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May 26, 2010 4:55 AM

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Lots of people assume lolicon and pedophilia go hand in hand but according to the accredited Yuu Mental Health Clinic, it is not. You can find out and read the full legal difference between the two in their manga pamphlet.

The first four pages:

Finish reading HERE. Original version HERE.

Well its funny and educational which is pretty rare. Also the final line is pretty funny... "Come to the clinic or go to the police!"

Well what are your thoughts about all this? And why does most people think everything that deals with loli's or moe has to be about sexualizing them when it's clearly not?

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I basically see it like this:

Lolicon: crazy otaku who like 2D images of little kids, or really any underage looking character. (basically harmless to like images of imaginary kids)


Pedophilia:fucked up people who like REAL little kids, these are the fuckers who need to be in jail and raped repeatedly, then they'll understand how crazy they are.
 
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I swear Sankaku Complex is become like another 4chan.
"Hey y'all, I found this on Sankaku Complex today, so I thought I would share".

Well, I'm not going to respond to that old comic and article because that doesn't interest me.

But I will indeed repeat a couple of points.
Paedophilia is very limited. Lolicon means loads of things now, especially to the non-Japanese audience, and I think much of it is true for Japan as well.

Paedophilia is limited to preference, that is, orientation toward prepubescent children.
Lolita/Lolicon is a fashion. A paternal desire for children. A sexual desire for children. A sexual desire for neoteny. Another name for Dolores. And quite a few other things as it seems to keep 'evolving'.

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I always thought pedophiles referred to lolicon priests and monks... /:
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O hay look it's another one of these threads, it's only been the like 9th one this month.
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Personally, the way I see it is, a pervert is a pervert no matter how you look at it.
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JESUS CHRIST! HOW MANY TOPICS ABOUT THIS LOLICON BULLSHIT HAVE TO EXIST! I SHOULD START A COUNTER COUNTING HOW MANY TOPICS PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT THEM!
 
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Yes there are many topics about this ^^

The comic strip makes a clear point which is very important. It is not "sick" or anything to be attracted to 13+ aged girls. Of course it is illegal, but biologically speaking puberty etc comes earlier for girls than for boys and most girls could - biologically - get pregnant with 13 so for nature sex is okay (not to mention that not too long ago it was still normal to marry girls that age etc..).
Not that I want to make it legal again, on the contrary, but I think it is important to know that THAT is not a pedophile/pervert, that only starts when you are attracted to kids who are even biologically too young for sex, becasue there is no biological/evolutional reason to do so, so it would be some kind of disorder. If you say otherwise you just call Nature itself a pervert, which is okay but doesn't make much sense.
But I would say both these groups are part of the lolicon community although it does heavily focus on the younger group..
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Higashi_no_Kaze said:
It is not "sick" or anything to be attracted to 13+ aged girls. Of course it is illegal, but biologically speaking puberty etc comes earlier for girls than for boys and most girls could - biologically - get pregnant with 13 so for nature sex is okay (not to mention that not too long ago it was still normal to marry girls that age etc..)..

But drawn pictures of 13+ aged girls can't get pregnant and it wouldn't be natural to be attracted to objects - so where is your god now?
 
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JESUS CHRIST! HOW MANY TOPICS ABOUT THIS LOLICON BULLSHIT HAVE TO EXIST! I SHOULD START A COUNTER COUNTING HOW MANY TOPICS PEOPLE MAKE ABOUT THEM!

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Personally, the way I see it is, a pervert is a pervert no matter how you look at it.


Hear, hear.

 
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A and B don't look like lolis tho

 
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alexcampos said:
I basically see it like this:

Lolicon: crazy otaku who like 2D images of little kids, or really any underage looking character. (basically harmless to like images of imaginary kids)


Pedophilia:fucked up people who like REAL little kids, these are the fuckers who need to be in jail and raped repeatedly, then they'll understand how crazy they are.


