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I want to ask people here how they view fanservice, specifically the lewd kind (since the term is synonymous with the lewd kind) and I don't mean whether it should be or shouldn't be, I'm talking about how or what you think the service is to the fans. So, for example, let's say a new anime came out that showed nips on an occasional basis, but the anime is the type that without that, would still be good. Do you see the showing of boobs as fanservice to those who are fans of the show, or do you see it as fanservice to those who like seeing boobs? I'm genuinely curious about this, because i dont understand it at all. i LOVE seeing anime boobs to the point that i think, unless the anime is specifically targeted towards children, that nips should NEVER censored by whatever means. But i always see things where people are complaining about there being too much fanservice. I've never seen a problem with it. I see it as a garnish to the meal that is the anime, and i wish it would be in more. especially in anime where its like "we will show fully nude girls, but because of whatever reasons we have to cover SPECIFICALLY the nips."
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There are tasteful ways of doing it and there are bad ways of doing. There should be some effort put into it. I also don't like it when it's done half-heartedly.
Examples of shows that do good fanservice-Monogatari Series, Kakegurui, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.
Shows that do the cheap kind of fanservice-Sword Art Online, Darling in the Franxx.
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I don't like fanservice. If i want to fap and see booba, I'll watch hentai instead.
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i like fan service. it is very nice. more fan service
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It is a service for the people who live in their basements and breathe their own farts all day.
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I only like fanservice if it involves card games.

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I see it with my eyes...

Jk, There is good fanservice and bad fanservice, tasteful and disgustful, Food Wars/ Kill la Kill/ Konosuba and Fire Force/ Darling in the FranxX/ Highschool of the Dead.
If it's done well to "enhance" or "add" to the series, good. But if it is distracting and could be a better anime without the fanservice, then I think it is unneeded.

Then again, I don't really go into a show looking for fanservice.


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Don't stop or neglect the story for fanservice. But don't be deterred by prudes either. But that doesn't mean it's obligatory.

If you actively want to not have any nipples to prevent your audience getting distracted from the story or disrespecting the characters as sex objects, then don't draw them. But if it's just thinking people will complain, then don't hide them, people who complain about nipples are weirdos and should be ignored. Just don't throw in a five second cut, the only point of which is to have the audience gaze at them. Because that's boring, you can do two things at the same time here.
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>"How do you see fanservice" Has a essential necessary of life, why do you ask?
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My kind of fanservice if it involves yugioh reference.
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Most of it is bad and I know people crawl out of their corners and call me woke and shit... it's just bad. It's not sexy and I don't want to stare on a 14 yo's ass.
Also most fanservice series are scared to include actual sexual themes and scenes in it. They are like these embarassed teenage boys, who talk about women's tits and ass all day, but as soon as they are in a sexual situation with a living person or people talking about in more detail about bodies and sex than just "that girl is soo hot, look at her ass!", they freeze up.
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Depends on the show, but I usually like it......
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Yeah, what Serafos said. Unless it clashes with the theme and style. For example, if an anime like Non Non Biyori featured the occasional panty shot of Kaede or Kazuho it would feel out of place ( = dislike).

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all anime should have at least 5 bare tits scenes per cour
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An extra something if I care about the story and characters, and a distraction if I don't.

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I personally love fan service and I love when it is shown in the anime I watch
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I believe in the freedom for artists to make the content they see fit. I like fan service, unless that's the purpose of the show (Freezing, Sekirei). I helps to know the target audience isn't small children
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Personally, I had fanservice. Doesn't matter what type of anime it is. If I wanna see tiddies I'm gonna watch hentai. But I still think fanservice is fitting for shows like Rent a Girlfriend & TQQ. But it shouldn't be in anime like One Piece or Fire Force. Anime that don't have anything to do with sexual stuff. It's just annoying to see fanservice is shows like that.
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so long as it remains largely innocently-feminine in overall nature, it's more-or-less My Aeroplane through and through;




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i don't really care.
and i don't understand why people bother so much to the point of not being able to watch the anime.
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Ryou_Sensei said:
...Do you see the showing of boobs as fanservice to those who are fans of the show, or do you see it as fanservice to those who like seeing boobs?...


