| Lost or inaccessible media are titles that are not possible for us to watch, for reasons such as the original tapes or recordings have gone missing or have been damaged or destroyed. Of course, there are anime that have been taken down from the internet at some point in time by the copyright holder, and has become lost media to those who haven't seen it (besides limited airings in cinemas or events in Japan). Though that is a blurry line of what could be considered lost media, and it's to be argued what conditions are needed to consider it lost media. There are many anime that can be viewed by renting copies (like educational anime) from libraries and schools. I'm asking for anyone willing to help MAL-Badges to list every piece of lost media that's in the MAL database, so that we can be accurate in our judgement as to what rank each badge should be set at. Down below in spoiler tags, I've listed each decade where links to all the MAL entries that are inaccessible (and the reason why) shall be listed. If something is listed and you manage to find it online or have a physical copy, then please share with us where you found it and I can remove it from the list. If you want, you can utilize your drop list like I have and place all lost media there |
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| @Kwanthemaster would this project be something you'd be interested in helping out? If you go decade by decade and list all the lost media entries? |
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Lmao, 191X badge only has 2 entries to its name. Nearly everything is lost media. @Koito91 |
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| This one boggling entry from the 1930's was said to be archived and it exists, but it cannot be viewed in public ever. And since there's absolutely no way anyone can see this one, this entry should also be blacklisted. It's inside this spoiler. |
| So 25 anime in total for the 192X badge. So 4 badge levels as listed in the spreadsheet. |
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| So 94 anime for the 193X badge. So 6 badge levels as listed in the spreadsheet. |
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LunyRem said: This one boggling entry from the 1930's was said to be archived and it exists, but it cannot be viewed in public ever. And since there's absolutely no way anyone can see this one, this entry should also be blacklisted. It's inside this spoiler. Hentai completionists frothing at the mouth knowing their goal of 100% completion is impossible. |
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| After a quick Google search, I found three pages that may be useful: Lost Anime Category page at Lost Media Archive Lost Media Interest Stack Lost Anime Iceberg at IcebergCharts.com |
 “In general, men prefer to let their actions speak instead of words. When they’re in pain, they don’t want to burden anyone with it, not if they can help it. They don’t want anyone to worry about them. That’s how they are. Even so, there may come a time when they’ll ask for your help. And when they do, I know that you’ll be there for them. Isn’t that enough?” — Maes Hughes |
| https://myanimelist.net/anime/28693/Seisho_Gensou_Fu__Adam_to_Eve Can someone check zoro.to as the name appears on that site? I can't access it cause my ISP has blocked it. |
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_cjessop19_ said: I tried to access zoro.to but i get the following message:https://myanimelist.net/anime/28693/Seisho_Gensou_Fu__Adam_to_Eve Can someone check zoro.to as the name appears on that site? I can't access it cause my ISP has blocked it. THIS WEBSITE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. Then, after 10 seconds it redirects to this page. |
“In general, men prefer to let their actions speak instead of words. When they’re in pain, they don’t want to burden anyone with it, not if they can help it. They don’t want anyone to worry about them. That’s how they are. Even so, there may come a time when they’ll ask for your help. And when they do, I know that you’ll be there for them. Isn’t that enough?” — Maes Hughes |
Kreidirk said: _cjessop19_ said: I tried to access zoro.to but i get the following message:https://myanimelist.net/anime/28693/Seisho_Gensou_Fu__Adam_to_Eve Can someone check zoro.to as the name appears on that site? I can't access it cause my ISP has blocked it. THIS WEBSITE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. Then, after 10 seconds it redirects to this page. Ah okay, glad it ain't just me. But it'd be a shame if that anime was actually on there. Maybe check wayback machine? |
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_cjessop19_ said: @Kwanthemaster would this project be something you'd be interested in helping out? If you go decade by decade and list all the lost media entries? So for the purposes of this document we are defining lost media as anything which is both known to have no existing copies or which could not have reasonably been marked legitimately by anyone on the site at any point in time? For example, I believe some of the Anime Beans series can now be considered lost media, but I managed to view them while the app was still up. The same could possibly said for some rouge commercials that were tossed after a marketing campaign and no copies have been found floating around elsewhere on the internet. On the flip side, many of the educational OVAs (see the relation list) are not on the internet/available to purchase, but are widely circulating at libraries and schools in Japan. Some of these show up occasionally, either through official uploads or someone ripping a copy. The note about "partially recovered, but still mostly inaccessible" is worth diving into too. There are some works which may only have partially surviving footage (e.g. Katsudou Shashin, but MAL and everywhere else tracks what is available (I think this is correct and can be completed) vs. something like Chaplin to Coogan which only a clip is online, but the full film is stored in an archive (maybe periodically shown at events like any other museum-exclusive material, but for all intents and purposes, not accessible). I think we can agree you are referring to the later, but I just wanted to call that out. While I may strive to be a purist in terms of wanting to complete the full version of things, I think it would reasonable to say if 50% or so of the footage is online (e.g. a short version of a music video), I wouldn't hold it against someone marking it. I am happy to review the lists and provide any additions once you've made them. Please feel free to refer to my dropped list if it helps (it's not tagged with lost media though). One thing I'll call out is that there are quite a few Minna no Uta that are believed to be lost. Only two are currently in the database: https://myanimelist.net/anime/43598/Ookina_Furudokei https://myanimelist.net/anime/39225/Watashi_no_Kamifuusen But I plan to add more over time if they are known to be animated (they will have no cover and a note that it is lost on the entry). |
