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Nov 22, 2022 3:50 PM
#51
chainsaw man is above 8 tho 8.7 something |
Nov 22, 2022 3:58 PM
#52
Whether it's the anime rated below or above 8, they're all hit or miss. There's difference, anime rated below 8 miss more often usually, you could still find hidden gems within anime with 6 rating or below, but good luck, it's definitely hidden among trashes. |
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Nov 22, 2022 5:50 PM
#53
No? You're talking about scores most likely under a "good/7/10" rating after you factor in score inflation. |
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Nov 22, 2022 6:06 PM
#54
Nov 22, 2022 6:34 PM
#55
The reason so many good shows are being robbed out of the 8 score are due to gatekeepers from twitter or reddit automatically neutering scores of older shows they don't watch, especially if the "genre" is deemed "offensive'. Date A Live, Saekano, Danmachi later seasons have no business being below 8 |
Nov 22, 2022 6:40 PM
#56
This turns out to actually be the case since for the vast majority of anime rated above the 8.0 mark, the reason for that privilege is generally the enthusiasm ("hype factor") of a large group of people rather than perceived quality for each of them, and we'll have to agree that it is quite unlikely that any particular individual will belong to each of these groups or the majority of them; it is much more likely that said individual will only belong to a few or some of them, which leads to the inevitable conclusion that each individual in particular should always find more titles that match their preferences in the [0, 8) range than the [8, 10] one. |
Nov 22, 2022 7:27 PM
#57
Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid, Azumanga Daioh, Higurashi, OreImo. All of these titles I'd say are in my top ten for sure and none of them have an average score above 8.00. I'd still call them mainstream, though. I think it depends more on popularity. |
Nov 22, 2022 8:08 PM
#58
-Shizuna- said: Hunter x Hunter is an excetion, though. It doesn't even have a single cute girl. False. Kurapika looks pretty cute in his female disguise. |
Nov 22, 2022 8:28 PM
#59
My favourites are evenly split down the middle, 5 are rated higher than 8, 5 are rated lower than 8. I can't say I agree with this. I think there are more good anime rated lower than 8 than rated higher than 8 simply because there are more anime rated below 8 than above, but the average quality of the cohort above 8 I'd argue is higher than below 8. I've also calculated my average score for the anime I've rated that are in MAL's top 100 and it came out to something like 7.5, while my average for all anime was like 4.7 at the time. You're making fun of people for "not watching enough stuff out of the mainstream", but I don't think you've truly delved into the deep and become one with the sludge at the very bottom that makes up the worst 20% of all anime. There's some genuine garbage out there, and it's not the stuff that's floating to the top. |
Nov 22, 2022 8:33 PM
#60
Maybe my taste is too "mainstream" but a majority of my favorites are 8's and above. I also have a pretty diversified taste so I gotta disagree with OP here. |
Nov 22, 2022 8:54 PM
#61
8/10 of my favs are 8+ cause they're good, this post makes no sense because I wouldn't call Shouwa Genroku, Sorayori and Zankyou "mainstream". |
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Nov 22, 2022 9:10 PM
#62
An absolute crock of shit, what happens when you try and think too contrarian often, you come up with garbage takes like this. Double digit IQ stuff. There's thousands of trash anime below 8.00 lol, a far greater percentage of anime compared to 8.0. |
Nov 23, 2022 12:46 AM
#63
That's something I've been experiencing the more I'm going down the list. The top 10-ish tends to be really good but the moment you go below that the amount of boring anime just rises. And some of the greatest shows are in the 7-8 range. You can also dig gold in the 5-6 range too. |
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Nov 23, 2022 4:05 AM
#64
Nov 23, 2022 6:32 AM
#65
Not really but people believe what they want to believe. |
Nov 23, 2022 7:35 AM
#66
i agree not always the case but a lot of good shows are 6-7 in my experience |
Nov 23, 2022 7:56 AM
#67
3 of my faves are rated under 8 and 2 of my faves have prequels rated under 8 which I rated 9 so... could be. |
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Nov 23, 2022 8:23 AM
#68
