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Dec 4, 2021 5:46 AM

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Great work on making mal have a more modern design with the new favorites design and at last new categories but like the users have said reducing image size to fit 10 entries would be really great improvement to this new design. Having double layers can also solve the problem of "clicking to view all favorites" for normal users as well as supporters alike. I actually remember a user script which had same double layer design mentioned but I don't know if it still works or has been updated.
As for the new category take my vote on OP/ED and studio.



Dec 4, 2021 5:59 AM

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Genoard said:
I, for one, suggest just making the old layout horizontally scrollable:


this might be the best one
also you can screenshot all at once if you zoom out, makes it screenshot-friendly

I do like the idea of adding OP/ED as favourties
I doubt people actually care about Studio or other favourites tho
Dec 4, 2021 6:02 AM

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It doesn't change the fact that it's worst. I hate not being able to just take a look and see everything in someone's profile.

And yeah, it's obvious that people would stop complaining with time if you don't change it back. This happens with every bad design change ever.

I like the idea of OP/ED favorites, but I hate the idea of Studios as favorites. It propagates this idea that puts the name of a studio above the artists that work for them. I would prefer just two separate sections for OP and ED.

Instead of working on this, MAL should put more work on the anime/manga DB itself. Allow entries to be easily added and allow changes to not take forever. There's so many manga missing and so many character pictures that are just plain bad. Maybe add a feature to vote for best character picture or be able to choose one when adding a character to your favorite list?
Dec 4, 2021 6:18 AM

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Meh, it's really ugly now. At least put an option to choose the design we want
Dec 4, 2021 8:42 AM
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Welll this certainly was unexpected but the only problem with it was that supporters who have 20 favorites people would not scroll right to see all of them but thats just a minor thing

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Dec 4, 2021 9:33 AM

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Genoard said:
I, for one, suggest just making the old layout horizontally scrollable:


I think this is a great alternative. Can still have the extended list of favourites, but displays everything vertically (allowing for actual tiered ranking, similar to the Top Anime categories).

I feel like the tiering/ ranking factor of Columns are completely missed in this update. Almost everything on this website (particularly the desktop version) is listed in a vertical fashion. Introducing horizontal alternatives, which due to MAL's tightly restricted page format, limits what can be displayed in a row.

I also greatly dislike the loss of immediate information from listings, such as the anime format (TV, movie, etc), the year information, as well as the series information attached to characters. This is expanded upon by the requirement for more and more interactions to actually see the rest of the information, be it hovering over an icon, or clicking multiple times to see it in the first place.

Additionally, regarding the "Favourites Map" listing, I feel like this is simply an observation of Anilist's format and attempting to adopt that. While I do not have any issues with a new page appearing specifically, I do not think it should be utilized as the "main view" for Favourites. If I am going to showcase what I like (in ranked order) via the Supporter feature, I want it all to be visible and easily accessed, not hidden behind a drop-down & a vertically shuffling row that requires more actions than what we previously had.
Dec 4, 2021 9:54 AM

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@Brati

Yes I'm able to do it, I just don't know if I will
Dec 4, 2021 10:36 AM

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Kineta said:
Then I recall all of the complaints in 2015 when the new profile design was released. Do you know how many people hated the favorites design then?

This is such a convenient way to wave away any bad decision. "People always complain." As if the complaints are not justified. But who cares, people will eventually shut up, right?
Dec 4, 2021 9:35 PM

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Genoard said:
I, for one, suggest just making the old layout horizontally scrollable:


This looks so much better than the dreck that was pushed on us.
Dec 4, 2021 10:35 PM

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thanks for your hard work. please revert back to the old favorites layout 😭😭





Dec 5, 2021 7:46 AM

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Well, since there's apparently no going back to the old design, you should at least look into the image sizing. Look how it looks like when the picture doesn't fit the 225x350 standard (which happens often with characters and people pictures):

In the old design if there was any difference the image would either adapt by cutting edges and centralising and it wouldn't be as apparent, since it was vertical, but now it leaves a big grey space beneath it. It looks kinda bad.

That also happens with the anime and manga category, under every image there's a small grey bar because they don't fit well with the alocated space. Maybe it's supposed to be like this, but it's kinda weird because not every anime/manga cover has the same size and so they look disjointed when you put them side by side like this.
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Dec 5, 2021 9:08 AM

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NubFix said:
Genoard said:
I, for one, suggest just making the old layout horizontally scrollable:


this might be the best one
also you can screenshot all at once if you zoom out, makes it screenshot-friendly

I do like the idea of adding OP/ED as favourties
I doubt people actually care about Studio or other favourites tho
I wish they just did this instead.
Dec 5, 2021 9:13 AM

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You could just add a button next to each category to turn them into a grid.
Dec 5, 2021 12:29 PM
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This explains everything. Alright, I'm sold now!


