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Jun 11, 2023 5:02 AM
#1
| Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body? |
DinoNo1Jun 11, 2023 5:34 AM
-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:10 AM
#2
DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. i think then you will like this season cuz rudeus will be a non perverted protagonist for this part |
Jun 11, 2023 5:11 AM
#3
Nishantt said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. i think then you will like this season cuz rudeus will be a non perverted protagonist for this part Yeah, I am pretty hyped for this season tbh. |
-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:20 AM
#4
| You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:26 AM
#5
DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... |
Jun 11, 2023 5:29 AM
#6
DinoNo1 said: Nishantt said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. i think then you will like this season cuz rudeus will be a non perverted protagonist for this part Yeah, I am pretty hyped for this season tbh. The action going to be good. Isn't this the school Arc part? |
Jun 11, 2023 5:31 AM
#7
Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. |
-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:36 AM
#8
DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact |
Jun 11, 2023 5:36 AM
#9
Piromysl said: The author also had him jerking it to his underage neice and wrote another questionable relationship into the story at the end, so it's less that he doesn't subscribe to it, and more that he doesn't care. You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:38 AM
#10
Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact But here the situation is different as you were a real 13 year old and he was a grown man. It's like saying a working man gets reincarnated, and he decides to give in to temptation. Btw thnx for the opinion. |
-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:40 AM
#11
| It's kind of questionable, I don't know if being in the same state as him I would, but I tend to say yes, I would, and not because I'm a pedophile, but because I'm a virgo who has never done that with a woman. But being the rudeus is more questionable because he was a pedophile who masturbated to a video of his brother's daughter. So I don't blame anyone who calls rudeus a pedophile, since he really is one. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:41 AM
#12
Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: The author also had him jerking it to his underage neice and wrote another questionable relationship into the story at the end, so it's less that he doesn't subscribe to it, and more that he doesn't care. You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. The niece thing was scrapped from the story. And obviously author shouldn't care because he can discern reality from fiction and does not put fictional characters to real life standards. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:43 AM
#13
Piromysl said: By an editor. Using the author as some sort of moral compass probably isn't the route you want to take.Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. The niece thing was scrapped from the story. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:46 AM
#14
Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: By an editor. Using the author as some sort of moral compass probably isn't the route you want to take.Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: The author also had him jerking it to his underage neice and wrote another questionable relationship into the story at the end, so it's less that he doesn't subscribe to it, and more that he doesn't care. You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. The niece thing was scrapped from the story. As I said, I don't give a shit about "morals" when it comes to fiction. I am not terminally online. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:47 AM
#15
DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact But here the situation is different as you were a real 13 year old and he was a grown man. It's like saying a working man gets reincarnated, and he decides to give in to temptation. Btw thnx for the opinion. please read my first reply, I have already said my point on this and it's the body his in affects his mind.... |
Jun 11, 2023 5:50 AM
#16
Piromysl said: You don't give a shit yet still felt it necessary to defend Rudeus and the author...Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: The author also had him jerking it to his underage neice and wrote another questionable relationship into the story at the end, so it's less that he doesn't subscribe to it, and more that he doesn't care. You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. The niece thing was scrapped from the story. As I said, I don't give a shit about "morals" when it comes to fiction. I am not terminally online. |
Jun 11, 2023 5:52 AM
#17
DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact But here the situation is different as you were a real 13 year old and he was a grown man. It's like saying a working man gets reincarnated, and he decides to give in to temptation. Btw thnx for the opinion. Technically, Rudeus even before being Isekai'd was a total immature manchild. If you know his backstory (mostly skipped in the anime) you'll realize that every plight that happened to him was ultimately his fault. So, the only thing antis have to cling is that he was physically an adult? |
Jun 11, 2023 5:54 AM
#18
Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: You don't give a shit yet still felt it necessary to defend Rudeus and the author...Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: By an editor. Using the author as some sort of moral compass probably isn't the route you want to take.Fail_Man_X said: Piromysl said: The author also had him jerking it to his underage neice and wrote another questionable relationship into the story at the end, so it's less that he doesn't subscribe to it, and more that he doesn't care. You should know, that author never subscribed to this "he is an old dude in child's body" bullshit Twitterians like to project and from now on he will never have any questionable interactions with underage characters. The niece thing was scrapped from the story. As I said, I don't give a shit about "morals" when it comes to fiction. I am not terminally online. I don't feel the need to defend the author, because it are haters who are ironically exposing themselves. XD Mushoku Tensei is a perfect way to filter out terminally online Twitterians, who literally cannot discern reality from fiction and are projecting their degeneracies onto others. It's kinda funny to see people who never witnessed any character development completely malding over a fictional character ding something questionable, yet later on will praise someone like Eren for commiting genocide. xd I really think this is a perfect example why we should gatekeep anime very hard. |
PiromyslJun 11, 2023 5:58 AM
Jun 11, 2023 5:58 AM
#19
Piromysl said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact But here the situation is different as you were a real 13 year old and he was a grown man. It's like saying a working man gets reincarnated, and he decides to give in to temptation. Btw thnx for the opinion. Technically, Rudeus even before being Isekai'd was a total immature manchild. If you know his backstory (mostly skipped in the anime) you'll realize that every plight that happened to him was ultimately his fault. So, the only thing antis have to cling is that he was physically an adult? I am not anti by any way. It was just that the scene bugged me a little bit, so I decided to ask people if they felt the same as me. And I definitely know how to separate fiction and reality. For example, in the case of Eren, I support him, but that doesn't make me a mass murderer. I like the anime, and it's characters but I don't think that having an opinion makes me an anti. |
-Tohka is better than Kurumi. You can't change my mind. |
Jun 11, 2023 6:01 AM
#20
DinoNo1 said: Piromysl said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... Yeah, I know that his body affects his mind as well, but he was at the age of 13 when he did the deed. At that age, most of the people are just hitting puberty. And btw here I asked, what would you have done if you were in his body. I lost my v at 13 and I wasn't the only one in my school it was quite common to lost it young and but if the body your in affects your mind then everyone in that situation would probably make the same choice he made cos of that fact But here the situation is different as you were a real 13 year old and he was a grown man. It's like saying a working man gets reincarnated, and he decides to give in to temptation. Btw thnx for the opinion. Technically, Rudeus even before being Isekai'd was a total immature manchild. If you know his backstory (mostly skipped in the anime) you'll realize that every plight that happened to him was ultimately his fault. So, the only thing antis have to cling is that he was physically an adult? I am not anti by any way. It was just that the scene bugged me a little bit, so I decided to ask people if they felt the same as me. And I definitely know how to separate fiction and reality. For example, in the case of Eren, I support him, but that doesn't make me a mass murderer. I like the anime, and it's characters but I don't think that having an opinion makes me an anti. Of course everyone can have their own opinion and feel uncomfortable by it. By no means I made an accusation, but you need to understand. There are a lot of people on Twitter, who literally are malding over a fictional character doing something bad and want to cancel it, yet forget that their likes are public. XD Those people really think that appreciating the role Rudeus plays in the story and his redemption arc makes you some sort of pedo. |
Jun 11, 2023 6:05 AM
#21
DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body? Mentally? Why would I spend my life worrying about that? I am mentally mature. That's all I see it as. I don't care about how old I was in my past life, because it's just that. A "past life" I'm not gonna carry my worries from my past life to this one as much as I can help it. Including this view on age. How old is she again? |
