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May 21, 2010 10:44 PM

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I hate Izaya but I love him at the same time; he's too awesome to hate even though he's such an asshole.
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May 21, 2010 11:30 PM
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did anyone see the baccano character in the background?
she was claire lafoet or something. shes in the background board when anri leaves mikado around 11:45
 
May 22, 2010 12:12 AM
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kaena said:
did anyone see the baccano character in the background?
she was claire lafoet or something. shes in the background board when anri leaves mikado around 11:45


Oh cool, didn't see that one.

I love all the Baccano referances!
 
May 22, 2010 12:52 AM

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Celty is totally traumatized by the traffic police. Its so hilarious and cute at the same time. :D
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May 22, 2010 1:09 AM
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When Anri suddenly say"Arigatou gozaimasu"


That's because she didn't know how to use the private chat, and accidentally said that in the main chat (it was intended for Celty). This (and the fact that both Anri and Celty left the chat immediately after this) became a flag for Mikado and Izaya that She was talking with Celty, which Izaya knew it was about the Slasher incident because he's Izaya.
Hahah "because he is Izaya" ,after Izaya knowing the the relation between them,he will force Mikado to do against them .
Your explanation sound reasonable also,but Izaya grasp the situation before Anri and Celty logout not after they logout.
Did you notice the camera zoom in when celty say"pls stop it,telling such detail to someone that they doesn't even know" and then Izaya said" No No...People in Ikebukoro should know this ^^ "
Izaya trying to pull out who is helping Anri.....since it will be long if I explain,so i kinda lazy to fully explain the reason at all.....you can say this is Izaya mind trick psychology or something.
 
May 22, 2010 1:25 AM

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Izaya probably already hypothesised Celty x Slasher just that that slip up backed it up.
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May 22, 2010 4:16 AM

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Who's subs you guys watching with?

Only seen the live stream so far.


I watched in raw.
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May 22, 2010 4:31 AM

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Awesome scene is awesome.



Again despite what you people say i don't see Izaya doing much. The only reason everyone feels like his manipulating everything is because of his evil smiles and how his presented but the truth is that he doesn't do much. She just answers when his ask something or refuse according to his will. His not out there trying hard to fix things by lies and such.
They could have very well collided with out him. His not manipulating shit. He just puts a little oil in the fire if he can but just a little and mostly he doesn't try to stop it. The fire is already there and his not the one who made her. Izaya didn't make Anri go check on Kida, Izaya didn't call Celty to rescue her, Izaya didn't start the war of blue and yellow gangs, Izaya didn't create the dollars, Izaya had nothing to do with the mad woman that was slashing around people as slasher in place of Anri and hurting her, Izaya never told that creepy teacher to go start molesting female students, Izaya never told Kida to go search revenge for Anri, and i could continue. All this events happened despite Izaya's presents. Actually the only thing that Izaya really is responsible is holding Celty's head.

Izaya isn't manipulating anyone. He just goes with the flow and watches from the shadows. His not a pupetmaster, his a viewer watching the events as an amusement.
If you notice he never told a single lie or created any event by his own. The only thing he did was give selective information but hey, if he didn't exist then they wouldn't get any information ether and that could have let to bloodshed because of conclusions and rumors anyway.
You give the guy too much credit. The only thing his really good at, is keeping his nose out of the direct collision of the events and learning about them.

Anyway the episode was mainly a built up for coming events but it was still good. I'm anxious to see the next already.


kaena said:
did anyone see the baccano character in the background?
she was claire lafoet or something. shes in the background board when anri leaves mikado around 11:45


We kind of got used of them by now and don't mention them much. There is at least one in every episode. That was the mute girl of Baccano right? She was the best female character in the series for me.

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Celty is totally traumatized by the traffic police. Its so hilarious and cute at the same time. :D


Yeah her fear of those cops and Aliens is so amusing. She's really cute when she's scared.
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May 22, 2010 4:38 AM
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They could have very well collided with out him. His not manipulating shit. He just put a little oil in the fire if he can but the fire is already there and his not the one who made her. Izaya didn't make Anri go check on Kida, Izaya didn't call Celty to rescue her, Izaya didn't start the war of blue and yellow gangs, Izaya didn't create the dollars, Izaya had nothing to do with the mad woman that was slashing around people as slasher in place of Anri and hurting her, Izaya never told that creepy teacher to go start molesting female students, Izaya never told Kida to go search revenge for Anri, and i could continue. All this events happened despite Izaya's presents. Actually the only thing that Izaya really is responsible is holding Celty's head.
Its true,izaya didn't do much,but Izaya is the information agent.He contain dangerous information that could harm Ikebukoro.So...you think information alone can't start the war?previous episode give a good example of how information destroy Kida's live.Izaya just "pointing" the direction of a person's needs and wants.
 
