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Mar 17, 2022 6:41 PM
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This episode as a whole was very screwed up, naive and full of bad writing. From the God arc ending in such a short and bad way to giving zero back story to the Devil, who by the way was teased to have a bad past because of miranjo (surprised? Lol). Marriage out of the nowhere to a woman who is almost the same age as the his mother and the one who made their live like hell. This should surprised me if not others. We know how the story was going. Forgiveness was a big thing since the first chapter and I was alright with it but to give these many after all heinous things she done is just absurd. Great series but the last 2-3 episodes were mediocre af.
Mar 17, 2022 6:46 PM

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Note that Bosse's final wish was NOT "tell my son I'm sorry I ruined his life for something that I didn't care about the literal second I obtained it" but "save my daughter-wife" and that Daida took that to heart and thought, hm...I admire my dad so much I want to be just like him down to marrying his forever mistress.

i actually feel bad for Ouken. OUKEN.

Also is it just me or is Daida giving off very clear vibes that despite the wonky events prior he will not be giving Bojji that crown.

The entire family is full of cheaters except for Hiling, the tsundere is literally the most genuine. dude fck this show

Mar 17, 2022 6:54 PM
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Everyone is happy yeyyy. But i think Appeas is the happiest person this episode
Mar 17, 2022 7:06 PM

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That is why people now is so dumb. Incest
Mar 17, 2022 7:09 PM

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Daida marrying Miranjo, that was expected.


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Mar 17, 2022 7:18 PM
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Does no one else see how incredibly weird this has been the past few episodes. Bosse kills Miranjo's dad then watches her grow from a child into a woman and falls in love with her. Then she basically does the same thing with Daida and all of a sudden he is in love with her. He's meant to be still a child too and she's a grown woman. There is so many levels of wrong here. And everyone just forgives her without much of a conversation about it all. Last episode better fix this
Mar 17, 2022 7:41 PM

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That was a perfect chance to save Ouken or restore the strength that was taken away from Boji but saving Miranjo was ok
Mar 17, 2022 8:07 PM

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Can't believe Ousama Ranking dropped a fucking "Usagi Drop manga" moment twice in the same episode.

Well, let's see. Miranjo being saved from the Devil was a total fact (not a fan of this but well) but a marriage proposal? What in the world?... I mean, if Daida did it with the intention of guaranteeing Miranjo's safety, it kinda makes sense. But if it's not only that and Daida actually fell in love with the mirror's voice he has grown up with, then this will surely become the biggest WTF moment of the entire winter season for me.

Also this. So much this:
NightKnightTaken said:
Who wrote this episode... this episode was honestly just terrible. Miranjo caused tons of citizens of the kingdom to be slaughtered by Ouken, encouraged Bosse to steal his new born baby's power making him disabled, killed Boji's mum so Bosse could have another baby who's body he would steal, attempted to murder Hilling, got Dorshe nearly killed and dismembered, almost got the rest of the 4 heavenly kings killed, tried to have Boji killed on multiple occasions, broke criminals out of prison who killed multiple people and died themselves.

Despite all of this, the idea that Miranjo was a "good person" was still shoved in our faces, simply because she was nice when she was like 5. Then Bosse has the balls to ask Daida to forgive and protect her... AND HE ACTUALLY DOES, he cared about what his father, who disabled his brother, let that brother's mother die without condemning the person who did it, let the attempted assassinations of both HIS mother and his brother happen, stole his body, and try to kill their own subjects. SO MUCH, that he even decided that she was worth marrying to protect... Daida couldn't care less about all the harm she did, simply because she was kind as a kid..

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Daida literally went from hating his father guts for making his brother disabled to honouring his last wish with all his might in the span of 20 minutes. Honestly, it's such a shame to see this show dropping the ball so hard after such engaging first cour. Seriously, it was being so damn solid...

Oh. And Ouken deserved better, by the way.
Mar 17, 2022 8:17 PM

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this episode is a bit anticlimactic if you ask me.. like i thought they would fight the demon or the demon would take something for the wish but he just left..

queen hiling still the best mom, the way she got embarrassed is also cute..

daida really become one of my favorite character in this series..

now that's weird, desha is a really hot tempered individual, I cant believed he just accepted it like that..

also it seems like this ranking of kings is darker than we thought.

