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Dec 6, 2021 11:02 AM
#1
| so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... |
Dec 6, 2021 11:14 AM
#2
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse |
V1P3R0PDec 6, 2021 11:19 AM
Dec 6, 2021 11:17 AM
#3
KruxKnight said: yeah, I agree with you, I felt it weird as well🤔, I think that since Rudy saw that Oersted knew the names of Eris and Ruijerd and that Oersted asked him if he was an apostol of Hitogami, he thought that Oersted might know something important or that he was like an envoy of Hitogami, but I don't know xDso in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Apart from that, it was a magnific chapter!🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 |
Dec 6, 2021 11:39 AM
#4
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! |
DKDiabloLichtDec 6, 2021 11:43 AM
Dec 6, 2021 11:43 AM
#5
| It’s not just that he was curious it’s that as it was mentioned Rudeus doesn’t feel pressured or scared by certain people or something like that and ofc he was also curious so he felt like it wasn’t dangerous to ask. Idk that’s just what I thought but what an insane ep that was tho |
Dec 6, 2021 11:54 AM
#6
| Rudeus isnt affected by Orsteds curse. Whatever Ruijerd and Eris felt, he didnt. When you cant feel killing intent from someone, no matter what the reaction of others is you cant jump to conclusions. Sure Rudeus shouldve understood the situation, but when you're accompanied by a strong ally like Ruijerd, its not easy to think thay there is someone who Ruijerd himself is scared of. Also he didnt think anyone knew about Hitogamid existence and that as a God, he may have simply been worshipped like any other God that's why he may have thought some ppl who worship Hitogami may know of his existence. |
Dec 6, 2021 12:03 PM
#7
DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! He hasn't been trying to keep Hitogami advice as a secret, he just thinks it's too weird of a thing and would probably lead to other questions hinting at his real big secret that he's reincarnated. Hell, he even asked Ruijerd about Hitogami the first time he saw him. Pretty dumb of him but I would understand him being excited of finding some super encyclopedia guy that happens to also know about the weird guy he knows nothing about and keeps meddling in his life. |
Dec 6, 2021 12:07 PM
#8
Bariel-kun said: DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! He hasn't been trying to keep Hitogami advice as a secret, he just thinks it's too weird of a thing and would probably lead to other questions hinting at his real big secret that he's reincarnated. Hell, he even asked Ruijerd about Hitogami the first time he saw him. Pretty dumb of him but I would understand him being excited of finding some super encyclopedia guy that happens to also know about the weird guy he knows nothing and keeps meddling in his life. Yeah true but he definitely saw how Ruijerd looked and Eris too. If he really paid attention in the slightest he should have known that this was not a person you talk to, and you should let him keep it moving. He almost died and could have EASILY gotten two people he cares about killed. I just REALLY really hope he uses his damn brain and is more cautious now that he was basically dead and now that he knows regardless of his mana and magic strength there are people that can absolutely ANNIHILATE him and getting a question answered isn't worth the risk. |
Dec 6, 2021 12:26 PM
#9
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... In the LN Rudeus says that Orsted gives him the same vibes as Man-God, which made him think that Orsted knew something. That's why he called out to him. |
Dec 6, 2021 12:34 PM
#10
| The explanation doesn't really matter. He lacks common sense, can't read a room, etc. That's human. Orsted had done nothing to justify the fear. I think the episode showed this brilliantly with the use of sound. Had he talked then he may have issued a threat but nothing he did was threatening until Rudeus mentioned the Man-God. Orsted has only one purpose. |
Dec 6, 2021 12:43 PM
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Dec 6, 2021 12:59 PM
#12
Rob7 said: Hey, good thing, now Rudeus learnt a lesson. How good would be if the same kind of lesson was given to Rudeus about his annoying perv conduct. I guess that'd be Turning point 34 |
| "All truth is meaningless. In the end, 'meaning' comes from the mind of each individual human. Even when there is a single truth, it can mean different things to different individuals. The truth has no meaning in itself!" - Erika Furudo |
Dec 6, 2021 2:06 PM
#13
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... I read the LN and doesn't even think about it lol |
Dec 6, 2021 2:19 PM
#14
DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! For the first part he questioning who orsted is, it's probably wrong, but after orsted question about hitogami is unpredictable. When some strange come into your dream and he want you to trust him, it's sound sus doesn't it? So when you don't know about this weird "Man-god" when nobody know this "god" and there is a person who know it ofc he will get curious since he need other perspective about this "god". |
Dec 6, 2021 3:49 PM
#15
| So ruijerd and Eris get a pass for shouting 'How the fuck do u know my name' but Rudeus, who isn't even afraid, nor affected by the curse get bashed ? kek |
Dec 6, 2021 3:53 PM
#16
randomage said: So ruijerd and Eris get a pass for shouting 'How the fuck do u know my name' but Rudeus, who isn't even afraid, nor affected by the curse get bashed ? kek He got bashed specifically because he mentioned seeing Hitogami in his dream |
Dec 6, 2021 3:58 PM
#17
| Nope, Rudeus can't read the Room, it's his flaw as a person, the results of him being Neet for 30year in his past life. he never think about how his actions will affect other people, in Demon Continent he let the bird person died because he wants to look good and saving him in the right time, then he dive straight into shirone prince trap, and hell, if Orsted didn't absorb his fire, the explosion will kill both eris and ruijerd even himself. It's character flaw but this experience will give him a valuable lesson. |
Dec 6, 2021 10:01 PM
#18
| No rudeus did read the room. He only asked a simple question which wasn't what triggered orsted. The hitogami connection was what triggered the flag. There was no way rudeus would have known what sort of feelings orsted had towards hitogami. It was a perfectly normal conversation where rudeus had been extremely diligent, giving utmost respect to orsted and showed decency. Moreover, this is the first guy rudeus met who actually knows hitogami. Rudeus couldn't say about hitogami to Eris and ruijerd probably because he felt hitogami connection would cause some kinda distortion in their relationships. He himself wasn't sure to whether or not he should trust hitogami. That changed very recently since Lilia incident. And all of a sudden someone shows up and says the word hitogami. This guy could've had additional information about hitogami, about what his motive is, or he may be going through the same situation rudeus is going through, or he may have been another reincarnated person who can see hitogami. There's multiple possibilities that could've helped rudeus in one way or other. But most importantly, Rudeus finally met someone who has some information about what's going on with himself and hitogami. So it's kinda obvious that Rudeus would want to know more about hitogami from orsted |
Dec 7, 2021 3:55 AM
#19
RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse Still though, everything about that situation was very queer I'd say, not just the expressions of Eris and ruijerd, but just look at oersted, his face is literally glowing silver near his eyes, not to mention there's a weird girl accompanying him wearing a mask, if this doesn't give off a weird vibe to not trifle with such people,then I don't know what would... Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily,logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks |
KruxKnightDec 7, 2021 4:00 AM
Dec 7, 2021 4:06 AM
#20
KruxKnight said: RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse Still though, everything about that situation was very queer I'd say, not just the expressions of Eris and ruijerd, but just look at oersted, his face is literally glowing silver near his eyes, not to mention there's a weird girl accompanying him wearing a mask, if this doesn't give off a weird vibe to not trifle with such people,then I don't know what would... Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily,logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks No he doesn't have the maturity of a 40+ year old man, despite being that age. Years of trauma and being locked in his room as a shut-in otaku mentally affects his judgment and growth significantly as he sticks to the same room and routine while running away from everything affecting him for many years. Everyone functions and runs differently based on their environment, some can shine and mature nicely over time, some people like Rudeus in his past life feel stuck for ages due to not going outside, working and growing on his own and just watching anime and hentai and playing games the entire time while running away from all of his family with confronting them and breaking out of his shell. |
Dec 7, 2021 4:11 AM
#21
KruxKnight said: He might be a 40 year old man underneath but with 20 years in a room with no social interaction can definitely lead someone to lack the ability to read the room, as well as other social skills. Not the first time he was like this, similar thing happened with Paul in Millishion.RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse Still though, everything about that situation was very queer I'd say, not just the expressions of Eris and ruijerd, but just look at oersted, his face is literally glowing silver near his eyes, not to mention there's a weird girl accompanying him wearing a mask, if this doesn't give off a weird vibe to not trifle with such people,then I don't know what would... Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily, logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks |
Dec 7, 2021 4:14 AM
#22
KruxKnight said: Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily,logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks Just coz he's 40+ mature man in the inside, doesnt make him any less curious. For starters he was a shut in for, lets say 20+ years in his previous life. To put it directly, he's socially awkward. how can you justify that he'll be able to read the room properly. Also if you have noticed a minor detail, he was curious on seeing the masked girl's black hair, which none of that world's people have Also the silver thing on orsted's face is only noticable by us, the viewers(that's my theory for them not mentioning it). It's just easy for us to tell, why'd he do this and that, since we observe this story as a third person. But it's hard to be in the first person experiencing the same situation(Ik this is a fiction. I'm just telling about it in general.) |
V1P3R0PDec 7, 2021 4:19 AM
Dec 7, 2021 4:22 AM
#23
| Funny to know people think this shut in is a genius now. |
Dec 7, 2021 4:31 AM
#24
DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! That's the whole point of the plot, you dumdum. "Jobless Reincarnation - If I get a second chance, I will live a better life". He is trying to live a social life after being a socially awkward neet for his entire previous life. It's only natural for his character to be this bad in the beginning. When the story progresses, he develops a better character. Why do you want all main characters to be flawless and well written. flawed characters also play important roles in stories. |
Dec 7, 2021 4:41 AM
#25
| You're problem is that you're assuming that rudeus is smart But he isn't He's just too smart for a kid but normal as an adult |
Dec 7, 2021 6:12 AM
#27
Incandescence24 said: Funny to know people think this shut in is a genius now. Funny to know people think it takes a genius to understand "don't move a muscle" |
Dec 7, 2021 6:20 AM
#28
mshfqtny said: You're problem is that you're assuming that rudeus is smart But he isn't He's just too smart for a kid but normal as an adult Yea, I understand that he's normal as an adult, an introverted and perverted adult, and that doesn't bother me really, it's important for the main character to have flaws too, or else character development would become impossible The only thing I find absurd is that, really ,you don't even have to be good at reading the room to understand what to do when the strongest guy you've met says "don't move a muscle"...,any even regular 12 year old would get that,let alone adult, Also I feel that my point about that masked woman still stands... |
Dec 7, 2021 6:27 AM
#29
KruxKnight said: Incandescence24 said: Funny to know people think this shut in is a genius now. Funny to know people think it takes a genius to understand "don't move a muscle" Irrelevant to my comment but well remember Roxy told Rudeus about Superds that they are dangerous then after teleport incident,someone who calls himself a god appears who Rudeus deems sketchy and tells him to be friendly about some Superd.What Rudeus did there? He wasnt judgemental and followed some god who he didnt even trust fully OVER Roxy who had an impact on his life. Same thing happened here He is immune to Orsted's curses and most likely confused by Ruijerd's warning,It was Orsted who initiated the convo here in a normal manner then he decided to talk and get the info about displacement incident because some eps back he was punched for not searching his family. The trigger wasn't that he talked to Orsted rather him responding to Hito statement because this is first time some other entity brought up that name. |
Dec 7, 2021 6:53 AM
#30
RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily,logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks Just coz he's 40+ mature man in the inside, doesnt make him any less curious. For starters he was a shut in for, lets say 20+ years in his previous life. To put it directly, he's socially awkward. how can you justify that he'll be able to read the room properly. Also if you have noticed a minor detail, he was curious on seeing the masked girl's black hair, which none of that world's people have Also the silver thing on orsted's face is only noticable by us, the viewers(that's my theory for them not mentioning it). It's just easy for us to tell, why'd he do this and that, since we observe this story as a third person. But it's hard to be in the first person experiencing the same situation(Ik this is a fiction. I'm just telling about it in general.) I agree with a few points you make here, about the first person perspective and us having it easy,and also the black hair thing Also I'm pretty sure he can see those silver glowy marks, because if you pause the episode at 9:14 , you'll see what rudeas sees with his foresight and there the mark is clearly shown, Well I still think he should have understood that"don't move a muscle", considering everything, so this scene seems a little bit of a stretch to me, but a few things here and there are alright I guess, thanks for the explanation... |