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Jun 11, 2023 6:09 AM
#22
| depends on the context. Am I an 18 year old man like rudeus? Tbf eris is 15 and I'm 15 too so it wouldn't be bad but since your saying if you were rudeus definitely not rudeus is a grown man in a child like body you could make the argument that in that world because of age laws and things its fine but age ≠ morality mentally rudeus is a grown man who already knows what's right and wrong having s*x with your cousin who's 15 years younger than you too is really disgusting. so no Goated show tho |
Jun 11, 2023 6:08 AM
#23
| This season is going to be post nut clarity: and dungeons |
Jun 11, 2023 6:12 AM
#24
| In general, people really don't like the idea of reincarnation because it provides the perspective of an old person reliving their life in another world. That's how dirty the people's minds are. I might get backlash for this, but I think a lot of people who went into this couldn't stop thinking of the dirty things in life when Reincarnation used to be another way of storytelling that felt unique and fresh to the audience. |
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Jun 11, 2023 6:14 AM
#25
Jun 11, 2023 6:16 AM
#26
| those who voted no: 🗿🍷 |
Jun 11, 2023 6:17 AM
#27
| I wouldnt but it was required for the plot progression. But damn |
Jun 11, 2023 6:19 AM
#28
Piromysl said: Of course everyone can have their own opinion and feel uncomfortable by it. By no means I made an accusation, but you need to understand. There are a lot of people on Twitter, who literally are malding over a fictional character doing something bad and want to cancel it, yet forget that their likes are public. XD Those people really think that appreciating the role Rudeus plays in the story and his redemption arc makes you some sort of pedo. To be fair...I think it is understandable, given that the general public opinion on the topic is that pedophiles are irredeemable. So if someone thinks pedophiles are irredeemable, why would we want to watch an anime about it? Imagine if half the apostles got any sort of redemptive arc in Berserk or if Hitler had a manga adaptation on his redemptive arc. I wouldn't melt down over the fact that someone would attempt to write a alternate fictional history where Ted Bundy has to atone for his crimes, but I would think it is an inherently flawed idea. I...cannot say I like characters like Rudeus having a redemption arc at all, to be honest. This comes from a guy who likes Wataten and Ryuo's Work is Never Done, by the way. |
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Jun 11, 2023 6:20 AM
#29
| well if it is me that yes but no wait fucking hell |
Jun 11, 2023 6:30 AM
#30
PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: Of course everyone can have their own opinion and feel uncomfortable by it. By no means I made an accusation, but you need to understand. There are a lot of people on Twitter, who literally are malding over a fictional character doing something bad and want to cancel it, yet forget that their likes are public. XD Those people really think that appreciating the role Rudeus plays in the story and his redemption arc makes you some sort of pedo. To be fair...I think it is understandable, given that the general public opinion on the topic is that pedophiles are irredeemable. So if someone thinks pedophiles are irredeemable, why would we want to watch an anime about it? Imagine if half the apostles got any sort of redemptive arc in Berserk or if Hitler had a manga adaptation on his redemptive arc. I wouldn't melt down over the fact that someone would attempt to write a alternate fictional history where Ted Bundy has to atone for his crimes, but I would think it is an inherently flawed idea. I...cannot say I like characters like Rudeus having a redemption arc at all, to be honest. This comes from a guy who likes Wataten and Ryuo's Work is Never Done, by the way. Apostles in Berserk are portrayed as utterly evil, beyond redemption and they serve as antagonists, so it's a poor comparison. And regarding Hitler, actually Stalin was much worse, yet some people seem to actually praise the guy despite the evil he committed, so that's another nope. The thing is, Rudeus is not beyond redemption and if you think he is, then that requires serious mental gymnastics and have missed entire point of the story. And I did not think "Ryuuou no Oshigoto!" is problematic, since MC is literally in the relationship with a girls that is and looks about his age. |
PiromyslJun 11, 2023 6:42 AM
Jun 11, 2023 6:50 AM
#31
Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. |
PeripheralVisionJun 11, 2023 6:53 AM
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp “Like poking a strange horny animal with a stick” -fleurbleue the incredibly sadistic Québécois |
Jun 11, 2023 6:53 AM
#32
| Of course I would. |
Jun 11, 2023 6:55 AM
#33
PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. Bro literally started talking about politics like this is relevant to discussion. wtf you even on And disabling and blocklisting certain very explicit tags requires literally one push of a button. There is a reason why they are calling themselves those "cute" names like MAPs and shit. And yea, Rudeus is not Hitler or Bundy, because he is not real. That's the entire point lol If you really think that my perspective is "skewed" because I treat fictional characters differently than real life people, then you require serious reality check. |
PiromyslJun 11, 2023 7:03 AM
Jun 11, 2023 7:01 AM
#35
PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. how is this pedophile in the 1st place. Rudeus mind is of 30-40 years not his body, his body is only 13-14 years old and eris is 15 years old.If u talking about pedophile talk about roxy she will be his 2nd wife who is way older than his previous life 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ |
Jun 11, 2023 7:01 AM
#36
ishinashi302 said: yes is a new life who cares yeah that's what I think, he may have his previous life experience but it's still a new life in a new world |
Jun 11, 2023 7:12 AM
#37
Piromysl said: Well yes but actually no. You could write a character who commit actions like genocide or serial murder or rape and try to write a redemption arc for them. Your solid counterpoint was not that Rudeus was fictional and Hitler was a real-life figure, but that Rudeus and his pedophilic actions is not on the same level as mass murder and rape. I agree with you. You made a good point.PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. Bro literally started talking about politics like this is relevant to discussion. wtf you even on And disabling and blocklisting certain very explicit tags requires literally one push of a button. And yea, Rudeus is not Hitler or Bundy, because he is not real. That's the entire point lol If you really think that my perspective is "skewed" because I treat fictional characters differently than real life people, then you require serious reality check. On the other hand, my main point was that:
You might require a serious reality check if you somehow disagree with my first point. It is not a moral judgement, it is an observation of society in general outside of some backward places like Saudi Arabia. Pedophilia is considered bad. Piromysl, do you seriously think that if you went to a public square wearing a sign saying "I am sexually attracted to children" or "I want to fuck kids" is somehow socially acceptable? At best you would be written off as a prankster. At worst, you'd be beaten up and maybe even killed. This is not limited to Twitter leftists. Most people feel this way towards those sexually attracted to children and thinking nothing of it. Saying everyone who dislikes this must be a Twitter feminist does not really work, because pedophilia is almost universally reviled at this point. |
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp “Like poking a strange horny animal with a stick” -fleurbleue the incredibly sadistic Québécois |
Jun 11, 2023 7:20 AM
#38
PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: Well yes but actually no. You could write a character who commit actions like genocide or serial murder or rape and try to write a redemption arc for them. Your solid counterpoint was not that Rudeus was fictional and Hitler was a real-life figure, but that Rudeus and his pedophilic actions is not on the same level as mass murder and rape. I agree with you. You made a good point.PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. Bro literally started talking about politics like this is relevant to discussion. wtf you even on And disabling and blocklisting certain very explicit tags requires literally one push of a button. And yea, Rudeus is not Hitler or Bundy, because he is not real. That's the entire point lol If you really think that my perspective is "skewed" because I treat fictional characters differently than real life people, then you require serious reality check. On the other hand, my main point was that:
You might require a serious reality check if you somehow disagree with my first point. It is not a moral judgement, it is an observation of society in general outside of some backward places like Saudi Arabia. Pedophilia is considered bad. Piromysl, do you seriously think that if you went to a public square wearing a sign saying "I am sexually attracted to children" or "I want to fuck kids" is somehow socially acceptable? At best you would be written off as a prankster. At worst, you'd be beaten up and maybe even killed. This is not limited to Twitter leftists. Most people feel this way towards those sexually attracted to children and thinking nothing of it. Saying everyone who dislikes this must be a Twitter feminist does not really work, because pedophilia is almost universally reviled at this point. Bro, all I said is that Twitter and Instagram allows "MAPs" (literal pedophiles) on their platform and refuses to do bare minimum to remove them. I consider their inaction as complicity. End of story. I may actually give credit to Elon Musk for actually stepping once up when situation got viral, but Instagram and even TikTok are actively housing them. |
Jun 11, 2023 7:33 AM