QFT

Anyway most anime fans are lolicons except for those mainstream only people, if you watch different anime you will favor or fall in love with one sooner or later, it's inevitable.


 
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Onitenshi said:
Higashi_no_Kaze said:
It is not "sick" or anything to be attracted to 13+ aged girls. Of course it is illegal, but biologically speaking puberty etc comes earlier for girls than for boys and most girls could - biologically - get pregnant with 13 so for nature sex is okay (not to mention that not too long ago it was still normal to marry girls that age etc..)..

But drawn pictures of 13+ aged girls can't get pregnant and it wouldn't be natural to be attracted to objects - so where is your god now?


(Real) Pornography is also just data and people wank off watching it, are they also attracted to objects? It is a matter of representation, I didn't think I'd need to explain that. No matter what the medium. Pictures and real movies each have their upsides and downsides in representing things people are attracted to, but that is not the topic.


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There's nothing wrong with having a pedophilia sexual orientation. What is wrong, is using your status as an adult person to abuse children.

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Lots of people assume lolicon and pedophilia go hand in hand but according to the accredited Yuu Mental Health Clinic, it is not. You can find out and read the full legal difference between the two in their manga pamphlet.

The first four pages:

Finish reading HERE. Original version HERE.

Well its funny and educational which is pretty rare. Also the final line is pretty funny... "Come to the clinic or go to the police!"

Well what are your thoughts about all this? And why does most people think everything that deals with loli's or moe has to be about sexualizing them when it's clearly not?


Lets go by some definitions here instead of relying on a comic drawn by a pedophile or closet pedophile. First of a all a loli is a depictions of a prepubescent child. Pornography according to The American Heritage® Dictionary is the sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.This does not make the distinctions if it is drawn,computer animated, or photographed or if the stories contain real or fake people. So a hentai manga or anime with a loli in it is depicted in it simulated child porn. So if you like to look at loli hentia then you are indeed a pedophile.

Lolis = depictions of prepubescent children

porn= images, writings or other media meant to sexually arouse someone,regardless if the subjects in them are real or fake

pedophile= someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children

Hentai=porn

Loli+ Hentai = depicted child porn

someone who watch depicted child porn = pedophile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon
Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanized as rorikon, is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex".[1][2] In Japan, the term describes an attraction to girls,[3] or an individual with such an attraction.[4][5] Outside Japan, the term is less common and most often refers to a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are depicted in an erotic manner
 
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ezikialrage said:


Lolis = depictions of prepubescent children



Mimina Ousawa wants to have a very long talk with you.

Actually only around 50% of lolis are actually children and the others are just very small women.


 
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ezikialrage said:
Ranivus said:
Lots of people assume lolicon and pedophilia go hand in hand but according to the accredited Yuu Mental Health Clinic, it is not. You can find out and read the full legal difference between the two in their manga pamphlet.

The first four pages:

Finish reading HERE. Original version HERE.

Well its funny and educational which is pretty rare. Also the final line is pretty funny... "Come to the clinic or go to the police!"

Well what are your thoughts about all this? And why does most people think everything that deals with loli's or moe has to be about sexualizing them when it's clearly not?


Lets go by some definitions here instead of relying on a comic drawn by a pedophile or closet pedophile. First of a all a loli is a depictions of a prepubescent child. Pornography according to The American Heritage® Dictionary is the sexually explicit pictures, writing, or other material whose primary purpose is to cause sexual arousal.This does not make the distinctions if it is drawn,computer animated, or photographed or if the stories contain real or fake people. So a hentai manga or anime with a loli in it is depicted in it simulated child porn. So if you like to look at loli hentia then you are indeed a pedophile.

Lolis = depictions of prepubescent children

porn= images, writings or other media meant to sexually arouse someone,regardless if the subjects in them are real or fake

pedophile= someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children

Hentai=porn

Loli+ Hentai = depicted child porn

someone who watch depicted child porn = pedophile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon
Lolicon (ロリコン?), also romanized as rorikon, is a Japanese portmanteau of the phrase "Lolita complex".[1][2] In Japan, the term describes an attraction to girls,[3] or an individual with such an attraction.[4][5] Outside Japan, the term is less common and most often refers to a genre of manga and anime wherein childlike female characters are depicted in an erotic manner


Fail on so many levels.

Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.

Your trying to make the assumption that "lol well it looks the same so it must be the same thing." It's like saying a blunt that contains the tobaccos is the exact same thing as a blunt that contains marijuana, just cause they look similar.
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Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.


Funny that you mention the book Lolita, as I'm reading it (or listening to it, narrated by Jeremy Irons) and the book has a few insanely interesting lines that might add to the discussion here.

"Now I wish to introduce the following idea. Between the age limits of nine and fourteen there occur maidens who, to certain bewitched travelers, twice or many times older than they, reveal their true nature which is not human, but nymphic (that is, demoniac); and these chosen creatures I propose to designate as "nymphets."

"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."

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funny how people are quick to cry "We already did this" when it was clear that it was about the manga which im sure most of you didnt finish reading or read at all.

I mean none of that maga was funny? Actually some of you really need to take that Pedophilia Diagnosis Quiz. I mean you're trying to make a statement when the actual diagnosis from doctors in an accredited Mental Institution state that there is a huge difference.

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I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.


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Jigero said:
Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.


Funny that you mention the book Lolita, as I'm reading it (or listening to it, narrated by Jeremy Irons) and the book has a few insanely interesting lines that might add to the discussion here.

"Now I wish to introduce the following idea. Between the age limits of nine and fourteen there occur maidens who, to certain bewitched travelers, twice or many times older than they, reveal their true nature which is not human, but nymphic (that is, demoniac); and these chosen creatures I propose to designate as "nymphets."

"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."


May I translate that into simple terms, a lolita is a very young female that tends to seduce or be an object of seduction for men, the man falls for it, tries to shower her with love and possibly sex and eventually it overwhelms him and his life is ruined. The word means misery in Spanish as well which is ultimately fitting seeing as the afflicted man ends up in prison eventually.


 
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I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.


i wonder if saying "filthy japs" while having Ace Attorney Phoenix Wright as a forum avater would be considered as irony?
Well the racist didn't read it at all, thats a shame.

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kitkatbar said:
I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.


The Japanese are not the only ones who use pedophilia as a running gag in cartoons, Its also a gag in Family Guy with the character Herbert who lusts after chris and young boys.



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Fail on so many levels.

Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.

Your trying to make the assumption that "lol well it looks the same so it must be the same thing." It's like saying a blunt that contains the tobaccos is the exact same thing as a blunt that contains marijuana, just cause they look similar.


SO instead of pedophile it is Hebephile . The sexual preference for individuals in the early years of puberty. So instead of looking at sexual depictions of 1-10 year olds they like looking at sexual depictions of 11 and 12 year olds. How is this any better?
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Anyway most anime fans are lolicons except for those mainstream only people, if you watch different anime you will favor or fall in love with one sooner or later, it's inevitable.

Way to generalize much?
 
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"Lolita, light of my life, fire of my loins. My sin, my soul. Lo-lee-ta: the tip of the tongue taking a trip of three steps down the palate to tap, at three, on the teeth. Lo. Lee. Ta. She was Lo, plain Lo, in the morning, standing four feet ten in one sock. She was Lola in slacks. She was Dolly at school. She was Dolores on the dotted line. But in my arms she was always Lolita."
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ezikialrage said:
kitkatbar said:
I'm sure it's not all about sex for pedophiles either, just like you lolicons say.

It's the same shit.

Because in reality, lolicon is just the japanese way of saying pedophile, and the fact that the filthy japs lessened the meaning by making it a running gag in their cartoons, does not change this truth.


The Japanese are not the only ones who use pedophilia as a running gag in cartoons, Its also a gag in Family Guy with the character Herbert who lusts after chris and young boys.



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Fail on so many levels.

