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Aug 18, 2022 5:43 PM
#51
animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Well good news for you, next season won't have any of your complaints, and don't pretend you're not gonna watch it because despite supposedly hating the show, you seem to spend a lot of time in MT threads, so I doubt you'd willingly be left out of the loop. So yeah, we'll see you again next year, enjoy your 3rd season of Re:Zero by the way.Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids, blatantly supplying fan service of 14 year olds in order to titillate and arouse the audience. It’s clear what the demographic is. Not just that, but then the MC (with the mind of a 40 year old) starts groping this 14 year old, all the while this show is acting like it’s all fun and games, refusing to condemn him for his transgressive actions throughout the entirety of this show. So yeah, my arguments are completely valid Who the fuck said I like re:zero? I mean, at least it doesn’t sexualize literal fucking kids. Though, I will admit that if the show stops being decadent and transgressive it may very well be great. Kinda hard to believe when the first 2 seasons have been permeated with fanservice of 14 year old girls, and a disgusting main character who apparently thinks it’s normal to grope 14 year olds. |
Aug 18, 2022 9:19 PM
#52
animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: I mean you bring up Re:Zero a lot, so of course I assumed you were a fan of it. Just so you know, in the future arcs Rudeus literally doesn't show any sexual or romantic attraction toward anyone who isn't an adult, the only reason he did in the first season was because he was reborn with child's body, so none of complaints will apply next season.animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Well good news for you, next season won't have any of your complaints, and don't pretend you're not gonna watch it because despite supposedly hating the show, you seem to spend a lot of time in MT threads, so I doubt you'd willingly be left out of the loop. So yeah, we'll see you again next year, enjoy your 3rd season of Re:Zero by the way.Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids, blatantly supplying fan service of 14 year olds in order to titillate and arouse the audience. It’s clear what the demographic is. Not just that, but then the MC (with the mind of a 40 year old) starts groping this 14 year old, all the while this show is acting like it’s all fun and games, refusing to condemn him for his transgressive actions throughout the entirety of this show. So yeah, my arguments are completely valid Who the fuck said I like re:zero? I mean, at least it doesn’t sexualize literal fucking kids. Though, I will admit that if the show stops being decadent and transgressive it may very well be great. Kinda hard to believe when the first 2 seasons have been permeated with fanservice of 14 year old girls, and a disgusting main character who apparently thinks it’s normal to grope 14 year olds. That still doesn’t excuse the repetitive sexualization of 14 year olds |
Aug 18, 2022 10:11 PM
#53
RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: pasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back |
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Aug 18, 2022 10:51 PM
#54
RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. |
Aug 18, 2022 11:12 PM
#55
pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial |
Aug 18, 2022 11:15 PM
#56
Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality |
Aug 18, 2022 11:41 PM
#57
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). |
Aug 19, 2022 12:21 AM
#58
RetroGressive said: let me quote cause you have bird memory, "RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI" and "Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids". all you were doing is blatantly spewing bullshit. find me one fucking moment when it "blatantly glorifies" or even glorifies at all or suck on deez nuts. fun busyness going around threads baiting people into arguments with bullshit claims but you pooped your pants, wipe yourself up and have a nice daypasanoid said: RetroGressive said: pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial |
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Aug 19, 2022 12:32 AM
#59
pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: let me quote cause you have bird memory, "RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI" and "Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids". all you were doing is blatantly spewing bullshit. find me one fucking moment when it "blatantly glorifies" or even glorifies at all or suck on deez nuts. fun busyness going around threads baiting people into arguments with bullshit claims but you pooped your pants, wipe yourself up and have a nice daypasanoid said: RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial A different person said that obscene message ya dumb fuck. And Mushoku Tensei blatantly showcases a literal 14 year olds panties, then shows fan service featuring that minor |
Aug 19, 2022 12:42 AM
#60
