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May 21, 2010 7:02 PM
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http://myanimelist.net/people/5055/Tatsuya_Ishihara

He isn't involved in it. Think about it; Air, Kanon, Clannad all had him participate with the show. He isn't participating in Angel Blades, and although it's still good, it's not as good as the other Key shows because of his lack of involvement. It all makes sense now :D
I was here thinking what went wrong this time, why the show wasn't as enticing as the others.

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May 21, 2010 7:11 PM
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This show does not even have a strong plot, I am actually still unsure what the plot is.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
May 22, 2010 12:54 AM
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I think you mean "Ishihara Ritsu (石原立也)" ?


Director of:
AIR TV
CLANNAD TV
Kanon 2006
Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuutsu
May 22, 2010 1:07 AM
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Goway.
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SO...If Anime made by Key then The Anime is Good?.....
May 22, 2010 6:13 AM
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Ishihara has done participated quite a lot in the other Key works, which, in my opinion, made them awesome.

@DoubleDango
I never said Angel Beats is bad, I think it's great, but it just doesn't have what the other Key works had.
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May 23, 2010 3:05 AM
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KEY is not ONLY jun maeda...

anime is jun maeda's project.. not KEY-s project....

u cant possibly compare AIR and Angel Beats! ... cuz on AIR worked whole KEY crew....
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May 23, 2010 3:52 AM
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Never doubt a project unless you finish it, wait at least a couple more weeks till all 13 is out.

There's still some unexpected twists at the end.
May 23, 2010 5:03 AM
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Well, Ishihara Ritsu have been directing most of the successful animes, Konan, air and clannad and so on...

The new director of Angel beats is Seiji Kishi whom is great at messing up the whole shit and make it totally random to match up to the comedy, he was the director of Seto no Hanayome and that anime was not very too nice... Well, at least as random as Gintama xD

Jun Maeda's story and Seiji Kishi's randomness was expected to turn out awesome, at least that's what the other Staffs thought but this anime have mixed up the randomness comedy and the serious part abit too much xD
May 23, 2010 5:16 AM

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i think this anime is good....
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May 23, 2010 5:37 AM

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Yeah, this anime is great, that's what I think too, great comedy but a little bit lack of drama and
"emo moments", this isn't very similar to Maeda's style but it does contains some short scenes that are like Jun Maeda's style...
May 26, 2010 3:59 PM

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Personally, I'm enjoying this a heck of a lot more then Air... It still isn't up to Kanon and Clannad, but I never really saw a big deal with Air.

Something that is really working against Angel Beats! is the fact that it only has 13 episodes and it seems like it really needs more then that, unlike with Air where I didn't really think it felt rushed... It should have been a 24 episode thing instead.
May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

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Air TV wasn't really based on romance though, like the other Key words had been. Maybe that's why it hadn't struck you as kindly?

May 29, 2010 1:30 PM

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I now think Angel Beats is on par with the other Key works ^^
Just needed a little more time to settle in :O
9th episode was incredible!

May 29, 2010 2:42 PM

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Lucjan said:
I now think Angel Beats is on par with the other Key works ^^
Just needed a little more time to settle in :O
9th episode was incredible!
Darn, I agree with you

Typical Maeda animes, always have two perspectives.

In air, they went back to prehistoric times, in clannad; Ushio's conscious

In this anime the second perspective is when they flashes back to their memories.
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But he works for Kyoto Animation, not Key...
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Air sucked. Angel Beats doesn't. Making this topic wrong. /thread
Jun 4, 2010 12:29 PM

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Shut up BITCH! Lolololololololololololololololol

Edit: Your anime list sucks
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Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)
Sayonara,papa!


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clannad4ever said:
Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)

Nice one

The first season was more introduction and some drama and it let us know how their relationships were bound to each other, in second season, everything happened.
Jun 5, 2010 3:10 PM

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angel beats isnt as good cause the eyes are too small
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Angel Beats! isn't as good as the other Key works because of the pacing, I've read a lot of comments on here and this seems to come up time and time again. I think Kyoto Animation versions of Key stories are better, look at Air, Kanon 2006 and Clannad, for example all produced by KyoAni. Especially when you consider Kanon, as the original version had only 13 episodes, but KyoAni made it into 24 episodes. I'm sure Angel Beats! could have been 24 episodes as well which would have helped with the pacing.
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clannad4ever said:

Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)


Agreed ・ω ・
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animes123 said:
Angel Beats! isn't as good as the other Key works because of the pacing, I've read a lot of comments on here and this seems to come up time and time again. I think Kyoto Animation versions of Key stories are better, look at Air, Kanon 2006 and Clannad, for example all produced by KyoAni. Especially when you consider Kanon, as the original version had only 13 episodes, but KyoAni made it into 24 episodes. I'm sure Angel Beats! could have been 24 episodes as well which would have helped with the pacing.


