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Jun 2, 2023 12:55 PM
#1
| So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? Let me start off with this, I have not read the WN or LN so perhaps he gets better later on, and due to spoilers I also know what happens to him. But I want to know from people who either read ahead or are anime only like me, isn't he like legitimate a shit dad and person? First off, cheated on his wife who constantly kept up with his lust and on-screen tended to shower him with love. Second off, he is established as having raped Lilia (granted that was before meeting Zenith) but uhhh it's still kinda bad due to...y'know, being rape? Bonus, she was the one he cheated with later on. Third....wow, imagine being upset about the fact that your son is still alive and doing well after a really dangerous event. NOW TO BE FAIR, he had no idea of the details and what exactly happened, meaning he couldn't see all the shit that happened during Rudy', Eris's and Superd's journey but...this fucking dude...after being depressed for so long and worried that his whole family might be dead...has the fucking audacity to get mad that his son is still alive and happy? None of the characters are perfect (which is a good thing) but oh my god I hate Paul's flaws so much, when does he become interesting or at least not such a piece of shit? |
Jun 2, 2023 1:17 PM
#2
| Haven’t read ahead, just an anime fan, but yeah Paul straight up sucks. The kinda character you love to hate, but that’s also the point of the character. You can make an argument against any character in this series, except probably Sylphie. |
JellymansReportJun 3, 2023 5:56 AM
Jun 2, 2023 1:30 PM
#3
| i dont hate him or like him |
Jun 2, 2023 1:39 PM
#4
| I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? |
Jun 2, 2023 1:54 PM
#5
| well, let's not forget that it's lilia who was responsible for the cheating event. she was the one who baited paul by bathing with open doors. she clearly admitted that. but he still took her as a second wife, and zenith aknowledged that. and in paul's defense for being a lusty monster. he was that way before meeting zenith. he would just fuck about anybody. he even fucked his party members (elinalise, ghislaine, lilia and zenith before marring her) also, he never raped anyone, he has some morals at least. zenith married him knowing full well about his lust for women. and the main dish, is his expectations of rudeus. Paul has suffered despair for (iirc) a whole year trying to find his lost family. he couldn't find any clue about none of them. rudy was keeping himself undercover in the demon continent, lilia and aisha were imprisoned by that fatso prince, and zenith... you'll know soon enough. but even still, he did everything he could to find. he even started a search party for every lost person just for the sake of information. he lowered his head to his wife's family that loathed him. but without any use. but a big part of him believed that rudeus would also be searching. because for paul, redus is not just a child, he practically an adult, he views him as one. that's why he believed that his son wouldn't be hanging around all butterflies and shit. so when rudy told him about the happy time he had in the demon continent, paul lost his composure and believed only in what rudy told him forgetting obvious facts. he snapped at him. Paul was shit person, yes. but he still holds his family dear to him. he would go through hell and beyond for them. and you'll soon see that. |
Jun 2, 2023 2:04 PM
#6
Zweifooter said: I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? No in the LN Lilia claims that when they were friends at school when they were younger “she didn’t dislike him” but he had “forced himself on her” |
Jun 2, 2023 2:05 PM
#7
VanVeleca said: So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? Let me start off with this, I have not read the WN or LN so perhaps he gets better later on, and due to spoilers I also know what happens to him. But I want to know from people who either read ahead or are anime only like me, isn't he like legitimate a shit dad and person? First off, cheated on his wife who constantly kept up with his lust and on-screen tended to shower him with love. Second off, he is established as having raped Lilia (granted that was before meeting Zenith) but uhhh it's still kinda bad due to...y'know, being rape? Bonus, she was the one he cheated with later on. Third....wow, imagine being upset about the fact that your son is still alive and doing well after a really dangerous event. NOW TO BE FAIR, he had no idea of the details and what exactly happened, meaning he couldn't see all the shit that happened during Rudy', Eris's and Superd's journey but...this fucking dude...after being depressed for so long and worried that his whole family might be dead...has the fucking audacity to get mad that his son is still alive and happy? None of the characters are perfect (which is a good thing) but oh my god I hate Paul's flaws so much, when does he become interesting or at least not such a piece of shit? I don’t hate Paul but I’m glad Rudy gave him the one-two at their reunion. Totally ridiculous to get upset at Rudy for wanting to share his accomplishments with his Dad. |