#39
Piromysl said: I admit, I am confused about your point. I thought you were talking about other users on the platform, not Twitter/Instagram HQ. So is everyone criticizng this series on Twitter an employee of Twitter then?PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. Bro literally started talking about politics like this is relevant to discussion. wtf you even on And disabling and blocklisting certain very explicit tags requires literally one push of a button. And yea, Rudeus is not Hitler or Bundy, because he is not real. That's the entire point lol If you really think that my perspective is "skewed" because I treat fictional characters differently than real life people, then you require serious reality check. On the other hand, my main point was that:
You might require a serious reality check if you somehow disagree with my first point. It is not a moral judgement, it is an observation of society in general outside of some backward places like Saudi Arabia. Pedophilia is considered bad. Piromysl, do you seriously think that if you went to a public square wearing a sign saying "I am sexually attracted to children" or "I want to fuck kids" is somehow socially acceptable? At best you would be written off as a prankster. At worst, you'd be beaten up and maybe even killed. This is not limited to Twitter leftists. Most people feel this way towards those sexually attracted to children and thinking nothing of it. Saying everyone who dislikes this must be a Twitter feminist does not really work, because pedophilia is almost universally reviled at this point. Bro, all I said is that Twitter and Instagram allows "MAPs" (literal pedophiles) on their platform and refuses to do bare minimum to remove them. I consider their inaction as complicity. End of story. I may actually give credit to Elon Musk for actually stepping once up when situation got viral, but Instagram and even TikTok are actively housing them. I mean, I use Myanimelist, and I do not doubt there are many actual and open pedophile operating on this site. I don't think that makes either or us complicit whenever moderation fails to ban these users. I literally don't have the power to ban these users or am interested in hunting their accounts down. I just use the site, end of story. |
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp “Like poking a strange horny animal with a stick” -fleurbleue the incredibly sadistic Québécois |
Jun 11, 2023 7:40 AM
#40
Hazey036 said: Huh? He's always doing pervy shit as a younger child. Also, how would he not be (mentally) an older person in a younger body?DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Jun 11, 2023 7:43 AM
#41
PeripheralVision said: I mean, you're definitely not supposed to take it seriously that he's a pedo, but I guess loli content for fanservice doesn't sound a whole lot better. Piromysl said: Of course everyone can have their own opinion and feel uncomfortable by it. By no means I made an accusation, but you need to understand. There are a lot of people on Twitter, who literally are malding over a fictional character doing something bad and want to cancel it, yet forget that their likes are public. XD Those people really think that appreciating the role Rudeus plays in the story and his redemption arc makes you some sort of pedo. To be fair...I think it is understandable, given that the general public opinion on the topic is that pedophiles are irredeemable. So if someone thinks pedophiles are irredeemable, why would we want to watch an anime about it? Imagine if half the apostles got any sort of redemptive arc in Berserk or if Hitler had a manga adaptation on his redemptive arc. I wouldn't melt down over the fact that someone would attempt to write a alternate fictional history where Ted Bundy has to atone for his crimes, but I would think it is an inherently flawed idea. I...cannot say I like characters like Rudeus having a redemption arc at all, to be honest. This comes from a guy who likes Wataten and Ryuo's Work is Never Done, by the way. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Jun 11, 2023 8:56 AM
#42
DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body? Bro they are what, like 12 and 15? It shouldn't have actually been possible. Man must've hit puberty and finished it in world record time, same with Eris. |
Jun 11, 2023 10:04 AM
#43
PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: Well yes but actually no. You could write a character who commit actions like genocide or serial murder or rape and try to write a redemption arc for them. Your solid counterpoint was not that Rudeus was fictional and Hitler was a real-life figure, but that Rudeus and his pedophilic actions is not on the same level as mass murder and rape. I agree with you. You made a good point.PeripheralVision said: Piromysl said: And I wouldn't say, that society considers pedophiles as "beyond redemption", because both Twitter and Instagram allows ACTUAL ones (yes, really) on their platform and refuses to do anything about it. That's the part where I disagree with you on two points, but you did give me something to think about regarding how to respond.
