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Apr 13, 2008 5:28 AM
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Whoa, Tenma is in some deep trouble now. Wonder how he'll get out of that situation.
Also, I thinks it's kind of sad that Grimmer is out of the picture =(
Aug 26, 2008 6:50 PM
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that was just unexpected.......
Dec 28, 2008 2:02 PM
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wow wonder if he gets out of this or has to be detained for a while
Apr 4, 2009 4:41 AM
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I don't know what to think, the suspense is building.
Apr 11, 2009 4:57 PM
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There should be more detectives like Runge in this world... He's really amazing in his work.
Jul 16, 2009 9:48 AM
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When Runge said "take me to your leader" i actually laughed.
Aug 13, 2009 9:15 AM
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Wow they finally caught up with Tenma, wonder what will happen now.
Feb 12, 2010 9:18 AM
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I am now sure that Runge finally got over with his obsession over Tenma. He is chasing Johan now. But I wonder what changed his mind so suddenly. Even logical explanations that Johan exists did not work for him. Why now? Maybe he is just thought up a new strategy to find Tenma? Look for Johan.

The ending was quite obvious. That editor calling the police kind of divulged it. And it is also very obvious that he will be set free after getting that letter from Grimmer.

Didn't like the episode very much. But few things caught my eye.

First of all, Milos seems to be getting better. He is still a bit moody but I really expected him to loose fate in life. But then again, the hug he gave to Grimmer at the end of last episode kind of proved that he was not entirely crushed.

Another thing, was what the editor told Tenma. About Bonaparta. "Monster who fell in love". Could it be a synopsis of what we could expect? If it is true, if Bonaparta really tried to do something like making Johan fall in love, or at least try to do that, it could prove, that Johan was just an experiment of human psychology. He was not created as some kind of weapon, leader, or something like that. Unless they truly thought that love is needed for that kind of person. But that does not make much sense. And if they were unsure, it would count as an experiment.
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Nov 15, 2010 4:38 PM
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hmmm they finally caught tenma took them awhile

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May 18, 2011 3:12 AM

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So Tenma is finally caught?
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May 29, 2011 2:41 PM

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just before the end I was thinking "I don't remember Tenma's name", then the policemen catch him calling his name... O_O
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Feb 16, 2012 10:26 AM

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Bonaparta in that editor's flashback looked a bit like Grimmer. Grimmer is the father of the twins? Convenient amnesia again.
Mar 8, 2012 11:31 PM

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They sure know how to trap Tenma.
Mar 17, 2012 2:14 PM

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omg noooooo
Jun 8, 2012 5:08 AM
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So the Czech police managed to do what the German police couldn't do in years. It'd be ironic if it was Runge that got Tenma out of jail, huh?
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Sep 24, 2012 7:09 PM

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Oh snap, Tenma is soooo boned. And was so close too getting Johan too. Well sucks to be him, although thats been a recurring theme throughout the series.
Dec 18, 2012 3:57 PM

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Many of interesting things happened in this episode.

About Episode:

Lunge was finally getting to Rose Mansion and I believe this Rose mansion has a certain plot line in this story. Also when he went to questioning Suk detective that guy couldn't still give Lunge suspect but it sure helped him. Now that maybe Tenma is not suspect here at all.

That conversation with Kolonel Ranke was interesting when Lunge actually told there is wall that is looking weird. Then I reasoned this wall maybe secret door. And I was right next Lunge asked permission to break that wall and sure he did it. But what was founded there was just a pitch dark room and a picture of Johan's mom. And some blood traces of course too. Interesting part here was also that door was like in some other story book they mentioned. The Door that should never opened. I wonder why?? So finally Lunge will a little by little starts understanding that one of the twins is suspect and that is Johan.

The scene with Grimmer and Tenma was just sad because Grimmer left to Germany to new missions. But we maybe see him again. It was awesome that he had so many evidences that he had collected that will prove that he is innocent.

You just think that when Grimmer left. And boy just fell and hurt his knee. Tenma goes save him but it was a set up for Tenma. Because that old man Tenma talked to tell them where Tenma is.

Now how Tenma is going to get out of this one.

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Jan 29, 2013 12:48 PM

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Tenma looks screwed.

Apr 28, 2013 8:56 AM

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I think Tenma wont be sitting for long. And Runge is coming closer to the truth.
May 6, 2013 1:31 PM

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Dat door and darkness.. things were pretty intense in first half of this ep. And room with picture like that - creepy, it got me shivers.

And Tenma got finally caught... maybe? :)
Aug 21, 2013 9:45 AM
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I was planning on taking a bath after this episode but how can I that ending made me want to watch the next episode right away oh boy I think Lunge will help Tenma out and I think there is something about Tenma's parents they're never actually shown I think they're somewhat connected to what's happening and it's kinda sad to see Grimmer leaves.
Oct 31, 2013 11:47 PM

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wow the suspense is building up!!

first off, Lunge is soo badass, not only was he able to track Suk, but also learned that the Czechoslovakia is running the hospital and how Suk is related to them.

and wow he did the "Monster" hand where Lunge suddenly holds the gun out of the agent without any hesitation.

he even managed to get an audience to Range!!

and wtf Lunge managed to get inside of the mansion even before Tenma and Grimmer.

and wow Lunge has no fear watsoever, he just went inside without any hesitation and didn't feel intimidated despite sensing some bad things inside that door.

he even managed to deduce how many people died at that room

and it was already opened without the handle?

it's kinda careless of Tenma not suspecting the editor that he knows who he is.

and Franz Bonaparta looks alot like Johan!

so he could very be Johan and Anna's real life father!

i wonder if he experimented on Johan or killed his wife on that secret door?

also his story about the Monster falling in love could very well be he and his wife!!

wow so Grimmer is going out now?!? why not asked for helped from his uncle Ranke? i know there's some bad blood between them, but it's better to hide inside of the Czechoslovakia police rather than wander around fearing for you life forever.

i hope we meet Grimmer again someday!!!

wow Tenma is finally caught, lol the police surrounded him out of nowhere like that!!

i can't wait for more episodes!!!
Mar 11, 2014 4:02 AM

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So Tenma is cought a? Let's see what is next.