1 episode left, I really cant wait but also it will be sad.. I will miss this anime
Mar 17, 2022 8:20 PM
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Everyone who needed a hug got one except Ouken
Mar 17, 2022 8:34 PM

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ant sure about this one chief anymore my excitement to turn into this each week died in the 2nd half to i guess ill watch it since theres nothing else on missed the quality of the first half plot wise and ever since the Gyakuza which has some questionable stuff the writing has been not great at all
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Mar 17, 2022 8:44 PM

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Well, this was different from how it played out in the manga I guess lol



Even then, this still is the weakest part of the entire manga, because of how anticlimactically it was executed, but it actually makes a lot of coherent sense in terms of character progression, and I'll make a post explaining why (yeah, even the stupid "proposal as an excuse to atone sins" in here actually is in line with Daida's character arc related to Bosses' own resolve towards Miranjo).

Could have been much better with some more monologuing pinpointing where Daida is coming from, a lot of people will miss why he did just that (he is basically taking Bosses' mantle in protecting Miranjo and trying to make herself give her extremely traumatized and codependent life a chance with the turn of a new page).

I thought Wit could have expanded just a little bit explicitly on what the manga didn't, it ended up wasting potential (they did expand some things in the anime despite distilling others).

The overall effective characterization and consistency with the thematic conflicts is still in there, but alas is not portrayed as well put as it could have been.

3/5
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Mar 17, 2022 8:49 PM
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This episode has me torn there are so many loose ends they have to wrap up in the last episode I really dont know how to feel about Daida forgiving Miranjo so easily. Miranjo is such a polarizing character in my opinion due to her relationships with Bosse and now Daida the age range is kind of ridiculous. I was thinking this was an amazing anime but the more I dissect its flaws the more lacklustre it seems. I still think its extremely enjoyable and the world is super interesting. I hope the last episode knocks it outta the park.
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that's kinda fucked up for Ouken, wtf Daida
Mar 17, 2022 9:13 PM
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In defence of Miranjo.

(HINT:i want to be a princess - Miranjo from first time meet Daida)
All the bad stuff that she did trace back to Bosse, and that is her problem that she can't solve.
She never want to be queen, or anything else outside boss, Bosse to her is like step dad(princess) and the only reason that she live.
From the outside, i look too much to the bad thing and forget that, even Daida see and know that she can't live without Bosse, he just want to help her, and give her the love that she never thought from somebody outside Bosse.
both Daida and Bojji know and empathy her better than anybody else (only two person that see the full backstory)
The author messenge bias to reform than punishment.
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Mar 17, 2022 10:02 PM
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Feel bad for the demon guy. The more wishes he grants the uglier he gets. I wonder if he is forced to grant wishes against his will.

I wonder what will happen to king Desha as well.

It looks like it all will not be resolved this season. Excited for the next.
Mar 17, 2022 10:26 PM
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What nonsense it was, daida proposing to Marry miranjo? All hardwork was done by bojji and he's coming to eat sweets for free. It doesn't make sense for daida acting bossy. Bojji is the big bro here, not daida. It would have been good if miranjo wasn't brought to life or let bojji marry her in future. Also the scene where hilling queen hugs bojji and daida and daida says he is too old to hug him by his mother. Bro you didn't even grow to your mother's height. What nonsense daida is spouting. Disappointed in episode 22!
Mar 17, 2022 10:36 PM
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How old is Daida?? I can't tell if I didn't realize he was older or if this relationship with Miranjo is just bizarrely inappropriate.


This is a fantasy series set in medieval times where you can have literally a kid turned into the king of a whole kingdom but this is what you think is "bizarrely innapropriate"? this is basically nothing really out of ordinary for the time, and btw, is very clear that Daida isn't marrying Miranjo to bang her all night, but because besides having feelings for her, his father asked him to take care of her and making her his wife is the only way he can protect her from all the shit she done.
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That thing scares me but I'm glad everything's been resolved now. I'm keen to see whats in the next episode for us.
Mar 17, 2022 10:45 PM

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What the hell did I just watch lol. First Platinum End today, and now this.
Um, hello Daida? You just proposed to the woman who was probably in love with your FATHER and tried to assassinate your MOTHER?? And what about the other fucked up shit she's done? Just cause she was nice to you growing up, and your selfish-assed daddy asked you to coddle her? Her sad past doesn't excuse her horrible actions. She should've just gone to the afterlife with Bosse or something. This redemption arc is horribly written. Even if she somehow spends the rest of her life helping people, she doesn't deserve this at all.