May 22, 2010 4:44 AM
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nice episode the end is near though :(
 
 
May 22, 2010 4:57 AM

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I want to watch 20 Now
Too bad i can't !

 
May 22, 2010 4:57 AM

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Monad said:
They could have very well collided with out him. His not manipulating shit. He just put a little oil in the fire if he can but the fire is already there and his not the one who made her. Izaya didn't make Anri go check on Kida, Izaya didn't call Celty to rescue her, Izaya didn't start the war of blue and yellow gangs, Izaya didn't create the dollars, Izaya had nothing to do with the mad woman that was slashing around people as slasher in place of Anri and hurting her, Izaya never told that creepy teacher to go start molesting female students, Izaya never told Kida to go search revenge for Anri, and i could continue. All this events happened despite Izaya's presents. Actually the only thing that Izaya really is responsible is holding Celty's head.
Its true,izaya didn't do much,but Izaya is the information agent.He contain dangerous information that could harm Ikebukoro.So...you think information alone can't start the war?previous episode give a good example of how information destroy Kida's live.Izaya just "pointing" the direction of a person's needs and wants.


From the moment he doesn't spread false information to create events there is no problem if he is holding information. The reason he seems evil is because with the information he has he could really help but he doesn't because he enjoys watching them. His like a sadist that enjoys watching other people torturing others but he doesn't do anything by himself. Well whether he watches or not the other person is still gonna get tortured.
The information he has wouldn't help anyone if he didn't exist ether. For example look at the information he gave Mikato in this episode. They were all truth. Everything he said was truth and he just answered to the questions asked. He just didn't go by himself helping Mikato by telling him his best friend was the leader of the yellow guys.Well with out him Mikato wouldn't have learned that anyway.
And information didn't do anything to Kida's life. Kida destroyed himself and i explained in my post of the previews episode how. It was all his fault. The only thing Izaya did was not answering the phone when it was needed to help. He just helps when he wants for his amusement but his not hurting anyone. His way of hurting is not being there to help or give information to help. But as i said if he didn't exist he wouldn't be there to help ether.
 
May 22, 2010 4:59 AM
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Probably the best episode of Durarara!! as far as script and character developments are concerned. It was simply brilliant even if we could have done without the voice over.

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May 22, 2010 5:15 AM
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Monad said:

And information didn't do anything to Kida's life. Kida destroyed himself and i explained in my post of the previews episode how. It was all his fault. The only thing Izaya did was not answering the phone when it was needed to help. He just helps when he wants for his amusement but his not hurting anyone. His way of hurting is not being there to help or give information to help. But as i said if he didn't exist he wouldn't be there to help ether.

I think you miss the part where Izaya talking to kida in the hospital....Actually he is just repeating kida's action.Did you remember the "God subject" he bring as a metaphor during the conversation?
( i am not paying much attention on last episode's forum.... sorry )
Just like last episode,Izaya is doing the same thing right now....de ja vu right?
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May 22, 2010 5:48 AM

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I guess this is a good episode:)



 
May 22, 2010 6:24 AM

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Izaya is being a jerk, but thats why we all love him :)
I wonder when his sisters are gonna show up?

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May 22, 2010 6:29 AM

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o.o Wow, I hope they figure everything out soon...I'd hate to see Izaya's wonderful war plans come to fruition. I wonder if someone dies in the end o.o

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May 22, 2010 6:45 AM

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The story is becoming more and more interesting !
It'll be a hoT ending ...the war might start ...but i wonder what will happen when the leader of the dollars will met the one of the yellow scarves ! LOL
 
 
May 22, 2010 7:48 AM

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Ha, so now Celty actually have all the aces knowing all three leader's true identities. Cool. Awesome episode as always.
 
May 22, 2010 8:04 AM

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No Shizuo...

 
May 22, 2010 8:20 AM
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Durarara is overrated
 
May 22, 2010 8:26 AM
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Not as good episode as the last, but I loved it nonetheless

Random thoughts on the episode
-Loved the part with Celty mentioning how scared of the cop she was
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-I am starting to dislike Izaya more and more, especially how he is manipulating poor Mikado to the shadows! I hope Mikado does not end up like Kida
-Finally Kida tried to get some advice! This might lessen the chances of the war a little.
 
 
May 22, 2010 8:54 AM

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Yay, that was cool. Kida looked so badass with that smile and talk he was giving to Celty. That bastard Izaya just keeps messing with kid's heads.I also find it funny how people are actually saying Izaya has hardly done anything wrong.

