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If you were Rudeus would you had actually done seggs with Eris?
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Hazey036 said:
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Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit.

I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body.....

one of the first lines in the ln is him admitting he skipped his mons funeral to watch uncensored loli porn
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Hazey036 said:
I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible


I don't think boners necessarily mean you are horny at that age. It is at the heart a physiological phenomenon of the blood vessels in your penis dilating or something. Hell, I wake up with morning wood and it is not because I am aroused, and if anything I am bothered by my inability to aim while urinate.

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over 50% deadass voted that they would've done it with eris
damn..
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DinoNo1 said:
Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body?

So since he’s old mentally he can’t do things that are legal ok
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Yeah that always made me uncomfortable. When he's in his Astral form you can clearly see that he's just an old man. I get that there isn't any legal age of consent there but he was also doing weird things to her like groping etc, when she was just 9, I mean that alone is pedo category. Made me really uncomfortable tbh, apart from that almost everything about this show was enjoyable
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Surely, in that situation.

And he was granted a new life, but he should cling to an arbitrary societal and/or legal standard from a world in a different universe or dimension which isn't that one? It makes no sense to me. Even if he was in his own world, modern Japan on Earth, and he was reincarnated into a newborn baby and arrived at that young teenage age again, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. Oh, but he is actually mentally and psychologically older, so therefore it's a bad thing? Hard disagree. Does he intend on mistreating her, like beating her, raping her, locking her in a dungeon or cell, etc.? No? Then the point about age disparities and the avoidance of them being all about harm reduction seems irrelevant and moot. In my view, those hung up on this are just excessively prudish about sexual issues.

It also isn't pedophilia regardless of either his physical and mental age, even if he were 110 years-old, because that has a very specific definition which should actually mean what it says and isn't just about attraction to those below the age of majority threshold, whatever that may be in any random national or subnational jurisdiction according to time and place. If the information in this thread topic is correct and I'm remembering it accurately and she was 13 years-old at the time, that is.

Now, when she was nine and he was doing stuff or just feeling physical attraction, I would say that actually is such (pedophiliac), but that's a different issue.
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It needed to be done I’m mean somebody had to do it
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In general, people really don't like the idea of reincarnation because it provides the perspective of an old person reliving their life in another world. That's how dirty the people's minds are. I might get backlash for this, but I think a lot of people who went into this couldn't stop thinking of the dirty things in life when Reincarnation used to be another way of storytelling that felt unique and fresh to the audience.

The dirty thoughts were put in the front. Rudeus was the embodiment of the dirty thoughts.
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eeew...get some help!!
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I appreciate everyone's willingness to openly admit that they are pedophiles. I'm really proud, the first step is acceptance. Now, it is time for all of you to seek help before you take these urges out on others. If any of you need someone to talk to, I'd be glad to hear you out on all of your sorrows. You can become a better person, I promise.
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As much as I love Rudeus, I would never condone his perverted action
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Nah man, not only is it basically pedo, it’s also grooming (with lots of previous sexual harassment), incest, and a bit inconsiderate of Eris’ mental state to go through with it. Only a bit since she was the one pushing for it, but still.

You’ve even got the teacher student relationship mixed in there too btw. It’s all the flags in one degenerate package lol, def cannot do all that personally. Maybe if you took out the pedo, grooming, and incest parts I’d consider it.
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You are forgetting that majority of anime fans are teenagers
Yeah that is pretty good context to keep in mind

Idk, if that’s true anymore
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Hazey036 said:
I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible


I don't think boners necessarily mean you are horny at that age. It is at the heart a physiological phenomenon of the blood vessels in your penis dilating or something. Hell, I wake up with morning wood and it is not because I am aroused, and if anything I am bothered by my inability to aim while urinate.

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No offense to you, but the reforms passed in Saudi Arabia are really recent. In the United States, it was not as if things were hunky dory after The Civil Rights Act of 1965, immediately or thereafter, even decades later. Societal change rarely ever takes place immediately. If you want to lambaste me in private messaging, I think you are more than warranted. I do not want to derail this topic. :/

you didn't answer anything about my question
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I'm surprised by the vote why wouldn't you?
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DinoNo1 said:
Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body?

Well… wouldn’t he have been a virgin for real even in his old world, no experience and never having a girlfriend?

Yeah his mind is perverted, but can you name a guy that has never had perverted thoughts about some girl that he has met?

He is in a new world with different rules, he is in a new young body with better appearance, plus she completely seduced this guy on purpose, then left him, which crushed him afterwards.

I don’t think he did anything and I feel bad for him.

