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Mar 26, 2022 5:26 PM
#1
If you’re put off by the teaser pv, it’s almost certainly not gonna be what the show will really by like. I’m sure it’s gonna try to pull a madoka and start off pretending to be an outdated romcom but then reveal some big psychological twist Anime romcoms overall have been way different the past 5+ years, typically having less fan service and (imo) off-putting tropes. This pv uses the most outlandish tropes of the genre, and they’re doing that intentionally. They even have the girl running late with toast in her mouth. Nobody writes that nowadays unless they want the audience to be thinking of it as a trope. Since this isn’t a parody, it’s most likely setting up to subvert the genre. The key visual doesn’t fit at all with what is shown in the pv or a romcom in general and matches more with the psychological genre. The hexagons on the sides are very telling too. Maybe he’s in a simulation without knowing, or there’s some kind of murder game, or who knows. But the discount chikorita on the stairs is probably this show’s kyubey or like the game mascot. If it seems weird that an original anime coming out this year looks like it has the writing of a bad 00’s harem, then it should. They’re setting it up like that on purpose. Idk if it’ll be any good, but I would say don’t write this off just based on the pv. |
Mar 26, 2022 5:49 PM
#2
The PV reeks of typical harem romcom, so I'm definitely skipping this. However, I like your line of reasoning and willingness to make your thoughts known. There's not even a synopsis, but you're taking your shot, and I respect that. Time will tell how well this topic ages. |
Mar 26, 2022 6:09 PM
#3
Mar 26, 2022 6:20 PM
#4
Mar 26, 2022 6:30 PM
#5
I think so too. Guess it will be some kind of genre deconstruction or parody like Oresuki eps 1-4. However, I wouldn't surprise if this show will be just a standard harem but with foreign girls (who have nothing foreign except their names and surnames). |
Mar 26, 2022 6:31 PM
#6
Oh also I’m thinking Flops is referring to computers, but I don’t know enough about teraflops and stuff to really make a guess. My shot in the dark is that “love flops” could be used to power or run something and the plot is someone wanting to generate them via this romcom setup |
Mar 28, 2022 1:53 AM
#7
https://youtu.be/w6shD2Fd_IM?t=110 Here's a synopsis of the anime I think this is a generic harem romcom. |
Mar 28, 2022 7:36 PM
#8
I can't even tell if you're being serious. |
Mar 29, 2022 10:01 PM
#9
Why the heck would you make such assumptions OP? This anime Genres: Comedy, Romance Theme: School Madoka Genres: Drama, Suspense Themes: Mahou Shoujo, Psychological I say we saw what there is to see, and it's a cliché fan-service BS anime that will end up Ranked #5000 or something on MAL Of course, there's always a possibility of me being wrong. 5% at best. |
Mar 29, 2022 11:59 PM
#10
So I’ll go into more detail on why I think this, though this will probably end up being overly long lol. After I first saw the pv I couldn’t shake a nagging feeling that there is more to this that they aren’t showing. The main initial reason was the running late with toast trope. I’m considering trying to find when the last time this was legitimately used, because it’s been a seriously long time. I mentioned that in the past 5+ years romance anime has overall been a lot different than they had been, like with less anime-specific tropes and fan service, and has been imo more enjoyable for a wider audience, but the toast trope died way before that. It’s really only used now when they want to parody the trope. I can’t emphasize enough how weird it would be for a 2022 anime to use that specific trope in any way other than specifically to make the audience aware of the fact it’s a trope. From that idea then it made me start looking more closely. I’ve seen various translations of the synopsis since I made my original post and one points out the fact that he’s experiencing stereotypical romance plots the morning that he meets all these girls. The pv and kv don’t give me parody vibes at all, so there has to be a narrative reason for this. Assuming the translation was accurate at least. So what do we know for sure? We know that he is experiencing overly stereotypical romance beats, something that the show acknowledges, and that this takes place in a slightly futuristic setting. That’s going off of the kv as well as a translation of the pv where they casually mention robots (probably the rabbit on the kv). So if I’m wrong, then this will just be a stereotypical school harem romcom that takes place in a futuristic setting. Why futuristic? Something just to give a bland harem at least some kind of flavor? Maybe. But if there is a big tone shift later in the show then the