 
May 22, 2010 9:01 AM

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Love how Izaya is toying with them.
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May 22, 2010 9:03 AM

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When Saika(Anri) entered the chat, I found it funny when she said "Good evening" just like that.
Loved Izaya's smile when he was chatting. Pure evil.
I was impressed when Anri used the Slasher network to get information. Celty rescue was awesome as well as Anri pulling out Saika to deflect that pipe.
Now have a real misunderstanding about the Dolars and Slasher. And some secrets of the Yellow Scarves appear. We have an overlap of members in this war it seems. Wonder where their loyalties lie in the end.

Awesome episode. Building up the story for the finale, only 5 more episodes =( Still, we have a lot of characters missing, like Shinra, his father, Harima Mika, Seiji Yagiri and also the people shown at the OP, like Shizuo's brother, the policeman and Tom Tanaka. Hope they participate in the happenings.

Next episode, Dotachin and Erika removes their hats and Walker opens his eyes again. Something big and exciting may happen here. Can't wait for the next episode. But what was up with the person wearing the mouse costume in the preview XD
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May 22, 2010 9:21 AM

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This is getting irritating. Anri just made matters worse

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May 22, 2010 9:33 AM

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This is getting irritating. Anri just made matters worse


I agree.
This episode was a waste. They should start the war thing already.

If the ending is a big let down...I don't even want to think about it. We only have 5 episodes left.
 
 
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This is getting irritating. Anri just made matters worse


I agree.
This episode was a waste. They should start the war thing already.

If the ending is a big let down...I don't even want to think about it. We only have 5 episodes left.

I think this episode was needed because there is no point starting the war already. It would become too dragged, as you said we still have 5 episodes.

Personally I still think this is awsome~~
 
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k0k0 said:
greenmush said:
This is getting irritating. Anri just made matters worse


I agree.
This episode was a waste. They should start the war thing already.

If the ending is a big let down...I don't even want to think about it. We only have 5 episodes left.

I think this episode was needed because there is no point starting the war already. It would become too dragged, as you said we still have 5 episodes.

Personally I still think this is awsome~~


Well ofcourse, you're entitled to your opinion. No episode of DRR can be bad. Just that more could've been done in this one....or perhaps it's me raging over not enough Shizuo.
I just want it to end right. I don't want some big-ass cliff hanger. The fact that only 5 episodes are left is really making me hyper now.
 
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k0k0 said:
sayami said:
k0k0 said:
greenmush said:
This is getting irritating. Anri just made matters worse


I agree.
This episode was a waste. They should start the war thing already.

If the ending is a big let down...I don't even want to think about it. We only have 5 episodes left.

I think this episode was needed because there is no point starting the war already. It would become too dragged, as you said we still have 5 episodes.

Personally I still think this is awsome~~


Well ofcourse, you're entitled to your opinion. No episode of DRR can be bad. Just that more could've been done in this one....or perhaps it's me raging over not enough Shizuo.
I just want it to end right. I don't want some big-ass cliff hanger. The fact that only 5 episodes are left is really making me hyper now.


Don't worry too much about that, there's a solid conclusion despite some loose ends that tie into the later novels. 5 episode should be enough to fit it in. :)
 
May 22, 2010 1:43 PM

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I'm starting to like Kida more than Izaya.
 
May 22, 2010 2:25 PM

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Don't worry too much about that, there's a solid conclusion despite some loose ends that tie into the later novels. 5 episode should be enough to fit it in. :)


Well. I think in the anime it might appear like there were more loose ends, because they made characters seem more important than they actually are during the first 3 volumes.
Many things should have been either much more brief or left out entirely...but who knows, maybe they have a 2nd season planned. I honestly don't know how well it went in terms of viewers.

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Still, we have a lot of characters missing, like Shinra, his father, Harima Mika, Seiji Yagiri and also the people shown at the OP, like Shizuo's brother, the policeman and Tom Tanaka. Hope they participate in the happenings.

Many of them won't play a huge role during this arc.
It's what I hinted at above, that the anime built up such huge expectations regarding minor characters even though they don't actually play any major role during the first 3 arcs...

For me this is the one point that the anime adaption truly failed at and why it often seems a bit disconnected in itself.
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Don't worry too much about that, there's a solid conclusion despite some loose ends that tie into the later novels. 5 episode should be enough to fit it in. :)


I really hope you're right buddy.

A second season would be great...but I want them to tie up the first one nicely. Hope they don't pull a giant Geass cliff hanger on us.
 