But he needs to get off his but and become stronger and not just to get over what happened, but to be able to protect those he cares about and loves.
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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I voted yeah, that's all I'm gonna say


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Golden_Cheese said:
Hazey036 said:

I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible
Yeah but your penis isn't fully developed so it doesn't work the same, I'm a kid so I know this. I would give you more details but I don't wanna get banned...

but you could still have sex? it not a question if you can cum just its if you can put it in? that what I got from what they said
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I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body.....

one of the first lines in the ln is him admitting he skipped his mons funeral to watch uncensored loli porn

but we are on about after he died in our world? and he attracted to the maid and she has the same type of body as his mum so I think my point still stand that he would be attracted to his mum if it was just his personality from his previous life but I get where your coming from
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PeripheralVision said:
Hazey036 said:
I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible


I don't think boners necessarily mean you are horny at that age. It is at the heart a physiological phenomenon of the blood vessels in your penis dilating or something. Hell, I wake up with morning wood and it is not because I am aroused, and if anything I am bothered by my inability to aim while urinate.

@_Mehraan_

No offense to you, but the reforms passed in Saudi Arabia are really recent. In the United States, it was not as if things were hunky dory after The Civil Rights Act of 1965, immediately or thereafter, even decades later. Societal change rarely ever takes place immediately. If you want to lambaste me in private messaging, I think you are more than warranted. I do not want to derail this topic. :/

well I'm just going off my own personal experience and I was pretty horny at that age. I use to play doctors and nurses a lot with a few girls on my street and I assume the other part of the reply wasn't for me
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Hazey036 said:
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Yeah but your penis isn't fully developed so it doesn't work the same, I'm a kid so I know this. I would give you more details but I don't wanna get banned...

but you could still have sex? it not a question if you can cum just its if you can put it in? that what I got from what they said
You could put it in but it will hurt, when hard an underdeveloped penis doesn't retract foreskin properly and the penis is soft and delicate and burns like a lot....
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I have no idea tbh. It's a situation that real life logic doesn't apply to, given reincarnation and all.
If you were reincarnated into another world, does that mean morally you would have to abstain from doing anything to people your age until you're 18? Young people have sex all the time.
Then by 18 he'd have the mental age of a 50 year old... would that be morally righteous? You could still make the claim that Rudeus is grooming the young by having a 50-year-old mind but being with 18 year olds in his 18 year old body. Does that mean he'd have to date 50 year old woman for it to be okay, given that he has a 50 year old mind?
I don't really think there's a definite answer. This is a fantasy story after all.
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I'm surprised by the vote why wouldn't you?
To be fair, if a homosexual were to reincarnate in isekai and retain his preferences he probably wouldn't do it. Maybe that's the reason why so many choosing "no" in the poll.
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You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters.

That is not true. If u hv read the LN u would know what he actually does 😊
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Nice loaded question. I dont know since I've never actually been drunk and in that situation before. But then again, I would've never been drunk in the first place since I dont like alcohol so....yea. I would've "pussied" out.

But lets be real here. Most of us would've been filtered out by the first meeting with Eris or by the Teleportation Incident if we were "in Rudeus' body."
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DinoNo1 said:
Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body?

The answer is clear. Unless you are a pedophile. Hell no. He is a “older” man in a childs body, it does not make a difference, there is deceit.

If eris never knows, there is no conflict but my own morals dont even come close to aligning with it (lets just ignore it and look at the good sides of this anime, which is surprising good)



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By an editor. Using the author as some sort of moral compass probably isn't the route you want to take.

As I said, I don't give a shit about "morals" when it comes to fiction.
I am not terminally online.

Yes, because right vs wrong doesnt exist in fiction. You need help.



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As I said, I don't give a shit about "morals" when it comes to fiction.
I am not terminally online.

Yes, because right vs wrong doesnt exist in fiction. You need help.

If you really cannot discern reality from fiction and apply real life morals and standards to vessels used to tell a story, then you either need professional help or just stick to Twitter.

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Even as I was watching the scene leading up to the seggs I was hoping he wouldn’t, given the circumstances It was wildly inappropriate and untimely. In short, no.
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Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body?

Mentally? Why would I spend my life worrying about that? I am mentally mature. That's all I see it as. I don't care about how old I was in my past life, because it's just that. A "past life" I'm not gonna carry my worries from my past life to this one as much as I can help it. Including this view on age. How old is she again?

she is 15 at the end of season and rudy is 12 about to turn 13
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The answer is clear. Unless you are a pedophile. Hell no. He is a “older” man in a childs body, it does not make a difference, there is deceit.

If eris never knows, there is no conflict but my own morals dont even come close to aligning with it (lets just ignore it and look at the good sides of this anime, which is surprising good)
. By the same measure, if Eris was 30 years old and attracted to his mind would it not be pedophilia because he is reincarnated? Yeah right, it totally would be. The position contradicts itself through any scrutiny. This anime reveals just how brain rotted Americans are with their theory of mind.

