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Jul 2, 2022 10:25 AM
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AMAZING EPISODE WITH A LOT OF PROGRESSIONS AND THE VISUAL IN THE OP IS CHEF'S KISS, THE COMPOSITION LIKE THIS SHOT SPECIFICALLY.


That shot was extremely good.
Jul 2, 2022 11:00 AM
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Aoi just had his whole world crushed. Being told he could never make it as a forward no matter how much he tries. That his best position on the field is playing full back defender. Completely shoving him to the back of the field positioning. That will definitely have an adverse effect on his state of mind. Aoi did good in the match earlier in the episode even scoring that sweet goal. Seeing the higher ranked match that Kuribayashi played and starred in. Trying to observe what he can from such an exceptional player, taking a shot at those killer passes Kuribayashi did. Aoi couldn't really control them himself but he still did good in that match. Which makes the coach's decision to change his position quite odd. Have to see how it goes.
Jul 2, 2022 11:17 AM

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I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.
MusikaJul 2, 2022 11:36 AM
Jul 2, 2022 11:35 AM
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Wow. Just when Aoi was getting the hang of playing soccer, Coach Fukuda reveals the real reason why he was brought to Tokyo Esperion. Not to play as a forward, but as a defender. Essentially, this makes more sense as it will allow Aoi to pick his spots and create other opportunities for his team to score goals. Of course, Aoi's primitive view of the game doesn't see that and he starts getting mad at Fukuda. It sucks that he lied to Aoi, but it was the only way to convince him to come over here. It just shows that Aoi still has a lot to learn about the game of soccer as defenders can also score when they are on the attack. I guess Aoi never had the chance to play different positions because he always wanted the ball. Even when I was playing soccer in elementary school, I played both defender and goalie when I needed to because I wasn't athletically gifted to play the forward position.

This is another learning curve that Aoi has to overcome if he wants a spot on the world stage in the next year or so. He'll eventually learn that playing defender is also fun especially with his bird's eye view of the field.
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And this is when Ao Ashi becomes one of the GOAT sports manga

The author is a genius with this twist.
Jul 2, 2022 12:01 PM
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I'm so happy the story took this direction. I thought it would've been pretty hurried if he got promoted already, and this turn was both unpredictable and what the series needed.
Playing at wingback makes perfect sense, though I think a modern number 5 would be a good fit for him too. It also felt necessary to put Ashito down to earth once again, he still needs to mature but I'm liking his slow progression.
Either way, this chapter was great, best one so far imo.

On other note, the visuals for the new opening are stunning, I was genuinely impressed, glad I wasn't the only one who noticed. Second cour vibes looking really promising :)
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What an incredible episode this was, it left me speechless in the end. The first half was mainly showing us Kuribayashi's talent and his personality. Aoi had to learn from him in order to get better. He played really well in the last 2 matches as a forward. Even managed to use the tricks of Kuribayashi. Coach Nozomi had a depressed face throughout the whole episode and it made sense in the end when Coach Fukada asked Nozomi to bring Aoi for a talk. This was probably one of the best and realistic conversations in an anime. Aoi's stuttering and stops in between his sentences was just too heartbreaking to listen. The fact that he has to change his whole career as a forward to a full-back. It suits him better though if you view it but HIS dream is completely shattered though. He has been playing football since a young age to become the best forward but not to become a full-back player. This single moment probably changed his whole life, the reason why he played football, his dream. They're all over and Aoi has to start from point 0. Coach Fukada's facial expression was MAD fucking scary.


The opening visuals are probably one of the best too! Jesus fucking christ, the shot where Aoi is hanging at the goal is just too fucking beautiful.
Could someone tell me what chapter this is? Might start from this point after the anime.


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Jul 2, 2022 1:04 PM

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I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.

Ah, that definitely makes more sense and I can see that happening. I thought he was better suited for midfield as well but having him play defender first before transitioning to mid field is definitely a good way to progress the story assuming it does indeed follow that path. Though Fukuda does say that Aoi fits the fullback in his dream team so it's possible that it was always his intention to have him play full back.
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Could someone tell me what chapter this is? Might start from this point after the anime.


This is adapted up until chapter 62, so you can start with 63
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.

Ah, that definitely makes more sense and I can see that happening. I thought he was better suited for midfield as well but having him play defender first before transitioning to mid field is definitely a good way to progress the story assuming it does indeed follow that path. Though Fukuda does say that Aoi fits the fullback in his dream team so it's possible that it was always his intention to have him play full back.