sci-fi part is already right there. Plus another synopsis translation mentions he starts the day with a strange tv fortune telling him he’ll have these encounters. Definitely could be a set up to a larger plot point. Also somewhere in the pv translation, might have been the very beginning, it says something like every beginning has an end, and imo vaguely gives off an ominous feeling that didn’t really match what you’d expect from a light hearted romcom. This specifically makes me think even if there’s not a major sci-fi plot twist, there will at least be a major tonal shift. Like either very sad or dark or both. Also idk if pv’s are often censored, but if the shots in the pv are the same as what we’ll see in the show then it’s actually kind of weird that they don’t show any underwear in this. Like there are a few instances where there’s an upskirt camera angle or the part where the toast girl lands on the guy, those tropes are typically just done for the sake of fan service. So the fact that the fan service tropes happen without the actual fan service is weird. I can’t imagine they would release a show like that, like who would be the target audience then? This is kind of why I think this show isn’t completely targeted towards the same audience that would watch a typical 00’s harem. And I kinda doubt they would censor underwear for the pv but then still keep the erection shot. Also isn’t it weird that we don’t know what studio is making this? Maybe it’s not, idk how common it is to not know the studio right away. But one thought is what if they’re intentionally hiding the studio for now. I’m not like super knowledgeable on all the different studios, but I could see this being shaft. Let’s say for example this was shaft. If they had announced this and said it’s an original shaft anime, I would imagine there would be a lot more people expecting another madoka-like genre surprise. I think that’s basically everything for now. I’m very convinced that there will be a major tonal change into becoming something you can take seriously (or at least that will be the studio’s goal). And whatever the plot twist ends up being, it’ll probably be sci-fi and/or psychological. Anything more specific than that are really just complete guesses. Idk I’ve seen a good amount of romance anime and there’s just too many things here that don’t add up to me. Especially the key visual, like that just does not at all match the pv tone. And again, an original anime releasing this year that is basically a 00’s harem sounds pretty close to unbelievable to me. Couple quick extra guesses: The male friend is described as someone who like knows a lot about what’s going on in the school and stuff. The description is done light heartedly and is the stereotypical male friend, but I think they’ll use that trope and make it so his character like REALLY knows what’s going on. Also I will be shocked if nobody dies. |
Mar 30, 2022 12:25 AM
#11
It has rom-com, harem, slice of life, and drama. Yeah, looks like typical harem from 00s to me. |
Apr 5, 2022 6:04 PM
#12
If it is a generic harem rom-com, then I'm glad. I'm not interested in having that genre die, especially not to satisfy a bunch of people that hate the more risque elements of anime. |
Apr 6, 2022 11:03 PM
#14
May 26, 2022 1:39 PM
#16
Well, we have two of the quints plus Rie Takahashi in the main cast, so that's something... One can only hope that the writing and story direction makes good use of the seiyuu talent... |
Jul 1, 2022 7:23 PM
#17
Scrolling through and saw this one. Yeah I don't know how someone COULD look at that PV and think "Yeah they're playing it straight it's definitely just going to be some harem romcom garbage". The setting, strange bits of framing, hell they literally are doing the oh-no-I'm-gonna-be-late-so-I'm-running-with-toast-in-my-mouth bit. I mean come on. Obviously the poster helps that line of reasoning because I mean, check those outfits and expressions, but there's so many other little bits sprinkled in throughout. The weird 'cartoon' flash early in the PV and the odd focuses on bits of futuristic technology, including a whole ass futuristic city setting. From other promo materials, they advertise the MC as a "very ordinary boy", and 4 out of 5 of the girls are all transfer students from different countries (US, China, Bulgaria, Germany) who all show up at the same time, with new teachers to boot. The best friend is also apparently "self-proclaimed". I'll have a slice of humble pie if it's actually as generic as it's trying to make itself look, but I'm 99% sure there's going to be some kind of hard turn here. I don't know if it'll be any good, but super sure there will be one. |
Jul 26, 2022 6:05 AM
#18
Jul 26, 2022 10:23 AM
#19