And did the demon really just grant Daida's wish - something normally considered taboo (bringing someone back to life) and having terrifying consequences - in exchange for just getting his head back? That trade is so unbalanced. Fullmetal Alchemist would bring this to shame. If it was that easy, Bosse should've just beat the demon up until the demon granted his wish. I really hope there's a better explanation - like the demon's plotting something - but I really doubt it given that they haven't even bothered to give a proper explanation for most of Bosse's actions.

Lastly, as "nice" as Despa is, his logic doesn't make much sense. Yes, Ouken is immortal so they could technically save him later, but the point is that he's suffering and in AGONY right now. And this is not to mention he's stuck in a fucking rock. I would've been beyond furious if I was him. Especially when Daida didn't do shit in severing the demon's head but he just so happened to gain consciousness at just the right time, waltzed in, and stole his wish.

The only thing I liked about this episode was Hiling and the interesting set-up with Desher going to the treasure vault. Actually, they are the only characters I like in this show, screw everyone else. I really, really want to give this show at least a 7 since I absolutely loved the first half of this show but these last few episodes have been such a disappointment, I don't even....


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Mar 17, 2022 11:01 PM
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There are many faults to say but I'll conclude with disappointment.
Mar 17, 2022 11:32 PM

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Okay I was already not being a fan of how all the characters were being salvageable but what they did with Miranjo is just ridiculous. The idea of atoning for her sins by doing good instead of just dying isn't a bad idea in itself but Daida wanting to marry her is stupid. "You helped me grow".... A boner, maybe. She was the one who killed Bojji's mother, almost killed Bojji, almost killed Hilling, manipulated you and used you all this time, among other terrible shit, wtf Daida. I'm sorry but her horrible past doesn't exonerate her from all of this, I understand the message the show wants to give but I feel there are better ways to do it.

That's it with the demon? Damn, Miranjo really was saved over Ouken :/

At least Hilling's scene with his sons was great.

Looks like we'll finally know what's beyond the ranking of kings, I'm worried about Desha though.
Mar 17, 2022 11:58 PM

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strangest plot development honestly, daida be like "hell yeah that girl, i'll take her"
Mar 18, 2022 12:09 AM
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First time I've been disappointed with this anime, this episode really pissed me off
Mar 18, 2022 12:26 AM

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Well, I'm definitely never going to get used to how simple problem solving feels in this anime, especially here, but better not keep repeating what we all already thought.

Daida doesn't waste time, he just recovers her body and already wants to be queen, but hey, it's a medieval world so he falls into the normal (although Miranjo is even older in his mind).

One more episode, it will be interesting to see how much more we will discover about the Ranking of kings, position 1, the gods and what will become of Boji in the world if he will not be king
Mar 18, 2022 12:59 AM
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Well... the endings always doom an almost flawless anime. Cliché central just entered the chat. It just seemed like every single mention and action served a purpose up until now. Up until now i've only "disliked" 3 episodes in total, but considering that they're the ones nearing the end it's a shame.

I'm crossing my fingers that there'll be a second season.
Mar 18, 2022 1:23 AM

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i feel like they rly could've done miranjo's character better. they pushed the "she wasn't really a monster, she was Made into one" agenda on her and i wasn't buying it but whatever idrc. BUT THENNN everyone just starts forgiving her bc ?????#!#!$? that was so not needed and just so. Dumb. she killed, and ruined tons of innocent lives but it was all forgiven, because !!! shes also suffered before🤪🤪

they could've made her not forgiven (yet?) and she tries to atone for her sins. for a long time. until they naturally start to forgive her, if they even decide to at least. not just "omg poor baby girl u were also a sweet innocent child but people wronged you :(" n they magically forgives her

the marriage thing just made me laugh HARD. like ???? did this pointy nosed blonde man forget that she almost killed his mom, his very own kingdom and basically replaced him in his own body with his dad? didnt even kill him, just made his soul get stuck in the dark. kid her was with you the whole time? if it weren't for her you wouldn't even need to he there dumbfuck😭😭 whattt was that oh my god. they really didnt need to do that to redeem him, it was alr going pretty well seeing how he was after meeting the "real" miranjo, instead of "mirror"

the only character i like is prob desher lol. solely bc he didnt suddenly go flimsy for miranjo bc of what she did and despite what she went through
Mar 18, 2022 1:26 AM

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I honestly hate how they all suddenly forgave Miranjo. She is a killer who murdered Bojji's mom in the most gruesome way not to mention the trauma that he had to endure at such an early age. That scene is still stuck in my mind with his mother pleading for her to not kill her child, but she didn't give a sht about it. As well as attempting to murder almost everyone in the kingdom for her own gain. Like I get that she had a sad past but it doesn't justify any of her actions....
I am sleepy
Mar 18, 2022 1:34 AM
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Super controversial episode, I honestly don't know what to make of it. 😆 Yikes.