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Kwanthemaster said: I believe some of the Anime Beans series can now be considered lost media, but I managed to view them while the app was still up. Even if you did watch them, myself and everyone else cannot. It's like how people watched the really old lost media when they were originally released, there will always be some people who have seen them. But for the sake of the present day, we would have to mark them down as lost media. Otherwise people can mark it down as complete when you're not supposed to. I won't list educational OVAs as lost media as you mentioned that they are widely circulating in schools and libraries, but I think it's reasonable to mark museum-exclusive or privately shown stuff as inaccessible/lost media as a majority of MAL users are outside Japan. Maybe not until those people upload it online if they feel like doing so. Kwanthemaster said: I am happy to review the lists and provide any additions once you've made them. If you could, that would be great. Half the stuff in these lists may be lost media, but no one has been able to find videos of them posted online. If you know where some of them may be watched, please share the link. |
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_cjessop19_ said: I checked zoro.to on Wayback Machine and the movie isn't there. Since the search bar doesn't work when you search for an anime once you are on the site, I went through all the anime that start with "A" and "S". Just in case the movie is titled using the Japanese title or the English title.Kreidirk said: I tried to access zoro.to but i get the following message: THIS WEBSITE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE DUE TO COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. Then, after 10 seconds it redirects to this page. Ah okay, glad it ain't just me. But it'd be a shame if that anime was actually on there. Maybe check wayback machine? |
“In general, men prefer to let their actions speak instead of words. When they’re in pain, they don’t want to burden anyone with it, not if they can help it. They don’t want anyone to worry about them. That’s how they are. Even so, there may come a time when they’ll ask for your help. And when they do, I know that you’ll be there for them. Isn’t that enough?” — Maes Hughes |
_cjessop19_ said: Alright, thanks for the clarifications. I completely understand wanting to keep up to date with lost media, but I don't think it is fair to punish people who have legitimately viewed something. We should still receive XP and not have our accounts flagged (for the purposes of Anime Beans, you can use the date the app shutdown: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2023-01-31/production-i.g-anime-beans-streaming-app-ends-service-on-march-31/.194367). Since I already did a breakdown of everything on Anime Beans, here is the unavailable list I came up with (you're welcome to double-check in case I missed something):Kwanthemaster said: I believe some of the Anime Beans series can now be considered lost media, but I managed to view them while the app was still up. Even if you did watch them, myself and everyone else cannot. It's like how people watched the really old lost media when they were originally released, there will always be some people who have seen them. But for the sake of the present day, we would have to mark them down as lost media. Otherwise people can mark it down as complete when you're not supposed to. I won't list educational OVAs as lost media as you mentioned that they are widely circulating in schools and libraries, but I think it's reasonable to mark museum-exclusive or privately shown stuff as inaccessible/lost media as a majority of MAL users are outside Japan. Maybe not until those people upload it online if they feel like doing so. Kwanthemaster said: I am happy to review the lists and provide any additions once you've made them. If you could, that would be great. Half the stuff in these lists may be lost media, but no one has been able to find videos of them posted online. If you know where some of them may be watched, please share the link. https://myanimelist.net/anime/36771/Baito-saki_wa_Aku_no_Soshiki https://myanimelist.net/anime/37647/Chibi_Airin_no_Yuruyaka_na_Nichijou https://myanimelist.net/anime/38403/Chuusotsu_Worker_kara_Hajimeru_Koukou_Seikatsu https://myanimelist.net/anime/35234/Dekiru_ka_na https://myanimelist.net/anime/39559/Ero%E2%97%86Lover https://myanimelist.net/anime/38348/Gift%C2%B1 https://myanimelist.net/anime/36151/Gohan_Suki https://myanimelist.net/anime/39851/Haishin_Yuusha https://myanimelist.net/anime/38100/Holiday_Love__Fuufukan_Renai https://myanimelist.net/anime/36152/Inagawa_Junji_no_Sugoku_Kowai_Hanashi https://myanimelist.net/anime/35233/Jingisukan_no_Jin-kun https://myanimelist.net/anime/35480/Karadasagashi (eps. 1-5: https://www.facebook.com/KaradaSagashi/videos) https://myanimelist.net/anime/38164/Kiss_made_Ato_1_Byou https://myanimelist.net/anime/35239/Kuruneko_ONA https://myanimelist.net/anime/36905/Mentori https://myanimelist.net/anime/38579/Monkey_Peak https://myanimelist.net/anime/37246/Moshimoshi_Terumi_Desu https://myanimelist.net/anime/38100/Holiday_Love__Fuufukan_Renai https://myanimelist.net/anime/37904/Meshinuma (eps. 1-2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWsHL4CNYyQ) https://myanimelist.net/anime/38272/Musunde_Hiraite https://myanimelist.net/anime/36464/Oshushi_Da_yo https://myanimelist.net/anime/38561/Pan_to_Boku_no_Momo-chan https://myanimelist.net/anime/35004/T-sensei https://myanimelist.net/anime/37554/Yousei_Tin_Tin https://myanimelist.net/anime/36705/Yuuwaku%E2%98%85Office_Lover_2 There are a couple of TV type entries which I have not found, but I think it is possible they may show up sometime, since they had a release off of the app: https://myanimelist.net/anime/37359/Kekkero_Ke https://myanimelist.net/anime/33398/Neko_Konogoro (should be one episode here; not sure which though: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1N7411X7FN) --- @Kreidirk - From my experience, these sort of sites are not exactly reliable sources for hard to find content, as they pull everything from other sources (primarily torrent sites) and sometimes list stuff which is incorrect or they don't even have a video linked at all. Never hurts to check, but just giving you heads up. |
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| So 84 anime for the 195X Badge, corresponding to 6 badge ranks as listed in the spreadsheet |
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| This is a really helpful thread! Hoping the club could affiliate with this club Lost Film Club too. But it's inactive. Related thread: A 'lost media' tag for anime and manga |
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