Arknights: Reimei Zensou Episode 7 Discussion

Кейл_х_Моргана said:
best episode? lol how guys.

That was a dog shit set up to turn misha against RI.

Misha 100% saw "alex" trying to allah akbar and blow himself up and kill RI members but somehow gets mad at Ayima for defending everyone?

Also I am never ever a fan of the shows that have the people that never kill people no matter what.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
best episode? lol how guys.

That was a dog shit set up to turn misha against RI.

Misha 100% saw "alex" trying to allah akbar and blow himself up and kill RI members but somehow gets mad at Ayima for defending everyone?

Also I am never ever a fan of the shows that have the people that never kill people no matter what.

ArataDragonX said:

Have you ever played Arknights?

I think you didn’t read the lore first, dummy.

ArataDragonX said:

Have you ever played Arknights?

I think you didn’t read the lore first, dummy.

ArataDragonX said:

Have you ever played Arknights?

I think you didn’t read the lore first, dummy.

BlichoBoy said:
Misha have some binocular eyesight to see that far.

ArataDragonX said:

Have you ever played Arknights?

I think you didn’t read the lore first, dummy.

Gnihc420 said:


Bruh it has nothing to do with if you played the game or not
Everyone agrees that Misha is just stupid lol

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
best episode? lol how guys.

That was a dog shit set up to turn misha against RI.

Misha 100% saw "alex" trying to allah akbar and blow himself up and kill RI members but somehow gets mad at Ayima for defending everyone?

Also I am never ever a fan of the shows that have the people that never kill people no matter what.

Inorichi said:
Honestly one of the better, if not best episode so far. Where things are, at least in the immediate setting, coherent in the series.

Halving the ep into a Misha pov to build the narrative and only switching back to RI for the battle was pretty nice imo, Skullshredders background, connection to Misha, and her ability to use arts all fairly clear. W's appearance is not completely and utterly butchered like before, but given her introduction was already ruined, she's more of a wack war psycho than a mysterious psycho. Most importantly, production was actually fairly nice and the soundtracks were actually used to set the scene, not just as bgm.

Tbh if it's not the ep structure and how they're constructing the story, I seem to have an issue with how they're presenting everything mechanically.

Shooting the grenade launcher into the sky to start the fight. This isn't a kids show. 6 shots, now 5. Wasted SP, or 'mana', or whatever limited energy they have to use arts, unless operators have unlimited SP in the anime. Same with the exaggerated launcher toss and suicide charge. What mental acrobatics did Skullshredder do to think that running the nade over would be more effective than shooting it. If Doctor did anything other than sit there, the scene completely falls apart.

If this ridiculous suicide charge is intentional and meant to be in-line with Skullshredder's amateurish/childish character that they've built, it still detracts from Amiya's shock at killing Skullshredder since it seems more like his own stupidity killed him, than Amiya. The scene would have played out the exact same emotionally on Amiya's part, whilst building respecting for Skullshredder, if Skullshredder had a clear shot at Doctor and was about to fire, which Amiya noticed before using her arts. Or managed to hide or roll a nade into the vicinity of the doctor. Which Amiya noticed as Skullshredder was about to detonate. Something aside from an npc level thought process charge with pathfinding as smart as league of legend minions. Like crossbows, gunners? Were they just gonna watch as he ran in a straight line?

That being said, I don't recall hating Amiya this much reading Arknights as much as I do watching it. Almost every word out of her mouth has absolutely no purpose aside from building the pacifist persona, and it's done in such an exceedingly mind-numbingly and unnecessarily blatant way.
Like even an eye's widening would have sufficed in getting the point across to the audience. No the leader of our terrorist hunting group has to step back while mumbling words of shock that she killed the very terrorists we were hunting. "Oh no! I didn't mean to! Shock and horror!" I just killed a terrorist who was about to kill my commander and I am in so much shock.
I genuinely don't understand who the target demographic are or what the series comp, script writer, or whoever is adapting the dialogue is trying to accomplish with Amiya's dialogue here.

StateofOhayo said:
idk how to feel about the show. it feels like i just got dropped into the middle of everything although i'm able to get what's going on, i just don't see where it's going or what the point is.

