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Jun 3, 2023 5:58 AM
#51
Yosakusan said: Ah I can see why you'd compare the two, but you see, the difference between Paul's and Enji's character arcs is that Enji's arc actually kept me engaged and made me see him in a completely new positive light in which I now like him both physically and personality wise, where in Paul's just continually made me hate him even if he's now physically attractive and wish to punch him in the faceThis coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. |
Jun 3, 2023 7:05 AM
#52
| The author want to make the reader feel that way, until it comes to another Turning Point, you guys hate Paul and then you feel bad for him. I also do not like Paul or support what he's doing, but he's a good character writing. Sorry for my bad english. |
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Jun 3, 2023 7:31 AM
#53
ghier said: VanVeleca said: ghier said: Bruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? I think it’s fair not to want spoilers … I have a pretty good idea now of the spoiler and I didn’t want that yeah dude ur in the right here I agree |
Jun 3, 2023 8:44 AM
#54
| he's replying to every fucking comments....lmao this guy has no fucking life |
Jun 3, 2023 8:51 AM
#55
VanVeleca said: space_x_dragon said: I don't wanna hear any hate from someone brain dead enough to put Akame ga Kill in their favorites, you overgrown piece of rotten smegmaRobertsahDHDA said: Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. fax brother..I also bet he/she is a Fatherless American yep a fatherless individual behaviour......so yeah I'm not gonna argue with someone with that amount of stupidity |
Jun 3, 2023 9:39 AM
#56
| Mushoku Tensei using our daily life problem for Rudeus to overcome so he could grow, getting bullied, being hikikomori, depression, distancing yourself from your friends who reached out to you and so on. And Paul is one of the daily life problem that was brought to Mushoku Tensei, that is a parents who expecting more from his kids, because the kids show promise when they were young, and somehow they forgot that they were still a kid or his kid. |
Jun 3, 2023 9:59 AM
#57
VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you |
Jun 3, 2023 10:30 AM
#58
| I think Paul is a piece of shit but I still love his character. His flaws are frankly what make me like him so much. He makes mistakes and pays for them, he cares immensely about his family, and he makes sacrifices for them. After the teleportation incident (and that few seconds before it), you can see that Paul's focus was on Norn and the rest of his family than strictly himself. You can see by the state of him and Norn that she had top priority. He even formed a search party in order to find the rest of his family (under the guise of finding everyone else's). To take anything out of this anime, it is to love your family and do as much as he does to protect them. |
Jun 3, 2023 11:03 AM
#59
VanVeleca said: Yosakusan said: Ah I can see why you'd compare the two, but you see, the difference between Paul's and Enji's character arcs is that Enji's arc actually kept me engaged and made me see him in a completely new positive light in which I now like him both physically and personality wise, where in Paul's just continually made me hate him even if he's now physically attractive and wish to punch him in the faceThis coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. Interesting. My feelings are the complete opposite. I really enjoy Paul's character but despise Endevour. Mainly because Endevour abused and tormented kids, while Paul did horrible things to adults that can cope with his behaviour in a better way than a child. |
Jun 3, 2023 11:28 AM
#60
Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: If you are not ready to hear me say what I want and type what I want on the internet, maybe you should stop breathing.VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you |
Jun 3, 2023 11:28 AM
#61
space_x_dragon said: ???VanVeleca said: space_x_dragon said: RobertsahDHDA said: Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. fax brother..I also bet he/she is a Fatherless American yep a fatherless individual behaviour......so yeah I'm not gonna argue with someone with that amount of stupidity You literally just responded, how is that not arguing? are you being ironic or just stupid on purpose? |
Jun 3, 2023 11:33 AM
#62
Yosakusan said: I guess the difference with Enji is that we got to focus on the Todoroki drama for a loooooooooong time, ever since the tournament arc we've been following little tidbits but after All Might's end we get to see deeper into the family and see what was previously a shallow shitty father character developing into a hollow shell of regret that wishes to not necessarily be forgiven but at the very least make sure his family can live on happily, wheter with or without himVanVeleca said: Yosakusan said: This coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. Interesting. My feelings are the complete opposite. I really enjoy Paul's character but despise Endevour. Mainly because Endevour abused and tormented kids, while Paul did horrible things to adults that can cope with his behaviour in a better way than a child. Whereas with Paul (so far) we get like 2 episodes in the second season where in he and Rudy almost instantly make up due to Rudy's trauma once again resurfacing and not choosing to let go of his anger and continue their relationship. Which made me like Rudy more but kept Paul in the bottom tier for me. |