RetroGressive said: I see, sorry, I missed that you are 2 different dumbasses with 2 different points. anyhowpasanoid said: RetroGressive said: pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial A different person said that obscene message ya dumb fuck. And Mushoku Tensei blatantly showcases a literal 14 year olds panties, then shows fan service featuring that minor there is a difference between showcasing and glorifying. you could say fucking news channel on tv glorifies theft, rape and murder because thats all they talk about. does that sound right within your warped idiot logic? |
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Aug 19, 2022 1:03 AM
#61
pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: I see, sorry, I missed that you are 2 different dumbasses with 2 different points. anyhowpasanoid said: RetroGressive said: let me quote cause you have bird memory, "RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI" and "Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids". all you were doing is blatantly spewing bullshit. find me one fucking moment when it "blatantly glorifies" or even glorifies at all or suck on deez nuts. fun busyness going around threads baiting people into arguments with bullshit claims but you pooped your pants, wipe yourself up and have a nice daypasanoid said: RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial A different person said that obscene message ya dumb fuck. And Mushoku Tensei blatantly showcases a literal 14 year olds panties, then shows fan service featuring that minor there is a difference between showcasing and glorifying. you could say fucking news channel on tv glorifies theft, rape and murder because thats all they talk about. does that sound right within your warped idiot logic? It glorifies the transgression when the show continually makes light of child groping |
Aug 19, 2022 1:20 AM
#62
Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. |
Aug 19, 2022 3:40 AM
#63
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. From panty flash to groping to child porn. Dude's losing his arguments in desperation. I'm assuming all your arguments are based on what you read from RebelPanda's reviews. No wonder you are so narrowminded |
V1P3R0PAug 19, 2022 3:50 AM
Aug 19, 2022 4:05 AM
#64
RetroGressive said: you glorify idiocy by being this dumb. I'm done with the topicpasanoid said: RetroGressive said: pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: let me quote cause you have bird memory, "RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI" and "Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids". all you were doing is blatantly spewing bullshit. find me one fucking moment when it "blatantly glorifies" or even glorifies at all or suck on deez nuts. fun busyness going around threads baiting people into arguments with bullshit claims but you pooped your pants, wipe yourself up and have a nice daypasanoid said: RetroGressive said: counter argument to what? you have thrown in ridiculous accusations and now its my job to prove you wrong? prove yourself right first. otherwise I could say your mom sucked all the dicks in the neighborhood without any proof behind the claim and now it's your job to prove me wrong.pasanoid said: RetroGressive said: oh fuck off. you bitches learn one thing that isnt even true and throw it around like an actual argument. you can stick your rezero up your ass for all I care if you love it so much but its still boring and smallpasanoid said: Yuta_JJK0 said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. RE ZERO claps MUSHOKU TENSEI oh wow, another rezero fan going around dropping hot takes. everyone cares about your dumb opinion, believe it What? Mushoku tensei blatantly glorifies the sexualization of kids, how are you then condemning Re:Rezo, which at the very least isn’t pedophiliac? I’m not even a fan of Re:Zero. That fact that you have no counter argument as to suddenly ascertain that I “love re:zero” is truly laughable about being a rezero fan, you certainly act like one so Im not taking it back What? All I was doing was bringing light to the atrocities in Mushoku Tensei. All I said about re:zero was that it doesn’t sexualize minors ya antisocial A different person said that obscene message ya dumb fuck. And Mushoku Tensei blatantly showcases a literal 14 year olds panties, then shows fan service featuring that minor there is a difference between showcasing and glorifying. you could say fucking news channel on tv glorifies theft, rape and murder because thats all they talk about. does that sound right within your warped idiot logic? It glorifies the transgression when the show continually makes light of child groping |
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Aug 19, 2022 4:54 AM
#65
V1P3R0P said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. From panty flash to groping to child porn. Dude's losing his arguments in desperation. I'm assuming all your arguments are based on what you read from RebelPanda's reviews. No wonder you are so narrowminded Woah, resorts to being condescending. Typical |
Aug 19, 2022 6:15 AM
#66