Dec 7, 2021 6:57 AM
#31
dabdabgoose said: KruxKnight said: He might be a 40 year old man underneath but with 20 years in a room with no social interaction can definitely lead someone to lack the ability to read the room, as well as other social skills. Not the first time he was like this, similar thing happened with Paul in Millishion.RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse Still though, everything about that situation was very queer I'd say, not just the expressions of Eris and ruijerd, but just look at oersted, his face is literally glowing silver near his eyes, not to mention there's a weird girl accompanying him wearing a mask, if this doesn't give off a weird vibe to not trifle with such people,then I don't know what would... Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily, logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks Yea that I understand, that was natural for someone who sucks at reading the room, he failed to make eye contact and get the cue, but I feel he should have easily understood things here because of that "don't move a muscle" and oersted's appearance generally and foresight withstanding |
Dec 7, 2021 7:00 AM
#32
KruxKnight said: I don't think he would of said something until Orsted started prying into them though, the fact he knew things about them despite them never meeting would definitely have him intrigued and it wasn't like he was talking in a hostile manner at that stage.dabdabgoose said: KruxKnight said: RamanathPai said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... A weird man comes into your dream and gives you strange advices. Then another complete stranger refers to that person with you. Of course you'll get excited that there is someone else who knows about the man who comes in your dreams. Its only natural since Rudeus didnt notice the killing intent in Orsted's glare that he easily acknowledged about his familiarity with hitogami. Also about why he was dumb to speak with a stranger even after looking at Ruijerd and Eris's expression was because he was curious how orsted knows about them. Orsted doesn't have the power to read minds or manipulate people. So he just asked Rudeus to check if he was really getting used by Hitogami or not, since he didnt show any reaction to his curse Still though, everything about that situation was very queer I'd say, not just the expressions of Eris and ruijerd, but just look at oersted, his face is literally glowing silver near his eyes, not to mention there's a weird girl accompanying him wearing a mask, if this doesn't give off a weird vibe to not trifle with such people,then I don't know what would... Also, mere curiousity isn't enough to Justify the situation, if rudeas was actually 12, then maybe, but he's got the maturity of a 40+ man, so his maturity should have easily, logically given him the cue to not disturb these folks Yea that I understand, that was natural for someone who sucks at reading the room, he failed to make eye contact and get the cue, but I feel he should have easily understood things here because of that "don't move a muscle" and oersted's appearance generally and foresight withstanding |
Dec 7, 2021 7:45 AM
#33
Incandescence24 said: KruxKnight said: Incandescence24 said: Funny to know people think this shut in is a genius now. Funny to know people think it takes a genius to understand "don't move a muscle" Irrelevant to my comment but well remember Roxy told Rudeus about Superds that they are dangerous then after teleport incident,someone who calls himself a god appears who Rudeus deems sketchy and tells him to be friendly about some Superd.What Rudeus did there? He wasnt judgemental and followed some god who he didnt even trust fully OVER Roxy who had an impact on his life. Same thing happened here He is immune to Orsted's curses and most likely confused by Ruijerd's warning,It was Orsted who initiated the convo here in a normal manner then he decided to talk and get the info about displacement incident because some eps back he was punched for not searching his family. The trigger wasn't that he talked to Orsted rather him responding to Hito statement because this is first time some other entity brought up that name. How is that irrelevant to your comment... And the situation was different here, unlike ruijerd , this guy showed no message through body language that he meant no harm ,which ruijerd did... Also there wasn't much that rudeas could have done there in a different continent all on his own(and Eris) so he had to sorta rely on him taking a calculated risk, here he could have simply moved on |
