yes well conspiracy conspiracy.... |
| Honestly with all the crazy things happening around the world especially recently i have no idea how there can be any thoughtful individual who's not a 'conspiracy theorist'. |
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| Aspartame always tasted terrible to me and made me feel even more awful, so my body naturally rejected it anyway. |
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| Why is it that Republicans are always the ones that create these strange strange plots. Like Prescott Bush tried to take over the USA, the Rockefellers created the New World Order, Bush SR killed JFK and Bush JR caused 9/11, and Donald Rumsfeld caused aspartame to be a thing. |
Mao said: If you have to shit, shit! If you have to fart, fart!  |
| I don't see how's that a win for conspiracy theorists, though. I've been avoiding diet soda like the plague, and I even thought it's common sense at this point. If you are waiting for the China's Health Organization to publicly announce that something is bad before you stop doing or consuming it, then you probably won't live long anyway. A daily reminder that there was once a deadly virus for which they've waited for it to spread to multiple countries before they said human-to-human transmission is possible, and to a hundred more countries before they declared it a pandemic, and their "director-general" is a former far-left extremist with no medical background and questionable political history and human rights violation record. |
| That would be from scientists not conspiracy theorists. It's not even a conspiracy theorist thing, you're confusing them for the sorts of health nut trend people that are just avoidant of or gravitate to certain things by default even if the evidence is poor so it's a crapshoot. This isnt even anything new either. |
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| It's also the Republicans that declare they "knew" something was true post hoc when they were probably accusing health nuts of being hippies or leftists. The truth is there were bits of evidence against various sugar alternatives for a while. Also, believing something without evidence is insane, even if you lucked out and it turns out to be true. That doesn't really apply here but in general. That's what I call "Biblical prophesy wishful thinking". You have all these quacks come out with a million crackpot theories and when some element of one has some semblance of truth in later evidence, all of the quacks collectively tell you, "I told you so." Nice try, but we're actually paying attention. The correct path is to admit when you don't know something, approach it with trepidation, and not assert wild conspiracy theories. |
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Dawizz said: Aspartame, used in products from Coca-Cola diet sodas to Mars' Extra chewing gum and some Snapple drinks, will be listed in July as "possibly carcinogenic to humans" for the first time by the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), the World Health Organization's (WHO) cancer research arm Any food that has the word "diet" in it is made up of utter crap! If you want to diet so bad just drink less coke |
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Dawizz said: Uhh, saccharine has also been thought to be carcinogenic.I would better spoon fed myself saccharine than to drink a single coke can with Aspartame. Well "they weren't" that crazy after all. |
LucifrostJun 30, 2023 8:01 AM
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DigiCat said: The thing is, they don't really want to diet. :/If you want to diet so bad just drink less coke |
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| Glad that i never liked diet cola to begin with. |
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| i rarely eat junk foods like sodas and gums anyway plus they are expensive where i live the reason im fat is because of side effects of medication that made me eat more rice and white bread everyday |
| So... Is it going to be removed or just have a warning label slapped on the cans similar to cigarette packets? I've known aspartame is bad from alternative media for about a decade now, so it's not really a surprise to me. Annoyingly that it's in Pepsi Max though, as that's my favourite soda ever😩 (it's also in a bunch of other stuff too). |
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| I thought that was common knowledge, to be fair I think it is for a lot of people as I’ve always been told to limit sweeteners of any kind but especially aspartame |