Now, as for suggestions:
Can the "Anime" section be split into "Anime", "Donghua" and "Aeni"? And the "Manga" section into "Manga", "Novels", "Manhwa" and "Manhua"? Because, grammatically speaking, right now it doesn't make sense to have a novel or a Korean comic in "Favorite Manga", for example. Or a Chinese cartoon in "Favorite Anime". Since, by definition, "anime" are Japanese cartoons specifically, and manga are Japanese comic books

And I am all for favorite episodes, favorite OPs and favorite EDs. Those seem like fun and useful inclusions to me! :D
Personally, I couldn't really care one way or the other about favorite studio, but I know there will be a lot of people on board with that, so I'm glad for their sakes


And don't worry about dark mode. At this point, I think it's more of a meme than a genuine suggestion anyways, lol
Kasen-IbaraDec 5, 2021 12:36 PM
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Dec 5, 2021 12:42 PM
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Extra categories I'd like to see added (no pressure of course):
Favorite openings and favorite endings (I see a lot of people grouping these two categories together, although I'd personally prefer it if openings and endings were split into two distinct categories)
Favorite episodes
Favorite studios

Also, while we're on the subject, perhaps we could also add a "least favorites" section as well? After all, MAL is all about showing off your personal tastes, and someone's least favorites are just as much a part of their tastes as their favorites...
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Dec 5, 2021 3:34 PM

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Reducing the image size would make this new layout much better looking.
Dec 5, 2021 11:28 PM

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Fucking a lol, at least give us the option to go back to the vertical layout.

Shit looks cluttered and messy.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

Dec 6, 2021 6:42 AM

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A better option would've been to have vertical favorites columns without the text, just the thumbnails.
That would allow you to fit at least 3 more columns of whatever you want.

Instead of this weird idea that makes profiles look ugly as hell and adds even more pointless whitespace to the page if you have fewer anime favs than manga (like I do).
Dec 6, 2021 8:11 AM

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Kineta said:


Reduce the images to fit 10 instead of 8.
As written above, the Recommendations design is the easiest to use in the short term. There also becomes issues of title length and no one ever clicking right to see MAL Supporter favorites.



Well if it is only a temporary change, that is fine.
Funny since it wasn't an issue before, of course people don't want to click right to see Support favs.
I'll be on standby for a subscription if this issue is ever fixed.
Dec 6, 2021 11:05 AM

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You have awoken me from my (nearly) eternal MAL forum slumber just so that I can say this:

This change is as bad as the complete overhaul of the profile design that you did about five years ago and that says a lot because that one was a complete disaster. Booo
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Dec 6, 2021 12:22 PM

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so pretty much

tldr; we changed things, didnt tell you about them, didnt ask for your feedback. now that you all have given your feedback and nobody likes it, we are still going to go ahead with it because we have already started it
Dec 6, 2021 12:31 PM

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Genoard said:
I, for one, suggest just making the old layout horizontally scrollable:


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Its crazy that the person leading this project is probably paying thousands to someone who designed something far worse than what you did. All they had to do was outreach to the community instead they paid some B-list coder to create the disaster we have now
Dec 6, 2021 10:22 PM

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visual novels please.
Dec 8, 2021 4:28 PM
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I think there could be a "Favorite Series" where you can put manga, anime, novels etc. mixed regardless of medium, balancing out by lets say, chosing not to have either a favorite manga or favorite anime space, just like currently all "people" are in the same category for the time being regardless of what they do.
Dec 8, 2021 4:47 PM

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Probably a little more off topic, but a column to put the favourites of that year? It'd be easier to organise for AOTY/AOTS if you ask me
Dec 8, 2021 5:47 PM
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more clear and simple category of characters
Dec 8, 2021 6:24 PM
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Zech_TearZ said:
visual novels please.

Seconding this. I would love to have visual novels on here too.
Dec 8, 2021 8:09 PM

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Studios, definitely.
Dec 8, 2021 8:38 PM

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This revised version of the new design that rolled out a few minutes ago looks pretty decent, although wasnt needed
Dec 8, 2021 9:33 PM

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Favourite movies and ost. Also, if you're creating a whole new "favourites" page for that, then you can add a bunch of new favourite categories rather than adding just 1 or 2.
Dec 9, 2021 12:15 AM

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Nubiellee said:
Studios, OP/EDs and favorite episodes sounds nice... I was thinking about favorite franchises but I don't know if people would be interested. lol
Favourite franchise!
Yes, I would love it. Oftentimes, I would love a series but then it has many seasons so I am forced to select a particular season of it. There are also multiple anime/manga/LN adaptation of the same story and it would be just a lot better if I could just select the franchise as favourite. I would love a favourite franchise column.
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Dec 9, 2021 7:07 AM

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I would like to see OP/ED being added as a category, and also seeing a separate Movie category.

