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Dec 1, 2021 8:53 PM
#1
Queen robbed the germa!! @Ayu_01 yeah noticed that, and did you read SBS of vol 101. Oda literally said ushimaru is not Zoro's dad!! |
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Dec 1, 2021 9:41 PM
#2
Chapter was okay the spoilers by korean guy made it seem ass and full summary by Redon made it seem very nice.But it was in between chapter.3.5-5/5 I think Q is almost done or completey done here.A 330 M guy mid diffing a 1.3 B commander with just a bit powerup is the most asspull. Sanji looks cleaner than Z and L. The fight was mid according to me with some great panels btu i think Oda waas not on his best this chapter,last chapter he gave a reallly nice sequence of fight with very good art. But it could just be me as being a sanji fan i was expecting a bit more but lets wait @Volkur last chap was 92% rated as 5 ig its the third highest rated chapter in wano |
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Dec 1, 2021 10:14 PM
#3
VolKur said: Queen robbed the germa!! @Ayu_01 yeah noticed that, and did you read SBS of vol 101. Oda literally said ushimaru is not Zoro's dad!! Bro the amt of delusion some fans still have and keep insisting he must be zoros granddad or some shit lmao Look at my comment to fmma Holy shit zoro fans are genuinely braindead |
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime. Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others |
Dec 1, 2021 10:20 PM
#4
Mei-o_Scarlett said: VolKur said: Queen robbed the germa!! @Ayu_01 yeah noticed that, and did you read SBS of vol 101. Oda literally said ushimaru is not Zoro's dad!! Bro the amt of delusion some fans still have and keep insisting he must be zoros granddad or some shit lmao Look at my comment to fmma Holy shit zoro fans are genuinely braindead Yeah, I think oda don't want to rush Zoro's past, and he will explain it properly after end of Wano War or we will never might know what Zoro's true bloodline/past is?! Here's a theory roaming around Reddit and it really make sense. "Ushimaru/Ryuma is not related to Zoro by blood, but Zoro highly resembles him because Zoro somehow has his "Inherited Will." (If I were to take a guess, it's because Zoro made the promise with Kuina, which is carried through Wado Ichimonji, a Shimotsuki family sword.) Sort of how so many people comment on Luffy reminding them of Roger despite the two of them not being related." Zoro fans are definitely braindead XD |
Dec 1, 2021 10:54 PM
#5
VolKur said: Mei-o_Scarlett said: VolKur said: Queen robbed the germa!! @Ayu_01 yeah noticed that, and did you read SBS of vol 101. Oda literally said ushimaru is not Zoro's dad!! Bro the amt of delusion some fans still have and keep insisting he must be zoros granddad or some shit lmao Look at my comment to fmma Holy shit zoro fans are genuinely braindead Yeah, I think oda don't want to rush Zoro's past, and he will explain it properly after end of Wano War or we will never might know what Zoro's true bloodline/past is?! Here's a theory roaming around Reddit and it really make sense. "Ushimaru/Ryuma is not related to Zoro by blood, but Zoro highly resembles him because Zoro somehow has his "Inherited Will." (If I were to take a guess, it's because Zoro made the promise with Kuina, which is carried through Wado Ichimonji, a Shimotsuki family sword.) Sort of how so many people comment on Luffy reminding them of Roger despite the two of them not being related." Zoro fans are definitely braindead XD U can tell which fans don't actually read op when u bring up that Luffy Roger argument And theyre like bbbbut Roger doesn't look like Luffy even tho before wano Roger legit looked like Luffy. It's like these ppl only started reading after wano started for zoro arc |
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Dec 2, 2021 3:24 AM
#6
Was waiting for the confirmation that Sanji wasn't the one who hurt Osome. Queen's abilities are CRAZY, like didn't expect this at all. Have mixed feelings on it, tho. It comes outta nowhere in a way(Queen: Lmao I was just baiting you bro, but it also makes sense at the same time. What I like the most about the situation is that Sanji can basically surpass his family in a direct confrontation. Loved his demonstration of speed, that's arguably the fastest Straw Hat for ya Disclaimer: It's basically who's the fastest runner From top to bottom Brook Sanji Luffy Chopper Zoro Usopp Nami Robin Franky No way Queen is down. Even Katakuri who's probably not quite as durable took way more hits. Then again, prolly not an ideal comparison since I put arc boss vs Nr.3 or 4 if you take Big Mom into account in this context. @Mei-o_Scarlett Roger's character design went through years of retconning I mean art style change lmao. What baffles me more how he came up with the Jolly Roger when he was young... But yeah, already brought up the spiritual successor idea regarding Zoro. |
FMmatronDec 3, 2021 10:29 AM
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Dec 3, 2021 12:29 AM