Butterfly_White said: Hmm. For most of Coca Cola's history, they used cane sugar. That was before they switched to high fructose corn syrup. In fact, Mexican Coke sold in glass bottles still use cane sugar, which is also why it tastes so much better for anyone who's ever tried it.Well, Coke Cola company has existed since 1892, and their drinks are out there for a long time. It's not surprising, that some people knew about the effects of a sweetener before our time. And their company's history is kinda sketchy too. But neither of these are considered sugar alternatives like sucralose (e.g. Splenda) and aspartame, which are artificially created molecules and have recently been demonstrated to be damaging to your DNA. There are other healthy sugar alternatives such as monk fruit and stevia that haven't been shown to be harmful, but some people are allergic to these, and some people have reported an odd taste since they taste slightly different than what we'd expect from sugar, and also their usage (in cooking) is different e.g. plant-based stevia can't really handle high temperatures. But stevia is 100 times sweeter than sugar and has zero calories, so it's absolutely beneficial to people who are diabetic or trying to lose weight. Sucralose was invented in 1976, and aspartame in 1981, so they definitely haven't been around as long as Coca Cola. |
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katsucats said: Butterfly_White said: Hmm. For most of Coca Cola's history, they used cane sugar. That was before they switched to high fructose corn syrup. In fact, Mexican Coke sold in glass bottles still use cane sugar, which is also why it tastes so much better for anyone who's ever tried it.Well, Coke Cola company has existed since 1892, and their drinks are out there for a long time. It's not surprising, that some people knew about the effects of a sweetener before our time. And their company's history is kinda sketchy too. But neither of these are considered sugar alternatives like sucralose (e.g. Splenda) and aspartame, which are artificially created molecules and have recently been demonstrated to be damaging to your DNA. There are other healthy sugar alternatives such as monk fruit and stevia that haven't been shown to be harmful, but some people are allergic to these, and some people have reported an odd taste since they taste slightly different than what we'd expect from sugar, and also their usage (in cooking) is different e.g. plant-based stevia can't really handle high temperatures. But stevia is 100 times sweeter than sugar and has zero calories, so it's absolutely beneficial to people who are diabetic or trying to lose weight. Sucralose was invented in 1976, and aspartame in 1981, so they definitely haven't been around as long as Coca Cola. There was some limited edition flavoured Coca Cola with cane sugar in glass bottles. Came in raspberry or peach. Raspberry was pretty good. Pepsi also has had a few cane sugar sweetened sodas. Jones Soda as well as other various less known soda brands like Stewarts also have cane sugar too. I heard Coca Cola uses beet sugar in Europe instead of HFCS which I havent had chance to try to see what effect it has on taste if any. I wouldn't say "absolutely beneficial" since stevia and monk fruit seem to be less studied than other sweeteners currently. Stevia and monk fruit usually dont come in pure form they are mixed with erythritol. Erythritol has been shown in one recent study to possibly increase cardiovascular events. And because it's 70% sweetness of sugar it often is the first ingredient making up the bulk of the product. https://time.com/6260092/erythritol-heart-attack-stroke-study/ Some others mix it with dextrose which isnt recommended for diabetics as far as im aware. Im not sure about monk fruit since i havent had it pure but stevia the odd taste is a sort of bitter-sweet aftertaste which is pretty undesirable for a sweetener in most cases but seem it varies by what extract was used so sometimes it doesnt have that aftertaste as bad but that's why it's often mixed with something else to try and mask that aftertaste. I dont know why monk fruit extract is often mixed. You can get them in pure form though but harder to find and more expensive. However it is possible to do a solvent extraction yourself with stevia leaves both water and alcohol work and would produce different flavour profiles from what i can see. Stevioside is only soluble in alcohol unless im mistaken while Rebaudioside A is soluble in both water and alcohol. Alcohol (ethanol i mean of course for safety of if any is left behind) seems to be recommended more because you can evaporate it off at a lower temperature I guess. |
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| No conspiracy theory has ever been proven true. You guys say all kind of absurd things (just look at Covid, "people" first said that it was just a flu, then that the vaccines were more dangerous than the virus, and now they are reduced to pathetic theories about the lab-made virus that was released intentionally... And the OP still rambles today about his "pure blood"), and then say "See I told you so!" when something happens to have a vague resemblance of reality decades later... "Possible carcinogenic" is not a big win and it should only shock the BBC journalists to hear that stuffing ourselves with chemical does not seem like a bright idea. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65754290 Memes are easier to understand than reality. Xavion said: Honestly with all the crazy things happening around the world especially recently i have no idea how there can be any thoughtful individual who's not a 'conspiracy theorist'. No "thoughtful" person can be a conspiracy theorist for it is a clear sign of intellectual laziness if not dementia. |
