their hate for funimation. This is outright stupid because 1: It does not effect you in the slightest. Even if Funimation ran out of business(Even though this article has nothing to do with that) that wouldn't have any impact on your precious fansubs. 2: If you watch fansubs then chances are you don't buy anime. So you are being a serious douche in bashing a company that is trying to sell you what you have been outright stealing. 3: Why bother voicing hate in the first place? Nothing else better to do than bitch on the internet? If you are just going to bitch what has been bitched to death then whats the point of posting at all! Get a hobby dumbass. Well seeya I am off to watch some anime..... QFT. That, and as said many people are just bitching, and moaning over this when all there doing is just flame baiting/trolling/acting like dumbfucks. |
fumino_kaji said: ITT: dubfags think that R1 licenses and releases actually effect the anime industry as a whole. If were dubfags what does that make you? Also think about it, after r1 companies licensed alot of stuff in 2005-2008 we started getting alot of great anime like black lagoon, code geass, death note etc,but now as more and more r1 companies go down the less good anime we get, look at the past 2 seasons of anime it has been nothing but crap compared to 2006-2008 when the r1 companies were licensing alot of stuff. If the r1 companies stopped licensing stuff, the anime studios would have less money to spend to produce risker stuff and instead just make safe moe crap like they have been doing for the past 2 seasons. |
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Daimyo said: Hmm it's not that I hate funi it's just that I don't give a shit about them. And furthermore you don't need to have a reason to not give a shit about something or someone. So this thread (in my not so humble opinion) is the perfect place for misplaced rage! Oh dubs are definitely important to the industry (the profitable one atleast) but fansubs are what started the popularity in alot of series. You can argue with this fact as much as you want but must of you probably don't remember the VHS era when most animes never got dubs. Thanks for expanding on my point. Fansubs are not a problem. Fansubs that support piracy are. People don't get there's a HUGE difference between these two concepts. |
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supersonic124 said: If were dubfags what does that make you? a rawfag. r2 dvd's & BR's ftw. |
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| I'm seeing a reversal in trends from the 90s here. There is now a growing feeling that anime sucks because it's too popular, so people are rooting for it to go back to an underground cult sensation. When Bang Zoom announced the possibility of dropping dubs altogether last month, there was a lot of rejoicing for precisely that reason. Ironically in the 90s anime fans were wanting it to become more mainstream and accepted and now the shoe's on the other foot. |
| It saddens me how neither side actually has the moral high-ground since even the dub viewers are just downloading(illegally I presume). Also, I think this is the first time I seriously see someone say "that's how I roll". Outside some lame movie that is. |
Leon-GunMay 29, 2010 6:23 PM
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| well, if anything, it seems that Navarre is pretty serious about moving FUNI... that's a pretty serious investment firm they've got working the dealings. |
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AICW said: I'm seeing a reversal in trends from the 90s here. There is now a growing feeling that anime sucks because it's too popular, so people are rooting for it to go back to an underground cult sensation. I thought anime sucks (or rather is sucking) because it's too niche. AICW said: When Bang Zoom announced the possibility of dropping dubs altogether last month Actually I believe it was more-so that Bandai, Bang Zoom's main client with dubbing anime, that would possibly cut the strings with going to recording studios like Bang Zoom and just stick to sub-only releases like with Kannagi and Hayate Combat Butler. AICW said: there was a lot of rejoicing for precisely that reason. Ironically in the 90s anime fans were wanting it to become more mainstream and accepted and now the shoe's on the other foot. Statements like this makes me wonder if enough people here read the opinions from various anime forums other than MAL like at Adult Swim, ANN, or the Mania website so they would know whether or not less people want anime to be mainstream. |
HypeathonMay 29, 2010 10:07 PM
| Bleh its dumb. it doesn't matter you buy R1 or R2, if I want to buy DVD/BD's anime its means I want to collect and appreciate it. But if R1 available of course I rather it than the R2 because its more cheap. to be honest I don't care the subs/dubs Quality of R1 have, because if I buy it simply for collect and Appreciate it. my cousins have Kaiji R2 box-set for about 260USD and not able to play it on DVD and not complain about it because he can watch the fansubs anytime, and on the other hand I buy Baccano Funi box-set only for 40USD, and not even bother to open the bundle. that its, some people buy anime DVD'S not only to watch it, they just want to collect and support title's which they like. that why I support funi, because they offer 2nd options to me rather to buy the expensive R1. |
