| Including its culture, values, traditions, etc. Are there anime that are made for these types? |
| I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
| Check out any stack named "elitist" in interest stacks, or maybe some chinese nationalist animu. |
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| Death Note, Madoka Magicka and Clannad After Story apparently heh |
dertassoFeb 1, 2023 3:05 PM
dertasso said: But they are drizzling with all things Japanese. Death Note, Madoka Magicka and Clannad After Story apparently |
| I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
| The closest thing to that I know is https://myanimelist.net/anime/19135/Kuroi_Ame_ni_Utarete The "people" here are Hiroshima survivors, who have been discriminated and shunned by their fellow Japanese. Nobody wanted to marry, employ or friend them, they were impure. The author of the original work is one of them, and he hates back. And to make it perfect, he puts all his hatred against the people who caused this on top: the Americans. He hates them even more than the Japanese who hate him. This is the most bitter, angry and hateful anime I've seen. And while I can understand where the strong negative emotions come from, it's still too much. |
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| Nihon Chinbotsu 2020 somewhat has a vibe like this. |
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Ahegyao said: I was joking (bc i hate Japan).dertasso said: But they are drizzling with all things Japanese. Death Note, Madoka Magicka and Clannad After Story apparently On a serious note though i'd say all anime that have themes who are mainly disproving arguments, and/or are politically libleft. I'd say Eva, Shimoneta or Kill la kill |
dertassoFeb 1, 2023 1:51 PM
The closest thing to a modern title anyone would likely even take the time to watch these days would be "Welcome to the N.H.K.". It basically trashes the otaku lifestyle, gives a rare insight into some real fallacies of modern Japanese life, and lightly exposes a few things really wrong with modern Japanese culture in general. Although I have never read this there is also "Manga Kenkanryuu" that is an anti-Korean propaganda that specifically shits on Japan-Korea relations. |
ColourWheelFeb 1, 2023 2:19 PM
| Grave of the fireflies and Barefoot Gen. |
| Is not Anime is already very popular in Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore and other South East Asian nations? |
| If you want to reply to my posts, come up with valid arguments instead of ad hominem HIGHER LEVEL THINKERS ONLY |
Azur Lane has Japan in an alliance with Nazi Germany and clearly in a villain role, so that might work for you. Also: |
| Basically anything from World Masterpiece Theatre could be good, since they don't take place in Japan. |
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| Space Dandy, Trigun, Baccano!, FMAB (It fits, I guess?), Monster, Legend Of The Galactic Heroes (for my elitist friends out there, shit so good), 91 Days (personally I dislike it, but it fits your criteria), Made In Abyss (it's fantasy, so it distances itself from Japan somewhat). These are the ones I could think of that escape from japanese-isms. Mind you that since these shows were made in japan (duh), it obviously will have some display of its culture to some degree, even if very minor. However I still think you might get some enjoyment out of these. |
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alexw1020 said: Japan was actually in an alliance with Nazi Germany, and a lot of anime like to mock or diminish that part of their history. After all, the emperor crippled their economy and then made the worst mistake ever and bombed Pearl Harbor.Azur Lane has Japan in an alliance with Nazi Germany and clearly in a villain role, so that might work for you. But as for anime that truly hates on Japan, the concept of Japan, and not just some historical distance away, one could probably find some shitty propagandist Chinese cartoons that are being produced in isolated corners of even the Chinese sphere. You might not consider it "anime", but for someone who hates Japan, I'm not sure why that would even matter. And if anyone ever mocks you with the "Chinese cartoons" thing, they wouldn't be wrong. |
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Gray_Angus said: Really? I've always considered these some kind of a metaphor for an alternate Japan up against a superpower. Nazi Germany when it comes to FMA:B. The Japan part of that might be a bit of a stretch, but LOTGH -- not so much. The Galactic Empire is clearly inspired by some American-European influence, like Brittania in Code Geass. And the Free Planets Alliance would clearly be on the side of a metaphorical space Japan. Probably some Gundam anime like Gundam Seed might be more anti-Japan since it depicts them as a bunch of incompetent bureaucrats, but it's quite easy to infer even there that it just follows the example of many shounen anime in general by demarcating between Japanese youths and the "society". It wouldn't be a stretch to say that the Gundam pilots are some hybrid of Japan, the concept of it if not the geography.FMAB (It fits, I guess?), Legend Of The Galactic Heroes (for my elitist friends out there, shit so good) |
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| basically nearly every ghibli movie fits this |
| Vinland Saga, Attack on Titan, Cowboy Bebop |
| How about non-anime anime like Arcane, Avatar or Cyberpunk Edgerunners? Nothing to with Japan at all. |
| JoJo > Had a foreign protag during the time of "japanese rise" > Had a female protagonist in shonen jump > Filled with western pop cultures references > Weakest enemy is named after a japanese song Try it ig |
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| Gunsmith Cats. It's about some girls running a gun store in Chicago and getting in trouble with the ATF aka a series about the struggles of your average Chicago gun person. It also has Soviet spies. |
| MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST |
| Anything made by Kpreans or Chinese. |
katsucats said: Really? I've always considered these some kind of a metaphor for an alternate Japan up against a superpower. Nazi Germany when it comes to FMA:B. The Japan part of that might be a bit of a stretch, but LOTGH -- not so much. The Galactic Empire is clearly inspired by some American-European influence, like Brittania in Code Geass. And the Free Planets Alliance would clearly be on the side of a metaphorical space Japan. Excellent point, haven't considered that. When I watched I didn't feel the Alliance was 'metaphorical japan', but rather a modern society as whole, but it could very well be a representation of 'modern japan' then. |
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inim said: I haven't watched that anime, but have read the novel and would point out Masuji Ibuse isn't survivor of Hiroshima. It's his home region yes but he worked in Tokyo irc during the bombings, thus isn't part of the "lower class". The novel is written based on by various experiences and research papers.The closest thing to that I know is https://myanimelist.net/anime/19135/Kuroi_Ame_ni_Utarete The "people" here are Hiroshima survivors, who have been discriminated and shunned by their fellow Japanese. Nobody wanted to marry, employ or friend them, they were impure. The author of the original work is one of them, and he hates back. And to make it perfect, he puts all his hatred against the people who caused this on top: the Americans. He hates them even more than the Japanese who hate him. This is the most bitter, angry and hateful anime I've seen. And while I can understand where the strong negative emotions come from, it's still too much. Unless they have changed the adaptation a lot, I wouldn't even call it having much hatred towards Americans. The novel itself describes more so just wartime Japan, the effect the war had on citizens, war propaganda fed to Japanese and criticizes Japanese army and their mentality. Americans are present only for short period of the novel, when USA sent doctors to "help" with nuclear survivors. It is a work leaning heavy on anti-war message. |
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| pick any non-isekai fantasy, any anime which takes place in some european country (there are a surprising amount of these), or just watch it in dub haha. |
| 「 if i had a flower for every time i think of you, i could walk in my garden forever. 」 |
| Keep in mind what I meant are works that are anti-Japanese and not simply those that are set outside of Japan featuring non-Japanese. |
| I wish Cowboy Bebop never existed. |
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