Meusnier said: No conspiracy theory has ever been proven true. You guys say all kind of absurd things (just look at Covid, "people" first said that it was just a flu, then that the vaccines were more dangerous than the virus, and now they are reduced to pathetic theories about the lab-made virus that was released intentionally... And the OP still rambles today about his "pure blood"), and then say "See I told you so!" when something happens to have a vague resemblance of reality decades later... "Possible carcinogenic" is not a big win and it should only shock the BBC journalists to hear that stuffing ourselves with chemical does not seem like a bright idea. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65754290 Memes are easier to understand than reality. Xavion said: Honestly with all the crazy things happening around the world especially recently i have no idea how there can be any thoughtful individual who's not a 'conspiracy theorist'. No "thoughtful" person can be a conspiracy theorist for it is a clear sign of intellectual laziness if not dementia. Cough cough still "defending the poison", I mean "vaccines" I see. Well on that subject some of us normal folks were right to call them what they really are. An experimental poison & the biggest cash grab in human history. And every day that goes by we are proven right more and more. c-19 unvax here and happy has a clown, had it twice. I've had worst flus on my life. On the other hand, how many healthy young person that took the vax have died from "other complications" that came out of the woodworks? Asking for a friend. Before you say something, I know someone that took the vax and one booster and now he is a shell of his former self. This guy was athletic, fit, killer sense of humor and now .... He isn't doing so great. So stopped already trying to defend big pharma and gov'ts for what they did 3 years ago. The gig is up. |
| Me every time I hear the word "reparations": 🤣🤣🤣 |
| Real conspiracy theorists sweeten their diet with lead acetate like the Romans did. |
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Dawizz said: Meusnier said: No conspiracy theory has ever been proven true. You guys say all kind of absurd things (just look at Covid, "people" first said that it was just a flu, then that the vaccines were more dangerous than the virus, and now they are reduced to pathetic theories about the lab-made virus that was released intentionally... And the OP still rambles today about his "pure blood"), and then say "See I told you so!" when something happens to have a vague resemblance of reality decades later... "Possible carcinogenic" is not a big win and it should only shock the BBC journalists to hear that stuffing ourselves with chemical does not seem like a bright idea. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-65754290 Memes are easier to understand than reality. No "thoughtful" person can be a conspiracy theorist for it is a clear sign of intellectual laziness if not dementia. Cough cough still "defending the poison", I mean "vaccines" I see. Well on that subject some of us normal folks were right to call them what they really are. An experimental poison & the biggest cash grab in human history. And every day that goes by we are proven right more and more. c-19 unvax here and happy has a clown, had it twice. I've had worst flus on my life. On the other hand, how many healthy young person that took the vax have died from "other complications" that came out of the woodworks? Asking for a friend. Before you say something, I know someone that took the vax and one booster and now he is a shell of his former self. This guy was athletic, fit, killer sense of humor and now .... He isn't doing so great. So stopped already trying to defend big pharma and gov'ts for what they did 3 years ago. The gig is up. Interesting question, can you search for peer-reviewed articles yourself or do I have to spoonfeed your kind yet another time? It is not as if you were going to listen to thousands of dedicated researchers (who do research on a real science by the way) or ever took the time to read a single article... Otherwise, you would not have adopted the theses of terminally online Republicans. I hope that you can do better than anecdotal evidence, I have a lot of juicy ones, especially about long Covid that affects or has affected a tremendous amount of people including yours truly. traed said: Real conspiracy theorists sweeten their diet with lead acetate like the Romans did. Best reply so far! |