Jun 2, 2023 2:06 PM
#8
| Paul is a dope character, he should be on screen more. |
| Anti-aliasing enthusiast |
Jun 2, 2023 2:22 PM
#9
| Bruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? |
Jun 2, 2023 2:23 PM
#10
VanVeleca said: So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? Let me start off with this, I have not read the WN or LN so perhaps he gets better later on, and due to spoilers I also know what happens to him. But I want to know from people who either read ahead or are anime only like me, isn't he like legitimate a shit dad and person? First off, cheated on his wife who constantly kept up with his lust and on-screen tended to shower him with love. Second off, he is established as having raped Lilia (granted that was before meeting Zenith) but uhhh it's still kinda bad due to...y'know, being rape? Bonus, she was the one he cheated with later on. Third....wow, imagine being upset about the fact that your son is still alive and doing well after a really dangerous event. NOW TO BE FAIR, he had no idea of the details and what exactly happened, meaning he couldn't see all the shit that happened during Rudy', Eris's and Superd's journey but...this fucking dude...after being depressed for so long and worried that his whole family might be dead...has the fucking audacity to get mad that his son is still alive and happy? None of the characters are perfect (which is a good thing) but oh my god I hate Paul's flaws so much, when does he become interesting or at least not such a piece of shit? (anime only watcher) everything else your right on except with him and rudeus, he wasn't mad about the fact that he was alive and doing good, it's was the fact that to him rudeus is a mature enough that he thought that rudeus would know to try and find everyone else but when rudeus was only talking about him having a good time at the demon capital and making friends, he saw it as rudeus not doing anything/not caring about everyone else because he didn't have all the info (Paul still isn't a good guy but didn't want you to think he was just mad that his son was doing better than him) |
Jun 2, 2023 2:24 PM
#11
| Some things about him are understandable, but nahhh. I just continuously liked him less and less. |
Jun 2, 2023 2:53 PM
#12
| he is struggling, just like rudeus. doesnt make him a bad person and certainly not a bad character. |
Jun 2, 2023 3:05 PM
#14
ghier said: ey fuck you mang, wah wah wah always whiningBruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? |
Jun 2, 2023 3:39 PM
#15
VanVeleca said: ghier said: ey fuck you mang, wah wah wah always whiningBruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? Schnauze Weibstück, was bist du so frech? Nur weil du deine Periode grad am auslaufen hast, heißt es nicht, dass du andere belästigen kannst. Deswegen sterben Männer früher, damit sie im Himmel länger Ruhe haben. |
RipperdocJun 2, 2023 3:44 PM
Jun 2, 2023 3:59 PM
#16
VanVeleca said: ghier said: ey fuck you mang, wah wah wah always whiningBruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? I think it’s fair not to want spoilers … I have a pretty good idea now of the spoiler and I didn’t want that |
Jun 2, 2023 5:21 PM
#17
| I agree with you i thought he was gonna be a wholsome dad at first but that changed up quick dude is a scumbag |
Jun 2, 2023 5:39 PM
#19
| I've read the LN. The thing that made me think the book is much superior to the anime (I recommend everyone read it) is that it develops a whole new sight about the opinion and thinking of the side characters (such as Paul and Lilia in the 1st book). Not forgoving him for the rape or cheating, but it brings to the reader all the context of what he was thinking, for exemple, when he meeted with Rudeus after the incident (All the emocional charge, etc...). Also, after reading the rest of the novels, not just him, but all the other characters became much more human and likeable, which is why it became my favorite series of books. |
Jun 2, 2023 5:40 PM
#20