Dec 7, 2021 8:52 AM
#34
RamanathPai said: DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! That's the whole point of the plot, you dumdum. "Jobless Reincarnation - If I get a second chance, I will live a better life". He is trying to live a social life after being a socially awkward neet for his entire previous life. It's only natural for his character to be this bad in the beginning. When the story progresses, he develops a better character. Why do you want all main characters to be flawless and well written. flawed characters also play important roles in stories. Lol it doesn't matter if you are bad at general conversation, if you see the MOST powerful guy you know looking like he's about to piss his pants and is looking at the damn Boogie Man, you know this is NOT the time to casually talk to the dude because you're curious. |
Dec 7, 2021 9:25 AM
#35
DKDiabloLicht said: Thing is Rudy has always been a curious person. Orsted was not giving out any intent to hurt him, hell it wasn't until Rudy mentioned hitogami that Orsted attacked so I really don't understand the hate. In the Ln it goes more into debt saying that Orsted gave off a feeling similar to hitogami but the anime did enough. Aren't you going to get annoyed at Ruijerd and Eris for asking Orsterd how he knows their names? So they can talk but not Rudeus?RamanathPai said: DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! That's the whole point of the plot, you dumdum. "Jobless Reincarnation - If I get a second chance, I will live a better life". He is trying to live a social life after being a socially awkward neet for his entire previous life. It's only natural for his character to be this bad in the beginning. When the story progresses, he develops a better character. Why do you want all main characters to be flawless and well written. flawed characters also play important roles in stories. Lol it doesn't matter if you are bad at general conversation, if you see the MOST powerful guy you know looking like he's about to piss his pants and is looking at the damn Boogie Man, you know this is NOT the time to casually talk to the dude because you're curious. If Rudy didn't think out of the Box as he usually has he would not have befreinded Sylphy or Ruijerd (who btw made Eris breakdown just from his appearance, which is an even crazier reaction than just freezing in place). Yet rudy talked to him like a buddy. Of course hitogami told Rudy that Ruijerd could be trusted. Hitogami never warned Rudy about Orsted (he couldn't). If he knew Rudy was in danger of dying he would have told Rudy and that would've put his guard up. Also when Rudy first met Ruijerd he asked if hitogami sent him. Ruijerd obviously had no idea who it was, so I don't think Rudy was purposely trying to hide it. |
Dec 7, 2021 9:47 AM
#36
UMadorNah said: DKDiabloLicht said: Thing is Rudy has always been a curious person. Orsted was not giving out any intent to hurt him, hell it wasn't until Rudy mentioned hitogami that Orsted attacked so I really don't understand the hate. In the Ln it goes more into debt saying that Orsted gave off a feeling similar to hitogami but the anime did enough. Aren't you going to get annoyed at Ruijerd and Eris for asking Orsterd how he knows their names? So they can talk but not Rudeus?RamanathPai said: DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! That's the whole point of the plot, you dumdum. "Jobless Reincarnation - If I get a second chance, I will live a better life". He is trying to live a social life after being a socially awkward neet for his entire previous life. It's only natural for his character to be this bad in the beginning. When the story progresses, he develops a better character. Why do you want all main characters to be flawless and well written. flawed characters also play important roles in stories. Lol it doesn't matter if you are bad at general conversation, if you see the MOST powerful guy you know looking like he's about to piss his pants and is looking at the damn Boogie Man, you know this is NOT the time to casually talk to the dude because you're curious. If Rudy didn't think out of the Box as he usually has he would not have befreinded Sylphy or Ruijerd (who btw made Eris breakdown just from his appearance, which is an even crazier reaction than just freezing in place). Yet rudy talked to him like a buddy. Of course hitogami told Rudy that Ruijerd could be trusted. Hitogami never warned Rudy about Orsted (he couldn't). If he knew Rudy was in danger of dying he would have told Rudy and that would've put his guard up. Also when Rudy first met Ruijerd he asked if hitogami sent him. Ruijerd obviously had no idea who it was, so I don't think Rudy was purposely