Poor Ouken though.
Mar 18, 2022 2:00 AM

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poor episode no one seems to be evil in this anime even the devil himself
Mar 18, 2022 2:04 AM

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well shit

There was a point where I genuinely considered this could have been one of my favourite anime ever and tbh I do still believe the first 5-6 episodes are the best start I've ever seen to an anime series but the way things were resolved was horrible.

Genuinely heartbreaking that the series ended up at this destination but there are still some big takeaways in that Bojji and Kage are phenomenal characters ^^

Overall this has still been one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had involving a weekly seasonal anime and I'm still hyped for the final episode next week so I'm sure I'll still give it a decent score.

Hope we get to see what's in that vault!!

Mar 18, 2022 2:44 AM

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What simping does to a mfer.
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Mar 18, 2022 3:00 AM
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That is the easiest / most efficient way for Daida to protect Miranjo, like it or not.
Oh well. I'll cope by saying that Miranjo is physically in her 20s.


Yes, this is just some justification.
Mar 18, 2022 3:03 AM

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Shinuki_n_Reborn said:

This is a fantasy series set in medieval times

No, it's not it's a fantasy based setting with female knights, witches and devils. If it was the actual middle ages this bitch would be hanging from the gallows, not made the next queen.

Why people keep repeating this like we were watching some historical fiction until now lmao

Mar 18, 2022 6:17 AM

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this might be an "unpopular" opinion but I feel the reason daida married miranjo was not out of love like we see it, but as a way to protect her and give her a second chance like bosse asked him to

there are so many ways to love, so it's not necessary the love we're used to, I think daida just wanted to give miranjo a chance to become human again

Mar 18, 2022 7:37 AM
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TURBO ASS EPISODE. Why tf did he forgive and then marry her

Mar 18, 2022 8:12 AM
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I feel bad about Despa failing to save Ouken because of what Daida did. However, I think for now, it is for the best. It seems like Ouken understood after all.

The little Demon has to be saved, another interesting mystery...

Daida deciding to marry Miranjo is surprising. In this case, I still considered some factors or reasons behind this:

1) Daida, as a king, made this decision as a way of giving her the best protection and opportunities to pass on "the great lessons" to as many people as possible. That does not necessarily mean that she has to give birth. By gaining "a queen" title, she will get the respect she deserved but failed to get. At the same time, she can carry out great important tasks on behalf of the nation. In other words, she can be in a great position to make sure that the kingdom of Bosse will not become like Gyakuza Kingdom (which Bosse greatly despises), and people will be filled with love and kindness like her late mom.

2) Despite Miranjo being bad when she was in the mirror, her love and care for Daida was genuine (It's just that she showed it the bad way). Daida spent so much time with her. He was with her over the years; fondness and the idea of wanting to meet her grew inside his heart.

3)He got to know more about who Miranjo truly is and what she has been through in the darkness. Hence, he cared more about her. He realized a lot of things for the better. He loved her more. He learned and showed the ability of "seeing someone more clearly than they see themselves and accepting them for all that they are regardless". (quote by Mia)"

Kinda surprising by how others react, considering that we have seen couples like in Inu Yasha and Kamisama Hajimemashita. Also, the story is set in somewhat medieval times when people were allowed to marry from a very young age (especially royals). Besides, Daida did not do that out of sexual desires or anything related to that. Reasons are actually pure and deep. Since he said "wife-to-be", I think he will wait for the right time. For now, declaring that can be enough reason for people not to harm her and let her do what is best...what is good.

Knowing the author (who is actually good at twisting minds and fooling viewers). It is best *for me* not to think so much for now and see the next episode...

What is the best scene in this episode? It is actually the fact that Hiling met her sons again. She can now hug his precious boys as many times as she like. For a strong woman like her to break down like that...wow...I felt emotional...

I am concerned about Desha. The statement regarding "how someone can be changed by wealth and power" and the idea what happened to Kingbo's father..