-Shizuna- said: And if most your favorites are 8-9 it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream much and need to diversify your portfolio. 9+, on the other hand, are exceptions because usually they are accepted by most o the community members regardless of taste. Hunter x Hunter is an excetion, though. It doesn't even have a single cute girl. Why do you think so? It isn't always true. |
Nov 23, 2022 8:23 AM
#69
I really liked anime below 8 more than above... Maybe this has some truth in it... Or not. |
Nov 23, 2022 10:10 AM
#71
Imagine believing Mal rating omegalol |
Nov 23, 2022 11:43 AM
#72
But anime over 9 are really good no matter what it is, I mean cmon, it's up there for a reason, other than that, I agree |
Nov 23, 2022 2:42 PM
#73
Far not always, so it cannot work as a guide on what is good. Good rated shows that I rate low and hate often go against my way of thinking and my values. It is hard to watch a show if it depicts situations and types of people I hate. It overall feel and idea not only does not resonate with me but also goes against my own ideas. 'I do not subscribe to this logic and reason.' - to paraphrase Fate/Zero. So I do not answer the summons. Low rated shows that I rate higher than average often have some flaws. But I personally like them for one or the other reasons. Like for example Dolls Frontline has poor story and feels poorly stitched together, but waifus there are to my taste so I say it is good. Good girl should be obedient like a good soldier. Overlord also has poorly written story , but may be fantasy here is easier to relate so I and many others rate it high. |
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Nov 23, 2022 6:53 PM
#74
i love seeing "mainstream bad" and "obscure anime good" on the forums. This is just not true nine times out of ten |
Nov 23, 2022 7:18 PM
#75
Now that I think about it only 3 of my favorite anime have a rating of above 8 on Myanimelist. It's almost there's some kind of bias against older shows, and some kind of bias towards new shows. And if you were to go even further maybe certain genres get more acknowledgement. WINK WINK. Anyway it's not like the numbers really matter all that much at the end of the day. However most (most does not mean all) good older stuff tends to not get higher than 7.9, call this a generalization if you will. |
Nov 23, 2022 10:00 PM
#76
No not really. 8+ rated animes usually have better consistency that allows more wider range of audience to enjoy the show, hence the higher score. Though I certainly agree that 6-7 star animes could be 9 or even 10s in people's books. Wee all have unique tastes and something that doesn't click with others might really be suited for us so despite lower ratings we still love it. I still have no idea how Akiba maid wars isn't above 8.3 Those who only say anime 8-9+ are good probably are acting like they have elitist taste when in reality they don't actually have any taste so they define taste with scores and critics' opinions. |
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Nov 23, 2022 10:14 PM
#77
That is very broadly speaking, but yeah I get what you're getting at. At first glance, I'd probably have a better impression of an anime with a 6.00 rating with 100k members rather than one with an 8.00 rating with 1m members Mostly because I'd assume that the audiences of smaller, lesser-known anime have put more thought into their ratings rather than dishing out 10/10's like free candy, just because they enjoyed it even just a little bit. |
Nov 23, 2022 11:21 PM
#78
I know, and the scoring is what messes with me sometimes. I look at the ratings and reviews for an anime I'd feel iffy about watching the anime itself. If it has around 7 or below, I'm worried that it has justifiable reasoning for it, or a lot of people scored it harshly for a valid reason. I recently watched Aldnoah. Zero and it has a score of 7.4. The reviews were harsh but I still gave it a try, and I ended up not liking it because of the lackluster worldbuilding and terrible character writing. But I love the Wagnaria Series and all of the seasons had a lower score than 8, but it was hilarious and enjoyable. There are good animes that are also rated well, but we can't really dispose of them, for being liked by most of the numbers. Great Pretender and Clannad After Story are good animes, that are scored above 8, and for good reason too. |
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Nov 23, 2022 11:43 PM
#79
