One Piece Chapter 1039 Discussion

FMmatron said:




It definitely makes you think. A few things have to be kept mind. I already mentioned the difference between Doflamingo and Big Mom. The next opponent doesn't necessarily have to be the stronger one or that gives you bigger trouble. Crocodile and Enel were more powerful than Lucci in the grand scheme of things. They had OP devil fruits, but Lucci is a close combat powerhouse who gave Luffy more trouble. Luffy was used to overpower his opponents physically, he hasn't faced an opponent like that before. Enel's lightning powers were useless dirsctly aimed at Luffy. Mr.1 can't do shit to Buggy. Luffy had a hard time to overcome the Biscuit Soldiers. Zoro or Doflamingo could've cut their way through them, I imagine. So yeah, there are favorable match, ones that leave you at a disadvantage and all inbetween. I think this makes power dynamics in One Piece interesting.

Now the major difference between Luffy and Law in this case is that Luffy was already in a good starting position. Law wore out Doflamingo and wounded him badly with his Gamma Knife, true. But Luffy absolutely mopped him once he went Fourth Gear. He was barely able to fight back. This didn't do Law's rep any favors. Furthermore, we saw Luffy evolving even beyond that during Whole Cake Island. Law on the other hand didn't do shit on screen. The contrast here is sharp. One could argue that he did some training or had some techniques up his sleeve that wouldn't have worked on Doffy. The latter sounds plausible. I don't think there's a point in trying fancy moves which require so much stamina that wouldn't have worked on Doffy anyway; Big Mom is an easier target and he had Kid on his side. The training argument isn't as potent. I mean, telling it to yourself doesn't carry the same weight as seeing it firsthand.

All things considered I think Big Mom's defeat at the hand of two characters of the caliber of Kid and Law is within reason.

Morcombe1990 said:
First of all the fight was great but this is a massive letdown.

Big Mom has been built up for a decade as a major rival to Luffy so to have her lose to other characters is disappointing.

Then we have the problem of OTHER characters actually beating a yonkou BEFORE Luffy has done so, thats a poor choice narratively, if they have to win then it should have been AFTER Luffy had taken down Kaido, because now Luffy's victory will be much less impressive considering kaido has taken damage from the scabbards, yamato and the supernova whie Big Mom has only taken damage from Law and Kid, two characters who have failed to split the heavens.

This makes Luffy look so bad comparatively since Big Mom and Kaido are suppsoed to be equals and thats what disappoints me most about this chapter.
Law and Kid didnt need to split the heavens, they didnt need advanced conquerers haki or ryou but Luffy needed all of that plus major help from FIFTEEN other characters to beat Kaido.

Danpmss said:


While that would definitely be true regarding whether she can extend her life with it, using it to cure her bones is not exactly out of question... unless, of course, the bones count as "corpse", and therefore she would need to use source soul power to do her thing, indeed.

We seen her healing back to live her once souless son only with his own soul being reinjected before, after all, it's more than evidence enough that at the very least injecting souls into the original body can be done as long as it's their own (even if they died like Moscato).

But then again, that only makes me imagine she will burn more or her lifespan the next chapter and heal, I really don't think this juggernaut is done yet tbh lol

Using them to create homies to do the job for her while she heals is also not out of question for now. I guess I really just want to see more of Big Mom kicking ass or something HUE

But as the guy above said, it just feels like it was too easy, considering how much of a combined effort Kaido has been up to this point in comparison.

FMmatron said:



A few things you might want to consider.

- narratively it makes sense to wrap up this fight first, since Kaido is the main antagonist of Wano and should fall last.
- their fight took place simultaneously and word will reach the world that the WG alliance has taken down the Yonkou alliance. At the end of the day it's a combined effort, but I guess the World Government will single out Luffy again because he already enjoys special status.
- he beat Big Mom during Whole Cake Island...well at least Morgans sold it to the world as her loss. So he already got his credit there.
- Unlike Kid(applying force and pressure) Law(attacks her insides), who found other ways to hurt these monsters, Luffy actually needed advanced armament and conquerors coating to do something. He's a brawler and his standard haki punches weren't able to overcome the Yonkou's hard skin.
- It also makes sense to expand Luffy's haki skills. He has a talent for it and was fortunate to have two teachers, but it's by no means a requirement to be a top tier fighter. It's still a nice to have, will probably come handy and underlines Luffy's MC status. I mean the scene when he used it was epic xD

Just my two cents.






It's her bones, so bones count as "people" in this case?

Putting the soul back in the owners body works since body and soul belong together. And the owner was technically, never really dead and therefore it didn't count as corpse after the soul got extracted. But I wouldn't really call it healing, she just put the soul back to where it belonged.

Burning her own life span would of course be a possibility, unless she doesn't have enough to spare anymore. Then she would have to sacrifice her three main homies. Napoleon, Prometheus and Hera.

I feel you, though. As much as I'm happy for Kid and Law, it's kinda hard to come to terms with her defeat. Everything speaks for it, but I need the confirmation.

SinOfSlothKing said:


Look at that, a Fairy Tail fan having higher standards than Op fans.......its not that suprising honestly.