traed said: Yes, erythritol is only added in stevia for bulk since pure stevia is 100 times sweeter than sugar. Although they are commonly found together, it isn't all that hard to find it pure, and some boba/coffee places that deal with bulk amounts of tea at a time use pure. I ask them specifically. For example, Amazon has it. It's not expensive considering you only have to use a little bit of it. If anything it's harder to measure.katsucats said: Hmm. For most of Coca Cola's history, they used cane sugar. That was before they switched to high fructose corn syrup. In fact, Mexican Coke sold in glass bottles still use cane sugar, which is also why it tastes so much better for anyone who's ever tried it. But neither of these are considered sugar alternatives like sucralose (e.g. Splenda) and aspartame, which are artificially created molecules and have recently been demonstrated to be damaging to your DNA. There are other healthy sugar alternatives such as monk fruit and stevia that haven't been shown to be harmful, but some people are allergic to these, and some people have reported an odd taste since they taste slightly different than what we'd expect from sugar, and also their usage (in cooking) is different e.g. plant-based stevia can't really handle high temperatures. But stevia is 100 times sweeter than sugar and has zero calories, so it's absolutely beneficial to people who are diabetic or trying to lose weight. Sucralose was invented in 1976, and aspartame in 1981, so they definitely haven't been around as long as Coca Cola. There was some limited edition flavoured Coca Cola with cane sugar in glass bottles. Came in raspberry or peach. Raspberry was pretty good. Pepsi also has had a few cane sugar sweetened sodas. Jones Soda as well as other various less known soda brands like Stewarts also have cane sugar too. I heard Coca Cola uses beet sugar in Europe instead of HFCS which I havent had chance to try to see what effect it has on taste if any. I wouldn't say "absolutely beneficial" since stevia and monk fruit seem to be less studied than other sweeteners currently. Stevia and monk fruit usually dont come in pure form they are mixed with erythritol. Erythritol has been shown in one recent study to possibly increase cardiovascular events. And because it's 70% sweetness of sugar it often is the first ingredient making up the bulk of the product. https://time.com/6260092/erythritol-heart-attack-stroke-study/ Some others mix it with dextrose which isnt recommended for diabetics as far as im aware. Im not sure about monk fruit since i havent had it pure but stevia the odd taste is a sort of bitter-sweet aftertaste which is pretty undesirable for a sweetener in most cases but seem it varies by what extract was used so sometimes it doesnt have that aftertaste as bad but that's why it's often mixed with something else to try and mask that aftertaste. I dont know why monk fruit extract is often mixed. You can get them in pure form though but harder to find and more expensive. However it is possible to do a solvent extraction yourself with stevia leaves both water and alcohol work and would produce different flavour profiles from what i can see. Stevioside is only soluble in alcohol unless im mistaken while Rebaudioside A is soluble in both water and alcohol. Alcohol (ethanol i mean of course for safety of if any is left behind) seems to be recommended more because you can evaporate it off at a lower temperature I guess. |
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Meusnier said: No conspiracy theory has ever been proven true. Dozens of conspiracy theories turned out to be true. Here are just a few. Even the simple notion of governments spying on citizens (particularly in certain ways) was at one point considered a conspiracy theory; now it's common knowledge. Many used to think the Mafia was made up. And so on. |
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Meusnier said: It is not as if you were going to listen to thousands of dedicated researchers Dedicated conmen more like... Meusnier said: or ever took the time to read a single article... And poor guy still don't get thet not everything you read in the newspaper is 100% true... |
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| @Dawizz You should stop sharing fake news created by BIG SUGAR. You literally got debucked by Jack Posobiec of all people.  |
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vasipi4946 said: Fine fine You win this time vasipi. Enjoy it while it lasts. Dawizz > vasipi@Dawizz You should stop sharing fake news created by BIG SUGAR. You literally got debucked by Jack Posobiec of all people. |
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| Guys, I think we need more conspiracy theories, because everything we used to believe turned out to be true. Even infamous "gay frogs" turned out to be somewhat true. |
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vasipi4946 said: You should stop sharing fake news created by BIG SUGAR. You literally got debucked by Jack Posobiec of all people That doesn't change that diet foods are worse for you than normal ass sugar |
