The Case Study of Vanitas
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| it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. |
-Elevate- said: then wer Baccano season 2 :(it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. |
shivamrajput958 said: Sales are low as compare to other manga because it's a monthly manga,so it's very obvious that it's sales low as compare to weekly manga's. Well, Shingeki no Kyojin was a monthly manga and it sold quite well compared to other weekly manga so I don't really see the point of this comparison... But anyways, it's true that the sales for Vanitas no Carte seem to be not impressive, but to really see the impact of the anime on the manga sales we need to wait for a new volume release. |
Chiribei said: -Elevate- said: it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. -Elevate- said: it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. ...and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself. They don't give a fuck about us. Japan is their main market. they literally care about overseas a lot tho if you really think japan only cares about their own country then u’re living 20 years in the past. honestly if u ask for proof i am not gonna bother to show you any just the mere fact that there is so many isekai which the west adores and or fast anime adaptations of popular manga that are popular in the weat just speaks volumes. |
shivamrajput958 said: -Elevate- said: English translations of manga and dub version itself a proof that they care about West as well,and cruncyroll,funimation,aniplex, Netflix also stream anime outside japan as well so they do care about West as well.they literally care about overseas a lot tho if you really think japan only cares about their own country then u’re living 20 years in the past. honestly if u ask for proof i am not gonna bother to show you any just the mere fact that there is so many isekai which the west adores and or fast anime adaptations of popular manga that are popular in the weat just speaks volumes. While they do care, it's hard to quantify how much they actually do care. I mean we have a lot of instances of Japanese studio's not caring about western audiences, and we also have the opposite. I think it's often a case of a Japanese company releasing an anime and then the streaming sites pay for the licenses and then the Japanese company doesn't bat an eye. The japanese studio's don't care at all how well translated it is. So i don't think they care as much as the fact that they just don't see a reason to say no to the license money. |
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Chiribei said: -Elevate- said: it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. -Elevate- said: it doesn’t really matter if a series does well in japan because if it does well overseas thats enough for the animation studios, production committee, producers etc. ...and other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself. They don't give a fuck about us. Japan is their main market. Objectively that isn't true half of the industry profits are coming from the international fandom. Plus the domestic market is either stagnating or degrading whereas most of the growth that is expanding the industry is coming from overseas. |
Zenress said: shivamrajput958 said: English translations of manga and dub version itself a proof that they care about West as well,and cruncyroll,funimation,aniplex, Netflix also stream anime outside japan as well so they do care about West as well. While they do care, it's hard to quantify how much they actually do care. I mean we have a lot of instances of Japanese studio's not caring about western audiences, and we also have the opposite. I think it's often a case of a Japanese company releasing an anime and then the streaming sites pay for the licenses and then the Japanese company doesn't bat an eye. The japanese studio's don't care at all how well translated it is. So i don't think they care as much as the fact that they just don't see a reason to say no to the license money. It is cheaper that way. The less Japan cares about the west's opinion, the better though. Cause that's the reason manga and anime are doing as well as they are. |
Zweifooter said: Zenress said: While they do care, it's hard to quantify how much they actually do care. I mean we have a lot of instances of Japanese studio's not caring about western audiences, and we also have the opposite. I think it's often a case of a Japanese company releasing an anime and then the streaming sites pay for the licenses and then the Japanese company doesn't bat an eye. The japanese studio's don't care at all how well translated it is. So i don't think they care as much as the fact that they just don't see a reason to say no to the license money. It is cheaper that way. The less Japan cares about the west's opinion, the better though. Cause that's the reason manga and anime are doing as well as they are. I agree one hundred %. The more they just let the west deal with the material they obtained through a license as they please. The better and easier the culture can spread. It used to be a pretty hardcore and hard to get into culture, because of fan subs and such back in the day way before I was even born. But because the licenses give the west so much freedom, it's become a lot more friendly for newer people to get engaged with anime, manga, light novels and other Japanese arts. It also means that the percentage of people who end up really involved and interested in Japan is higher because the entry curve is a lot easier. It makes me happy to know that it's getting easier for others to enjoy the things I enjoy as well. Who know, a certain percentage of enjoyers will end up wanting to live closer to the origin of their hobby and learn the language just as I. |
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Zenress said: Zweifooter said: It is cheaper that way. The less Japan cares about the west's opinion, the better though. Cause that's the reason manga and anime are doing as well as they are. I agree one hundred %. The more they just let the west deal with the material they obtained through a license as they please. The better and easier the culture can spread. It used to be a pretty hardcore and hard to get into culture, because of fan subs and such back in the day way before I was even born. But because the licenses give the west so much freedom, it's become a lot more friendly for newer people to get engaged with anime, manga, light novels and other Japanese arts. It also means that the percentage of people who end up really involved and interested in Japan is higher because the entry curve is a lot easier. It makes me happy to know that it's getting easier for others to enjoy the things I enjoy as well. Who know, a certain percentage of enjoyers will end up wanting to live closer to the origin of their hobby and learn the language just as I. Well, I that's not quite what I meant, but I appreciate the points you brought up. I avidly dislike the 4kids approach of thinking you need to erase every trace of the culture in the show that they can, that most localizers these days make. I'm a big advocate for fansubs, and still getting the original story, unaltered, with the correct characterization still in tact. I'm not saying we need "Editor's Note: Keikkaku means plan." tier stuff. But think about what translation is. Good translation does its best to get the meaning of a sentence across as closely as possible from one language to another. Modern localizations don't do that anymore. They often completely re-write scripts, use the characters as their political mouthpieces, and *fix* certain terms by intentionally mistranslating them because they don't agree. And while I agree that it's good that it's getting more people into the hobby, it bothers me a little that we may not even have watched the same show, just because I watched the sub/fan-sub and they watched the dub. |
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