Totally agree with this.

Angel Beats! was promising. It could have been one of the legendary anime if the pacing of the story were better than how it actually is. In most episodes, it seems like the comedic parts and the drama parts were mixed randomly -- too randomly, and that kinda ruins this anime. They could have added some transitions to make the story flow more smoothly.

I just think KyoAni had done a better job than this.
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clannad4ever said:

Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)


Why does everyone hate Air so much DX
I like AIR the best outta all of them o_O
I would have to say

AIR is god
Angel Beats is second in throne to god
Clannad is god's personal assistant
Kanon is just kinda there




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sailorlitakino said:
clannad4ever said:

Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)


Why does everyone hate Air so much DX
I like AIR the best outta all of them o_O
I would have to say

AIR is god
Angel Beats is second in throne to god
Clannad is god's personal assistant
Kanon is just kinda there


Because Air... Just didn't have the plot that the other three have. The characters are fine and all, but I think it suffers partially as well from what Angel Beats! does as well, it was kind of poorly paced. Nobody says it's bad or anything, just not as good as Clannad and Kanon, and Angel Beats is slowly but surely climbing over it as well.

Just personal opinion.
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Angel Beats is better than Air, but fails in comparison to other Key works by a lot

Angel Beats has a lot of good ideas that NEVER manage to get executed to their full potential, Maeda Jun really had something going for this show, but making it 13 episodes was the worst mistake he made. Because of such a limited time a lot of things are either left behind or are rushed crazily, and because of that the show has followed the same pattern for almost half its run, and it goes like this

1. Continue from where the last ep cliffhanger left
2. "Resolve" the issue by the first half of the episode or a bit longer
3. Small cooldown and return to "status quo"
4. Throw a twist right at the end, ignore whatever other plot elements were developed before and now focus on the new issue
5. Episode end, go back to #1

If this series was 24-26 eps long and had a more fleshed out plot and character development, I could easily put it above Clannad in terms of enjoyment
Jun 16, 2010 3:41 PM

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sailorlitakino said:
clannad4ever said:

Air is decent
Kanon is amazing
Angel beats is incredible
Clannad is god :)


Why does everyone hate Air so much DX
I like AIR the best outta all of them o_O
I would have to say

AIR is god
Angel Beats is second in throne to god
Clannad is god's personal assistant
Kanon is just kinda there


Lol, your obsession with Air seems a little extreme, but I can relate, it was an amazing series.

Jun 16, 2010 3:44 PM
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I'm currently watching Clannad, I still don't see how can this be better than Angel Beats :/

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I think Angel beats is the best one so far.
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Jun 16, 2010 8:23 PM

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Yeah..the previous works are much more better.
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IMO.

Air is it's own genre, thought I have to say, I don't really get this show, the connection I made with the character is very loose, to the point that I care very little for them. (Partly because I watch After Story prior to this... thus maybe made look short...)

Clannad and Kanon = Same genre. IMO, Clannad win big in this due to Okazaki Tomoya and Furukawa Nagisa as lead. which IMO, made Tsukimiya Ayu and Aizawa Yuuichi look very stale in comparison, Nagisa and Tomoya's romance far surpasses the two.

After Story = a league of it's own. One of the best work ever done.

Angel Beats! = Another genre, I haven't finish, so I can't say whether it'll be great, though I highly doubt it'll be better than After Story, I actually enjoyed this show more than Kanon and Air as of now.

To be complete honest, even Kanon and Clannad felt very different for me... though there are similarity in storyline/style.

Angel Beats actually felt nothing like the previous 4... sure, there is something familiar, but it is not... as strong, in fact it felt quite different. Angel Beats is a comedy with a deeper storyline behind it, while the rest are other way around... and they don't focus as much on comedy... not at all...
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most of you are so negative about every thing

one thing i like about anime is entertaining and interesting

to think of it angel beats dont have the Genre "Romance" it has "Supernatural" [which i like] action and comedy .

so talking about clannad and air compare with angel beats is non sense

P.S i like Angel Beats! art more than Clannad and the others

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Shut up BITCH! Lolololololololololololololololol

Edit: Your anime list sucks


i wont call your list awesome
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P.S i like Angel Beats! art more than Clannad and the others



QFT

I loved the art. The 8th promotional video took my breath away. The only other occasion that this happens is when Kawasumi Mai (Kanon 2006) did her jump slash.
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AirStyles said:
IMO.

Air is it's own genre, thought I have to say, I don't really get this show, the connection I made with the character is very loose, to the point that I care very little for them. (Partly because I watch After Story prior to this... thus maybe made look short...)