I'm only a anime viewer so I really don't know but to me he is the perfect regista, deep Lying playmaker or roaming playmaker. Someone that has good position and starts defensive plays really fast. His only issue is probably no clue how to defend or position itself. His godlike vision can help him on that and the fast way to learn how to defend and start plays is as ball playing defender. This 2nd central back in modern football needs to do long passes and vertical passes. for that you need to be good at passing and have good vision. You can leave the hard defensive work to the other central back and that's where the togashi comes to help. I only see him staying as central back if his lack of agility and acceleration like the coach said would not allow him to be a midfield.

Anyway I think we can all agree that is not fit for forward and he doesn't have the 1vs1 to play as winger or as offensive midfield. The author can probably make him improve on that but looks like he is going for the realist part and not give him messi or ronaldo quality to pass 3 or 4 players. He has also the other guy in the main team that will come to A team and plays in the position we all think he could be. The guy that he tried to imitate is way better. HE probably will be not as good with the vision because of the no eagle vision.

I also think giving him a more defensive role will make him perfect to be a caption and set the pace. The guy loves soccer, has a personality that pull the team morality up and being on defensive side as a defensive playmaker can do that.

I would put him playing wing back for now but I understand why they want him to be more as a fullback. That way you focus more on the defense and you learn more about it. A wing back focus to much on the offensive side and not the right call to learn how to defend and position itself. But, isn't that the position of asari?

"Don't forget, the positions you are given are yours and yours alone" - Fukuda
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damn, prod ig actually stepped up their game this episode; the anime doesn't look lifeless anymore. here's hoping it stays this way for the rest of the cour.

For everyone confused/intrigued about the switch to fullback and not midfield, this is not a spoiler but I'll put the tag anyway



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I think early 60s. 61? 62?
wait 13eps covered 60 chapters

ye, they skipped a lot of exposition regarding soccer and tactics, best read around chapter 46 when the first B team match is about to start.
Jul 2, 2022 3:15 PM
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when fukuda said aoi is more suitable as a full back... what comes to my mind right away is TAA
Jul 2, 2022 3:34 PM
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Coach Fukuda is playing fifa career mode and modded Aoi to a Full-Back ang gives him H/H work rates
Jul 2, 2022 3:52 PM

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So finally Ashito will be left back! A rather surprising choice given that it will be necessary to defend, who does not know. At worst, I thought who will be attacking midfielder or winger. Even that, he would still have grumbled. It's center forward or nothing! I also really like the new opening and ending!
Jul 2, 2022 4:05 PM
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Oh wow, i thought Ao Ashi get a week break, like a certain sport anime from the same season and day. But nope, the journey of Ashito continue with a cruelty coming up directly from his trusted man! Shit. Coach Fukuda just be cruel right in the end, after such a happy time Aoi got on the first-half, especially since he said something that normal people will surely get a permanent mental breakdown with that....

Still, considering how Aoi still have a lot of supports coming up from his left and right, and don't ever forget to mention about there's a one hell of a cute supporters that Prod.IG decided to make her as a star of the ed theme song. Will become a good fuel for him to motivated again to play soccer. Then, don't be afraid, Aoi, lets make a good turning point from now and so on!
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Jul 2, 2022 4:17 PM
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Damn, I could tell something was going to wrong for Ashito when he was in the clubhouse with Fukuda with how happy and grateful he was being but I wasn't expecting Fukuda to drop such a bomb on him, it might have been better to tell him his level as a forward isn't good enough but telling him he's never going to make it as a forward must be so scarring since his existence up until now has been all about it being a forward.

I can understand why Date looked so torn the when speaking to Fukuda about it, he seemed like he'd be the strict and ruthless kind but he actually really cares about his players and it seems like Fukuda is actually the one who will do anything for what he aims for just like how he brought Ashito to the team without letting him know of his real intentions.

It's sad how this episode ends like that when in the game Ashito ended up doing very well although he started off on the wrong foot trying to imitate Kuribayashi too much lol. The reactions of the other players filled with a burning rage was funny.
 

Jul 2, 2022 4:35 PM
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The real story actually starts now. Will be explained how it all makes sense including Aoi's positional change to Fukuda's words in the next episode since it suits perfectly..


Playing to your strengths:

In football no player is perfect in every department.
An example is Messi being world class at goal scoring, play making and passing but when it comes to defending he's ofcourse no where near the level of a van Dyck...

Even the most "all rounded" midfielders of all time are jack of all trades and master of none types (except passing attributes becz that's a midfielder's primary job to link the backline with the front)

No player is perfect but no player needs to be perfect because every player plays to their strengths.