RetroGressive said: That’s the only argument you have against the show, unsurprisingly. Also how does this show “glorify” the sexualization of kids? BTW Age of Consent is 13 so fanservice of a 14 year old is technically legal. Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids, blatantly supplying fan service of 14 year olds in order to titillate and arouse the audience. It’s clear what the demographic is. Not just that, but then the MC (with the mind of a 40 year old) starts groping this 14 year old, all the while this show is acting like it’s all fun and games, refusing to condemn him for his transgressive actions throughout the entirety of this show. So yeah, my arguments are completely valid Also when are you going to criticize the story, characters and stuff. All you talk about is pedophilia and one instance of that somehow makes the show immediately “bad” to you. |
Aug 19, 2022 7:29 AM
#67
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. |
Aug 19, 2022 1:23 PM
#68
Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. |
Aug 19, 2022 1:41 PM
#69
Rembe said: RetroGressive said: That’s the only argument you have against the show, unsurprisingly. Also how does this show “glorify” the sexualization of kids? BTW Age of Consent is 13 so fanservice of a 14 year old is technically legal. Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids, blatantly supplying fan service of 14 year olds in order to titillate and arouse the audience. It’s clear what the demographic is. Not just that, but then the MC (with the mind of a 40 year old) starts groping this 14 year old, all the while this show is acting like it’s all fun and games, refusing to condemn him for his transgressive actions throughout the entirety of this show. So yeah, my arguments are completely valid Also when are you going to criticize the story, characters and stuff. All you talk about is pedophilia and one instance of that somehow makes the show immediately “bad” to you. It's glorification when the show makes light of groping a 14 year old. The story fails to provide retribution for these absolutely heinous crimes. And fanservice of a 14 year old is not legal. Child pornography laws and age of consent laws are different. And the fact that you're defending this decadence with a truly appalling law is gross. They have set the age of consent so low not because 13 year olds can plan for pregnancy and not fuck up their life, but to provoke more births in a Japanese society where fapping to cartoon children is more common than having children. The provided site shows the complete disconnect between corrupt bureaucrats and actual psychology studies. https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/11/20/16677180/age-consent-teenage-psychology-law-roy-moore |
Aug 19, 2022 2:09 PM
#70
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's an overused type of comedy that has existed since anime's inception. Again, refer to classical anime/manga such as Dragonball and Great Teacher Onizuka where such types of comedy exist. The author is borrowing ideas from classics because this style of comedy has shown to work in the past. There is no glorification involved, because that implies that a work is encouraging bad behavior which it is not. Do you need me to explain to you how comedy works? |
OpticflashAug 19, 2022 2:12 PM
Aug 19, 2022 2:17 PM
#71
Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's an overused type of comedy that has existed since anime's inception. Again, refer to classical anime/manga such as Dragonball and Great Teacher Onizuka where such types of comedy exist. The author is borrowing ideas from classics because this style of comedy has shown to work in the past. There is no glorification involved, because that implies that a work is encouraging bad behavior which it is not. Do you need me to explain to you how comedy works? I would like to know how continually and dryly showcasing arousing scenes featuring a minor is comedy. At least in Great Teacher Onizuka there's usually a punchline, pantomime or some other use of comedic mechanisms. This doesn't make these scenes right, of course. But at least they server a purpose other than titillating the audience. I seriously don't recall many instances of the minor fanservice having any comedic functionality at all. |
Aug 19, 2022 5:43 PM
#72
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's an overused type of comedy that has existed since anime's inception. Again, refer to classical anime/manga such as Dragonball and Great Teacher Onizuka where such types of comedy exist. The author is borrowing ideas from classics because this style of comedy has shown to work in the past. There is no glorification involved, because that implies that a work is encouraging bad behavior which it is not. Do you need me to explain to you how comedy works? I would like to know how continually and dryly showcasing arousing scenes featuring a minor is comedy. At least in Great Teacher Onizuka there's usually a punchline, pantomime or some other use of comedic mechanisms. This doesn't make these scenes right, of course. But at least they server a purpose other than titillating the audience. I seriously don't recall many instances of the minor fanservice having any comedic functionality at all. COMEDY101: What fundamentally induces laughter is the bizarre and eccentric. We find humor in scenes where events unfold or a character behaves in a way that is least expected, and in striking contrast to our preconceived 'rules' of reality or of what is normal. Comedy is fundamentally NOT a reference to virtuousness or having moral scruples. People do not laugh because somebody does a righteous thing that results in a happy outcome, nor is the aforementioned a