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Apr 12, 2010 8:01 AM

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I checked out this series because of the ridiculously high scores the first episode got on Anime News Network and, while I wasn't wowed by it, I'll definitely keep watching this series. I'm glad the supernatural powers didn't take away from the show's historical setting, plus I can't wait to see whether or not the Rape of Nanjing plays a part in this.
 
Apr 12, 2010 11:09 AM

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All of that is understandable, and true, but I don't think that has happened in this show yet. I'm not sure, so since I don't want to step on anyone's toes, I'd rather not even speculate. I would, however, like to talk about the merits of the show outside of unfortunate geo-political bias.


I understand that. I'm just basically explaining why people would be upset if they portrayed these Japanese as heroes to the people of China. To do so would be pissing on the graves of all those that died. If they were going a fantasy/supernatural route, they could have picked a less controversial setting/timeline. Hell even making up fictitious countries would have been better.


Since you UNDERSTAND that, and the anime didn't show anything like that yet WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING LIKE IT DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Explaining why people might be upset if the anime shows something like that?


Well if my ass shit gold i would have been a rich man. If only.
 
Apr 12, 2010 11:38 AM

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Guys, guys, how about I make a thread for Japanese propaganda/war crimes here? That way, all of you guys who want to rant can rant there, and all of you guys who are interested can go there and read. That way, we won't have to spam this thread up with offtopic historical rants.

Final note: I want to say that only a TINY group of war criminals were executed. General Douglas MacArthur pardoned the vast majority of the war criminals (because one, I believe he was racist against the Chinese, he did, after all, proposed to nuke China into oblivion, which got him sacked from President Truman; and two, he needed Japan as America's puppet state, so he can't be too "cruel" to the Japanese); and the other, was an Indian judge by the name of Pal, who was a presiding judge during the war crime trial. He pardoned the Japanese war criminals because he thought it was hypocritical for Westerners to judge Japan based on Imperialism while the Western world was imperialistic as well. Of course, Pal didn't give a shit about the Chinese or Korean people's suffering; he just hated the West so much that he didn't even care if destroying the West meant destroying the Chinese and Koreans.

So... the reasons why Chinese and Koreans are so upset are because Japan GOT AWAY WITH MOST OF ITS CRIMES, and not only that, but the vast majority of the world are HELPING Japan in denying her war crimes.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
Apr 12, 2010 3:23 PM

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Guys, guys, how about I make a thread for Japanese propaganda/war crimes here? That way, all of you guys who want to rant can rant there, and all of you guys who are interested can go there and read. That way, we won't have to spam this thread up with offtopic historical rants.

Please do that. It's not like you're helping it stay on-topic
 
Apr 12, 2010 3:38 PM

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Already did.

Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol.
 
Apr 12, 2010 4:20 PM

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I'll just re-post this, since my ego is telling me it didn't get enough attention outside of the first sentence.

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I know nothing about the intricacies of China/Japan/Korea tensions during this time period, being an ignorant American. Thusly, I will only comment on the coherency of the plot, and all the other mechanics of the episode/show going forward. As such, I don't see what the big fuss is over the show from that standpoint. The production values are high, but as of the first episode, there was little to no effort in introducing the characters outside of their powers, and that worries me a little for a 13 episode show. So far, it feels like they'll have to juggle plot, politics, characters, fantasy, and historical fiction. Part of me feels like this episode was a bit wasted because it went into details about politics without setting up the structure, and then proceeded to do run-of-the-mill infiltration with the flair of telepathic abilities. Then the bad attempts at comedy only further put me off from what was going on. It also doesn't help that all of the characters are very generic in design and quite uninspired from that standpoint.

I hope it gets better because I love all the ideas at the core. It has almost every single element that I adore.
 
Apr 12, 2010 5:32 PM
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noteDhero said:
I'll just re-post this, since my ego is telling me it didn't get enough attention outside of the first sentence.

noteDhero said:
I know nothing about the intricacies of China/Japan/Korea tensions during this time period, being an ignorant American. Thusly, I will only comment on the coherency of the plot, and all the other mechanics of the episode/show going forward. As such, I don't see what the big fuss is over the show from that standpoint. The production values are high, but as of the first episode, there was little to no effort in introducing the characters outside of their powers, and that worries me a little for a 13 episode show. So far, it feels like they'll have to juggle plot, politics, characters, fantasy, and historical fiction. Part of me feels like this episode was a bit wasted because it went into details about politics without setting up the structure, and then proceeded to do run-of-the-mill infiltration with the flair of telepathic abilities. Then the bad attempts at comedy only further put me off from what was going on. It also doesn't help that all of the characters are very generic in design and quite uninspired from that standpoint.

I hope it gets better because I love all the ideas at the core. It has almost every single element that I adore.


I understand your feelings, your first sentence branded you as "ignorant American" by most posters LOL....Things can get scary once people are blindly focused on one mindset.

Seriously, I'm glad someone opened another thread to discuss history. An episode discussion remains an episode discussion.

The animation was great... the characters, so-so... As of now, other than the fact that this level of obviously Japanese Chinese/Mandarin (heck why are they speaking Pekinese/Mandarin in Shanghai in 1930??) can make them spies.....I might just as well infiltrate the Somali Pirates by now....(I'm obviously Asian, by the way)

Other than that, can't say much, need to watch at least 2-3 episodes. Tricky subjects were touched (i.e. Co-prosperity sphere) but that's about it. I'm not so hardcore on that.
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Apr 13, 2010 12:44 AM

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That was a great episode. I'm definitely going to watch this. The animation is very impressive and I really liked the characters (especially Aoi). So let us just watch and enjoy the show apart from the past events ;)
 
Apr 13, 2010 9:16 AM

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it has a very baccano-ish feel. i like ^^
 
Apr 14, 2010 12:53 AM
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I don't speak a work of Mandarin and even I could tell it was quite bad XD

So far, I really like this. The art style is really cool, and it's animated really well. I think the concept of each of them having a unique power is awesome! I loved the way they showed them teleporting. The two main guys are cool characters, each with their own personality.