In case of Kuribayashi, who lacks a strong physique but covers up his weaknesses with his speed, balance and quick decision making.

Aoi doesn't have that yet he has been lacking acceleration and explosiveness.. don't confuse it with speed...
He also lacks the movement of a forward to make it easier for everyone else to pick his run into the box and he can't run the channels... He lacks the instinct to be in the right place at the right time ..

He lacks physical strength to hold the ball up and bring the inside forwards or wingers infield so they can cut across and have a cruling shot or run at the bing central defender...or the midfielders into the play without losing it....he needs to learn how to bully bigger center backs ..

Kuribayashi meanwhile has a lean body. He knows "how" to use his body.
His body is the reason he is fast, agile and a good dribbler of the ball....

Since his body is suited for fast and agile plays, 1-2 plays.. he doesn't really believe to get a pump up.
Gaining muscles means increase in strength but decrease in agility and movement. Just look at all the quick dribblers, like Messi, Hazard, Neymar no one is build like a body builder. They have enough muscles that doesn't hinder their strengths in speed.

What the body has naturally is the best for the player to work on. Kuribayashi doesn't need to bulk up but he will need to gain few muscles when he grows up but he needs to gain them at a natural rate that suits his body and not hinder his strengths and perks.

A coach can make or break a player with his decisions...
Let see how it goes for aoi....
His mom though....ufff
 

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Watching this episode was intense and exciting! Ashito doing his best to be moved to A team. Sadly, coach Fukuda said that he needs to give up the position forward and play as defender instead. This is getting exciting now. Every episode I've been waiting for more of Ashito's imporvement and growth. Now that this trial has been shown, I wonder what next would he do.


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Best episode soo far, and the op/end are with the best animation in this year.

Really fucking cool!!!!
Jul 2, 2022 5:39 PM
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Bruh don’t hate on defenders bro… It’s fun.
Jul 2, 2022 6:06 PM

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Loved the Episode...

In real life we always need someone else who makes us OPEN OUR EYES.

Really good vibes in the new OP song...

PS: Defender is the Best position. Make a Goal is something special, but DENY it to someone... sometimes its even more.
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.


The whole reasoning makes no sense at all. From a footballers perspective, there are so many things wrong with the whole shift. There is only one reason I can think of why the coach would say the things he did, I will elaborate at the end.
1. Defenders need to be physical, and while Aoi has stamina he is nowhere near physical enough.
2. Defenders need explosive power as well, so that point is kind of moot. One could say defenders need it even more, depending on play style.
3. While defenders need a lot of vision to anticipate the opponents movement, there is no need for them to have vision as expansive as Aoi.
4. Defenders are only good if they enjoy defending. If you don't enjoy defending, there is no way to be a good defender.

Now to what I think the intention is.
I think why the coach switched Aoi is to prepare him further. He saw that Aoi is able to see his teammates and plays he could make, but he also lacks the precision and speed needed for an attacker. So now he wants him to learn to also look at the enemy positions more and train a defensive kind of skills, so that in the end he can put him as a defensive midfielder, the position Aoi is obviously made for.
As a defensive midfielder you are in control of the game, you have to make the plays happen, you need a lot of stamina, but not be as explosive as either front or back, but you also need to know how to defend, otherwise you are a liability.
I think making him a defender is just an acceleration of the growth to get him where the coach really needs him, I still think the choice how he did it is rather radical and may be ill advised in most cases.
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.

Ronaldinho is a very bad example, he was super technical and creative, absolutely not the player Aoi is. Aoi is more of a defensive midfielder that can control the game, maybe someone like Schweinsteiger or Xavi (also dubbed Chameleon eyes for his 360° vision). (He is certainly not Pirlo with that pass accuracy. xD)
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.


The whole reasoning makes no sense at all. From a footballers perspective, there are so many things wrong with the whole shift.


For those who are baffled and thought how "illogical" Ashito's move as a defender (in his case, a full-back), this is how modern football has evolved. Klopp (Liverpool) and Guardiola (Man City) have turned full-backs into playmakers.

Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold and Andrew Robertson show how the full-back has become the new chief playmaker, occupying traditional winger positions or even outside No.10 positions. Meanwhile, Pep Guardiola in Man City's 2017-18 season, Kyle Walker and Fabian Delph frequently became auxiliary central midfielders, swinging on a pendulum between central midfield, full-back, and winger. Between Liverpool and City, ‘full-back’ has been shown to be a rather loose term for a set of positions that can cover a huge portion of the pitch.