Average scores and mean scores are meaningless and are not an indicator if something is good or not to be honest. The best thing someone can do is experience something for themselves and have their own opinion rather than rely on some average score calculated by this site or the even less critical AniList. You are your own barometer. Watching only what is mainstream does not make you worse or better than someone who watches underground shows. |
Nov 24, 2022 2:54 AM
#80
I'd say that in many cases average score only shows if this thing is mainstream or not, not much else. Some series get the hate because "reasons", or because "I hate genre X therefore it's trash". If you view it rationally there are things that are simply niche and if you like/enjoy it or not is solely based on what you are looking for and expecting to get out of it. |
Nov 24, 2022 3:01 AM
#81
But what about our lord rimuru, shizuna-kun? |
Nov 24, 2022 4:20 AM
#82
texhnolyze backs this up since it negs 99.99% of anime |
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Nov 24, 2022 5:33 AM
#83
Did you just assume my honorific?!. |
Nov 24, 2022 6:01 AM
#84
I always find myself giving 10 to animes that are rated 5-7 as well, a lot of psychological shows are rated 7 even tho i feel like they deserve more |
Nov 24, 2022 6:10 AM
#85
I think majority of the time 8-9 are better than 8> but the 8> shows tend to be peoples favourites as they tend to be more bend more to ones taste |
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Nov 24, 2022 6:27 AM
#86
-Shizuna- said: Did you just assume my honorific?!. (◯Δ◯∥) I know how this ends in 2022 so ᕕ(╯°□° )ᕗ |
Nov 24, 2022 4:11 PM
#87
10+years old anime rated 7-8+ are generally better than below 10+years old anime rated 8-9+ |
Nov 24, 2022 4:18 PM
#88
Guess I'm a normie, and Girl's Last Tour is mainstream shit. |
Nov 24, 2022 7:09 PM
#90
-Shizuna- said: if most your favorites are 8-9 It is close to that. -Shizuna- said: it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream Really? So watching a 10-20 eps every day chosing titles from any season from 1990+- means I am inside mainstream. It is sad. |
Nov 25, 2022 2:35 AM
#91
-Shizuna- said: neferpitou would like a word with you.Hunter x Hunter . It doesn't even have a single cute girl. and Reina the ant girl was cute too. |
Nov 25, 2022 5:50 AM
#92
''Critically acclaimed shows are worse than less critically acclaimed shows'' lol, of course in some cases but generally shows that are received well by the majority of people are better than shows that are not |
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Nov 25, 2022 7:40 AM
#93
STEPAN-BANDERA said: I checked your list and it's almost exclusively mainstream or formerly mainstream stuff. Most of the exeptions seem to be a few ecchi anime.-Shizuna- said: if most your favorites are 8-9 It is close to that. -Shizuna- said: it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream Really? So watching a 10-20 eps every day chosing titles from any season from 1990+- means I am inside mainstream. It is sad. |
Nov 25, 2022 7:52 AM
#94
Phosphophyllita said: So what about the first season of bleach which was rated 7.89? Bleach with 9.11 speaks for itself. |
Nov 25, 2022 10:24 AM
#95
Can't agree totally, but yeah there are quite some exceptions |
Nov 25, 2022 10:28 AM
#96
KuroudoAkabane said: As far as I heard from manga people Neferpitou isn't even a "she" :(-Shizuna- said: neferpitou would like a word with you.Hunter x Hunter . It doesn't even have a single cute girl. and Reina the ant girl was cute too. |
Nov 27, 2022 9:13 AM
#97
Roevhaal said: STEPAN-BANDERA said: I checked your list and it's almost exclusively mainstream or formerly mainstream stuff. Most of the exeptions seem to be a few ecchi anime.-Shizuna- said: if most your favorites are 8-9 It is close to that. -Shizuna- said: it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream Really? So watching a 10-20 eps every day chosing titles from any season from 1990+- means I am inside mainstream. It is sad. I have been actively watching anime since mid-2020. I need to cover a lot of material that has been released in previous years. The material of the highest (arguably actually, but still) quality. Let's take 2021 and 2022 as an example. According to the statistics provided by anime+, in the 4 anime seasons (quarters) of 2021, I have added 71 (2021 produced) items to my list. 71/4 = 17.75 titles per anime season. Not impressive? Am I still in the mainstream? For 2 completed anime seasons of 2022 (spring and summer) - 38 enties. 38/2 = 19 titles per season. I personally go through the list of what will be released and choose what to watch. Is the number 19 still in mainstream? Not 3, 5 or 7 - 19. In general, how much material is released per season that has at least something notable (or "worth" to watch)? How much isn't too "specific" for a western viewer (and expelling chinese sht)? 50-60? I think somewhere like that. 19/60 - mainstream? Is a third mainstream now? |