I'm looking forward to episode 2!
 
Apr 14, 2010 5:55 AM

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Senkou no Night Raid throws us right into its fast-paced action and political plot, introducing a group of Japanese "superspies", diverse, each with their own abilities. The first episode I certainly can't call a slow one, it's interesting from the very first minute to the ending (which is a great tune by the way, I just think they could've thought about a different animation), keeping the viewer on the edge of his seat all the time.

The strongest point of this anime certainly is the action, fast fight scenes, nicely animated with beautiful background music, setting the theme perfectly, it's almost like the James Bond action scenes, just set in a different time, with spies having supernatural powers. Awesome.

There's not really much to complain. As the first episode, it doesn't fail at all in getting me to download and eagerly watch the next one, I just hope it matches the good level of this one.

8/10
 
Apr 15, 2010 5:52 AM

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What the hell, MUCC in my animu? Now I'll have to finish watching this, no matter how bad it might turn out to be.
 
Apr 16, 2010 2:22 AM

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Well, I must say, I really enjoyed this episode! This was one of the series I had high hopes for this season, and it certainly hasn't disappointed. I like that the Chinese people actually spoke Chinese, as opposed to inexplicably speaking Japanese as in every other show.

It seems to have a very Baccano sort of feel to it, and the abilities they use are quite reminiscent of Darker Than Black. I can't wait for more background on those.

Personally, i'd say this has the makings of a truly great show. I just hope the other sides of the conflict get fleshed out more, because at the moment they seem very two-dimensional.
 
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Apr 21, 2010 5:21 PM
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Where is episode 2!? D:
 
Apr 28, 2010 12:42 AM

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Aoi's mandarin is shocking. haha
It's hard to understand what he is saying, and most of the time i feel like laughing. Lol
Kazura's mandarin is much better than his.
Oh well... but it is a great attempt to use the language of the locals since they are in china.
 
May 6, 2010 5:33 AM

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Not bad, not bad at all. I quite liked it, think I'll stick with it.



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May 7, 2010 5:30 AM

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It wasn't a 'wow' first episode, but I'm definitely interested in the series.
 
May 11, 2010 6:34 PM

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The mandarin they speak is quite broken.



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May 12, 2010 4:36 PM
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The mandarin they speak is quite broken.

the german is worse
 
May 19, 2010 9:02 AM

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I don't understand chineese/mandarin but it's nice too see some anime use more languages ..
I swear this looks like the perfect Darker than BLACK ripp-off XDD.
 
May 21, 2010 6:10 PM

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i thought i downloaded some weird version when i first heard the mandurin haha then when the japanese came on i was relived
 
May 25, 2010 5:54 AM

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Their mandarin was horrible and funny x)
An interesting anime although it didint impress me so much.

Btw, that Kazura guy's ability reminded me Jumper :d
 
Dec 14, 2010 6:48 AM

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hahhahahahahahahaha at the mandarin
 
Aug 5, 2012 7:45 PM

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That Mandarin spoken in the beginning..weird. The guy with the hat definitely speaks it better though imo but other than that, good series so far.
 
Sep 22, 2012 3:19 PM

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It reminds me so much of Darker Than Black. I don't think that it will be as good, but it should be a good watch.

 
Nov 30, 2012 6:57 PM

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LOL. The Mandarin had some native speakers, but you could definitely tell who were voiced by Japanese people. The Chinese sounds so weird. XD

I loved it. I didn't think it would reach my expectations, since the rank was so low (I don't see why that is right now).
But I think it has almost gone above my expectations. Great episode. :D
 
Oct 27, 2013 10:27 AM

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Okay first episode, I'm kind of just hoping this doesn't turn in to something like Charlie's Angels only with Superhumans instead of chicks.
 
May 11, 2014 2:23 AM

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There seems to be some character depth here which is good, I also like the time setting as well as actually attempting to use other languages. Then add in some supernatural powers for some extra fun. Definitely interested in this one.
 
Aug 27, 2014 12:17 PM

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Pretty nice action for the first episode, a bit slow paced but well I do wonder what the rest of the anime will offer us, coming from the 0 episode special it sure does seem quite interesting!
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Apr 18, 2016 10:30 PM

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The broken Mandarin sounds even worse than your typical anime's broken English. I'm dying. Hearing a few of the extras speak proper Mandarin is a much needed break.

I find it funny how Chinese characters are drawn with stereotypically slantier eyes even though the slant eye stereotype applies to all East Asians, which includes the Japanese. Why you do this, Japan.

Nice art, though.
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Feb 4, 2017 5:33 PM
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I'm kind of offended as a Chinese. Like they go around killing a bunch of Chinese and they don't care afterward. -.- And they drew like every Chinese person so ugly. And they don't mention that they literally went to attack them. And apparently their excuse is because they kidnapped the chairman. The reason why they kidnapped the chairman is because they attacked them and they are self defensing. They also said that apparently shanghai is a very dangerous city and they called it a "devil's city". then they even got a character to cry about how hard shanghai is. Not to mention, they pronounced the Chinese words so awfully. Like I know they might not be able to speak Chinese well because they are Japanese. but when they go around killing a bunch of chinese and making them like idiots and animals, it's kind of offensive.
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Nov 2, 2017 8:28 PM

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I kind of like the teleportation part. I think I'm beginning to like the story. I'm not very familiar with Chinese language or so, so I have no comment. Can't wait to watch more of the eps




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Wow I am surprised they didn't get caught with their horrible Mandarin!
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