The modern full-back is an all-rounder, and usually the most versatile player on the pitch.
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nocivo said:

I'm only a anime viewer so I really don't know but to me he is the perfect regista, deep Lying playmaker or roaming playmaker. Someone that has good position and starts defensive plays really fast...

I would put him playing wing back for now but I understand why they want him to be more as a fullback. That way you focus more on the defense and you learn more about it. A wing back focus to much on the offensive side and not the right call to learn how to defend and position itself.


Well said, I think for now playing him as a full-back is better so Ashito can learn how defenders do their job, especially full-backs when one side pushes up, the other fullback will slot on as another defender in the backline. In his case, when Asari's pushes up Ashito needs to learn when he should slot back in defense or when he needs to be dictating the game as their playmaker.
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zwolf12 said:
Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.


The whole reasoning makes no sense at all. From a footballers perspective, there are so many things wrong with the whole shift. There is only one reason I can think of why the coach would say the things he did, I will elaborate at the end.
1. Defenders need to be physical, and while Aoi has stamina he is nowhere near physical enough.
2. Defenders need explosive power as well, so that point is kind of moot. One could say defenders need it even more, depending on play style.
3. While defenders need a lot of vision to anticipate the opponents movement, there is no need for them to have vision as expansive as Aoi.
4. Defenders are only good if they enjoy defending. If you don't enjoy defending, there is no way to be a good defender.

Now to what I think the intention is.
I think why the coach switched Aoi is to prepare him further. He saw that Aoi is able to see his teammates and plays he could make, but he also lacks the precision and speed needed for an attacker. So now he wants him to learn to also look at the enemy positions more and train a defensive kind of skills, so that in the end he can put him as a defensive midfielder, the position Aoi is obviously made for.
As a defensive midfielder you are in control of the game, you have to make the plays happen, you need a lot of stamina, but not be as explosive as either front or back, but you also need to know how to defend, otherwise you are a liability.
I think making him a defender is just an acceleration of the growth to get him where the coach really needs him, I still think the choice how he did it is rather radical and may be ill advised in most cases.

One thing I can say is you have to change your perception on the role of fullback in modern football. A fullback is not just supporting player who make overlapping runs and spam crosses from the wings anymore, but they can also dictate the game (being playmaker) from their own position. This is not a fiction, this is also what happen in real life football with the top team in europe, and even JLeague too (that league is more advanced than what you think). The anime will explain more about it for the next couple episodes, but don't expect to get a full complete explanation. We need 2nd or maybe 3rd season for that.
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.

The manga made it more clear:
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This new OP animation is what I wanna see more of in this anime! I really hope Production I.G puts more time and resources into the second season! I love this anime but the sakuga leaves a lot to be desired. Aoashi has the potential to be a cultural phenomenon. Football is the world’s most followed sport and good media that focuses on it is sparse. With the right marketing along with the growth that the anime market is seeing, it’s worth the investment.
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An incredible new op and ending also cant believe ashito Is turning into a defense now lets see how these news affect him on next episodes tho i think he just would see that he can play a better football in that position so he just would end up liking it
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Enjoy that bitter feeling guys. Keep watching and see how much Aoi will grow! Don't discuss to deep about the position cause it will end up as spoiler. Read the manga to see if your theory is right 😏
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Seems like his skills suit a playmaking centre-mid over a fullback, guy knows diddlysquat about defending.

Interesting and realistic plot point though. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

I can see the idea, the best teams of all time all had at least one very attacking minded fullback (marcelo at real, dani alves at barca. cafu at milan as a few examples)


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Goddamn, the new OP is beautiful, ED is pretty good too.

I don't know much about soccer, but given Ashito's abilities, I definitely agree with Fukuda in that Ashito fits more in a non-front line position. It do be cruel and painful though. Really looking forward to see how Ashito deals with this.
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been waiting for this to be animated since i read the manga, just wanted to see how then emotions would be portrayed by person that plays aoi
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Love how we got a proper football discussion in anime forum like this, can't wait for more content
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i honestly dont get why fukuda wants to make him a full back, imo he seems way more suited for midfielder role
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I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but if you are a fan of Man City (Pep) or Arsenal you should realize this.


Especially a team with the best set of inverted wingbacks, for instance like Liverpool with TAA and robbo
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I don't know if this is a spoiler or not, but if you are a fan of Man City (Pep) or Arsenal you should realize this.


Especially a team with the best set of inverted wingbacks, for instance like Liverpool with TAA and robbo

Robbo is not inverted, he is your traditional fullback, while TAA, depending on the opponent he can play as inverted or overlapping fullback, both on a high level. When he played as inverted, usually the midfielder (Elliot/Henderson) is the one who provide width, and TAA move to the middle occupying space that is left by the midfielder..
Also wingback is different than fullback..
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Seems like his skills suit a playmaking centre-mid over a fullback, guy knows diddlysquat about defending.