trying to hide it. Yeah but like a few episodes back he specifically thought "Until I know what that creepy pale guy wants I'm not going to tell anyone about him" or something along those lines. Honestly to me that scene was like the equivalent of you running into Freddy Krueger and you don't know who he is, but your allies do and are shitting in their pants, and you decide to just shoot the shit lol. And what is an absolute fact it's his fault that Ruijerd got his ASS beat and Eris destroyed and hurt worse than she's ever been (closest is when the kidnappers stomped her out but she looked more hurt here although that time the teeth breaking made it look bad). I wasn't really think about how he was still feeling guilty about the Paul stuff and worried about Zenith so he wanted information. If he would have just had an internal monologue "Should I tell him? Will it help me find Zenith?" And then he spit it out, then I'd feel better but it was literally 0.2 seconds to a complete stranger. Anyway I can't wait to meet Orsted again, I am at Volume 8 and I can't wait to see how that all turns out. I really would love him to help him with his curse and be cool with him since he's SUCH a badass MF. |
Dec 7, 2021 9:50 AM
#37
DKDiabloLicht said: But they didn't know who he was. And Orsterd was the one who started the conversation. Both eris and ruijerd ended up responding. What was so bad about Rudy doing it? The only reason it escalated was because he mentioned hitogami otherwise Orsted was just a chill person. And thanks to Rudy we were able to get a bunch of lore and theory making so i take it as a win.UMadorNah said: DKDiabloLicht said: RamanathPai said: DKDiabloLicht said: KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Yeah I totally agree, everyone says that Oh he was curious and I understand that. But How many people would keep a secret for YEARS from even those closest to you, and then not only to spill it to a SUPER dangerous opponent who the strongest person you've ever known is terrified of, but also spill the beans to Ruijerd and Eris at the same time!! Like wtf, after he just said I'm not telling anyone about him until I know more about what he wants, a few episodes ago. Nobody is doing that! I don't care how curious you are, if you're curious ask some questions, but don't talk about an seemingly imaginary guy you see in your dreams after knowing him for 60 seconds. Honestly what these last few episodes have taught me is Rudeus is HORRIBLE at reading the room and paying attention. When he was telling the story to Paul while Paul looks gloomy and miserable and EVERYONE in the room was staring at you. Then when he FOUGHT guards, stole someone they were trying to capture away from them, then walking into that SAME area, seeing them and saying "Hey didn't I see you guys?!" (Stupid MF) and after that you hand over your staff! And then when you hear a Man's voice and not Roxy's you don't activate your Demon Eye which would have saved you from the hole(Yes I know he was following Hitogami's advice but he doesn't trust him). And then this episode his comrades are HORRIFIED to the point Ruijerd is shaking, then tightly grabbing his weapon and telling you not to move, and he's got that stupid smirk and is just all jovial when he's thinking about how Orsted said Paul only had two daughters. I really REALLY hope that going forward he's a lot more intelligent and cautious, because even as far back as when he went to free the dog, if he would have just said Ruijerd wait by the entrance, they would have been with the children they just saved and they could have explained. Instead he's been imprisoned twice in 8-9 episodes and then destroyed and his big mouth got Eris and Ruijerd destroyed too. If you want to be an idiot go for it but don't do things that will get your party members killed to satisfy your curiosity! That's the whole point of the plot, you dumdum. "Jobless Reincarnation - If I get a second chance, I will live a better life". He is trying to live a social life after being a socially awkward neet for his entire previous life. It's only natural for his character to be this bad in the beginning. When the story progresses, he develops a better character. Why do you want all main characters to be flawless and well written. flawed characters also play important roles in stories. Lol it doesn't matter if you are bad at general conversation, if you see the MOST powerful guy you know looking like he's about to piss his pants and is looking at the damn Boogie Man, you know this is NOT the time to casually talk to the dude because you're curious. If Rudy didn't think out of the Box as he usually has he would not have befreinded Sylphy or Ruijerd (who btw made Eris breakdown just from his appearance, which is an even crazier reaction than just freezing in place). Yet rudy talked to him like a buddy. Of course hitogami told Rudy that Ruijerd could be trusted. Hitogami never