| I would've had a bigger issue with him if he was still around. after what happened right after, he's a dead character as far as I'm concerned. he didn't help in the operation to save his daughter and just seems to complain more than anything else. it looks like by the time he actually does something in the story he'll be made irrelevant by Rudy |
Jun 2, 2023 5:44 PM
#21
| I didn’t know about raping Lilia.Well he always kinda felt immature/playboyish himbo.But other flaws were more ignorable(lust and frustration). |
Jun 2, 2023 6:38 PM
#22
Zweifooter said: I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? He didn’t rape her did u not watch the show |
Jun 2, 2023 6:48 PM
#23
King_Javon said: It was implied he raped her when they were attending the same school/academy/dojo. Did you not watch the show?Zweifooter said: I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? He didn’t rape her did u not watch the show |
Jun 2, 2023 6:55 PM
#24
| You are not supposed to relate to him if that's what you are wondering. You should also absolutely not put him the same standards as real life people, because as an fictional character, hexid just a vessel used to tell a story. He is a flawed individual with his own problems end insecurities, which is a good thing. |
PiromyslJun 2, 2023 6:58 PM
Jun 2, 2023 6:55 PM
#25
| I don't hate him, but I know hate him is normal. |
Jun 2, 2023 7:33 PM
#26
ghier said: Bruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? Yeah, dude is an idiot he spoiled that for me. |
Jun 2, 2023 8:37 PM
#27
| I completely agree with the fact that Paul is a horrible person. It's been awhile since I have seen the anime but I recently read the first 2 volumes of the LN and it rekindled my hatred for Paul. I hate him so much, he is a horrible human being, but even though he is a bad father, I realize that he is at least trying his best at being a good dad. Paul is in no way a good father but after reading volume 1 I realized that he is trying his best, and it's not easy to learn how to be a good dad when your child is a reincarnated 34 year old man who can pretty much take care of himself and has the common sense of a fully grown adult. TLDR: Paul is a shit person and I hate him, but he is trying his best at being a dad |
Jun 2, 2023 9:17 PM
#28
| Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. |
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Jun 2, 2023 10:32 PM
#29
| honestly every character being flawed is one of the big reasons the show is good, rudeus is pretty flawed too, I'm still pissed at him for switching up on sulphur like that but it's cool now cause they'll reunite soon probably(don't get me wrong I rly like eris too and do feel for her) |
Jun 2, 2023 11:27 PM
#30
| Are people in this thread really crying at the "spoiler" that *something happens* the paul in the story? Personally i think its quite normal when something happens to a character and would be way more surprised if the story never mentioned paul again |
Jun 3, 2023 1:28 AM
#31
VanVeleca said: So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? Let me start off with this, I have not read the WN or LN so perhaps he gets better later on, and due to spoilers I also know what happens to him. But I want to know from people who either read ahead or are anime only like me, isn't he like legitimate a shit dad and person? First off, cheated on his wife who constantly kept up with his lust and on-screen tended to shower him with love. Second off, he is established as having raped Lilia (granted that was before meeting Zenith) but uhhh it's still kinda bad due to...y'know, being rape? Bonus, she was the one he cheated with later on. Third....wow, imagine being upset about the fact that your son is still alive and doing well after a really dangerous event. NOW TO BE FAIR, he had no idea of the details and what exactly happened, meaning he couldn't see all the shit that happened during Rudy', Eris's and Superd's journey but...this fucking dude...after being depressed for so long and worried that his whole family might be dead...has the fucking audacity to get mad that his son is still alive and happy? None of the characters are perfect (which is a good thing) but oh my god I hate Paul's flaws so much, when does he become interesting or at least not such a piece of shit? a real life phony complaining about a good character.... lmao give me a f-king brake |
Jun 3, 2023 1:30 AM
#32
RobertsahDHDA said: Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. fax brother..I also bet he/she is a Fatherless American |
Jun 3, 2023 2:59 AM
#33
Jun 3, 2023 3:25 AM
#34