Jun 3, 2023 11:38 AM
#63
BucketBall said: Wow we had a vastly different interpretation, to me he just came off as pathetic. If anything he deserved more "payment" from his mistakes. It is nice that he at least tried searching for the other members but then once someone shows up he throws a fucking hissy fit, like, didn't he WANT his family to be alive and happy even after being separated? It was just plain pathetic of him to get mad in my opinion.I think Paul is a piece of shit but I still love his character. His flaws are frankly what make me like him so much. He makes mistakes and pays for them, he cares immensely about his family, and he makes sacrifices for them. After the teleportation incident (and that few seconds before it), you can see that Paul's focus was on Norn and the rest of his family than strictly himself. You can see by the state of him and Norn that she had top priority. He even formed a search party in order to find the rest of his family (under the guise of finding everyone else's). To take anything out of this anime, it is to love your family and do as much as he does to protect them. |
Jun 3, 2023 11:41 AM
#64
VanVeleca said: Yosakusan said: I guess the difference with Enji is that we got to focus on the Todoroki drama for a loooooooooong time, ever since the tournament arc we've been following little tidbits but after All Might's end we get to see deeper into the family and see what was previously a shallow shitty father character developing into a hollow shell of regret that wishes to not necessarily be forgiven but at the very least make sure his family can live on happily, wheter with or without himVanVeleca said: Yosakusan said: Ah I can see why you'd compare the two, but you see, the difference between Paul's and Enji's character arcs is that Enji's arc actually kept me engaged and made me see him in a completely new positive light in which I now like him both physically and personality wise, where in Paul's just continually made me hate him even if he's now physically attractive and wish to punch him in the faceThis coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. Interesting. My feelings are the complete opposite. I really enjoy Paul's character but despise Endevour. Mainly because Endevour abused and tormented kids, while Paul did horrible things to adults that can cope with his behaviour in a better way than a child. Whereas with Paul (so far) we get like 2 episodes in the second season where in he and Rudy almost instantly make up due to Rudy's trauma once again resurfacing and not choosing to let go of his anger and continue their relationship. Which made me like Rudy more but kept Paul in the bottom tier for me. Sure. But remember, Paul is the one that took the initiative to apologize and make up with Rudeus. |
Jun 3, 2023 11:48 AM
#65
VanVeleca said: BucketBall said: Wow we had a vastly different interpretation, to me he just came off as pathetic. If anything he deserved more "payment" from his mistakes. It is nice that he at least tried searching for the other members but then once someone shows up he throws a fucking hissy fit, like, didn't he WANT his family to be alive and happy even after being separated? It was just plain pathetic of him to get mad in my opinion.I think Paul is a piece of shit but I still love his character. His flaws are frankly what make me like him so much. He makes mistakes and pays for them, he cares immensely about his family, and he makes sacrifices for them. After the teleportation incident (and that few seconds before it), you can see that Paul's focus was on Norn and the rest of his family than strictly himself. You can see by the state of him and Norn that she had top priority. He even formed a search party in order to find the rest of his family (under the guise of finding everyone else's). To take anything out of this anime, it is to love your family and do as much as he does to protect them. You may be overlooking that Paul had a strong mental of image of Rudy. He believed that he was able to do anything, despite him being only what, like 12? Even Paul realizes that is too much to ask of him and that he had his own difficulties that he had to overcome to even meet him. Also, put yourself in his shoes. You spent a year endlessly searching for your family without a single clue of whether or not they are alive or dead. You find your son, and he starts talking about all the fun he had with a pretty girl during his time on the demon continent while you struggled during that time. Sure, you don't know the full story, but from what he told you, wouldn't you at least be upset because you knew he had at least some ability to search while he was there? |