warned Rudy about Orsted (he couldn't). If he knew Rudy was in danger of dying he would have told Rudy and that would've put his guard up. Also when Rudy first met Ruijerd he asked if hitogami sent him. Ruijerd obviously had no idea who it was, so I don't think Rudy was purposely trying to hide it. Yeah but like a few episodes back he specifically thought "Until I know what that creepy pale guy wants I'm not going to tell anyone about him" or something along those lines. Honestly to me that scene was like the equivalent of you running into Freddy Krueger and you don't know who he is, but your allies do and are shitting in their pants, and you decide to just shoot the shit lol. And what is an absolute fact it's his fault that Ruijerd got his ASS beat and Eris destroyed and hurt worse than she's ever been (closest is when the kidnappers stomped her out but she looked more hurt here although that time the teeth breaking made it look bad). I wasn't really think about how he was still feeling guilty about the Paul stuff and worried about Zenith so he wanted information. If he would have just had an internal monologue "Should I tell him? Will it help me find Zenith?" And then he spit it out, then I'd feel better but it was literally 0.2 seconds to a complete stranger. Anyway I can't wait to meet Orsted again, I am at Volume 8 and I can't wait to see how that all turns out. I really would love him to help him with his curse and be cool with him since he's SUCH a badass MF. Glad you enjoying tho |
Dec 7, 2021 1:12 PM
#38
KruxKnight said: He's not smart he just knows common sense but yh it's little weird for not him to know the situation I felt like it was lazy writing at that pointso in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... |
Dec 7, 2021 2:04 PM
#39
| Rudy just got too cocky and selfish, he thought he is powerful enough and with Ruijerd in his team he can let his guard down even though Ruijerd warned him he didn't listen.. Besides i think he has never thought a god would cross their path in this place. |
Dec 7, 2021 2:14 PM
#40
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Rudeus has a consistent difficulty "reading the room" so-to-speak, which relates to his first life as a NEET with no social life. it's one of those things he can and hopefully will grow out of as he sheds more of the damage and learned bad behaviors/thought patterns of his previous self. it leads to giant bruh moments like this. he's also pretty damned arrogant, which has repeatedly bit him hard in the ass. |
Feb 3, 2022 2:41 AM
#41
| Can someone please explain to me why orsted said that Paul only has two daughters and no son in episode 10? Please no spoilers past this episode. |
Feb 3, 2022 5:33 AM
#42
bov12345 said: Can someone please explain to me why orsted said that Paul only has two daughters and no son in episode 10? Please no spoilers past this episode. There is a reason, and it's a plot line for way in the future so can't reveal it yet. |
Feb 13, 2022 11:12 PM
#43
KruxKnight said: so in episode 10, basically rudeas , who's actually smart, suddenly didn't get a clue about how serious the situation was from ruijerd's or eris' expressions' and more importantly suddenly opened up about hitogami, who he was so tight lipped about even with his companions whom he's known for years, to a complete stranger??, was this because of some power of oersted's or some plot hole/device...?[I don't mean to be nitpicky , but this has been bothering me...] because, this was pretty weird,ngl... what do you guys think?, any info is appreciated... also no spoilers please... Ruijerd and Eris frightened expression is not because Orsted is so powerful. It's because he has a curse. Which didn't affect Rudy. |
Jun 6, 2022 11:47 PM
#44
| In addition to what others have mentioned, we've seen this happen with Ruijerd already. Everyone is clearly terrified of the Superd bc of their curse (at that time the curse was still in effect) but Rudeus is not affected by that curse either. Even without hitogami's advice, Rudeus probably would've been ok with Ruijerd tailing them in the demon continent once he saw that ruijerd meant no harm. He gets that Orsted was scary looking and his friends are afraid of him, but the same was true about Ruijerd and that worked out just fine. At the time (kinda like orsted) Ruijerd was utterly shocked that Rudeus was willing to engage in conversation with him. Bc of his personality, his relative obsession with politeness, the safety he felt bc of ruijerd (and hitogami looking out for him), his past experience with Ruijerd, and his immunity to the curse, he just can't wrap his mind around automatically fearing someone. So yeah him being an idiot at that point i think is consistent but still dumb on his part ofc. If i remember correctly, more or less, Rudeus described Orsted as a normal yes angry looking but also lonely looking guy. |
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