This is one of the few topics that bridge the political divide between left and right, atheists and religious, so on and so forth. That being unrepentantly sexually attracted to children is not looked favorably upon. Maybe we live in different areas, but I cannot think of a single scenario where I could openly admit to my pedophilia (If I were one, by the way) and I would not be shunned. Maybe in Afghanistan. Now, you could say Rudeus is not beyond redemption because of his pedophilia, however unrepentant it is at the time, and I suppose it would be unfair to say you are a pedophile because of this belief in redemption. He is not Hitler, Ted Bundy, or an apostle. On the other hand, I have to ask where do you live where you believe openly admitting you are a pedophile is not something that would be considered bad? Take a look at Reddit, Instagram, and Twitter, and tell me that if a famous figure like Tom Hanks did not tweet an image of an underage star commenting how hot she was, that there wouldn't be backlash? That it would not go viral? Sorry, but it seems you have a very skewed perspective on the (lack of) social acceptance of pedophilia in the first place. Bro literally started talking about politics like this is relevant to discussion. wtf you even on And disabling and blocklisting certain very explicit tags requires literally one push of a button. And yea, Rudeus is not Hitler or Bundy, because he is not real. That's the entire point lol If you really think that my perspective is "skewed" because I treat fictional characters differently than real life people, then you require serious reality check. On the other hand, my main point was that:
You might require a serious reality check if you somehow disagree with my first point. It is not a moral judgement, it is an observation of society in general outside of some backward places like Saudi Arabia. Pedophilia is considered bad. Piromysl, do you seriously think that if you went to a public square wearing a sign saying "I am sexually attracted to children" or "I want to fuck kids" is somehow socially acceptable? At best you would be written off as a prankster. At worst, you'd be beaten up and maybe even killed. This is not limited to Twitter leftists. Most people feel this way towards those sexually attracted to children and thinking nothing of it. Saying everyone who dislikes this must be a Twitter feminist does not really work, because pedophilia is almost universally reviled at this point. Can you elaborate what do you mean by the , "some 'backward' country like Saudi Arabia" are you here implying that Pe**phi** is acceptable in Islamic countries or in Islam.... if yes then you need to go back and learn actual definitions if no then elaborate what do you mean by that. I'm definitely not going to let someone spit sh** about my ethics and let them get away with it! |
Jun 11, 2023 10:52 AM
#44
LostSpectre said: Hazey036 said: Huh? He's always doing pervy shit as a younger child. Also, how would he not be (mentally) an older person in a younger body?DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... if mim understanding you question right you are saying how is a younger body effecting his mind cos young people don't think about sex or pervy stuff like that? well as a 25 year old when thinking back to when I was a kid like even before I was ten I was mostly always thinking about stuff like that I mean the things all of the l boys in my year 3 class use to say about our teacher(she was the hottest in the school) most boys are like rudy and have been like that since the start of time. now I'm only going off personal experience now but I have lived in 2 different countries and boys were the same on both. and how isn't he an old person in a young person body is cos like I said in my first reply his body effects his mind and then I even gave an example hence why his mum doesn't turn him on if he was he old self why wouldn't she turn him on? |
Hazey036Jun 11, 2023 11:00 AM
Jun 11, 2023 10:55 AM
#45
Golden_Cheese said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body? Bro they are what, like 12 and 15? It shouldn't have actually been possible. Man must've hit puberty and finished it in world record time, same with Eris. I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible |
Jun 11, 2023 11:22 AM
#46