It's fanservice to make you keep watching. You can see when it's fanservice and when its not. Summer Time Render has a scene with a girl showing her pantie. They could use a lot of different approachs to context, but they chose this fanservice as a way of getting a kids attention, for example. It's the first episode and the plot is way to hard for a kid to get in first watch, so they use this to made the kid watch to the action stuff, cus then he it's not even interested in the plot anymore, he just wanna see some kick ass fights, the pantie made him stay until the good stuff could be presented. I think this is the ONLY scene in the role 25 episode show of a pantie. But of course, they will put some boobs and minor stuff just to made the kid stay a little bit more, just in case.

The producers were smart cus they dose the fanservice. Some people may found those scenes as something bad for the character or plot. But if a person drop the show on that, there will be a couple of kids that enjoyed. And also, some people just don't give a shit cus the plot is damn good. This way they hit more audience.

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...i LOVE seeing anime boobs to the point that i think, unless the anime is specifically targeted towards children, that nips should NEVER censored by whatever means. ...


First thing here is that every country has it's own rules considering what should be censored or not, what's considered ok for a 15 teen see in a show will change, so, the people behind the anime want and need money, and with that in mind they will do ANYTHING to make the show hit more audience. So, If showing nips are not that essential to the show, they will cut and it's a good decision.

But think about Cyberpunk Edgerunners, if they cut nudity, boobs, ass on that it could potentially get less audience. The reason for this is simples, the show is intended to an specific audience of more mature an adult people, plus, the plot need this stuff cus is essential to the genre. A kid watching that would be piss cus he wouldn't get his "candy" at the end of the story, if you know what i mean (i'm not spoiling anything so, go watch it). So, Netflix understand that is no point in removing nudity or reducing it cus kids audience was not their target there. This way they chose to go full sex and nudity stuff as a way of saying "this is for adults".

I think there is a country that censored the titans in Attack on Titan, so they use shorts hahahahaha it's so funny!

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I could enjoy a show if the fanservice is intentional (City Hunter). I guess it's kind of what Serafos said.
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I see it extremely positively and welcome it whenever it appears whether it makes sense in context or not, any fanservice is good fanservice.
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all anime should have at least 5 bare tits scenes per cour


Absolutely agreed, it's exactly what i had in mind in fact i developed a measuring system for fanservice it's called "BPM" which stands for Breast Per Minute.

if bpm equals 0 boring anime

1 < bpm < 10 Decent anime

10 < bpm < 30 Good Anime

30 < bpm < 60 Excellent anime

if bpm equals 60 Greatest anime

the highest level you could ever reach is 60 because there's only 60 seconds in a minute thus the highest level which means a boob appears every second.
this measuring system applies to both normal anime and hentai, so far many hentais score a decent to good anime rating.
while the only show that i know of that scored a perfect 60 is called bikini warriors.

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Catalano said:
all anime should have at least 5 bare tits scenes per cour


Absolutely agreed, it's exactly what i had in mind in fact a developed a measuring system for anime it's called "BPM" which stand for Boob Per Minute

if bpm equals 0 boring anime

1 < bpm < 10 decent anime

10 < bpm < 30 Good Anime

30 < bpm < 60 Excellent anime

the highest level you could ever reach is 60 because there's only 60 seconds in a minute thus the highest level which a boob literally every seconds.
this measuring system applies to both normal anime and hentai, so far many hentais score a decent to good anime rating.
while the only show that i know of that scored a perfect 60 is called bikini warriors.


very intriguing, I will save this message for future use in comparing ecchi anime
If I think about it I can include in this calculation panty shots, cop-a-feel's and many more
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Unless it really impacts the moments in the story, I don't really two shits about fanservice. I don't get why so many people are so pissed that an anime character is wearing a bra and exposing skin.
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Catalano said:
tchitchouan said:


Absolutely agreed, it's exactly what i had in mind in fact a developed a measuring system for anime it's called "BPM" which stand for Boob Per Minute

if bpm equals 0 boring anime

1 < bpm < 10 decent anime

10 < bpm < 30 Good Anime

30 < bpm < 60 Excellent anime

the highest level you could ever reach is 60 because there's only 60 seconds in a minute thus the highest level which a boob literally every seconds.
this measuring system applies to both normal anime and hentai, so far many hentais score a decent to good anime rating.
while the only show that i know of that scored a perfect 60 is called bikini warriors.