I don’t know why people are giving you shit for this and acting like it’s some crazy, far-out theory. We literally have three anime airing this season that did the exact same thing, lol. But I agree with you. The trailer seems like it’s just a normal harem romcom. But it also makes it quite obvious that the setting takes place in a futuristic society, and I somewhat doubt that they’d use such a setting unless it’s related to the plot in some significant way. In which case, I’m about 80% sure that this show is gonna have some sort of twist to it. Whether it turns into action, psychological, thriller, or just heavy drama, I have trouble believing that it’s as innocent as it’s trying to make itself seem. I’m willing to eat my words though, especially since this show seems right up my alley either way. |
Jul 27, 2022 3:59 AM
#21
You might want to pull your arm out of the haystack, cause you're grasping at straws. |
Well I for one already loved Lain. |
Jul 28, 2022 7:15 AM
#22
The boy finds a letter in his locker ... ... I think I've seen it before. |
Jul 30, 2022 10:42 PM
#23
It's Passione, so I expect boobs and lots of fanservice |
Aug 18, 2022 2:13 AM
#24
Well the character designs look good and they hired a lot of great seiyuu for this, giving it a shot |
Aug 29, 2022 6:12 AM
#25
You might be onto something OP. "Staff Director: Nobuyoshi Nagayama (Happy Sugar Life) Assistant Directors: Midori Yui (Zoku Touken Ranbu: Hanamaru), Fujiaki Asari (Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Gou episode director)" Happy Sugar Life was DARK and violent. Higurashi is also super dark and creepy. Plus the cover image looks really strange for an 00's style rom-com. Like dark stairs with strange poses... Might be worth the watch if it is a subversion, but I am still holding my breath. I love a good deconstruction of a genre. Keyword here being good. For example, Madoka set the bar pretty high or magical girl deconstruction that few other anime that tried to do the same thing were just mid, or actually sucked. Only thing I am iffy about is the teacher. Age gap romance with that type of power imbalance makes me uncomfortable. Sexual situations between students are no issue for me but teacher and student is off-putting (perhaps partially because I taught Japanese students before). IF this is really a boring 00's style rom com it is easily a pass for me. IF it is what you claim OP could be worth a watch, but I am still skeptical on how well it is going to pull that off. |
Aug 29, 2022 11:25 AM
#26
Skizzelle said: quoting this simply for the effort you put into itSo I’ll go into more detail on why I think this, though this will probably end up being overly long lol. After I first saw the pv I couldn’t shake a nagging feeling that there is more to this that they aren’t showing. The main initial reason was the running late with toast trope. I’m considering trying to find when the last time this was legitimately used, because it’s been a seriously long time. I mentioned that in the past 5+ years romance anime has overall been a lot different than they had been, like with less anime-specific tropes and fan service, and has been imo more enjoyable for a wider audience, but the toast trope died way before that. It’s really only used now when they want to parody the trope. I can’t emphasize enough how weird it would be for a 2022 anime to use that specific trope in any way other than specifically to make the audience aware of the fact it’s a trope. From that idea then it made me start looking more closely. I’ve seen various translations of the synopsis since I made my original post and one points out the fact that he’s experiencing stereotypical romance plots the morning that he meets all these girls. The pv and kv don’t give me parody vibes at all, so there has to be a narrative reason for this. Assuming the translation was accurate at least. So what do we know for sure? We know that he is experiencing overly stereotypical romance beats, something that the show acknowledges, and that this takes place in a slightly futuristic setting. That’s going off of the kv as well as a translation of the pv where they casually mention robots (probably the rabbit on the kv). So if I’m wrong, then this will just be a stereotypical school harem romcom that takes place in a futuristic setting. Why futuristic? Something just to give a bland harem at least some kind of flavor? Maybe. But if there is a big tone shift later in the show then the sci-fi part is already right there. Plus another synopsis translation mentions he starts the day with a strange tv fortune telling him he’ll have these encounters. Definitely could be a set up to a larger plot point. Also somewhere in the pv translation, might have been the very beginning, it says something like every beginning has an end, and imo vaguely gives off an ominous feeling that didn’t really match what you’d expect from a