requirement for laughter. That is why you can make a decapitation in a show funny or horrible depending on how its presented. Laughter is commonly thought of as a positive response, but the trigger for it need not be positive nor does it imply that the things we find funny should be a moral guidance for society. Quite the contrary, people can find humor in events characterizing misfortune. One example is "Epic fail" videos where a person fails at a task and suffers a minor injury or embarrasses themselves. Why do people laugh at this? Not because it reinforces positivity or 'goodness', but because it is bizarre. Another example is assault and violence used for laughter, such as the portrayal of a homosexual man being attacked in Family Guy. Why do people laugh at this? Not because hate, discrimination and violence are positive values, but because the whole scene is bizarre. Sexual comedy has been prevalent in anime since its inception. What makes sexual comedy comedy? The answer to that question is that the 'pervert' acts in a way that is bizarre, through facial expressions or self-embarrassment. The 'pervert' breaks all our preconception of what is normal and appropriate, and it is this oddness in the character that induces laughter. An example of this is Onizuka in GTO constantly tries to peek up the skirts of high school girls. His pervertedness makes his character comical as he is making a fool of himself. In the beginning of Dragon Ball, Master Roshi asks 15 year old Bulma to flash him as a favor. The scene funny not because what he does is a good thing nor does it tell the audience that sexual harassment is good, but because what he does is bizarre. In Mushoku Tensei, Rudeus's perversion is played for laughs. What makes the scenes funny? It is not because groping people is 'good'. It is not because sexual harassment is a positive thing and should be encouraged in society (and the show does not glorify sexual harassment). It is not even about the girls and women he looks at, because they are simply props for his reaction. It is because his character is a representation of what is odd. The funny moments are not when we look at a panty shot, but the goofy facial expressions he makes and the thoughts he has. Why is it funny? Because it is bizarre. Comedy is not a reference to what is good; the show is not telling us that he's a good person or a role model for how to behave. What makes sexual comedy comedy in Mushoku Tensei is that his reactions and thoughts are bizarre. |
OpticflashAug 19, 2022 6:41 PM
Aug 19, 2022 11:19 PM
#73
Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's an overused type of comedy that has existed since anime's inception. Again, refer to classical anime/manga such as Dragonball and Great Teacher Onizuka where such types of comedy exist. The author is borrowing ideas from classics because this style of comedy has shown to work in the past. There is no glorification involved, because that implies that a work is encouraging bad behavior which it is not. Do you need me to explain to you how comedy works? I would like to know how continually and dryly showcasing arousing scenes featuring a minor is comedy. At least in Great Teacher Onizuka there's usually a punchline, pantomime or some other use of comedic mechanisms. This doesn't make these scenes right, of course. But at least they server a purpose other than titillating the audience. I seriously don't recall many instances of the minor fanservice having any comedic functionality at all. COMEDY101: What fundamentally induces laughter is the bizarre and eccentric. We find humor in scenes where events unfold or a character behaves in a way that is least expected, and in striking contrast to our preconceived 'rules' of reality or of what is normal. Comedy is fundamentally NOT a reference to virtuousness or having moral scruples. People do not laugh because somebody does a righteous thing that results in a happy outcome, nor is the aforementioned a requirement for laughter. That is why you can make a decapitation in a show funny or horrible depending on how its presented. Laughter is commonly thought of as a positive response, but the trigger for it need not be positive nor does it imply that the things we find funny should be a moral guidance for society. Quite the contrary, people can find humor in events characterizing misfortune. One example is "Epic fail" videos where a person fails at a task and suffers a minor injury or embarrasses themselves. Why do people laugh at this? Not because it reinforces positivity or 'goodness', but because it is bizarre. Another example is assault and violence used for laughter, such as the portrayal of a homosexual man being attacked in Family Guy. Why do people laugh at this? Not because hate, discrimination and violence are positive values, but because the whole scene is bizarre. Sexual comedy has been prevalent in anime since its inception. What makes sexual comedy comedy? The answer to that question is that the 'pervert' acts in a way that is bizarre, through facial expressions or self-embarrassment. The 'pervert' breaks all our preconception of what is normal and appropriate, and it is this oddness in the character that induces laughter. An example of this is Onizuka in GTO constantly tries to peek up the skirts of high school girls. His pervertedness