very intriguing, I will save this message for future use in comparing ecchi anime
If I think about it I can include in this calculation panty shots, cop-a-feel's and many more


Yes of course my measuring system is very modular and flexible since you can apply it to various other things like panty shots and cop-a-feels as it can be adapted to count anything that appears in anime regardless of its nature.
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There are tasteful ways of doing it and there are bad ways of doing. There should be some effort put into it. I also don't like it when it's done half-heartedly.
Examples of shows that do good fanservice-Monogatari Series, Kakegurui, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.
Shows that do the cheap kind of fanservice-Sword Art Online, Darling in the Franxx.

Darling has legit no nudity, and all the sexual "innuendos" are like, at the thematic core of the show.

The manga tho, that's disgusting pedobait. I'm not sure how it got published here in France. Dunno how old the characters are supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure selling full color illustrations of Ichigo and Zero Two making out is a big no-no here from a legal PoV.

Monogatari on the other hand... People are naked "just because", to feed horny teens some anime tiddies. MC is borderline assaulting little girls for the lolz, and that toothbrush scene... eeeew... It definitely tries to be artsy about it, but it's hard to find any rhyme or reason to it besides "teens like bobs"

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I could enjoy a show if the fanservice is intentional (City Hunter). I guess it's kind of what Serafos said.

One thing that strikes me with City Hunter or Ranma 1/2, is that the shows never objectify women. City Hunter actually has no nudity, and the most explicit content of the manga is Ryo tearing down houses with his boner. And the idiot in these events is always Ryo. Ranma 1/2 (like Maison Ikkoku) is pretty much non-stop nudity at the start, yet it never feels stupid or tacked on. I think Rumiko just likes drawing naked girls.

If I compare it to more modern "fanservice", I can't help but feel either anime's target audience changed for the worst, or Japan is going back in time since the 70s/80s.
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I like it. Some shows I watch only for the fanservice
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It really just depends on the owork. I could totally go without it in something like fire force (though I don't hate it as much as many), but I do appreciate it in some ecchi harem because that's what usually makes the show, lol
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I want to ask people here how they view fanservice, specifically the lewd kind (since the term is synonymous with the lewd kind) and I don't mean whether it should be or shouldn't be, I'm talking about how or what you think the service is to the fans. So, for example, let's say a new anime came out that showed nips on an occasional basis, but the anime is the type that without that, would still be good. Do you see the showing of boobs as fanservice to those who are fans of the show, or do you see it as fanservice to those who like seeing boobs? I'm genuinely curious about this, because i dont understand it at all. i LOVE seeing anime boobs to the point that i think, unless the anime is specifically targeted towards children, that nips should NEVER censored by whatever means. But i always see things where people are complaining about there being too much fanservice. I've never seen a problem with it. I see it as a garnish to the meal that is the anime, and i wish it would be in more. especially in anime where its like "we will show fully nude girls, but because of whatever reasons we have to cover SPECIFICALLY the nips."
I'm good with reserving nipples for either seinen or adult ecchi works, there's already enough horny shounen without going full nipple.

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Don't stop or neglect the story for fanservice. But don't be deterred by prudes either. But that doesn't mean it's obligatory.

If you actively want to not have any nipples to prevent your audience getting distracted from the story or disrespecting the characters as sex objects, then don't draw them. But if it's just thinking people will complain, then don't hide them, people who complain about nipples are weirdos and should be ignored. Just don't throw in a five second cut, the only point of which is to have the audience gaze at them. Because that's boring, you can do two things at the same time here.
To be fair, you don't need to see nipples to primarily think of the female chars. more like sex objects, at least that was my experience with Fairy Tail. lol