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nmanguy said: Jigero said: Awful lot of butt hurt in this thread. "BAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW SUBFAGS ARE MAKING FUN OF MY DUB LOVE" I don't care about Funi's dubs, I don't need to beat a dead horse, them going the way of the dinosaur just means less C&Ds to inconvenience my Animu pirating, god I hate those C&Ds it makes me have to click 2 links instead of 1. Oh well DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! God forbid those crazy Japs want to make money outside their country instead of giving it out for free. Actually, are you being serious? I have a suspicion that we're all being punked... 1st of all, Yes I was serious. 2nd of all, C&Ds have nothing do with the Japanese wanting to make money, It's the American companies who send out the C&Ds for their own interests. 3rd of all, They send them out like it matters, they C&D a website or a Fansubber but it does nothing, because there are plenty of other fansub groups, individuals and websites releasing the exact same content. 4th of all, I've yet to see any C&D stop me from getting any kind of content. It just requires me searching a little more, so I'll be glad when they're less of them, because like I said, I wanna do one click not two. |
JigeroMay 30, 2010 10:13 AM
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
2nd of all, C&Ds have nothing do with the Japanese wanting to make money, It's the American companies who send out the C&Ds for their own interests. 3rd of all, They send them out like it matters, they C&D a website or a Fansubber but it does nothing, because there are plenty of other fansub groups, individuals and websites releasing the exact same content. A) Japanese companies also are irked by fansubbing. It not only affects their international market, but it alsi affects them locally. Ignore the subtitles and there's no difference between it and a regular rip. B) That just goes to show how the fansub community turned from just providing content unavailable otherwise to plain and simple piracy. |
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Leon-Gun said: 2nd of all, C&Ds have nothing do with the Japanese wanting to make money, It's the American companies who send out the C&Ds for their own interests. 3rd of all, They send them out like it matters, they C&D a website or a Fansubber but it does nothing, because there are plenty of other fansub groups, individuals and websites releasing the exact same content. A) Japanese companies also are irked by fansubbing. It not only affects their international market, but it alsi affects them locally. Ignore the subtitles and there's no difference between it and a regular rip. B) That just goes to show how the fansub community turned from just providing content unavailable otherwise to plain and simple piracy. A) no shit ya think? but they aren't the ones that issue the C&Ds. Nor do the American companies issue them at the behest of the Japanese companies, American companies issue them because it's in their own self interest. You completely missed my point. B) OH NOES PIRACY ON THE INTERWEBS! shit gets stolen, no business is impervious to it, But the Anime industry does nothing to prevent it, only cries about it and drags it's feet when ever possible. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
| Question : Do we really suffer from funi C&D ? to be honest I'm never forced to stop watch fansubs because this C&D stuff. name it Nabari no Ou, Shikabane Hime, Soul Eater, and many others and I'm still can watch fansubs back then. conclusion : we have mininum loss or maybe nothing at all, and Funi have loss because some people mindless hate and people likes me who refuse to buy title which I don't want to collect and still watch it illegally. |
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| Ugh. What's with the high horse build up among newer self-proclaimed "fans"? Being able to obtain something illegally is not a right. If one must, fine. Then be humble and just admit it bluntly. No making a big deal. *spoiler warning just in case* It's not like we shouldn't have been expecting anime/manga would decline either. In a way, the problems both trace back to and are foreshadowed by Urusei Yatsura. The former in inspiring the industry's attempts to push the T&A envelope further*. The latter when you consider Ataru Moroboshi's behavior throughout the series and how its final manga chapter ends. *The funny part is it hasn't worked, so many babes created for a massive array of series and together they can't make Lum forgotten. |
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| Just out of curiosity, are we ever going to talk about what the news article is about? In other words, not about FUNi dying. Cause it seems a lot of people think FUNi is dying for some reason. |
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nmanguy said: Okay, first of all, the reason American companies issue the C&D's is because they shelled out an easy $500,000 to license a 26 episode show for distribution. Guess who they buy it from. And if they decide not to license new shows because they can't profit, guess who loses out on that $500k... Secondly, I don't have an issue with you torrenting the shit out of your internet tubes, hell I can even relate to the reasons you guys give, but acting like it's a right is just ridiculous. Anyway, none of this matters because they're not actually closing, they're just changing ownership to whatever more media-oriented company buys them. Heh, I just realize that, you know what, this thing probably screws you over instead of letting you roam free, since whoever buys them will probably already be an MPAA-backed powerhouse that goes after people just for stealing already-made content that doesn't depend on DVD sales. After all, a movie/TV show already makes its money back before they burn it for mass sale, so everything after that is pure profit, while an anime company starts out in the red with their enormous licensing fees and subbing/dubbing costs. Oh noez now the anime industry can only make 3 crappy anime a season instead of 5! your preaching to some one who doesn't really give a damn. I never said I had a right, I just think it's funny how people like you try to interject morals into it when again, I just don't care, anime is one of the many things I pirate. Oh the MPAA? yea cause they do such a super job against pirating. Even so I doubt it, they will probably be torn into pieces and thrown to the 4 winds like ADV. |
| It doesn't think, it doesn't feel, it doesn't laugh or cry..... All it does from dusk till dawn is make the soldiers die. |
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