Nov 27, 2022 10:23 AM
#98
STEPAN-BANDERA said: Why are you trying to flex by your seasonal anime watching numbers? Seasonal viewing is pretty much the default way to watch anime now a days. You doing the same as every other anime fan does not work as proof of you not being mainstream.Roevhaal said: STEPAN-BANDERA said: -Shizuna- said: if most your favorites are 8-9 It is close to that. -Shizuna- said: it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream Really? So watching a 10-20 eps every day chosing titles from any season from 1990+- means I am inside mainstream. It is sad. I have been actively watching anime since mid-2020. I need to cover a lot of material that has been released in previous years. The material of the highest (arguably actually, but still) quality. Let's take 2021 and 2022 as an example. According to the statistics provided by anime+, in the 4 anime seasons (quarters) of 2021, I have added 71 (2021 produced) items to my list. 71/4 = 17.75 titles per anime season. Not impressive? Am I still in the mainstream? For 2 completed anime seasons of 2022 (spring and summer) - 38 enties. 38/2 = 19 titles per season. I personally go through the list of what will be released and choose what to watch. Is the number 19 still in mainstream? Not 3, 5 or 7 - 19. In general, how much material is released per season that has at least something notable (or "worth" to watch)? How much isn't too "specific" for a western viewer (and expelling chinese sht)? 50-60? I think somewhere like that. 19/60 - mainstream? Is a third mainstream now? Why are you trying so hard to come off as unique? |
Nov 27, 2022 10:59 AM
#99
Whilst I mostly agree, I still have 3 favourites that are above 8 and below 9. |
Nov 27, 2022 11:02 AM
#100
Roevhaal said: STEPAN-BANDERA said: Why are you trying to flex by your seasonal anime watching numbers? Seasonal viewing is pretty much the default way to watch anime now a days. You doing the same as every other anime fan does not work as proof of you not being mainstream.Roevhaal said: STEPAN-BANDERA said: I checked your list and it's almost exclusively mainstream or formerly mainstream stuff. Most of the exeptions seem to be a few ecchi anime.-Shizuna- said: if most your favorites are 8-9 It is close to that. -Shizuna- said: it just means you don't watch outside of mainstream Really? So watching a 10-20 eps every day chosing titles from any season from 1990+- means I am inside mainstream. It is sad. I have been actively watching anime since mid-2020. I need to cover a lot of material that has been released in previous years. The material of the highest (arguably actually, but still) quality. Let's take 2021 and 2022 as an example. According to the statistics provided by anime+, in the 4 anime seasons (quarters) of 2021, I have added 71 (2021 produced) items to my list. 71/4 = 17.75 titles per anime season. Not impressive? Am I still in the mainstream? For 2 completed anime seasons of 2022 (spring and summer) - 38 enties. 38/2 = 19 titles per season. I personally go through the list of what will be released and choose what to watch. Is the number 19 still in mainstream? Not 3, 5 or 7 - 19. In general, how much material is released per season that has at least something notable (or "worth" to watch)? How much isn't too "specific" for a western viewer (and expelling chinese sht)? 50-60? I think somewhere like that. 19/60 - mainstream? Is a third mainstream now? Why are you trying so hard to come off as unique? Roevhaal said: Seasonal viewing Roevhaal said: default way Roevhaal said: trying Roevhaal said: hard to come off as unique Show me even 1 sentence/phrase/word in which I would declare that I am unique? I precisely and clearly stated that imo 3, maximum 5, most popular series of the season can be considered mainstream. I hereby point out that the author's initial statement is incorrect. Also, you don't seem to understand, so I'll explain it to you. Returning to the question of uniqueness - "uniqueness" and "mainstream" are not two exceptional states in which one can be in the business of watching. These are the "ends" of the scale, the two opposite ends. And between them - the "usual" way, about which you mentioned directly. |
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