"But they're so mature for their age" is literally an argument pedophiles make to justify themselves. All you people are arguing for logic that literally enables pedophilia by anchoring to a theory of mind and not body. 

I think you misunderstood my stance. I do not support pedophilia and i wouldnt have done it. I was just making a point that it didnt have conflict in the story and you shouldnt interpret this show in that way



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While he may be a pervert, compared to the horrors that take place in this world, consensual sex between two would-be adults is far from the worst thing that has happened to people in this show (looking at you, animal girl lovers). Sure there's a place for this conversation, but technically, he's a 15 year old boy and she's a 16 year old girl, and she came onto him first. If you were to go to that world and say "no wait he's actually a 34 year old reincarnated NEET!" they'd lock you up in a mental institution.
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To be fair...I think it is understandable, given that the general public opinion on the topic is that pedophiles are irredeemable. So if someone thinks pedophiles are irredeemable, why would we want to watch an anime about it? Imagine if half the apostles got any sort of redemptive arc in Berserk or if Hitler had a manga adaptation on his redemptive arc.

I wouldn't melt down over the fact that someone would attempt to write a alternate fictional history where Ted Bundy has to atone for his crimes, but I would think it is an inherently flawed idea. I...cannot say I like characters like Rudeus having a redemption arc at all, to be honest. This comes from a guy who likes Wataten and Ryuo's Work is Never Done, by the way.

Apostles in Berserk are portrayed as utterly evil, beyond redemption and they serve as antagonists, so it's a poor comparison.
And regarding Hitler, actually Stalin was much worse, yet some people seem to actually praise the guy despite the evil he committed, so that's another nope.
The thing is, Rudeus is not beyond redemption and if you think he is, then that requires serious mental gymnastics and have missed entire point of the story.

And I did not think "Ryuuou no Oshigoto!" is problematic, since MC is literally in the relationship with a girls that is and looks about his age.
So you don't put characters to real life standards but simultaneously we should take the story seriously enough to get a message relatable to real life? How does that work? Also, it's not just a topic about "character bad" it's about the fucking show depicted Rudeus assaulting Eris in the first season as a joke. Check the music in that scene. Look how the camera oogles on eris and how detailed she is drawn. And if he is suposed to change, why is he sleeping with kids?The author and the team behind the anime don't give a shit about it.
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the thing is he used to be a virgin for all his last life and never really known love from the opposite gender now in this life where he is growing up from an infant for almost 13 years do you really think he is going to remember anything about legal and not legal stuff. And if you are really going to place yourself in any characters shoes then try going for Goku and see what the results are .
Why do you always bring up laws? Pedophilia is wrong regardless of laws, did he also forget about how a normal human being should be?
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Apostles in Berserk are portrayed as utterly evil, beyond redemption and they serve as antagonists, so it's a poor comparison.
And regarding Hitler, actually Stalin was much worse, yet some people seem to actually praise the guy despite the evil he committed, so that's another nope.
The thing is, Rudeus is not beyond redemption and if you think he is, then that requires serious mental gymnastics and have missed entire point of the story.

And I did not think "Ryuuou no Oshigoto!" is problematic, since MC is literally in the relationship with a girls that is and looks about his age.
So you don't put characters to real life standards but simultaneously we should take the story seriously enough to get a message relatable to real life? How does that work? Also, it's not just a topic about "character bad" it's about the fucking show depicted Rudeus assaulting Eris in the first season as a joke. Check the music in that scene. Look how the camera oogles on eris and how detailed she is drawn. And if he is suposed to change, why is he sleeping with kids?The author and the team behind the anime don't give a shit about it.
Yes, the author has sexual elements as jokes and fanservice because he's a fan of eroge content. Take it or leave it.

No, he isn't a complete perv because it has anything to do with his character growth, it just suits the author's taste.
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
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the thing is he used to be a virgin for all his last life and never really known love from the opposite gender now in this life where he is growing up from an infant for almost 13 years do you really think he is going to remember anything about legal and not legal stuff. And if you are really going to place yourself in any characters shoes then try going for Goku and see what the results are .
Why do you always bring up laws? Pedophilia is wrong regardless of laws, did he also forget about how a normal human being should be?
It isn't pedophilia just because that world has a lower age of majority, and... he was far from a normal human being to begin with. 
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
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Piromysl said:
You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters.


Late response but, given the mental dialogue we know rudeus has, and given they have not done some oshi no ko bs to explain it away that he is effectively mentally regressing and being forced to act like his age, it's reasonable to assume that he is still a perfect mental capacity of an adult. And I thought that was the whole idea of what made it so easy for him to get cracking and grow his mage abilities as a child, an increased capacity for learning that most 6(?) Year Olds could not manage in that world.
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