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Most of it is bad and I know people crawl out of their corners and call me woke and shit... it's just bad. It's not sexy and I don't want to stare on a 14 yo's ass.
Also most fanservice series are scared to include actual sexual themes and scenes in it. They are like these embarassed teenage boys, who talk about women's tits and ass all day, but as soon as they are in a sexual situation with a living person or people talking about in more detail about bodies and sex than just "that girl is soo hot, look at her ass!", they freeze up.
Can we stop worrying about a characters fictional age if they have the body of a porn star? At least bitching about loli's makes some sense.
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One thing that strikes me with City Hunter or Ranma 1/2, is that the shows never objectify women. City Hunter actually has no nudity, and the most explicit content of the manga is Ryo tearing down houses with his boner. And the idiot in these events is always Ryo. Ranma 1/2 (like Maison Ikkoku) is pretty much non-stop nudity at the start, yet it never feels stupid or tacked on. I think Rumiko just likes drawing naked girls.
It's meaningless one way or the other if a character is "objectified" if the content is aimed at a male audience, and implying that women themselves should be offended at the treatment of a literal object in a fictional or staged scenario, is just a condescending viewpoint towards female sexuality that is perpetuated by both society and feminists alike.
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LostSpectre said:
_Maneki-Neko_ said:
Most of it is bad and I know people crawl out of their corners and call me woke and shit... it's just bad. It's not sexy and I don't want to stare on a 14 yo's ass.
Also most fanservice series are scared to include actual sexual themes and scenes in it. They are like these embarassed teenage boys, who talk about women's tits and ass all day, but as soon as they are in a sexual situation with a living person or people talking about in more detail about bodies and sex than just "that girl is soo hot, look at her ass!", they freeze up.
Can we stop worrying about a characters fictional age if they have the body of a porn star? At least bitching about loli's makes some sense.

Besides the "bitching about a character's age" ... I just don't want to look at a character with the body and face of a young teenager in a sexual scene either. They actually look like their age and often have these round puppy eyes and baby faces. So it's a big pass.
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_Maneki-Neko_ said:
LostSpectre said:
Can we stop worrying about a characters fictional age if they have the body of a porn star? At least bitching about loli's makes some sense.

Besides the "bitching about a character's age" ... I just don't want to look at a character with the body and face of a young teenager in a sexual scene either. They actually look like their age and often have these round puppy eyes and baby faces. So it's a big pass.
I mean, female anime faces tend to all look artificially cute and young looking if you ask me, so I'm not exactly sure I follow, but I understand if they have a more petite body. In anime there doesn't seem to be much you can do to differentiate a petite adult from a younger teen, at least not according to what I have watched.
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LostSpectre said:
To be fair, you don't need to see nipples to primarily think of the female chars. more like sex objects, at least that was my experience with Fairy Tail. lol


Indeed Kiss X Sis doesn't draw nipples, and it's generally regarded as an extreme ecchi.

And also, nipples don't automatically make people into sex objects, they're just parts of the body after all. Even though it's pretty rare in anime to have female nipples in a non-sexual shot, it definitely happens. How a character is presented depends on all sorts of details and their interactions. But that can often be a major one.
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Its annoying and usually intrusive with no purpose.
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Besides the "bitching about a character's age" ... I just don't want to look at a character with the body and face of a young teenager in a sexual scene either. They actually look like their age and often have these round puppy eyes and baby faces. So it's a big pass.
I mean, female anime faces tend to all look artificially cute and young looking if you ask me, so I'm not exactly sure I follow, but I understand if they have a more petite body. In anime there doesn't seem to be much you can do to differentiate a petite adult from a younger teen, at least not according to what I have watched.

Ofc most of them look like that, but tbh... I think most of them don't look sexy or even outstanding beautiful. I don't only mean lolis, but "the average anime girl". I just have no desire to see them in sexy poses or situations and it always feels "in your face" everytime they are portrayed in that light.
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There’s tasteless fanservice and then there’s good fanservice. Fire Force = Tasteless fanservice while My Dress Up Darling = Good fanservice.

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Not a fan of it, it is distracting and makes the show look ridiculous. Not only that, it makes anime shameful to share with your friends and family members. It is already damn hard to watch anime without a headset because of all the high pitched moaning voices that's in every single new anime, but now it's also showing (half) naked bodies of the girls? No, thank you.
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_Maneki-Neko_ said:
LostSpectre said:
I mean, female anime faces tend to all look artificially cute and young looking if you ask me, so I'm not exactly sure I follow, but I understand if they have a more petite body. In anime there doesn't seem to be much you can do to differentiate a petite adult from a younger teen, at least not according to what I have watched.