| I don't know why people are saying that this is pedophile behaviour. Like, Rudeus is literally younger, if anyone were to be a pedophile, it would be Eris. People saying that his mental age is higher is dumb because, no one is calling him out on other shit that he does that would be considered as disgusting but all children do. If this were true, being reincarnated would be the worst thing to ever happen because, you would have to waste away so much of your life to do stuff that would be considered immoral if you did them at the age you were in your previous life. But then again, I might be missing something that invalidates my argument. Also if it means that if I was in the position of Rudeus, then it would've been perfectly fine since I am not even thirteen yet, Rudeus is older than me even. Also, to defend Rudeus, his mind has been hugely altered by his body, not that his mental age was any higher than a baby's in his previous life. At this point he's got the mind of a normal child with a higher mental age, the only difference is that he has gone through some shit. |
Suprgamr123Jun 12, 2023 11:24 PM
Jun 11, 2023 11:30 AM
#47
Hazey036 said: Like, he's still (mentally) an old person in a child's body, regardless of whether being a child is impacting him mentally. We all know the real reason he didn't get turned on, despite being pervy towards Zenith, is that a baby getting aroused is maybe a step too far even by anime standards. A normal, well adjusted person, who went through something similar, obviously wouldn't be perving on children, but the author isn't trying to make any sort of statement here, he just likes eroges and lolicon.LostSpectre said: Hazey036 said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. I mean the body he's in affects his feeling this is made 100% clear in the the scene where his mums breastfeeding him where he has no sexaul attraction to her. I mean he would of been turn on when seeing her if he breasts if he's just some old dude in a young body..... if mim understanding you question right you are saying how is a younger body effecting his mind cos young people don't think about sex or pervy stuff like that? well as a 25 year old when thinking back to when I was a kid like even before I was ten I was mostly always thinking about stuff like that I mean the things all of the l boys in my year 3 class use to say about our teacher(she was the hottest in the school) most boys are like rudy and have been like that since the start of time. now I'm only going off personal experience now but I have lived in 2 different countries and boys were the same on both. and how isn't he an old person in a young person body is cos like I said in my first reply his body effects his mind and then I even gave an example hence why his mum doesn't turn him on if he was he old self why wouldn't she turn him on? |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Jun 11, 2023 1:43 PM
#48
| i mean, Rudeus is over 40 mentally, but there's to say that his mind is stuck in that of an highschooler, since he basically stopped living since when he got bullied and became an hikikomori. Now, this doesn't justify him or anything else, but it's like a part of his mind actually is as old as he is in his new body, so it depends on what "if you were him" means, because if it were me with personality and all now it would be yes because I'm around the same age as Eris, even if i don't really like her so i wouldn't have done that anyway, but if it were me but when i will be 40 years old then absolutely not, but if i were "half mature" as Rudeus is then it's more complicated but holy maccheroni how deep does this stupid question goes from my perspective |
Jun 11, 2023 1:56 PM
#49
Hazey036 said: Yeah but your penis isn't fully developed so it doesn't work the same, I'm a kid so I know this. I would give you more details but I don't wanna get banned...Golden_Cheese said: DinoNo1 said: Do you think Rudeus should have done seggs with Eris? I get that she was seducing him a little and he too had little feelings for her, but that was no reason for him to do that as he is pretty old mentally, even if she was past the legal age in that world (I don't think there was some legal age but still). If not for pervertedness of Rudeus, this anime is gold with good world building and powerbalance. He was just a little too perverted for me which diminished my fun a little bit. What would you have done if you were in Rudeus's body? Bro they are what, like 12 and 15? It shouldn't have actually been possible. Man must've hit puberty and finished it in world record time, same with Eris. I could get a boner since I was like 5/6. so I mean it's quite possible |
Jun 11, 2023 2:22 PM
#50
| the thing is he used to be a virgin for all his last life and never really known love from the opposite gender now in this life where he is growing up from an infant for almost 13 years do you really think he is going to remember anything about legal and not legal stuff. And if you are really going to place yourself in any characters shoes then try going for Goku and see what the results are . |
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