Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken (2020) Episode 80 Discussion

phantomfandom said:
Hyunckel's new boyfriend meets Hyunckel's ex boyfriend, 3P?

Illyricus said:
Okay, the action was nice and seeing Larhart back is good (I always thought they kinda wasted him by killing him in his debut arc), but they're abusing a bit too much of the character resurrections lately, and this is likely the main weak point of the series. It has happened a lot with multitude of characters through the anime (Crocodine, Hyunckel, Popp, Avan, Hym...), but this one was, I don't know, unnecessary? I understand why they may have brought Avan back, but this one felt it was a way to save Hyunckel and little more, and I don't know what bringing back Larhart at this point of the series is gonna add to it. They better give a good explanation of how he came back to life, cause it hasn't been foreshadowed at all.

Also, the king was a complete joke lol. He was only a threat cause Hyunckel and Hym were super injured. It makes sense from a chess viewpoint, but I was really looking forward to his performance, since in his first scene with Vearn it looked like if he was a ferocious blood knight, but at the end he was a cowardly clown. It tells when Zaboera was a more competent antagonist.

Anyway, I hope the fight against Mystvearn ends being good at least.

Yaakuntik said:

Well, to be fair, Crocodine didn’t die not even once. When he was defeated by Dai, he was taken back to headquarters where he was placed in that healing chamber where they said he had 50/50 chance and he survived. Then when he was attacked by Hyunckel, he again was taken care of by Hyunckel’s butler which completely healed him. Then, he dove in to the lava using his axes vortex magic to ahold himself and rescue Hyunckel. Yes Hyunckel should have take damage from the lava but we can assume his aura kept him safe long enough to be rescued.

If i had to fault something, it would be that they didn’t explain how Hyunckel didn’t take damage from the lava in those few seconds he was completely submerged. But regardless, he didn’t die at that time. And besides that instance, neither Hyunckel nor Crocodine have been on the verge of death. Yes there have been times when they have been completely exhausted, battered, and out of stamina, but they have never “died” again.

Popp did die but it was explained how he survived and in the world of this manga, that explaining was complete fine. Avan also returned and he also explained how he managed to survive and where he was this whole time.

If there are any miraculous comebacks in this anime, it would probably only be that of Hym. Even Larhart’s return will be explain in the next episode in a way that makes sense in this story. It won’t be some BS explaining that for sure.

Illyricus said:
I mean, I knew that Crocodine and Hyunckel never died and that Popp's resurrection got an explanation, which is why I didn't mind those situations.

However, now with Avan, Hym and now Larhart it feels like the author did revived a lot of deceased characters for the final arc with either so/so explanations (Hym) or using things that aren't mentioned or properly explained until the dead character returns (like Avan). I can buy Avan's revival, cause he's the master of the heroes and has always been an important character that is fullfiling an active role in the story (like opening the gate of the palace or twarting Killvearn's traps), but bringing back Larhart was a bit too much, especially after Hym just returned like two episodes ago.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the series and this isn't nearly enough to ruin it for me, but the author has abused from this trope too much in this arc.

Yaakuntik said:


I guess we'll just have to wait and see what role Larhart still has to play. I don't know all the details either so I hope his come back wasn't just for the sake of bringing him back.

Though it does make sense for the story that if Larhart survived, that he would go catch up to and possibly join the hero's party. After all, before he died he had a change of heart and wanted to help Hyunckel and Popp save Baran and his son Dai. So it would make sense that he would go and try to help Dai survive the final fight with Vearn.

Le-Conteur said:


There will be explanations
There will be narrative purpose

Larhalt died in episode 26 / he's back on 80
If we saw what happened to him in episode 27 , i imagine people would be cooler whith this returnal....
In other hand, we had a surprise in this episode 80, that's fun, no ?

But there's a narative purpose behind that tied to Hyunckel and Dai. And it's building further great moments.

I know Avan + Hym + Larhalt returnals are too much. But let's have fun. Epicness is coming

thepath said:
Larhalt attack on King Maximum reminds of Omae wa mou shinderu (you are already dead) in Fist of North Star anime

Illyricus said:
I mean, I knew that Crocodine and Hyunckel never died and that Popp's resurrection got an explanation, which is why I didn't mind those situations.

However, now with Avan, Hym and now Larhart it feels like the author did revived a lot of deceased characters for the final arc with either so/so explanations (Hym) or using things that aren't mentioned or properly explained until the dead character returns (like Avan). I can buy Avan's revival, cause he's the master of the heroes and has always been an important character that is fullfiling an active role in the story (like opening the gate of the palace or twarting Killvearn's traps), but bringing back Larhart was a bit too much, especially after Hym just returned like two episodes ago.

Don't get me wrong, I still love the series and this isn't nearly enough to ruin it for me, but the author has abused from this trope too much in this arc.