light hearted romcom. This specifically makes me think even if there’s not a major sci-fi plot twist, there will at least be a major tonal shift. Like either very sad or dark or both. Also idk if pv’s are often censored, but if the shots in the pv are the same as what we’ll see in the show then it’s actually kind of weird that they don’t show any underwear in this. Like there are a few instances where there’s an upskirt camera angle or the part where the toast girl lands on the guy, those tropes are typically just done for the sake of fan service. So the fact that the fan service tropes happen without the actual fan service is weird. I can’t imagine they would release a show like that, like who would be the target audience then? This is kind of why I think this show isn’t completely targeted towards the same audience that would watch a typical 00’s harem. And I kinda doubt they would censor underwear for the pv but then still keep the erection shot. Also isn’t it weird that we don’t know what studio is making this? Maybe it’s not, idk how common it is to not know the studio right away. But one thought is what if they’re intentionally hiding the studio for now. I’m not like super knowledgeable on all the different studios, but I could see this being shaft. Let’s say for example this was shaft. If they had announced this and said it’s an original shaft anime, I would imagine there would be a lot more people expecting another madoka-like genre surprise. I think that’s basically everything for now. I’m very convinced that there will be a major tonal change into becoming something you can take seriously (or at least that will be the studio’s goal). And whatever the plot twist ends up being, it’ll probably be sci-fi and/or psychological. Anything more specific than that are really just complete guesses. Idk I’ve seen a good amount of romance anime and there’s just too many things here that don’t add up to me. Especially the key visual, like that just does not at all match the pv tone. And again, an original anime releasing this year that is basically a 00’s harem sounds pretty close to unbelievable to me. Couple quick extra guesses: The male friend is described as someone who like knows a lot about what’s going on in the school and stuff. The description is done light heartedly and is the stereotypical male friend, but I think they’ll use that trope and make it so his character like REALLY knows what’s going on. Also I will be shocked if nobody dies. |
Sep 3, 2022 6:19 PM
#27
I'm watching for the pink haired girl voiced by the Nino Nakano VA |
Sep 5, 2022 12:30 PM
#28
Would a crap production hire A level VA talent? Anything is possible, but the worst thing for me would be to waste 20 min to an hour on it. |
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Sep 5, 2022 7:42 PM
#29
I was skimming through the shows that came out next season and the cover image caught my eye. This isn't what you'd expect to see for a boring romance. And yeah, the trailer makes it look lame but that ties into what OP was saying, that it's a feint. Plus the synopsis...that's telling us this won't just be a happy fun time. The staff also seems like it's too much for them just doing something generic. So I'm with OP here, I'm expecting something not normal. |
Sep 9, 2022 3:01 AM
#30
I'll bet my precious username that it is a typical ecchi harem anime. Considering the other two manga the author has worked on are also generic dog water, I'm not holding out that this will be different. And nobody working on the anime gives me the vibes that we're fixing to see a plot twist. |
Sep 13, 2022 11:42 PM
#31
I didn't take your post seriously at first tbh, but the script is from same the writer of Chaos;Child VN (and he worked on S;G 0 and S;G Phenogram) so at least I don't expect this anime to be something generic/boring. (here's his page on VNDB: https://vndb.org/s6155 ) edit: there's a manga adaptation and it just seems like a normal ecchi rom-com story: https://j9jp.com/mg/renai-flops/ |
Tsukumo_YuumaSep 14, 2022 12:03 AM
Sep 24, 2022 5:28 PM
#33
Interesting theory, will see if there are any twists, even if not it looks like fun enough to just turn off your brain and enjoy but I am going in with low expectations just in case. |
Sep 25, 2022 7:51 AM
#34
Sep 25, 2022 7:52 AM
#35
Brother the female characters LITERALLY LOOK THE SAME; you can't say this isn't gonna be a generic harem trash anime |
"Only one with the courage to shoulder the burden of their own fate can be called a hero.." |
Sep 28, 2022 11:02 PM
#36
what the hell i will give it a chance just for the heck of it, made a convincing argument. |
Sep 29, 2022 7:09 PM
#37
chamba11 said: what the hell i will give it a chance just for the heck of it, made a convincing argument. Is this going to be a harem? Coz from the trailer it does looks like a harem ! but in the mal tags it isnt mentioned |