May 22, 2010 2:44 PM
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Holy shit, :D Drrr soon done
 
May 22, 2010 2:55 PM

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Holy shit, :D Drrr soon done


I know!!! I'm gonna be absolutely devastated!!! X'O
 
May 22, 2010 3:11 PM

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I'm going to miss this series when it ends. ;_;

Epic episode.
 
May 22, 2010 4:54 PM

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Baaah, only 5 episodes left.... I'm gonna be so sad. ; v ;

As others have said, I have a love/hate relationship with Izaya. I love because he's an asshole and I hate him because he's an asshole. wat

Good episode, though. C: Sorry, but the inner fangirl must speak out for a moment - Kida was so hot in thiisss. ; A ;
 
 
May 22, 2010 5:21 PM

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It's getting dull :|

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May 22, 2010 6:38 PM

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May 22, 2010 6:45 PM
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meh i think that was the worst ep so far ;_;
 
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I agree with Wasabi. A lot of this mess could have been avoided had Anri grew a pair and told Kida the truth. It would have mostly stopped there. But, they wanted more drama, so whatever.

@Monad
Manipulation is more than just lying. It's knowing the people you're using well enough to know how to get a desired outcome. Izaya wants a war, thinking he'll be all powerful having a fully restored Celty at his side, so anything he can do to make that happen, he will: be it making Masaomi feel horribly guilty about what's-her-face during the Yellow/Blue War, not telling Anri, Masomi, and Mikado about each other, not telling Celty he has her head, etc. Does Izaya outright lie? No. But you don't really need to when you know everything. Instead, you can tell half-truths, and refuse to give out information. Knowledge is power, and he wields it like no one else in the show.

Pretty good episode. I crack a smile every time Celty gets paranoid about the cops. I didn't like the narration, though.
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Durarara is overrated


Lol, your first post is about how an anime is overrated.
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May 22, 2010 7:30 PM
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Inver said:
Durarara is overrated


Lol, your first post is about how an anime is overrated.
HAHAHA I did not notice that,When i saw the word "overrated",I was like "not again....."and I simply just ignore the whole thing including the person who post it.
 
May 22, 2010 7:47 PM

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noteDhero said:
I agree with Wasabi. A lot of this mess could have been avoided had Anri grew a pair and told Kida the truth. It would have mostly stopped there. But, they wanted more drama, so whatever.

About that, call me crazy, but I just don't think it's that easy to casually tell your friends "I'm actually a possessed demon sword who cuts for shits and giggles."
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@Monad
Manipulation is more than just lying. It's knowing the people you're using well enough to know how to get a desired outcome. Izaya [i[wants a war, thinking he'll be all powerful having a fully restored Celty at his side, so anything he can do to make that happen, he will: be it making Masaomi feel horribly guilty about what's-her-face during the Yellow/Blue War, not telling Anri, Masomi, and Mikado about each other, not telling Celty he has her head, etc. Does Izaya outright lie? No. But you don't really need to when you know everything. Instead, you can tell half-truths, and refuse to give out information. Knowledge is power, and he wields it like no one else in the show.

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May 22, 2010 8:24 PM

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Not as exciting as previous episodes, but I did enjoy it. Hopefully these kids can figure out how badly they're being played before Izaya can get his war.
 
May 22, 2010 8:24 PM

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True. It isn't that easy. But she has to be aware of the repercussions of her inaction, and every minute that she doesn't tell the truth is a minute that can drastically negatively impact a lot of bystanders the three of them command.
 
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xDDD Simon.

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I do hope Durarara!! ends nicely, and since it seems quite popular, maybe there's a chance at a second season...

Is there any company doing a translation and publishing the novels in English? I really want to see how the anime compares with the original...
 
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I liked this episode~~! I wonder what Anri's going to do now that she knows Kida's secret. And I too am love/hateing Izaya at the moment.

Though what I'm really wanting to see is what Mikado's going to do with the dollars! Here's me kind of hoping they get more together and organized, but with such a mixed group, that'd be quite the difficult task, huh. This coming war is going to be crraaaaazzyyyyy. xD
 
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awesome ... cant wait to see how this series will advance .


 
 
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Does Izaya outright lie? No. But you don't really need to when you know everything. Instead, you can tell half-truths, and refuse to give out information. Knowledge is power, and he wields it like no one else in the show.
Hahah Ya,actually he did tell lie but to be honest did he tell lie or not is not being told.
but he did confess about himself during episode 18.remember the metaphor he use about the "god subject" he trying to bring.Maybe his word is a bit too confusing,but try replacing the word "God" into "information",then everything will look like as if he is trying to confess himself to Kida,but Kida still don't realize it... ^^
~~knowing Izaya personality doesn't really makes any different anyway.Since noteDhero is almost right anyway.
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