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DigiCat said: Meusnier said: It is not as if you were going to listen to thousands of dedicated researchers Dedicated conmen more like... Meusnier said: or ever took the time to read a single article... And poor guy still don't get thet not everything you read in the newspaper is 100% true... Who are you to tell? Have you even done a PhD in digimonology? I was obviously speaking about peer-reviewed (scientific) articles, not the Babylon Bee articles that you read like gospels. SmugSatoko said: Meusnier said: No conspiracy theory has ever been proven true. Dozens of conspiracy theories turned out to be true. Here are just a few. Even the simple notion of governments spying on citizens (particularly in certain ways) was at one point considered a conspiracy theory; now it's common knowledge. Many used to think the Mafia was made up. And so on. Of course, I do not expect American liberals to be able to understand this complex topic. Those are terrible examples, and almost all governments have been spying on their citizens through secret police forces since millennia... Organised crime is probably as old (just think about Crusades). Any other awful examples to add or should I define for you what enters into the standard framework of conspiratology? Piromysl said: Guys, I think we need more conspiracy theories, because everything we used to believe turned out to be true. Even infamous "gay frogs" turned out to be somewhat true. Like? Then tell us about the truth about the Flat Earth, the Shoah, the Moon Landing, the assassination of JFK, 9/11 and so on. |
katsucats said: Yes, erythritol is only added in stevia for bulk since pure stevia is 100 times sweeter than sugar. Although they are commonly found together, it isn't all that hard to find it pure, and some boba/coffee places that deal with bulk amounts of tea at a time use pure. I ask them specifically. For example, Amazon has it. It's not expensive considering you only have to use a little bit of it. If anything it's harder to measure. Well yeah Amazon, I meant in stores even the ones that normally carry health food. I suppose though when it's packets I don't see that could be the reason because it's pre-measured quantities so it wouldnt be overused in pure form. Yeah, that's why liquid form is easier you just count a few drops out instead of trying to find an appropriate sized measuring spoon for whatever you are using it with. |
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Meusnier said: Of course, I do not expect American liberals to be able to understand this complex topic. You claim I do not understand, but fail to explain what I do not understand. Maybe you don't understand. Those are terrible examples, and almost all governments have been spying on their citizens through secret police forces since millennia... Organised crime is probably as old (just think about Crusades). I was specifically referring to modern spying (such as phone calls and digital correspondence) and the Mafia, which were both previously considered conspiracy theories. Any other awful examples to add or should I define for you what enters into the standard framework of conspiratology? Did you watch the video? Are you asserting that every one of the things mentioned in it was never a conspiracy theory? (Including Project MKUltra, involving illegal human experimentation conducted by the US government. Or Operation Paperclip, when the US imported scientists from Nazi Germany. These things really happened, but many didn't believe it in the past.) If not, how do you personally define it? |
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SmugSatoko said: Meusnier said: Of course, I do not expect American liberals to be able to understand this complex topic. Those are terrible examples, and almost all governments have been spying on their citizens through secret police forces since millennia... Organised crime is probably as old (just think about Crusades). Any other awful examples to add or should I define for you what enters into the standard framework of conspiratology? Did you watch the video? Are you asserting that every one of the things mentioned in it was never a conspiracy theory? If not, how do you personally define it? I have not, you cannot expect me to watch a 22 minutes long video for your pretty Satokart, can you? Let me check a few ones randomly and see what we get: 17. Wernher Von Braun was a Nazi. He was not exactly a "hidden figure" or his past shrouded in mystery... 2. False justification for war. This one has to be a joke. America crafted a conspiracy theory (like the one about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq) and it was later proven false. Unless people start saying that the conspiracy was that the conspiracy was false? 1. MK-ULTRA. Finally something interesting to analyse. Question: was the general public convinced that the government was developing such a program until the revelations of the New York Times in 1974? I will try to think about a precise definition by tomorrow, it is more than making random guesses or discarding better evidence. thinkpad said: I don't think listen to the WHO, conspiracy theorists are always correcter. As expected, your grammatical skills match your reading comprehension skills. |