Ripperdoc said: I can't speak spanish, dumbassVanVeleca said: ghier said: Bruh, don’t say you know what happens to a character because of spoilers. You’re indicating something happens to them that would be a spoiler. What’s the point in saying it anyway? Schnauze Weibstück, was bist du so frech? Nur weil du deine Periode grad am auslaufen hast, heißt es nicht, dass du andere belästigen kannst. Deswegen sterben Männer früher, damit sie im Himmel länger Ruhe haben. |
Jun 3, 2023 3:35 AM
#35
RobertsahDHDA said: episode 17 was fucking garbage, did you actually symphatize with that shit?Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. aww he made a sad face :( oh man you really should forgive your dad since he made a sad face :( isn't it so sad that his face isn't smiling :( guess Rudy really should forgive him since he apowlogiwed :( worst fucking moment of the show, complete cringe Now it made sense why Rudy forgave him but I as the viewer just wanted to punch Paul in the face |
Jun 3, 2023 3:39 AM
#36
| This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit |
VanVelecaJun 3, 2023 3:44 AM
Jun 3, 2023 3:43 AM
#37
space_x_dragon said: I don't wanna hear any hate from someone brain dead enough to put Akame ga Kill in their favorites, you overgrown piece of rotten smegmaRobertsahDHDA said: Rape? Thats from the LN. Might as well be showing your whole hand with that card drop. Also, you've completely missed the mark on your 3rd point. Reads like you skipped episode 17. You also seem to be projecting pretty hard. Almost like you're offended or fatherless or something. fax brother..I also bet he/she is a Fatherless American |
Jun 3, 2023 3:50 AM
#38
LuckySprayz said: Hmm, I guess I can see your pointI completely agree with the fact that Paul is a horrible person. It's been awhile since I have seen the anime but I recently read the first 2 volumes of the LN and it rekindled my hatred for Paul. I hate him so much, he is a horrible human being, but even though he is a bad father, I realize that he is at least trying his best at being a good dad. Paul is in no way a good father but after reading volume 1 I realized that he is trying his best, and it's not easy to learn how to be a good dad when your child is a reincarnated 34 year old man who can pretty much take care of himself and has the common sense of a fully grown adult. TLDR: Paul is a shit person and I hate him, but he is trying his best at being a dad |
Jun 3, 2023 4:09 AM
#39
VanVeleca said: This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take of literally being upset over fictional character's actions tells me everything I need to know. Just like expecting anyone to care. Seems like the good old "don't like it, don't watch it" advice is applicable here, because you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works. Also, if we are on the standard of ad hominem and calling out people bases on their faves: Way to go to have Wataten in your favorites. An anime, in which a pedophiles adult protagonist is thirsting over an elementy schooler. |
PiromyslJun 3, 2023 4:18 AM
Jun 3, 2023 4:20 AM
#40
Piromysl said: why the fuck are you watching Mushoku Tensei if you're anti lolicon? If you're gonna pull they holier than thou bullshit at least choose to do so over a show where little girls DON'T canonically have sex with the main character, twittardVanVeleca said: This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Seems like the good old "don't like it, don't watch it" advice is applicable here, because you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works. Also, if we are on the standard of ad hominem and calling out people bases on their faves: Way to go to have Wataten in your favorites. An anime, in which a pedophiles adult protagonist is thirsting over an elementy schooler. P.S, check yourself into a mental ward if you want REALISM from FICTION. |
VanVelecaJun 3, 2023 4:27 AM
Jun 3, 2023 4:27 AM
#41
VanVeleca said: Piromysl said: why the fuck are you watching Mushoku Tensei if you're anti lolicon? If you're gonna pull they holier than thou bullshit at least choose to do so over a show where little girls DON'T canonically have sex with the main character, twittardVanVeleca said: This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Seems like the good old "don't like it, don't watch it" advice is applicable here, because you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works. Also, if we are on the standard of ad hominem and calling out people bases on their faves: Way to go to have Wataten in your favorites. An anime, in which a pedophiles adult protagonist is thirsting over an elementy schooler. P.S, check yourself into a mental ward if you want REALISM from FICTION. I'm not "anti lolicon", just putting you to your own standards, hypocrite. You seem to be upset over a character displaying flaws and making mistakes, but then acknowledging them and deciding to be better, but apparently if a character displays reprehensible behavior, doesn't decide to improve themselves, is rewarded for it and everything is played for laughs, then everything is cool and dandy? So, you are either a hypocrite or just can't comprehend the writing more complex than Peppa Pig? |