In addition, finally, more ideas about the "Ranking of kings" are being slowly unraveled. What a great way to start the next arc. Here comes the bigger picture. How exciting...

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This was perhaps the most obnoxious storywriting choice I've ever seen so far from this series. The way Miranjo was not only conveniently forgiven but also given a very weird marriage proposal by someone whom she manipulated from the very beginning was just pathetic. None of that shit adds up. No good established dynamics or development beforehand. No means of properly justifying her sins whatsoever. Just an easy copout. Also, wtf was the point of bringing Bosse back to life into the mix in the first place if all of his motive amounted to just that? Why go through this pointless merry go round with Miranjo to wind up being brainwashed by Boiji's pacifism?

I'm at a loss for words. This is trash tier scripting at its finest.
Just like Demon Slayer, this is simply "carried by animation" as I expected it to be.
Mar 18, 2022 8:28 AM

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probably we will get a season 2 or at least a sequel looking back at today's episode ending ;D
Mar 18, 2022 9:05 AM
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Who wrote this episode... this episode was honestly just terrible. Miranjo caused tons of citizens of the kingdom to be slaughtered by Ouken, encouraged Bosse to steal his new born baby's power making him disabled, killed Boji's mum so Bosse could have another baby who's body he would steal, attempted to murder Hilling, got Dorshe nearly killed and dismembered, almost got the rest of the 4 heavenly kings killed, tried to have Boji killed on multiple occasions, broke criminals out of prison who killed multiple people and died themselves.

Despite all of this, the idea that Miranjo was a "good person" was still shoved in our faces, simply because she was nice when she was like 5. Then Bosse has the balls to ask Daida to forgive and protect her... AND HE ACTUALLY DOES, he cared about what his father, who disabled his brother, let that brother's mother die without condemning the person who did it, let the attempted assassinations of both HIS mother and his brother happen, stole his body, and try to kill their own subjects. SO MUCH, that he even decided that she was worth marrying to protect... Daida couldn't care less about all the harm she did, simply because she was kind as a kid..

There's no logic in this episode. I get that typical Shonen do the thing where they just forgive the enemy. But that enemy usually isn't someone who caused so much personal harm towards them, and usually have an excuse, she most certainly does not. also, they don't usually marry them afterwards.

THANK YOUUUUU , this ep legit made me go to loving this show to bordeline hating it like what the fuck how inhumane bosse and daida are like what
Mar 18, 2022 11:09 AM
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this episode felt quite boring. like after all that miranjo get to be forgiven and daida forgets about her bad doings.
Mar 18, 2022 11:54 AM

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what? After that fantastic last episode, this was... weird. Why are Daida and Miranjo marrying? This doesn't make any sense, so random..

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this might be an "unpopular" opinion but I feel the reason daida married miranjo was not out of love like we see it, but as a way to protect her and give her a second chance like bosse asked him to

there are so many ways to love, so it's not necessary the love we're used to, I think daida just wanted to give miranjo a chance to become human again


This is of course possible, but I feel like if that was his true intention.. then what's the reason for Miranjo to seemingly just accept it. Maybe she could guess his intentions and therefore didn't decline it outright.. although I doubt it.
Mar 18, 2022 1:42 PM
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NightKnightTaken said:
Who wrote this episode... this episode was honestly just terrible. Miranjo caused tons of citizens of the kingdom to be slaughtered by Ouken, encouraged Bosse to steal his new born baby's power making him disabled, killed Boji's mum so Bosse could have another baby who's body he would steal, attempted to murder Hilling, got Dorshe nearly killed and dismembered, almost got the rest of the 4 heavenly kings killed, tried to have Boji killed on multiple occasions, broke criminals out of prison who killed multiple people and died themselves.

Despite all of this, the idea that Miranjo was a "good person" was still shoved in our faces, simply because she was nice when she was like 5. Then Bosse has the balls to ask Daida to forgive and protect her... AND HE ACTUALLY DOES, he cared about what his father, who disabled his brother, let that brother's mother die without condemning the person who did it, let the attempted assassinations of both HIS mother and his brother happen, stole his body, and try to kill their own subjects. SO MUCH, that he even decided that she was worth marrying to protect... Daida couldn't care less about all the harm she did, simply because she was kind as a kid..