Lolicon is a play on the term Lolita Complex. The term Lolita comes from the 1955 Novel entitled Lolita. The author described a Lolita as a sexually precocious adolescent girl, not prepubescent. Lolicon is the sexual depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls, not an actual depiction. as fictional character do not have ages and their entire existence is figment. Pedophiles are people sexually attracted to real children.

Your trying to make the assumption that "lol well it looks the same so it must be the same thing." It's like saying a blunt that contains the tobaccos is the exact same thing as a blunt that contains marijuana, just cause they look similar.


SO instead of pedophile it is Hebephile . The sexual preference for individuals in the early years of puberty. So instead of looking at sexual depictions of 1-10 year olds they like looking at sexual depictions of 11 and 12 year olds. How is this any better?


you missed the point. Lolicon is not a depiction of children. It's a depiction of fictional characters that resemble young girls. (most lolicon barely even resembles children)

Fictional Depictions are not the same thing as Actual Depictions. Lolicon is not based on real people or situations.
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People who get off to drawings of very young girls. Got it.
 
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uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)
 
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uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)
My final answer is A. Yessir it is.
 
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Eh i don't really consider Horo a loli but the rest looks fine.
 
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alexcampos said:
uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)


none of those are lolis. They're too old.
 
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Oh yay, another chance to turn this into a "is this loli?" thread when all of my other ones failed.


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uhhh, quick question, which of the following would you consider to be a loli?

a) Horo (Spice and Wolf)

b) Mio Akiyama (K-ON!)

c) Yuki Nagato (TMoHS)


none of those are lolis. They're too old.


Saying they're too old doesn't cut it, last time I checked Konata (Lucky Star) is 18.

The reason I posed the question is because I knew that most people would be divided in their answers, some would say yes others would say no......

and THAT'S THE PROBLEM, there is no way to accurately say what a loli is,

do you have to be flat chested, short, have a childish voice, be a certain age???


Who knows, and WHO CARES, all anime girls are imaginary images, they ARE NOT REAL, therefore who cares if anyone is a lolicon, as long as the image is not a REAL child, it's fair game.
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Loli?
Who is she? Looks cute
 
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it doesn't matter, people will still think your fucked up with either/or.

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Loli?
Who is she? Looks cute
Some foxgirl from Kanokon
 
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I just think it's funny how people will try to claim Lolicon is bad and it makes you a pedophile. Yet tons of what we consider as "Classical Art" features naked women, some in overt sexual situations, which most likely had a real life model to pose for them and the women in these said depictions who are probably no older then 15 years old or younger. But liking this is okay, because it's what the righteous moralfag hypocrites consider "Art".
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Jigero said:
I just think it's funny how people will try to claim Lolicon is bad and it makes you a pedophile. Yet tons of what we consider as "Classical Art" features naked women, some in overt sexual situation, which most likely had a real life model to pose for them and the women in this said depictions who are probably no older then 15 year years old or younger. But liking this is okay, cause it's what the righteous moralfag hypocrites consider "Art".


Guess my original post didn't post. ezikialrage should never be taken seriously. He gets proven wrong in every single thread like this.
 
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I basically see it like this:

Lolicon: crazy otaku who like 2D images of little kids, or really any underage looking character. (basically harmless to like images of imaginary kids)


Pedophilia:fucked up people who like REAL little kids, these are the fuckers who need to be in jail and raped repeatedly, then they'll understand how crazy they are.


People can't control what they're attracted too... If someone has these feelings but doesn't try to ever hurt a kid, what's wrong with that? This is like hating gay people for being gay
 
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MAL - Justifying pedophilia
 
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People jerking off to loli would find child porn just as appealing. Actually, nevermind, they only masturbate to 2 dimensional drawings and scream in horror at anything without giant moe eyes, nonexistent mouths and noses, and generally fucked up anatomy.

I know anybody that gets hard over lolicon would fuck a 10-12 year old in real life if there were no consequences, so any justifications are void. Also, between people who masturbate to lolicon and pedophiles that want to fuck girls (same thing), they're both socially inept virgins and wack it in their parent's basement.