ANITAIMASTER249 said:

That's honestly how it felt like during the first 3 chapters for most players too. You understand what's happening but doesn't know where it will go. From Chapter 4 and 5 it starts picking up and having a clear end goal.

ArataDragonX said:

I think you’re a Lore hater

ArataDragonX said:

I think you’re a Lore hater

Gnihc420 said:


No, wth. dym by that XDDD
I friking love arknights lore
(Except for chapter 0-3 which is mid af honestly.

Evalith said:

Tbh I can see why Skullshatterer would do the suicide charge, if you see Amiya's perspective and the shot where skullshatterer dies, you can see there's a decent distance between Doctor and Skullshatterer. Shooting uphill is also not too easy. It doesn't help that more operators show up, one with a shield. Instead of having to deal with each individually, Skullshatterer decided to go for the guaranteed kill on all of them in one single blow which Amiya thankfully managed to stop.

I like Amiya much more in the anime, in the game she's just like "oh, you have amnesia? Damn, anyways please command immediately!" She feels much more like an actual character with values and ideals in the anime.
Amiya's lil freak out is facing reality. The reality that sometimes you have to kill to survive, kill to save others. I think her reaction makes perfect sense, she always avoids killing and this is her first kill, on a kid no less.
In real life, a soldier would be traumatized for life if they had to shoot a kid with an RPG who was about to fire on a base full of people that
the soldier knows and is friends with. Alex is a kid with an RPG and even though putting that kid down means saving many lives, it's still a choice most would rather not want to make.
Oversimplifying can make anything sound dumb. There's so much more to it than "terrorist hunting group is shocked to kill terrorists"

Calal-Chan said:


All I can say is if you are this far and still can't understand what is going on then I honestly think that says more about you than the show. Arknights this far in is incredibly simple to understand so you are either not paying attention or and are an idiot or a troll. Disliking the show is fine but it is clear to me that you are not cappable of understanding simple writing.

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R3sZ said:
why are u guys look at her like she just do something wrong

R3sZ said:
he about to explode and kill them all!

Jengamouse said:
I haven't played the game so I'm maybe not as invested in this but there's no way this is the best episode so far. Unless it's more that whatever happens next is a good moment so this is hype because of that.

It's a blatant and cliched set-up for Misha to maybe turn on Rhodes Island. I think she should have had a more active role this episode and tried harder to stop Alex from fighting Rhodes Island who she should know are good people, but she just watches it unfold from the sidelines (despite the dust, although I can suspend my disbelief for something that minor).

Alex/Skull Shatterer is a pretty boring character who has the kind of broken logic I always hate - where it's ok for them to kill innocent people for their cause but when one of theirs gets killed in return they get all mad like what did you expect. Although apparently Rhodes Island weren't even killing them (which was news to me, it sure looked like they were) so it's even dumber.

I feel like I'm supposed to sympathise with Reunion a bit after this but I really can't feel sorry for them. I get that they've been suppressed and are finally fighting back but when even children are guilty for just not being infected, this removes any merit the rest of the argument about Rhodes Island not being able to change anything could have had.

Amiya getting upset that she's killed someone even if it was to save the Doctor at least completely fits what we've seen of her character so far, so I'm not too annoyed at that.

Overall that was the worst episode so far in terms of story but it was still enjoyable. The animation and sound design is general is great, Amiya's attack shooting right across the battlefield to save the Doctor looked really cool.

null said:
Best episode since ep 1

My only nitpick is the anime-only Alex final attack, I feel like it kind of invalidates the weight of Amiya's killing blow in the end. If Alex was already moments before blowing himself up, there really is no moral argument behind Amiya's actions, it's 100% justified. Sad to say, but I think the game's severe lack of details did this scene better, since it was possible to resolve the conflict with Alex living, yet the Amiya "slip" still happened.

R3sZ said:
im so pissed off by this episode honestly..it seems so stupid on misha part and i hate that last part..clearly even if amiya did kill skull then whats the prob? he about to explode and kill them all! its common sense to just kill that asshole i mean like misha was like "oh my Amiya my girl what have u done?" really girl? how can u be this stupid?! and not to mention everyone else also just kinda wanna blame or act surprised towards Amiya when she did that i was like why are u guys look at her like she just do something wrong like protecting u guys in the middle of the fucking war u ass!