Jun 3, 2023 2:49 PM
#66
VanVeleca said: Ripperdoc said: I can't speak spanish, dumbassVanVeleca said: ghier said: ey fuck you mang, wah wah wah always whiningBruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? Schnauze Weibstück, was bist du so frech? Nur weil du deine Periode grad am auslaufen hast, heißt es nicht, dass du andere belästigen kannst. Deswegen sterben Männer früher, damit sie im Himmel länger Ruhe haben. Lmao I think you are the dumbass here. I wrote in German smartass, cause in your profile you have set your location to Hamburg, Germany. Whos the dumb one here, little girl? PS: Your little drawings are uglier than my asshole and thats sth. |
RipperdocJun 3, 2023 2:53 PM
Jun 3, 2023 3:21 PM
#67
Ripperdoc said: No puedo hablar ingles, pendejoVanVeleca said: Ripperdoc said: VanVeleca said: ghier said: ey fuck you mang, wah wah wah always whiningBruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? Schnauze Weibstück, was bist du so frech? Nur weil du deine Periode grad am auslaufen hast, heißt es nicht, dass du andere belästigen kannst. Deswegen sterben Männer früher, damit sie im Himmel länger Ruhe haben. Lmao I think you are the dumbass here. I wrote in German smartass, cause in your profile you have set your location to Hamburg, Germany. Whos the dumb one here, little girl? PS: Your little drawings are uglier than my asshole and thats sth. |
Jun 3, 2023 3:57 PM
#68
| He’s not real. Paul Grayrat does not exist, he is but a character in an imaginary parallel world of fantasy where conventional ethics or morals you think of as common sense do not exist. Calm the fuck down and instead of making frivolous posts like this— touch some grass. |
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Jun 3, 2023 4:06 PM
#69
VanVeleca said: BucketBall said: Wow we had a vastly different interpretation, to me he just came off as pathetic. If anything he deserved more "payment" from his mistakes. It is nice that he at least tried searching for the other members but then once someone shows up he throws a fucking hissy fit, like, didn't he WANT his family to be alive and happy even after being separated? It was just plain pathetic of him to get mad in my opinion.I think Paul is a piece of shit but I still love his character. His flaws are frankly what make me like him so much. He makes mistakes and pays for them, he cares immensely about his family, and he makes sacrifices for them. After the teleportation incident (and that few seconds before it), you can see that Paul's focus was on Norn and the rest of his family than strictly himself. You can see by the state of him and Norn that she had top priority. He even formed a search party in order to find the rest of his family (under the guise of finding everyone else's). To take anything out of this anime, it is to love your family and do as much as he does to protect them. its a very complicated situation tho. if it had taken place just days after the seperation paul probably wouldve been very happy and it wouldve played out differently. i dont remember how much time passed exactly but at some point he may have started thinking that some of his family members might not have survived the incident. if any… i actually found it interesting and more realistic that the reunion didnt play out as rudeus planned. paul definitely made many mistakes, dont get me wrong, but it wouldnt be an interesting show let alone drama if nobody made mistakes. you dont have to like him either, but i for one enjoyed watching him trying to become a better person and cant wait to watch the next season |
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Jun 3, 2023 4:41 PM
#70
| Paul was a piece of shit but I’d say he got a redemption in part 2 of season 1 |
Jun 3, 2023 5:08 PM
#71
Kockorzo said: fuck you, get off my dick you overstuffed shit waffleHe’s not real. Paul Grayrat does not exist, he is but a character in an imaginary parallel world of fantasy where conventional ethics or morals you think of as common sense do not exist. Calm the fuck down and instead of making frivolous posts like this— touch some grass. |
Jun 3, 2023 5:16 PM
#72
VanVeleca said: Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: If you are not ready to hear me say what I want and type what I want on the internet, maybe you should stop breathing.VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you You kinda have mental breakdown there. Don't get to overworked just because some character from anime. You should touch grass sometimes |
Jun 3, 2023 9:24 PM
#73
SouthRzVa said: how lol I just rewatched and the mc lied abt itKing_Javon said: It was implied he raped her when they were attending the same school/academy/dojo. Did you not watch the show?Zweifooter said: I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? He didn’t rape her did u not watch the show |
