Overlord IV Episode 7 Discussion

Yorginvik said:
I'm annoyed that Ainz and his team are bad or unwilling to take a moment to be reasonable and have a discussion with the people they want to subjugate for more than a mere moment. I guess that's why they are the bad guys. The clan leader, reasonably because he probably needed to live yet still annoyingly did not even bring up or question why the people Ainz sent would not give a 'reason' for why they are subjugating them and why they are powerful rulers. The clan leader at least said '60k of us, hard for us to submit without a good reason' but did not push towards the extra mile in talking with Ainz's people the first time or afterwards when Ainz arrived.

Yorginvik said:
I'm annoyed that Ainz and his team are bad or unwilling to take a moment to be reasonable and have a discussion with the people they want to subjugate for more than a mere moment. I guess that's why they are the bad guys. The clan leader, reasonably because he probably needed to live yet still annoyingly did not even bring up or question why the people Ainz sent would not give a 'reason' for why they are subjugating them and why they are powerful rulers. The clan leader at least said '60k of us, hard for us to submit without a good reason' but did not push towards the extra mile in talking with Ainz's people the first time or afterwards when Ainz arrived.

DeanP said:
Lmao Frost dragon died like a clown with Grasp heart

DreadfulLaw said:
felt kinda bad for the quagoa, but subjugating those dragons was epicccc

Zprotu said:


grasp heart is a 9th tier spell btw

would kill anyone below level 60 instantly

and the frost dragon was level 46

Allografter said:


Yes, which is why he attempted to use the spell to gauge the level of Hejinmal i.e. was he greater than level 60?

Mariklyn said:
To the LN readers is their any significance in Ainz using the world item to get into the treasure room?

Inexplicable said:
I'm getting tired of annoying Shalltear stealing the screentime that should have belonged to Albedo lol. Although gotta admit, her standing on a pile of corpses looked pretty badass.
Also I wish there was an actual fight with dragons... Them surrendering in a matter of seconds felt too rushed imo

Akihap said:
I don't know if this is normal compared to the novel, but I felt that this episode was extremely rushed, the pace was extremely weird : It seemed like the characters never had time to talk. I love Overlord but this episode was one of the worst i have seen in term of pace in the Overlord series

ghier said:
I don't know about you guys, but the amount of time devoted to this single joke/plot convenience is getting frustrating. Just let interesting shit happen in your story!

I don't need to see the henchmen fawning over the overlord when they should be recognizing his flaws ... for the thousandth time. It ain't funny anymore. It hardly ever was funny. So stop doing it please and thank you.

billybub said:


You realize Ainzs and crew aren't the good guys right?

SuntProstMare said:
Overlord is about Ainz being a bad person, this is why Everyone love the show

thunderkitten667 said:

Well, there’s a very good reason why it keeps happening: if they were to realize Ainz was not only less intelligent than them, but also was in fact just a mere mortal human behind an avatar, they would most likely deem him unworthy of their servitude, and destroy him. This thought has been mentioned a few times by Ainz, and actually ties into a lot of Ainz’s lies to the members of Nazarick. The only one who sees through Ainz’s charade is Pandora’s Actor, but he respects Ainz too much as he is his creator. It may be annoying but it makes complete sense within the confines of the character development that has already been established, so it’s not as if it doesn’t make sense. I can empathize with it being annoying a tiny bit but there’s really no other way to write around it even as a throwaway gag because every time Ainz does anything his subordinates will inevitable question his motivations for doing it and applaud him for his supposed genius.

ghier said:

Idk man, I think it would be amazing for the personalities of the NPC’s to start branching out a bit more. Maybe question where their priorities lie because of some realized misperceptions around Ainz and influences of the world they were transported into. That way, you’d have more than just world domination as a plot and with some interesting character developments.

Like I don’t care too much if everything makes perfect sense. Logical consistency is important, but it’s not the only or even most essential aspect. As it is right now, there really isn’t a single interesting character among the main group. And only a mildly interesting plot.

Here’s some ideas:

• Demiurges realizes that Ainz isn’t as capable as he thought, and begins to wonder if he could best him in a battle of wits. Maybe he even comes to believe that Ainz desires such a battle, and sees it as a way to serve him by obliging.
  
• Albedo could have the same realization. Maybe she becomes jealous and decides that she wants Ainz to be a plaything like Climb is for Princess Renner.
  
• Sebas could decide to leave the tomb to live with that girl he saved, abandoning his loyalty to the supreme ones.
  
• And there are probably other options to work with.
  

Any of those ideas and others can be made logically consistent by changing some things here and there, and they’re way more interesting ideas for the direction of the plot than what the creator has chosen to go with.

You could even have it culminate in Ainz having mental breakdown with a repeat of what happened before the start of the show … all his friends leaving him.

thunderkitten667 said:

Well, the plot of Overlord at the moment isn’t necessarily world domination. Ainz wants to be able to protect his kingdom and loved ones, so he is learning as much about the world as possible while also becoming a formidable force so others won’t easily threaten him. It’s the whole reason Albedo has become Nazarick’s ambassador and is on a mission to create trade for their new kingdom. Meanwhile, Demiurge is creating as many magical tools and items as possible at his farms for both security and to create income. That being said, what you mentioned does sound interesting. Then again, who is to say that all this will not come to pass anyways? Most likely Ainz’s mortality and humanity will be unveiled at some point, and at that moment will come the reckoning of truth, whether the guardians will decide to continue serving him or rebel and take over his kingdom. Honestly, this is most likely what everything is leading up to inevitably anyways.