makes his character comical as he is making a fool of himself. In the beginning of Dragon Ball, Master Roshi asks 15 year old Bulma to flash him as a favor. The scene funny not because what he does is a good thing nor does it tell the audience that sexual harassment is good, but because what he does is bizarre. In Mushoku Tensei, Rudeus's perversion is played for laughs. What makes the scenes funny? It is not because groping people is 'good'. It is not because sexual harassment is a positive thing and should be encouraged in society (and the show does not glorify sexual harassment). It is not even about the girls and women he looks at, because they are simply props for his reaction. It is because his character is a representation of what is odd. The funny moments are not when we look at a panty shot, but the goofy facial expressions he makes and the thoughts he has. Why is it funny? Because it is bizarre. Comedy is not a reference to what is good; the show is not telling us that he's a good person or a role model for how to behave. What makes sexual comedy comedy in Mushoku Tensei is that his reactions and thoughts are bizarre. How are these thoughts “bizarre”. And is anything bizarre therefore funny? The fact that this show can so easily devolve it’s characters for what you think is comedy is appalling in of itself. This is also an extremely overused trope found practically everywhere in anime. It is no longer “odd” or “bizarre” when the majority of fucking anime uses the same cliche. |
Aug 20, 2022 10:23 AM
#74
RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Opticflash said: RetroGressive said: Rembe said: RetroGressive said: animegamer245 said: RetroGressive said: Who cares, the fact that you troll threads for this series instead of spending time in Re: Zero threads, which seems to be something you worship is honestly pathetic._cybersadist_ said: Yogen-No-Ko said: So after avoiding the entire Isekai genre for years I finally decided to give Mushoku Tensei a try because people have praised it as "the only good Isekai" or "one of the better Isekai out there" and well... I certainly wasn't disappointed. The biggest thing that immediately caught my attention is how well the characters are written and how great the worldbuilding is. I'm genuinely interested to see where the characters will go and how the whole story will unfold. Now, obviously it still has annoying tropes and things like Rudeus being an absolute pig a lot of the time but I can honestly forgive him for that because he actually actively tries to become a better person and it's pretty satisfying to see his evolution. Aside from that I also thought that the series might have been better if it wasn't an Isekai but instead just a regular fantasy series but I'm not sure if I still think that because the overall message of the series seems to be that everyone deserves a second chance and that people can in fact change. What did you guys think of Mushoku Tensei? Where there also people among you who tried the Isekai genre for the first time like me? For now I'm genuinely excited for season 2 next year. Isekai is such an OVERHATED genre there are so many good aspects of it... I personally love Mushoku Tensei,and kinda liking Rezero too. Shounen fans get triggered whenever they see isekai getting praise that's on them. The Light Novel of MT is even better,at least I enjoying it more...so much that I didn't bother watching Rezero and directly started reading it. Mushoku tensei is blatantly pedophiliac though Nah, re:zero is one of like 3 good isekai. And mushoku tensei is not one of these three. Also this isn’t really a troll thread because my complaints are completely valid, saying otherwise is being ignorant The only complaint you’ve given is “pedophilia.” You haven’t at all given valid criticisms for the show. Also learn to accept people’s opinions bro. All I have been giving is valid criticism, but going more in-depth: this show continually glorifies the sexualization of kids No it doesn't... you're misunderstanding how sexualization as a form of comedy works. There is no glorification. How is explicitly showcasing a minors panties “comedy”. How is groping a minor “comedy”. How is titillating the audience with arousing scenes of a 14 year old “comedy”. I seriously question your morality Do you know how comedy fundamentally works, as in what causes people to laugh at certain things but not at others? It seldom has to do with morality; you can portray a head being cut off as comedic or awfully tragic depending on how it's framed in a cartoon. Sexualization as a form of comedy has been present since the early days of anime. See a classic such as Dragon Ball where Master Roshi is depicted as a 'dirty old man' who peeks at young girls and women as a form of comedy. It does not contain the message you believe it does (that it glorifies bad behavior). Constantly displaying child porn is not comedy. Nor is groping a child, then doing a 360 and saying, “nah, it’s all fun and games!”