Ofc most of them look like that, but tbh... I think most of them don't look sexy or even outstanding beautiful. I don't only mean lolis, but "the average anime girl". I just have no desire to see them in sexy poses or situations and it always feels "in your face" everytime they are portrayed in that light.
Yeah, if you don't want to see it then it can only be a detriment I would imagine. I think most anime girls are cute over sexy, at least if you were to take away the exaggerated breasts. I like fanservice, but I can definitely appreciate a more subtle variety where there's just attractive outfits, bikinis, etc. and not something so blatantly distracting or obvious in intent.
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Not a fan of it, it is distracting and makes the show look ridiculous. Not only that, it makes anime shameful to share with your friends and family members. It is already damn hard to watch anime without a headset because of all the high pitched moaning voices that's in every single new anime, but now it's also showing (half) naked bodies of the girls? No, thank you.
I can't think of too many anime that aren't ridiculous even if you removed the fanservice, but I wouldn't disagree with the fact it can certainly make those shows uncomfortable to watch in mixed company.
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It's about how they present it I think. Showing nude without context? absolute bad fan service. Using context but it is common boring anime cliché? most likely disgusting. Neither mainstream nor cringe? Great.

Also censoring nipple is more a censorship issue thing, not fanservice. I find that censoring nipple is really annoying. If the purpose is providing viewer with nude then go for it fully, not vaguely. Not wanting to show nude fully? then just don't show it at all since the viewer is not the target.
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In regard the nipple thing I'm of the opinion if you are going to show breast (female OR male) show the nipple.

For fanservice. For me it has a time and a place. It can be used for comedic effect, used in what is very clearly ecchi or hentai or be a part of the plot. What I don't want is bazooka bongos bouncing all over the place for absolutely no reason. Or a panty shot during a serious fight scene.
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I like seeing me some anime a$$ as much as the next guy, but if it's supposed to be a deep dramatic moment then maybe the a$$ can wait.
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Deathko said:
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There are tasteful ways of doing it and there are bad ways of doing. There should be some effort put into it. I also don't like it when it's done half-heartedly.
Examples of shows that do good fanservice-Monogatari Series, Kakegurui, Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt.
Shows that do the cheap kind of fanservice-Sword Art Online, Darling in the Franxx.

Darling has legit no nudity, and all the sexual "innuendos" are like, at the thematic core of the show.

The manga tho, that's disgusting pedobait. I'm not sure how it got published here in France. Dunno how old the characters are supposed to be, but I'm pretty sure selling full color illustrations of Ichigo and Zero Two making out is a big no-no here from a legal PoV.

Monogatari on the other hand... People are naked "just because", to feed horny teens some anime tiddies. MC is borderline assaulting little girls for the lolz, and that toothbrush scene... eeeew... It definitely tries to be artsy about it, but it's hard to find any rhyme or reason to it besides "teens like bobs"

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I could enjoy a show if the fanservice is intentional (City Hunter). I guess it's kind of what Serafos said.

One thing that strikes me with City Hunter or Ranma 1/2, is that the shows never objectify women. City Hunter actually has no nudity, and the most explicit content of the manga is Ryo tearing down houses with his boner. And the idiot in these events is always Ryo. Ranma 1/2 (like Maison Ikkoku) is pretty much non-stop nudity at the start, yet it never feels stupid or tacked on. I think Rumiko just likes drawing naked girls.

If I compare it to more modern "fanservice", I can't help but feel either anime's target audience changed for the worst, or Japan is going back in time since the 70s/80s.


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Completely unnecessary, just a gimmick to get horny people to watch your show most of the time. When it isn't just a gimmick it's the entire point of the show which isn't a good thing either.
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As long as it doesn't make senseless or forced situations like they do in a lot of ecchi anime and fits the story, nudity wouldn't be a problem to see.
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My favorite fanservice is the comedic kind. The kind that makes you laugh and get a boner at the same time. My two favorite fanservice scenes are the toothbrush scene from Nisemonogatari and the beach scene with the twins and sunblock from Date a Live II.
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
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