Mar 18, 2014 2:17 PM

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OH MY GOD NO WHY
Jun 8, 2014 4:27 AM

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Guess this is the end of the bromance for now, hopefully they get to fulfill that promise one day.

Lunge has some pretty big balls with the whole grabbing the gun and actually opening the door.

Pretty lackluster way for Tenma to be caught after all these years.
Nov 13, 2014 6:37 AM

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Temna gaught caught. I guess he'll be out of the scene for a while again.
Dec 21, 2014 10:24 PM

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So Tenma finally gets captured, eh?

Lunge is probably his only way out of this. Hopefully we'll see more of Grimmer in the future.
Feb 19, 2015 3:45 PM

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i think Lunge will help Tenma out. He is so close the truth. And it will be sad to see the Grimmer's sacrifice.
Mar 27, 2015 8:13 PM

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What a lame way to get caught.
Apr 1, 2015 6:11 PM
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Lunge being Lunge xD, digging up dat secrets.

Dat goodbye scene between Grimmer and Tenma tho.

And holy shit, Tenma got caught by helping that random kid >.< damn.
Apr 18, 2015 1:08 PM

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I'm fairly sure that Grimmer isn't out of the picture yet. He has way too much potential as a character.

Also, Tenma's in some deep shit now.
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Aug 9, 2015 9:11 AM

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"If you get any closer, you and I may end up facing an unimaginable experience of true fear." Cut to Lunge breaking down the wall.

5/5
Sep 2, 2015 4:10 AM

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Gonna miss Grimmer :(

Dat ending! Tenma is in trouble 0.0
Sep 7, 2015 8:32 AM

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The suspense is building...
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Sep 25, 2015 10:41 PM
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Haha the most emotion Runge has shown so far is when he was braking down that wall.
Oct 21, 2015 11:12 PM

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Gotta give credit to Lunge, he is really good and he has balls to go through that door...
Wonder how Tenma will get away from this one. Maybe Grimmer will help him? Hard to believe he is out of the picture just like that.
Nov 27, 2015 3:58 PM

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Nice episode... but how dafuq did the police knew where he was so quickly?
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Mar 8, 2016 2:12 AM

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How did Lunge determine that people had been killed in that room? The smell of ethanol? Doesn't really connect.

Perhaps this is trivial, but I found it strange that the door was unlocked. Sure, if you're building a wall in front of the door, you don't really need to lock it. But nobody thinks like that when they're going far enough to build an actual wall.

If Bonaparta and the woman in the painting were the twins' parents, why did the mother not live in the mansion? Clearly, Bonaparta had been around when the twins were growing up, seeing the picture book sketches and all.

Algirdyz said:
The ending was quite obvious. That editor calling the police kind of divulged it. And it is also very obvious that he will be set free after getting that letter from Grimmer.

Tenma and Grimmer were wanted for different crimes. There's no way Grimmer could have fit himself into the things Tenma was wanted for as well.
Apr 28, 2016 1:25 PM
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Tan cerca del objetivo... Convenciendo a mas personas de su inocencia y esto sucede....
Jun 3, 2016 9:53 AM

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Lunge is finally investigating someone else.
Jul 15, 2016 5:43 PM

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Noooo dont go Grimmer
Since they introduced Grimmer the show has gotten a lot better.
Good Episode.
Oct 23, 2016 11:44 AM

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After 50 episodes, Tenma gets caught in another country smh
Jun 14, 2017 5:41 PM

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I feel sorry for Jan I wonder what will his reaction be when he finds out that the Anna he interacted with was really a boy… if he finds out.
Jun 18, 2017 8:43 AM

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Awwww, I don't want to lose Grimmer :(

Good job police! Way to go
"Hey let's surround this suspect with guns pointing at him, surely it won't traumatized the child"
Gotta love police logic
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Jun 21, 2017 10:16 AM

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Two people from the same orphanage. Such a different set of views they have about their life. One made that child hollow, Another filled him with hope again.
Aug 10, 2017 3:41 AM
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o damn 24 episodes to go .-.
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Oct 28, 2017 11:11 AM

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I'm starting to really like Lunge. He was a real badass in this episode. The man has no fear. Johan may finally meet his match.
Aug 9, 2018 10:47 AM

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Wow. So much wise words from Lunge in the beginning. No wonder Lunge is awesome.
And Tenma is finally caught. FINALLY. After 50 episodes.

Let's hope we get a sped up plot. There are only 24 episodes you know.
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Jan 1, 2019 11:17 AM

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Oh shit. Wild guess, Lunge will get behind the truth, accept it and free Tenma. That would be at least a great twist.

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Feb 19, 2019 9:33 AM
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"A door that should NEVER be opened" that's creepy as heck, that room is creepy as heck...Lunge seems to be getting close to some stuff, good stuff. Tenma seems to be in a lot of trouble. Really good episode.
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