Meusnier said: Who are you to tell? Have you even done a PhD in digimonology? I was obviously speaking about peer-reviewed (scientific) articles, not the Babylon Bee articles that you read like gospels PhD in digimonology?? I wish that were a thing! I would've got straight As at it You see, the difference between the Babylon Bee and peer-reviewed articles is: Babylon Bee always = satire (aka you know exactly what you'll get) Peer-reviewes articles don't necessarily = the truth, some will be legitimate, others pure bull shit |
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Matanlinton said: @Meusnier @DigiCat How do you people know babylon bee? I know it cuz i'm in the conservative christian circle, but i've never read it i just hear about others talking about it. Is it actually populor? I think it's actually one of the most popular satire sites |
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DigiCat said: That's conditioned on whether you're susceptible to diabetes, etc., or if you want to lose weight, then adding 200 calories per can of soda to your diet isn't conducive. What the studies point to are that we should limit aspartame intake, not necessarily completely eliminate it. There are a million things in the world that are slightly carcinogenic. Handling doorknobs is probably slightly carcinogenic. Digging soil for gardening may be carcinogenic. Walking alongside a busy street is carcinogenic. It doesn't mean that we shouldn't do all these things or that the risk always outweighs the benefits.vasipi4946 said: You should stop sharing fake news created by BIG SUGAR. You literally got debucked by Jack Posobiec of all people That doesn't change that diet foods are worse for you than normal ass sugar |
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vasipi4946 said: thats actually kinda funny, i mean that guy believes (or at very least sells) all kinds of crazy shit as well like the Qanon bs an other conspiracy theories one d think have to be inspired by cocaine@Dawizz You should stop sharing fake news created by BIG SUGAR. You literally got debucked by Jack Posobiec of all people. |
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DigiCat said: Meusnier said: Who are you to tell? Have you even done a PhD in digimonology? I was obviously speaking about peer-reviewed (scientific) articles, not the Babylon Bee articles that you read like gospels PhD in digimonology?? I wish that were a thing! I would've got straight As at it You see, the difference between the Babylon Bee and peer-reviewed articles is: Babylon Bee always = satire (aka you know exactly what you'll get) Peer-reviewes articles don't necessarily = the truth, some will be legitimate, others pure bull shit But several articles make a scientific consensus and putting it in question because you saw memes on Twitter does not constitute a very rational behaviour... Matanlinton said: @Meusnier @DigiCat How do you people know babylon bee? I know it cuz i'm in the conservative christian circle, but i've never read it i just hear about others talking about it. Is it actually populor? It is Elon Musk's favourite news outlet, of course it is popular! Or at least it was until yesterday: https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1675318710133747712 |
katsucats said: That's conditioned on whether you're susceptible to diabetes Of course food intake is not a one size fits all, someone with diabities (or at high risk of it) will limit sugar, someone who's lactose intolerant will limit dairy, someone who's allergic to peanuts will avoid peanuts all toghether That doesn't cahnge that these foods are generally good for you under normal sercumstances katsucats said: or if you want to lose weight, then adding 200 calories per can of soda to your diet isn't conducive And sugar being the culprite of putting on weight is a myth, if you eat more calories (of any food) that you can burn off, you will put on weight, same the other way round, to lose weight you eat less calories than you'll burn off Which means if you really want that 200 calory soda while losing weight, you'll have to forgo 200 calories from somewhere else, i'd still not advice always choosing the soda, but there's nothing wrong with doing so once in a while Meusnier said: But several articles make a scientific consensus and putting it in question because you saw memes on Twitter does not constitute a very rational behaviour... Again, scientific consensus does not necessarily = the truth It depends on a lot of things, like for example who's making the consensus? Is it an honest scientist reasearching out of passion? Is it some greedy a-hole looking to make a quick buck? Or who is funding the reasercheres making the consensus? And no it's not twitter memes that makie people question things |
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| So how can they keep selling it if it's cancerous? That's the real question. The sugar ones are rotting your teeth so if you like going to the dentist and feeling pain, there you go. |
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