. First, it does not display child porn. Second, you have demonstrated no understanding of how comedy works. This type of comedy has been used for decades in anime; Dragon Ball, Great Teacher Onizuka, etc. Explain it if you comprehend it. Alright, maybe it isn't child porn. However, Mushoku Tensei does explicitly show sexually suggestive scenes featuring a 14 year old girl. Repeatedly. Many of these scenes literally hold no purpose other than to provide pedophiliac fan service, with no comedic undertones. Unless looking at a 14 year old's underwear is your idea of quality comedy. It's supposed to be funny. It's an overused type of comedy that has existed since anime's inception. Again, refer to classical anime/manga such as Dragonball and Great Teacher Onizuka where such types of comedy exist. The author is borrowing ideas from classics because this style of comedy has shown to work in the past. There is no glorification involved, because that implies that a work is encouraging bad behavior which it is not. Do you need me to explain to you how comedy works? I would like to know how continually and dryly showcasing arousing scenes featuring a minor is comedy. At least in Great Teacher Onizuka there's usually a punchline, pantomime or some other use of comedic mechanisms. This doesn't make these scenes right, of course. But at least they server a purpose other than titillating the audience. I seriously don't recall many instances of the minor fanservice having any comedic functionality at all. COMEDY101: What fundamentally induces laughter is the bizarre and eccentric. We find humor in scenes where events unfold or a character behaves in a way that is least expected, and in striking contrast to our preconceived 'rules' of reality or of what is normal. Comedy is fundamentally NOT a reference to virtuousness or having moral scruples. People do not laugh because somebody does a righteous thing that results in a happy outcome, nor is the aforementioned a requirement for laughter. That is why you can make a decapitation in a show funny or horrible depending on how its presented. Laughter is commonly thought of as a positive response, but the trigger for it need not be positive nor does it imply that the things we find funny should be a moral guidance for society. Quite the contrary, people can find humor in events characterizing misfortune. One example is "Epic fail" videos where a person fails at a task and suffers a minor injury or embarrasses themselves. Why do people laugh at this? Not because it reinforces positivity or 'goodness', but because it is bizarre. Another example is assault and violence used for laughter, such as the portrayal of a homosexual man being attacked in Family Guy. Why do people laugh at this? Not because hate, discrimination and violence are positive values, but because the whole scene is bizarre. Sexual comedy has been prevalent in anime since its inception. What makes sexual comedy comedy? The answer to that question is that the 'pervert' acts in a way that is bizarre, through facial expressions or self-embarrassment. The 'pervert' breaks all our preconception of what is normal and appropriate, and it is this oddness in the character that induces laughter. An example of this is Onizuka in GTO constantly tries to peek up the skirts of high school girls. His pervertedness makes his character comical as he is making a fool of himself. In the beginning of Dragon Ball, Master Roshi asks 15 year old Bulma to flash him as a favor. The scene funny not because what he does is a good thing nor does it tell the audience that sexual harassment is good, but because what he does is bizarre. In Mushoku Tensei, Rudeus's perversion is played for laughs. What makes the scenes funny? It is not because groping people is 'good'. It is not because sexual harassment is a positive thing and should be encouraged in society (and the show does not glorify sexual harassment). It is not even about the girls and women he looks at, because they are simply props for his reaction. It is because his character is a representation of what is odd. The funny moments are not when we look at a panty shot, but the goofy facial expressions he makes and the thoughts he has. Why is it funny? Because it is bizarre. Comedy is not a reference to what is good; the show is not telling us that he's a good person or a role model for how to behave. What makes sexual comedy comedy in Mushoku Tensei is that his reactions and thoughts are bizarre. How are these thoughts “bizarre”. And is anything bizarre therefore funny? The fact that this show can so easily devolve it’s characters for what you think is comedy is appalling in of itself. This is also an extremely overused trope found practically everywhere in anime. It is no longer “odd” or “bizarre” when the majority of fucking anime uses the same cliche. Bizarre as in a character acts in a goofy way that one would never expect a person to act in real life. That is what is funny. No, not everything that is 'bizarre' is funny. See: Horror. The fact that this show can so easily devolve it’s characters for what you think is comedy is appalling in of itself. And why is that exactly? This is also an extremely overused trope found practically everywhere in anime. It is no longer “odd” or “bizarre” when the majority of fucking anime uses the same cliche. Odd or bizarre does not mean uncommon in anime. It's a reference to the unexpected and irrational compared to real life behavior or events. Yes, it is overused but I am just explaining to you how the comedy works. No, the majority of anime does not use the same trope. |
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