Jun 3, 2023 11:34 PM
#74
| he is not "be created for hate but actually a well written character" straight up sucks. nothing interesting or realistic about him. |
Jun 4, 2023 1:49 AM
#75
Usual_Vermicelli said: You should do me a favor and jump off a bridge sometime.VanVeleca said: Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you You kinda have mental breakdown there. Don't get to overworked just because some character from anime. You should touch grass sometimes |
Jun 4, 2023 8:45 AM
#76
VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh If MAL gave out awards like sports leagues, you’d be the defensive player of the year. You need to relax, other people are entitled to opinions, just like you’re entitled to yours. You made a public post, if you thought that everyone was just going to agree with that, you’ve never been on the internet. Also, please stop coming up with these extravagant responses and insults to people. They’re not insulting, you’re just making yourself look like a dork. |
Jun 4, 2023 10:49 AM
#77
MaseLeo31 said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh If MAL gave out awards like sports leagues, you’d be the defensive player of the year. You need to relax, other people are entitled to opinions, just like you’re entitled to yours. You made a public post, if you thought that everyone was just going to agree with that, you’ve never been on the internet. Also, please stop coming up with these extravagant responses and insults to people. They’re not insulting, you’re just making yourself look like a dork. Omg...I can't believe you called me a dork...that is so mean 🥺 My heart is major shattering rn...I'm gonna cry all day about this...omg... |
Jun 4, 2023 10:51 AM
#78
EmirDuja said: he is not "be created for hate but actually a well written character" straight up sucks. nothing interesting or realistic about him. Yea I agree with you, my thoughts exactly |
Jun 4, 2023 12:21 PM
#79
VanVeleca said: Kockorzo said: fuck you, get off my dick you overstuffed shit waffleHe’s not real. Paul Grayrat does not exist, he is but a character in an imaginary parallel world of fantasy where conventional ethics or morals you think of as common sense do not exist. Calm the fuck down and instead of making frivolous posts like this— touch some grass. How revolting, do you even have a dick? |
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Jun 4, 2023 2:18 PM
#80
VanVeleca said: Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: If you are not ready to hear me say what I want and type what I want on the internet, maybe you should stop breathing.VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you So.... People should let you say what you want and type what you want. But, you will whine when the same people say what they want and type what they want. I'm just gonna drop the same advice, that you gave the other person. Please stop breathing. Thank you. |
Jun 4, 2023 4:57 PM
#81
V1P3R0P said: VanVeleca said: Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you So.... People should let you say what you want and type what you want. But, you will whine when the same people say what they want and type what they want. I'm just gonna drop the same advice, that you gave the other person. Please stop breathing. Thank you. Yup, that's pretty much my law, glad you have enough thinking power left in that toilet stall you call a brain to comprehend that. |
Jun 4, 2023 5:00 PM
#82
Kockorzo said: VanVeleca said: Kockorzo said: He’s not real. Paul Grayrat does not exist, he is but a character in an imaginary parallel world of fantasy where conventional ethics or morals you think of as common sense do not exist. Calm the fuck down and instead of making frivolous posts like this— touch some grass. How revolting, do you even have a dick? No, yet you're still on it |
Jun 4, 2023 6:19 PM
#83
| I didn't really like Paul at first but after reading it and watching This video I understood Paul a lot more and honestly, he's one of the best character imo |
Jun 4, 2023 9:04 PM
#84
VanVeleca said: V1P3R0P said: VanVeleca said: Usual_Vermicelli said: VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you Usual_Vermicelli said: If you are not ready to hear me say what I want and type what I want on the internet, maybe you should stop breathing.VanVeleca said: I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh if you are not ready to take other people view points yet, maybe you should refrain yourself from posting. other people have their own view point, just like you So.... People should let you say what you want and type what you want. But, you will whine when the same people say what they want and type what they want. I'm just gonna drop the same advice, that you gave the other person. Please stop breathing. Thank you. Yup, that's pretty much my law, glad you have enough thinking power left in that toilet stall you call a brain to comprehend that. No shit. Obviously that's your Law. You put your location as Germany💀💀💀 No offense to other Germans out there. This one's..... well, unique and highly resembling a certain someone from the history |