Clannad and Kanon = Same genre. IMO, Clannad win big in this due to Okazaki Tomoya and Furukawa Nagisa as lead. which IMO, made Tsukimiya Ayu and Aizawa Yuuichi look very stale in comparison, Nagisa and Tomoya's romance far surpasses the two.


coorect!!
After Story = a league of it's own. One of the best work ever done.

Angel Beats! = Another genre, I haven't finish, so I can't say whether it'll be great, though I highly doubt it'll be better than After Story, I actually enjoyed this show more than Kanon and Air as of now.

To be complete honest, even Kanon and Clannad felt very different for me... though there are similarity in storyline/style.

Angel Beats actually felt nothing like the previous 4... sure, there is something familiar, but it is not... as strong, in fact it felt quite different. Angel Beats is a comedy with a deeper storyline behind it, while the rest are other way around... and they don't focus as much on comedy... not at all...
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AirStyles said:
IMO.

Air is it's own genre, thought I have to say, I don't really get this show, the connection I made with the character is very loose, to the point that I care very little for them. (Partly because I watch After Story prior to this... thus maybe made look short...)

Clannad and Kanon = Same genre. IMO, Clannad win big in this due to Okazaki Tomoya and Furukawa Nagisa as lead. which IMO, made Tsukimiya Ayu and Aizawa Yuuichi look very stale in comparison, Nagisa and Tomoya's romance far surpasses the two.

After Story = a league of it's own. One of the best work ever done.

Angel Beats! = Another genre, I haven't finish, so I can't say whether it'll be great, though I highly doubt it'll be better than After Story, I actually enjoyed this show more than Kanon and Air as of now.

To be complete honest, even Kanon and Clannad felt very different for me... though there are similarity in storyline/style.


i couldn't have said it better :p
but come on Angel Beats is awesome :D
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I was kidding with that Eternal_Shield ^^

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Clannad > Kanon >/= Air > Angel beats! imo.
They're all very good though.

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I'm currently watching Clannad, I still don't see how can this be better than Angel Beats :/


You'll probably see how good it is in after story.
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Air > Clannad ~After Story~ > Angel Beats! > Clannad > Kanon '06

This is of course assuming that Maeda has a decent end for Angel Beats written. Hopefully something less jarring than After Story.
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Mars of Destruction > Everything

Guys seriously!

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Lucjan said:
Mars of Destruction > Everything

Guys seriously!


I know eh, MoD really takes the cake at being the "isn't as good as the other Key works"
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Lucjan said:
Mars of Destruction > Everything

Guys seriously!
i troll u xddxdXDXD
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Tecu said:
Clannad is pretty much the definition of awesome
Kanon is amazing
Air I haven't seen but should be alright
Angel Beats! fucking sucks


I think you're mistaking the show for drama... It's a comedy... with drama background...
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because it wasnt kyoani.
i still love angel beats though.
really hope little busters is another key-kyoani project, and really soon.
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angel doesnt fucking suck.
go disappear.
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Tecu said:
AirStyles said:
Tecu said:
Clannad is pretty much the definition of awesome
Kanon is amazing
Air I haven't seen but should be alright
Angel Beats! fucking sucks


I think you're mistaking the show for drama... It's a comedy... with drama background...


I think I have seen every episode until now and I know what's going on.

When I first started watching Angel Beats!, I wasn't even aware of the fact it was from the same crew as the 2 I prefer to it. It's just that even as a comedy series, it fails to amuse me to any extent and sucks horribly.


well you think its horrible , i think its great but we are not forcing you to like it

i bet you dont got any sense of humor xD [just joking]

you like clannad cos its filled with drama [like those Korean dramas] and Romance =D
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Angel Beats is completely different to Clannad, Kanon and Air. You shouldn't bunch them together, even tho they are both by Key and both have the same Key-drama style. Angel Beats is good, but if they spread out everything they wanted to do over say 24 eps instead of cramming it all into 13 i think it could've been much better.
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Angel Beats is completely different to Clannad, Kanon and Air. You shouldn't bunch them together, even tho they are both by Key and both have the same Key-drama style. Angel Beats is good, but if they spread out everything they wanted to do over say 24 eps instead of cramming it all into 13 i think it could've been much better.


that what i was trying to say

they are comparing a supernatural action anime with fantasy romance anime and saying
angel beats dont have plot , dont know whats going on [lack of logic xD Joking] , some might say angel beats dont have a romance scene [its keys work but that doesnt mean that it must have romance in it ]
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I think Jun is tackling something different from his "usual" work, thus Angel Beats!

I remember he once claim that he highly doubt he'll ever write anything as good as ~After Story~ again. The dude's still young...
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Sure I consider myself the unofficial Angel Beats admin, but god damn, people think this is incredible?

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