Sep 30, 2022 2:08 AM
#38
Just look at the studio resume, that's all I'm gonna say |
Sep 30, 2022 4:37 AM
#39
Oct 2, 2022 6:32 AM
#40
Manga is heavy ecchi. But the anime looks tame as fck, so it'll be probably a toothless harem without fan service. So it's jus going to flop either since it's not going all way and will probably be censored. Either way I haven't heard of any uncensored or ecchi version, no to mention I've yet to hear abt a at-x airing where most ecchi borderline h anime are aired uncensored. |
"Even villains have standards" -Accelerator- |
Oct 11, 2022 1:42 AM
#41
Midway through the PV, when the protagonist is in bed, you can see he's doing the Marty McFly waking up pose from Back to the Future. Too specific not to be a reference. The series is written by Yasumoto Tooru, known for his work on the Steins;Gate series. The same writer inserted that very same BttF pose reference into another game he worked on, which also featured time travel concepts. I'm betting all-in that this is gonna be a time travel story. |
Oct 11, 2022 8:31 AM
#42
Whatever the show turns out to be, I think I'll watch it anyways. I need more trashy harem shows in my life and if it turns out that a slightly darker plot twist happens, I'll still watch it |
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Oct 11, 2022 11:32 PM
#43
maybe I will save all the fan service clips and skip the rest.. and put it in my bentai collection |
Oct 12, 2022 4:43 AM
#44
Oct 12, 2022 4:58 AM
#45
Lolicon said: I'll bet my precious username that it is a typical ecchi harem anime. Considering the other two manga the author has worked on are also generic dog water, I'm not holding out that this will be different. And nobody working on the anime gives me the vibes that we're fixing to see a plot twist. It looks like the anime will have non of the fan service, meaning it'll be a censored harem show with no fan service. While having all the antics etc. Like seriously who is this show for, which audience are they trying to catch. |
"Even villains have standards" -Accelerator- |
Oct 12, 2022 11:37 AM
#46
AcceleratorAngel said: ... While having all the antics etc. Like seriously who is this show for, which audience are they trying to catch. The ones who have never ever seen any ecchi anime in their live, maybe? Because for anybody else this is about the most generic piece of trash ever. It's like they condensed every cheap ecchi trope into its very blandest form and then glued a bunch of them together. It is soooo unbelievably bad. |
Oct 12, 2022 11:53 AM
#47
Was excited that I finally got to watch a 2000's harem anime style because this was a breathe of fresh air, I even forgot the last anime I watched that looks like this, then I saw this thread... I was thinking you're just overthinking stuff BUT then I saw the actual cover art, the one with the Tokyo Tower, it does kinda fishy just like what Lycorico and Akiba Maid Sensou did to us. We didn't have any damn clue of what Lycorico and Akiba Maid Sensou are all about during the PV. But I hope we are wrong, it would be really a dick move if they pulled off some DDLC shit on this one albeit will be interesting, but I just want to watch a show where I can turn off my brain. I don't want any Donnie Darko or Steins Gate shit. |
Oct 12, 2022 1:31 PM
#48
Lolicon said: your first mistake is looking at the mangaka and not the director and script writer considering this is anime original and the manga is just advertisement they gave to a mangaka. I'll bet my precious username that it is a typical ecchi harem anime. Considering the other two manga the author has worked on are also generic dog water, I'm not holding out that this will be different. And nobody working on the anime gives me the vibes that we're fixing to see a plot twist. the script writer worked on steins;gate 0 and the director has ALOT of credits |
Oct 12, 2022 1:32 PM
#49
EgatammaN said: the script writer actually wrote for steins gate, so you might wanna skip this one Was excited that I finally got to watch a 2000's harem anime style because this was a breathe of fresh air, I even forgot the last anime I watched that looks like this, then I saw this thread... I was thinking you're just overthinking stuff BUT then I saw the actual cover art, the one with the Tokyo Tower, it does kinda fishy just like what Lycorico and Akiba Maid Sensou did to us. We didn't have any damn clue of what Lycorico and Akiba Maid Sensou are all about during the PV. But I hope we are wrong, it would be really a dick move if they pulled off some DDLC shit on this one albeit will be interesting, but I just want to watch a show where I can turn off my brain. I don't want any Donnie Darko or Steins Gate shit. |
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