Interesting and realistic plot point though. Looking forward to the rest of the season.

I can see the idea, the best teams of all time all had at least one very attacking minded fullback (marcelo at real, dani alves at barca. cafu at milan as a few examples)


Very true, attacking fullbacks is definitely the meta in many leagues. Man City and Liverpool are good examples.
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Musika said:
I always thought Aoi had a playmaker fit, like a Center Mid or Attacking Mid.

Notice the words of Fukuda: "You will never again play as a forward". He did not say "You will forever play as a defender". So my guess is that Fukuda wants Aoi to play defender, full-back nonetheless, so he can understand the defender's position and mind. He already grasped the Forward mindset, so all that's left is the defendant one. He will then be moved to a mid-position where he will be "the reincarnation of Ronaldinho, even though he is still alive", having a complete view and control of the whole court.

Hungry Heart did something similar, so it's not too far-fetched.


I suppose that could be it, either way, he'll for sure do better as a midfielder or a defender, but it will be so harsh for him to transition into defending and understand that a defender is as important as a forward player
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Especially a team with the best set of inverted wingbacks, for instance like Liverpool with TAA and robbo

Robbo is not inverted, he is your traditional fullback, while TAA, depending on the opponent he can play as inverted or overlapping fullback, both on a high level. When he played as inverted, usually the midfielder (Elliot/Henderson) is the one who provide width, and TAA move to the middle occupying space that is left by the midfielder..
Also wingback is different than fullback..

Ohh, thanks for the correction lol, a friend of mine mentions robbo being an inverted alot (even though he plays fm)
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Love the new opening & damnn as a anime only watcher for Ao Ashi… I can see some development upcoming & it’s gonna be 🔥
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Hey Nozomi, why the long nose? I mean face, lol.

Lmao I died when I saw this in the episode. That might be one of the most obviously off model shots I've ever seen in anime
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Wow. I wasn't expecting Ashito to be switched to defender. His reaction was quite tragic to watch.
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I don’t even want to think about what percentage of the budget went toward the new OP. It has no reason looking that good when the rest of the show has average animation at best.

The switch of Aoi from forward to defender was a surprise. I’m not sure it will last, but I’m interested to see how it goes. Aoi was really over the line in how he reacted to the news. Yelling at his coach and grabbing his collar. If the genius head coach says you will be a national level player by switching positions then you’ll enjoy playing more in the long-run.
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KyloAL said:
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Robbo is not inverted, he is your traditional fullback, while TAA, depending on the opponent he can play as inverted or overlapping fullback, both on a high level. When he played as inverted, usually the midfielder (Elliot/Henderson) is the one who provide width, and TAA move to the middle occupying space that is left by the midfielder..
Also wingback is different than fullback..

Ohh, thanks for the correction lol, a friend of mine mentions robbo being an inverted alot (even though he plays fm)

Ohh that must be an fm thing, he is considered as inverted wingback there, wingback just means a more attacking fullback, but I personally associate wingback only in 343 formation tho...
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I don’t even want to think about what percentage of the budget went toward the new OP. It has no reason looking that good when the rest of the show has average animation at best.

The switch of Aoi from forward to defender was a surprise. I’m not sure it will last, but I’m interested to see how it goes. Aoi was really over the line in how he reacted to the news. Yelling at his coach and grabbing his collar. If the genius head coach says you will be a national level player by switching positions then you’ll enjoy playing more in the long-run.
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I think early 60s. 61? 62?
wait 13eps covered 60 chapters


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Interesting episode, didn't expect those turn of events.

I figured his talents would be better suited as a midfielder than a defender, his vision and ability to find goal scoring plays seem suited for someone who can control the field but I guess a full back could work too. It's just that I have never seen Ashito defend against someone. I always thought he'd convert to midfield given the things he was learning.

OP visuals were fantastic and the ED was so adorable. Hana best girl. <3

He will be midfielder for sure. He must play in middle because he has best eye in team.
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watching this episode atm and just passed through the new opening song, SUCH GOOD VISUALS AND SMOOTH ANIMATION WOW?! waaaaay better than the first one, clearly wasn't expecting that
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Another absolutely awesome episode!
but its very hard to see the devastated Ashito...oh my...
as for the Manager sometimes being harsh is part of the job! i don't have quarrels with it! since Manager old man KNOWS what's he's doing.
5/5!
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