Same to me.
 
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Karppaky said:
Who is she? Looks cute

http://myanimelist.net/character/10900/Nozomu_Ezomori
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Personally, the way I see it is, a pervert is a pervert no matter how you look at it.

Eh, that's a really gentle thing to class the word in with nowadays. Especially if you extend it to it's usage in everyday fansubs.

If we're to agree with common usage of the word pervert, it includes not only paedophilia, but homosexuality, gender defiance(a woman out of the kitchen), race mixing, liking a fat person, thinking someone is dressed sexy, not managing to find the door within three seconds if someone starts changing right in front of you, and pretty much anything that isn't strict asexuality.

According to anime standards, or at least the standard fansub translation of "ecchi" pretty much anyone who has every had sex in their lives and wasn't raped is a pervert. In fact, even if you were forced into sex and didn't enjoy it, you're still a pervert.

I don't think it's fair to lump everyone with a sexuality in with paedophiles.

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Guess there is none. Lolicon is just for the perv who can restrict himself to drawn pictures.
 
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People jerking off to loli would find child porn just as appealing. Actually, nevermind, they only masturbate to 2 dimensional drawings and scream in horror at anything without giant moe eyes, nonexistent mouths and noses, and generally fucked up anatomy.

I know anybody that gets hard over lolicon would fuck a 10-12 year old in real life if there were no consequences, so any justifications are void. Also, between people who masturbate to lolicon and pedophiles that want to fuck girls (same thing), they're both socially inept virgins and wack it in their parent's basement.

Same to me.


I wouldn't encourage being a lolicon, but IT'S NOT THE SAME as Pedophilia.

Think about it the way porn is, normal people watch all types of porn, but they don't dwell on it and start making their fantasies come into real life.

If you watch S&M, or rape, or any other kind of fetish, that doesn't mean you're going to rape the next girl you see, most people understand that it's just fantasy and that real life doesn't work the way porn is.
 
May 28, 2010 7:17 AM

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Veronin said:
People jerking off to loli would find child porn just as appealing. Actually, nevermind, they only masturbate to 2 dimensional drawings and scream in horror at anything without giant moe eyes, nonexistent mouths and noses, and generally fucked up anatomy.

I know anybody that gets hard over lolicon would fuck a 10-12 year old in real life if there were no consequences, so any justifications are void. Also, between people who masturbate to lolicon and pedophiles that want to fuck girls (same thing), they're both socially inept virgins and wack it in their parent's basement.

Same to me.


Ok So you like Monster. Which has depictions of murder. So you have no problem going out and murdering people right? Cause according to your logic, liking a fictional depiction and doing a real act is the same thing right? That also should mean all people who play grand theft auto, in real life stealing cars and killing prostitutes is some thing they do every day?

People like you are the reason why people like me have to justify lolicon, because if incompetent hypocrite morons like you had your way, everyone would be in jail just for speaking their mind. But I think it's funny how you have no problem have fighting against your own right as a human being.
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May 28, 2010 2:41 PM

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Studies show that people who watch violent porn tend to take a more violent approach with their own partner.
And no one said violent videogames and movies don't contribute to a more violent behavior. The correlation is high.
It's the same with drawings. They see those children on TV and start thinking it might not be so bad to have a relationship with a little kid. That is why they have child idols in Japan, wearing the same kind of provocative clothing as they do in the depictions of them.


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kitkatbar said:
Studies show that people who watch violent porn tend to take a more violent approach with their own partner.
And no one said violent videogames and movies don't contribute to a more violent behavior. The correlation is high.
It's the same with drawings. They see those children on TV and start thinking it might not be so bad to have a relationship with a little kid. That is why they have child idols in Japan, wearing the same kind of provocative clothing as they do in the depictions of them.


Sounds like Jack Thompson said this and it sure reeks of his failosophy.


 
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