Jun 3, 2023 4:45 AM
#42
Piromysl said: Sorry, but if you watch a show with a lolicon protag only to complain about loli it already tells me that your opinions don't make sense So I will leave you with a kind reddit gold chungus stranger and a heartfelt KYS <3 VanVeleca said: Piromysl said: VanVeleca said: This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Seems like the good old "don't like it, don't watch it" advice is applicable here, because you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works. Also, if we are on the standard of ad hominem and calling out people bases on their faves: Way to go to have Wataten in your favorites. An anime, in which a pedophiles adult protagonist is thirsting over an elementy schooler. P.S, check yourself into a mental ward if you want REALISM from FICTION. I'm not "anti lolicon", just putting you to your own standards, hypocrite. You seem to be upset over a character displaying flaws and making mistakes, but then acknowledging them and deciding to be better, but apparently if a character displays reprehensible behavior, doesn't decide to improve themselves, is rewarded for it and everything is played for laughs, then everything is cool and dandy? So, you are either a hypocrite or just can't comprehend the writing more complex than Peppa Pig? |
Jun 3, 2023 4:54 AM
#43
VanVeleca said: Piromysl said: Sorry, but if you watch a show with a lolicon protag only to complain about loli it already tells me that your opinions don't make sense So I will leave you with a kind reddit gold chungus stranger and a heartfelt KYS <3 VanVeleca said: Piromysl said: why the fuck are you watching Mushoku Tensei if you're anti lolicon? If you're gonna pull they holier than thou bullshit at least choose to do so over a show where little girls DON'T canonically have sex with the main character, twittardVanVeleca said: This is the worst fucking argument against criticism in media I have ever seen "guyssss the characters ain't real they each have a role to play so the story can go in a certain direction" yeah no shit sherlock, but if the "feature" is annoying I'm gonna call it annoying or even straight up shit Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Seems like the good old "don't like it, don't watch it" advice is applicable here, because you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works. Also, if we are on the standard of ad hominem and calling out people bases on their faves: Way to go to have Wataten in your favorites. An anime, in which a pedophiles adult protagonist is thirsting over an elementy schooler. P.S, check yourself into a mental ward if you want REALISM from FICTION. I'm not "anti lolicon", just putting you to your own standards, hypocrite. You seem to be upset over a character displaying flaws and making mistakes, but then acknowledging them and deciding to be better, but apparently if a character displays reprehensible behavior, doesn't decide to improve themselves, is rewarded for it and everything is played for laughs, then everything is cool and dandy? So, you are either a hypocrite or just can't comprehend the writing more complex than Peppa Pig? So, you started watching a show that has some sort of character complexity and then complain that a character is flawed. And apparently infidelity from side characters is much worse than lolicon protagonist. Ok, then. ☕ |
Jun 3, 2023 4:59 AM
#44