There's no logic in this episode. I get that typical Shonen do the thing where they just forgive the enemy. But that enemy usually isn't someone who caused so much personal harm towards them, and usually have an excuse, she most certainly does not. also, they don't usually marry them afterwards.
It is true, what Miranjo did had an explanation but not a justification. One could think it was odd, at least at the beginning when it looked like literally everybody was going to forgive her, but then the captain of the underworld said she had to pay, and it makes sense that he was the only one that said that because he didn't know the full story. Now, on Bojji's perspective, he saw her entire life and empathized with Miranio, plus, he saw the conversation between his mom and Miranjo, where Bojji's mom forgives her and says that she doesn't have any resentment, now for Bojji it wouldn't make sense to punish her by letting the Demon eat her because he knew that Miranjo could be saved. On Daida's side, it was almost the same, but in this case, he could literally feel Miranjo's true soul and knew the whole story as well, I was like WTF when he asked her to be his wife but for me it makes sense that Daida decided to protect her and in that time, that is how marriages worked. And the most important part of this, the cherry on the cake came with Despa, he was going to save Ouken but then he understood Bojji's desires to save her and not just that, he knew everything about Miranjo as well, BUT he knew that somehow she had to PAY, to REDEEM herself, since she wasn't pure evil and could be saved, so he saved her under 2 conditions, first, the kingdom had to give him A LOT of money and the second and most important one, he commended a LIFE mission to her by saying: "You must teach the next generation why you committed your crimes so that no one else has to suffer as you did", for me, that was a perfect way to close this whole situation and the perfect "punishment" for Miranjo. If that last part wouldn't have happened, I would have been dissapointed but fortunately it wasn't the case. That is why I feel very satisfied with all this and it all makes sense for me. Besides, Miranjo DID show a sense of guilt and she was prepared to face the consequences, also, she did suffer/pay in that brief time when she was inside the demon.

And it is not that everybody forgave her and moved on very easily, given all the facts, the elements, the events, the whole situation, this resolution was the best course of action, because again, Miranjo wasn't pure evil and could be saved, she can do way more and pay for her sins in her new life mission. Suffering endlessly inside the demon wouldn't change anything.
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carhs14 said:
It is true, what Miranjo did had an explanation but not a justification. One could think it was odd, at least at the beginning when it looked like literally everybody was going to forgive her, but then the captain of the underworld said she had to pay, and it makes sense that he was the only one that said that because he didn't know the full story. Now, on Bojji's perspective, he saw her entire life and empathized with Miranio, plus, he saw the conversation between his mom and Miranjo, where Bojji's mom forgives her and says that she doesn't have any resentment, now for Bojji it wouldn't make sense to punish her by letting the Demon eat her because he knew that Miranjo could be saved. On Daida's side, it was almost the same, but in this case, he could literally feel Miranjo's true soul and knew the whole story as well, I was like WTF when he asked her to be his wife but for me it makes sense that Daida decided to protect her and in that time, that is how marriages worked. And the most important part of this, the cherry on the cake came with Despa, he was going to save Ouken but then he understood Bojji's desires to save her and not just that, he knew everything about Miranjo as well, BUT he knew that somehow she had to PAY, to REDEEM herself, since she wasn't pure evil and could be saved, so he saved her under 2 conditions, first, the kingdom had to give him A LOT of money and the second and most important one, he commended a LIFE mission to her by saying: "You must teach the next generation why you committed your crimes so that no one else has to suffer as you did", for me, that was a perfect way to close this whole situation and the perfect "punishment" for Miranjo. If that last part wouldn't have happened, I would have been dissapointed but fortunately it wasn't the case. That is why I feel very satisfied with all this and it all makes sense for me. Besides, Miranjo DID show a sense of guilt and she was prepared to face the consequences, also, she did suffer/pay in that brief time when she was inside the demon.

And it is not that everybody forgave her and moved on very easily, given all the facts, the elements, the events, the whole situation, this resolution was the best course of action, because again, Miranjo wasn't pure evil and could be saved, she can do way more and pay for her sins in her new life mission. Suffering endlessly inside the demon wouldn't change anything.