While I don't personally feel too strongly about either layout format for favorites, I saw several suggestions of having the vertical favorites as an option and I agree with them. I think it would be a nice customization option to have that would satisfy everyone. I am unsure exactly how the Favorites on the profile vs the Favorite page will continue to develop, but I hope we are still able to keep favorites on our profile. In which case I hope we have the option to choose the categories that are displayed, and maybe that can be limited to 4 categories so that it's still compatible with the vertical favorites list (if that will be retained as a customization option).
Dec 9, 2021 10:38 PM

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OPs and EDs Is definitely the best option I've seen yet. Most preferably 2 separate categories.
I find Studios will be pretty difficult considering it's usually the specific people working on the projects for lots of people.
Dec 10, 2021 6:37 AM
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I liked the old favorite list.
The image quality still hasn't been fixed and I don't need to post a photo of that, because it has already been done on this thread.
I understand the dark mode issue. When this website was made the code is a mess and outdated. I remember Luna saying this.
Also, this suggestion thread so I will give a suggestion.
You can add visual novels for the favorite list.
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Dec 10, 2021 8:20 AM
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Honestly, I'm not sure there was anyone who liked the favorites design then—the same one everyone seems to feel so passionately about now.

I don't think it's about them being passionate (at least old users) but more like we had no choice but to get used to it.

There were some things in the old list design that I would love to have back, but I also agree that there are some things that are easier with the current one.

This is a small design change.

As others have said, I don't think this counts as a small change. At all.
Small change was adding the colors to sticky threads.
A design change on our profile page? I don't dare to imagine what will be a big change!

No one writes an official site announcement like this.

Sad, just because some others don't do it, it doesn't mean MAL has to be like that too. Although when some sites do small updates, they still provide a log for what's changed. Why not just have a pinned thread here for such things?
Small suggestion.
It's really not nice for a service one consumes to update itself without relying what changes they made. Makes one thing what important things might be done backstage that affects our information on this site that we will never learn about.


I would like to hear your suggestions for what kind of favorite categories you might want. To get you started, two long-requested categories are Studios and OP/EDs. I saw a Tweet requesting favorite episodes. What's in your mind?

I will just add on what others have said, but why not use existing things and make favorite categories of them? Tho I do agree about some of the suggested ones.

Anime by Type: TV, Movies, Specials, ONAs, OVAs and Music videos
Manga by Type: Manga, Light Novels, Novels, One Shots, etc (I don't recall all of them)
People by Roles
Studios
Magazines
Music (OP/ED). I don't really feel much about inserts cause that's not something MAL currently has on its database. That, I imagine, will take much more and there are other priorities I rather it focus on.

But if you go that far, maybe consider:

Themes/Tags
Character by Gender ? but that would require adding to DB a way to set them and that would open a Pandora Box on all the gender equality bleh problems....
... or even imagine someone requesting a favorites category of anime per year
Heck you could even make it so that people can add as favorites on Reviews and Articles.

Tho instead of favorites, I would rather have an upvote system for Recommendations, News and Articles, like there is for reviews.

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Dec 10, 2021 2:36 PM
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Guys this is just a suggestion but could you please add rating to episodes too. Let people do the rating job. This could give insights about whether the show will get better in future or worsen. And also which episode to look forward to in that perticular series. I currently use IMDb for the same but I am sure in mal did it, it would be 100x better.
Dec 10, 2021 4:13 PM

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The category I've always dreamed of.. "favorite OP/ED".
Dec 14, 2021 4:15 AM
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Really preferred columns instead of rows.
Manga and Light Novels absolutely need to be separate categories.
A category for anime movies would be nice too.
I'm not super high on Favorite OP/ED and Favorite Visual Novel. Maybe OP/ED since it does fit the theme of the site but for VNs you have VNDB.org so if you really cared about that then just link your VNDB profile in the "Also Available At" part of your MAL profile.
Dec 14, 2021 12:33 PM
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Atharva04 said:
Guys this is just a suggestion but could you please add rating to episodes too. Let people do the rating job. This could give insights about whether the show will get better in future or worsen. And also which episode to look forward to in that perticular series. I currently use IMDb for the same but I am sure in mal did it, it would be 100x better.


Al ready possible within the forum discussions per episode. You can rate from 1 to 5.
Dec 25, 2021 2:17 PM
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I think separating out Manga and Light Novels into separate categories in the most obvious and needed change. I makes little sense having different formats of the same series categorised as the same thing and its annoying as hell trying to search a manga or LN as the same title appears twice and it can be difficult to tell which one is the one you're looking for on some devices.

As far as completely new categories go I'd say OP/EDs makes the most sense.

Ultimately, I suggest separating manga and LNs to created the fifth category, making OP/EDs the sixth category whenever is convenient, and then monitoring how people react to OP/EDs to determine whether it's worth splitting and making OPs and EDs spearate. I doubt it would be worth doing that by having a combined category first will give people a chance to play about with it and see how it works for them.
The criteria I use when rating shows is on my profile.
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i think having a lot of favorites categories has more pros than cons. here are some which i think can make nice impressions of your taste

1.anime
2.manga
3.character
4.OP/ED
5.sound score/sound design
6.animators
7.mangakas
8.directors
9.studio
10.voice actors

Jan 7, 2022 5:52 AM
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Kineta said:

Now since this is a suggestion thread:
I would like to hear your suggestions for what kind of favorite categories you might want. To get you started, two long-requested categories are Studios and OP/EDs. I saw a Tweet requesting favorite episodes. What's in your mind?


I would love to have favorite OST as well + I would separate main and supporting characters. Fav episodes are very interesting idea.
Jan 17, 2022 11:39 PM
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Favorite openings and endings two separate categories
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