Jun 6, 2023 10:38 AM
#86
VanVeleca said: Kockorzo said: VanVeleca said: Kockorzo said: fuck you, get off my dick you overstuffed shit waffleHe’s not real. Paul Grayrat does not exist, he is but a character in an imaginary parallel world of fantasy where conventional ethics or morals you think of as common sense do not exist. Calm the fuck down and instead of making frivolous posts like this— touch some grass. How revolting, do you even have a dick? No, yet you're still on it For something to be it must exist, what are you rambling on about? |
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Jun 6, 2023 10:51 AM
#88
Jun 6, 2023 3:12 PM
#89
| Lol I’m pretty sure the point of his character is to hate him. Ngl I didn’t read what you typed but I agree with you Paul sucks. I think he was supposed to portray the era he was in that was acceptable to show the growth of protagonist. |
Nov 28, 2023 4:11 PM
#90
VanVeleca said: So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? I've just rewatched S1 and about to watch S2 myself. It bothered me both times I watched S1 to see how much undeserved hate Paul gets. I explained why I think the hate on Paul is underserved in these episode posts: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1970525&id=70208129 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1970525&id=70210476 https://myanimelist.net/forum/?goto=post&topicid=1978917&id=70214853 Basically the anime is making Paul look bad so the reconciliation is a better payoff, and Rudy IS actually mostly wrong because of his character flaws (he has always kind of looked down on Paul since the beginning, and he often weasel argues out of being wrong and taking responsibility. He stops doing both after the reconciliation with Paul), and circumstance of how things played out leading to Rudy and Paul's argument is unfortunate. Not to mention how the story is structured, makes Rudy's wrong perspective look right (he and the audience doesn't know the extent of the damage to his home area) until later on (he and the audience sees how bad it was), but by then it's easy to forget the particulars of Rudy and Paul's argument to see how right Paul was, and how wrong Rudy was. During the argument it's also tricky to pick up the subtle things that indicates what they're thinking and really saying. Paul really does at first think Rudy got his message, but thinks Rudy is not admitting it because Rudy always weasel argues his way out of things. Paul doesn't believe Rudy saying he didn't until after Norm pushes Rudy off of him. Rudy really is weasel arguing, he tries to lie by saying "it's not true" to Paul saying he could have done better, but Rudy couldn't quite say it, and Paul catches that when his eyes narrows. The talk Geese has with Paul looks like it's exposing Paul as being wrong all along, but Paul is only wrong because this argument with Rudy made him come to wrong conclusions, and got him hyper-focused on being upset Rudy was doing nothing to help locating missing family members. Geese only untangled all that to make Paul realize he should just be happy that Rudy was safe. If Rudy hadn't been pushing Paul's buttons like that, and horribly misreading the room (which Rudy does a lot, ie. "I know the man-god!" to the Dragon-God) causing him to tell his tale like a grand adventure, I doubt that argument would have gotten so bad. Further more, while it may be easy to miss or misinterpret, the anime does shows Rudy was wrong, and Rudy does admit he's wrong. His flashback to playing video games with his friend, and freaking out on him is analogous to Rudy being in the wrong with Paul (Paul came back, his friend didn't). During the reconciliation meeting with Paul, Rudy tells the truth that he did find the journey coming back as easy, and that Paul actually has nothing to apologize for. During the next meeting with the Man-God, it's confirmed Rudy didn't truly think of Paul as his father before the reconciliation, and that Rudy has changed now to take responsibility (he was being irresponsible before meeting Paul, not thinking and treating it all as his grand adventure). When Rudy and Eris finally gets home, they see the extent of the damage of the mana calamity and are crushed by the loss it caused, this is like two years after it happened, Paul had it worse experiencing it days after it happened. If Rudy had been acting like how he was acting to Paul during their argument now when Eris got back home, he'd be crucified. Sorry if I'm being so wordy, but the topic at hand is pretty complex as Rudy and Paul are both complex, and the details are subtle. If you rewatch the scenes I reference in the posts and look for the details I point out, they are there. Paul is made to look bad, Paul's criticisms of Rudy is correct, and Rudy does eventually admit fault and changes to fix his faults. |
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