Thank you for this, you really managed to put words on what I've been thinking since I've watched the episode. I think that was really a confusing and perhaps messy episode, but still not as bad as ppl make it to be. Like you said there was no point in Miranjo being stuck inside the demon forever. Especially if we're getting a season 2, we need her to be here to show her development.
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gwtw99 said:
carhs14 said:
It is true, what Miranjo did had an explanation but not a justification. One could think it was odd, at least at the beginning when it looked like literally everybody was going to forgive her, but then the captain of the underworld said she had to pay, and it makes sense that he was the only one that said that because he didn't know the full story. Now, on Bojji's perspective, he saw her entire life and empathized with Miranio, plus, he saw the conversation between his mom and Miranjo, where Bojji's mom forgives her and says that she doesn't have any resentment, now for Bojji it wouldn't make sense to punish her by letting the Demon eat her because he knew that Miranjo could be saved. On Daida's side, it was almost the same, but in this case, he could literally feel Miranjo's true soul and knew the whole story as well, I was like WTF when he asked her to be his wife but for me it makes sense that Daida decided to protect her and in that time, that is how marriages worked. And the most important part of this, the cherry on the cake came with Despa, he was going to save Ouken but then he understood Bojji's desires to save her and not just that, he knew everything about Miranjo as well, BUT he knew that somehow she had to PAY, to REDEEM herself, since she wasn't pure evil and could be saved, so he saved her under 2 conditions, first, the kingdom had to give him A LOT of money and the second and most important one, he commended a LIFE mission to her by saying: "You must teach the next generation why you committed your crimes so that no one else has to suffer as you did", for me, that was a perfect way to close this whole situation and the perfect "punishment" for Miranjo. If that last part wouldn't have happened, I would have been dissapointed but fortunately it wasn't the case. That is why I feel very satisfied with all this and it all makes sense for me. Besides, Miranjo DID show a sense of guilt and she was prepared to face the consequences, also, she did suffer/pay in that brief time when she was inside the demon.

And it is not that everybody forgave her and moved on very easily, given all the facts, the elements, the events, the whole situation, this resolution was the best course of action, because again, Miranjo wasn't pure evil and could be saved, she can do way more and pay for her sins in her new life mission. Suffering endlessly inside the demon wouldn't change anything.


Thank you for this, you really managed to put words on what I've been thinking since I've watched the episode. I think that was really a confusing and perhaps messy episode, but still not as bad as ppl make it to be. Like you said there was no point in Miranjo being stuck inside the demon forever. Especially if we're getting a season 2, we need her to be here to show her development.
oh that's nice!👌🏼, yeah, it is just that a lot of people don't see the full picture of everything we have seen throughout all this chapters and this last one🤷‍♂️😕, that is why. And I agree with you I really want to see how she will do.
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Dafrek said:
Who was behind Miranjo's assassination by arrow when she set up Shillin?
It didn't looked like an accident and it's a crucial moment of the show, I can't believe it has been left unexplained. Did I miss a scene?
Miranjo was being betrayed by her own ally. It portraited very well without any word to be explained.
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Never had an idea, i thought Bosse in Daida body will marry Miranjo (from false spoiler i heard), but well it's really good. Especially when watching Hilling expression after hear Daida say like that. Feel i can imagine "ara-ara" meme after this lol. What a chad this Daida. Make sense why Bosse said Daida is similiar to him.

Okay, i'm currious about Desha being no.1 king in the world. And what about Bojji in next week?
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Shimura27 said:
Dafrek said:
Who was behind Miranjo's assassination by arrow when she set up Shillin?
It didn't looked like an accident and it's a crucial moment of the show, I can't believe it has been left unexplained. Did I miss a scene?
Miranjo was being betrayed by her own ally. It portraited very well without any word to be explained.


But who were they? And why ?
I hope such a crucial moment of the plot isn't triggered by just some random act of violence. I was expecting an explanation, especially the fact that they worked with Gigantes people
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Honestly I enjoyed the conclusion...but I openly admit that it was pretty goofy. Goofiest of all being that after the demon took his payment in the bargain by eating Miranjo's soul after like...a decade of waiting Daida's just like "Ey yo, can I actually cop Miranjo back right quick tho?" and the demon's just like "eh, fuck it" and Thanos snaps her out of an iceberg in the basement...ending the entire conflict instantly.

Like, why the fuck would the demon even require her soul as payment just to instantly give her back on request? Did he just feel irritated that Miranjo broke her promise and just wanted to be facetious by asking for her soul...but...like...wasn't really upset enough to actively reject Daida's reply and keep her in hell?

I feel like that whole plot point might have been created just to bring Miranjo back to life and stick her with Daida in the quickest and least contradictive way possible...which I mean...is a bit of a cop out, but I can't whine too much.
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Wow... most people here really could not have missed the message of this anime any harder if they tried. The whole thing of this anime was about forgiveness and moving on from the past. Get a clue. Most of the characters have figured this out.
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