Secret333 said:
I liked this episode. While I think we needed more time with Misha and Skullshatterer, and their group of Reunion to make Misha's turn to their sided more convincing, I guess we don't have that time. They did the best with what they had.



I can understand how it feels this way, but I don't think it could be the worst episode.

Not everyone can be a decisive person and see what's going to happen if they don't act a certain way. When it came to what they believed, Alex was stronger in his and in reunion, than Misha was in Rhodes Island. When he asked her whether the people treating them as vermin to be exterminated are accomplices or not, she didn't have an answer. When she remembered the past, she broke down and started apologizing. She feels guilt for all his suffering. How can she, who's only been with Rhodes Island for less than a day, convince him that they're the good people, when she can't be that sure to begin with?
I think she tried her best with what she is and what she knew. She definitely tried to stop him, but she can't.

As for Alex having a broken logic: He (and many infected) don't see the people they kill as innocents. When so much injustice and cruelty is done to them by the government and the people not only stand and watch it happen, but encourge it, and do it themselves, is it a surprise that they would hate everyone that's not on their side? We can judge it from an outsider's perspective, but to them, their views are the right ones because they're informed by their life and suffering.

I'll hold off on commenting too much on reunion, as their organization's history and many factions are still not revealed yet. But as far as the anime gives us, it's enough to see why they are the way they are. I don't know if feeling sorry for them is the intended emotion. Rather, a pity that they ended up the way they are.

And I agree that Amiya was in character when she realized what she did. There's important dialogue from her after this happens in the game that I REALLY hope the anime doesn't skip next episode. And Episode 2 still holds my vote for worst episode. This was one of the better ones.


I went back and read 3-4 After, Skullshatterer tries to blow up his staff, which he's holding, since his normal attacks were blocked by Hoshi. So yes, he was about to blow himself up and everyone in his way, including the doctor. The game doesn't say "He'll sacrifice himself to kill Doc", but it's clear to me that's what he was gonna do.



I see many people holding these two sentiments (that Amiya shouldn't be too shaken up since she did the right thing, and that Misha shouldn't hold it against her since it was Skullshatterer's fault). But it's not really about the morals or the objectively best action to make in that situation. Amiya (and Rhodes Island) have made their creeds and goals clear since episode 1. They want to save the infected, and they don't wanna kill anyone if they could. Killing Skullshatterer means they had to take a life. Even if it meant saving others, there's still the question of whether another way to stop him was possible. And the fact she killed him unintentionaly would absolutely shake her up. The other operators are not necesserily looking at her like she did something wrong. When witnessing such powerful arts, it's natural to look at the source. We don't know what the other ops thought but that's not important. What's important is what Amiya was seeing. And seeing everyone looking at her naturally made her wanna explain and defend herself.

As for Misha, she was sold on RI's ideals because they didn't kill anyone. That's the main thing she brought up when trying to appeal to her brother. If she believed that, then she would hope that even if Alex loses the fight, if it's Amiya, he won't die, and that belief was betrayed in front of her eyes. Thinking about it rationaly, she might reach the conclusion that it was all Alex's fault. But I can't fault her if she doesn't do so. She reunited with her long lost sibling, she saw how much he cared about her, and she saw him getting killed by a person she looked up to because she thought she wouldn't do that. Anyone like Misha would question whether Amiya could've stopped Alex without killing him, and why she did so anyway.

R3sZ said:

hmm well based on what u said, i kind of get it..but i still think its just a bad writing or a script or whatever..it feels weird if u know what i mean..common sense? like so if there is self destruct going to happen in front of our eyes are we just going to accept it? of course not, its just natural for human being to protect themselves and do whatever it takes to survive..so imo yes in this episode it just a bad writing thats all

ArataDragonX said:

Ahem, i play Arknights for almost 3 years.
And calling me an idiot and troll is a bit too far. To be fair, i have read every lore in the game and every side story lore too.
So please, apologize for saying those words to me.