VanVeleca said: So since the new season is coming soon I've rewatched the anime and, well, seriously what the fuck is Paul's problem? Let me start off with this, I have not read the WN or LN so perhaps he gets better later on, and due to spoilers I also know what happens to him. But I want to know from people who either read ahead or are anime only like me, isn't he like legitimate a shit dad and person? First off, cheated on his wife who constantly kept up with his lust and on-screen tended to shower him with love. Second off, he is established as having raped Lilia (granted that was before meeting Zenith) but uhhh it's still kinda bad due to...y'know, being rape? Bonus, she was the one he cheated with later on. Third....wow, imagine being upset about the fact that your son is still alive and doing well after a really dangerous event. NOW TO BE FAIR, he had no idea of the details and what exactly happened, meaning he couldn't see all the shit that happened during Rudy', Eris's and Superd's journey but...this fucking dude...after being depressed for so long and worried that his whole family might be dead...has the fucking audacity to get mad that his son is still alive and happy? None of the characters are perfect (which is a good thing) but oh my god I hate Paul's flaws so much, when does he become interesting or at least not such a piece of shit? well about cheating his wife it's more or less the Greyrat trait and every male member seems to have it (dunno about Luke) and secondly as a LN reader I am telling you if anime doesn't skip contents than people will know about his actions. And the reunion incident let's conclude that he was too drunk and depressed about losing his wife and daughters, he basically never particularly thought Rudi only as his son but more or less as a partner in crime so in short he unconsciously thought that he would return home and moreover Rudeus was with Gyslaine, further he didn't actually saw Rudeus teleporting rather he saw his other family members being disappearing so I think it's normal to be more concerned about them. But the rest is true he was failure as a father |
Jun 3, 2023 5:08 AM
#45
| This coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. |
Jun 3, 2023 5:17 AM
#46
Yosakusan said: This coming from the guy that has Endevour in his favorites. Just thought I'd mention that. Anyway, he forced himself on Lilia when they were 12 and in that day and age he probably was taught to do that since men (especially in his family) were all pretty much rapists in medieval times and I feel like he has learned that that wasn't a proper thing to do since he never did again and chose to abandon his family. Him feeling disappointed for seeing Rudeus happy was adressed in the show and is part of his character development. He admits he was in the wrong, apologizes and grows as a person. He also fixed his lust problem since he abstained from sex until he found his wife, showing the self control and respect for his wife he was able to achieve. Did it take a lot of borderline unforgivable mistakes to get there, yes. But if u can apriciate Endevour's character after what he's done, you should be able to apreciate Paul as a really well written and engaging character as well. Actually, it was even mentioned in the anime, that he did not really raped her, but "forced himself on her", which means he was hitting on her until she consented. Even then she was glad it happened, because the alternative would be to inevitably lose virginity to one of the Ugly Bastards from nobility. She also doesn't seem to mind the presence of her supposed "abuser" and even seduced him later on. This is all covered in the anime, so complaining about it is ludicrous. |
Jun 3, 2023 5:17 AM
#47
Piromysl said: Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Piromysl said: you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works Piromysl said: You sound really mocking. If you didn't, you probably wouldn't be met with hostility. Not that the other person is any less toxic.Imagine that this even needs to be said nowadays: |
Jun 3, 2023 5:26 AM
#48
Skaldi2 said: Piromysl said: Well, you having a conniption over being called out for shit take kinda tells me everything I need to know. Piromysl said: you clearly are not mature enought to see a fictional character displaying those kind of realistic flaws and do not understand how character development works Piromysl said: You sound really mocking. If you didn't, you probably wouldn't be met with hostility. Not that the other person is any less toxic.Imagine that this even needs to be said nowadays: I didn't threw the first rock. Just showing as much respect as I receive. |
Jun 3, 2023 5:48 AM
#49
TokeiSenpai said: Zweifooter said: I thought Paul raping Lillia was a mistranslation? No in the LN Lilia claims that when they were friends at school when they were younger “she didn’t dislike him” but he had “forced himself on her” That could mean something totally different. So kinda vague there and I don’t remember that even being implied in the show but that’s just me. |
Jun 3, 2023 5:54 AM
#50
| I can't believe there are so many people on this earth who disagree with my view points, you should be ashamed of yourselves smh |
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