#7
Sanji got a nice power boost, highly doubt Queen is defeated thou. |
Dec 3, 2021 12:34 AM
#8
This chapter was fire hot cool. I hope Queen is not out of the picture yet. I mean it looked like he did not take too much damage at all. I hope the fight with Sanji and Queen continues because it cannot be that easy. Even if it was, it has to be satisfying. Maybe I am putting too many high standards? |
Dec 3, 2021 12:45 AM
#9
Dec 3, 2021 12:56 AM
#10
Short chapter and a break next week. Sad way for Queen to retire out of the game. 7/10 for the chapter. |
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Dec 3, 2021 1:13 AM
#11
The cover page of Usopp shooting prize during a festival was wholesome and kind of gave me some Yasopp vibes the way he was lying there and drinking tea Also glad that it wasn't Sanji who hurt Osome after all as his character would never do such a think ;__; Now Sanji fused his exoskeleton protection with Armament Haki The color spread looked so epic |
Dec 3, 2021 1:14 AM
#12
Dec 3, 2021 1:40 AM
#13
Intense fight. Well, that's an effective kick you did there Sanji. |
Dec 3, 2021 1:53 AM
#14
Looks like Sanji finished off this one, but it's too good to be true. I loved the upgrade to Diable Jambe man, but then again, the fact that Sanji wasn't the one who hit the lady kinda takes away from the whole thing. |
Dec 3, 2021 1:58 AM
#15
8\10 chapter in my books, and points were deducted for being short. Queen hitting the girl using stolen Germa tech and not Sanji unconsciously hitting her is exactly what i wanted- it would be unlike Oda or Sanji if under any circumstance Sanji hit a woman. Sanji powers feel a bit ass-pull but definitely not as bad as some people claim or how ass-pull some other Anime gives their characters, there was enough setup and foreshadowing for all of them. |
Dec 3, 2021 3:39 AM
#16
@Fmmatron @Volkur Oda art has been down way bad this chapter but have you seen the colour panel that. makes it top tier .i feel oda art subjected to coloured now.like since he has to cram too much thatswhy his art comes out shabby but in coloured it looks on othre level. 3/5 if q is defeated 4/5 if Q is not defeated. OP main problem this arc is it is not hitting emotionally even this stuff meant to be emotional that he is facing germa together couldnt hit me. Hope next chaps are. good we have a long break ahead |
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Dec 3, 2021 3:55 AM
#17
Can't believe it, Sanji actually managed to take down someone with a bounty that big Strawhats really became a powerhouse specially during Wano. Queen's secret Germa abilities make sence since that bounty must represent power and while only being in dinosaur form I never felt the full potential and power that Queen holds, only after these abiliies started coming I finaly realised that. Hopefully Zoro vs King will be a little more exciting than this, because that fight really has bigger hype built up than this for sure |
Dec 3, 2021 4:07 AM
#18
Ayu_01 said: @Fmmatron @Volkur Oda art has been down way bad this chapter but have you seen the colour panel that. makes it top tier .i feel oda art subjected to coloured now.like since he has to cram too much thatswhy his art comes out shabby but in coloured it looks on othre level. 3/5 if q is defeated 4/5 if Q is not defeated. OP main problem this arc is it is not hitting emotionally even this stuff meant to be emotional that he is facing germa together couldnt hit me. Hope next chaps are. good we have a long break ahead Nope, I don't think oda art was bad in this chapter. It's just that last chapter was better than this chapter in every aspect, even art work. And as far as art goes Last chapter was one of the best chapter of Series in department of artwork. Colour spread is obviously amazing, and 99% chances are that Queen is not defeated yet. If you talk about emotions, I don't think wano have problems in stuff related to emotions. And Sanji is not facing germa, ....opponent is queen with germa power. So theirs a big difference in that part. The problem here is that, chapter is short and everything looks incomplete, the battle, the emotion, even powerup look incomplete. Even I voted 4/5 this chapter. Wait for next chapter or Remaining fight then read this chapter and next sanji chapter together, Then you will feel what you want to feel right now!! |
Dec 3, 2021 4:10 AM
#19
Ayu_01 said: @Fmmatron @Volkur Oda art has been down way bad this chapter but have you seen the colour panel that. makes it top tier .i feel oda art subjected to coloured now.like since he has to cram too much thatswhy his art comes out shabby but in coloured it looks on othre level. 3/5 if q is defeated 4/5 if Q is not defeated. OP main problem this arc is it is not hitting emotionally even this stuff meant to be emotional that he is facing germa together couldnt hit me. Hope next chaps are. good we have a long break ahead Agree with Volkur. Art seems fine to me. Actually pretty good. If you need a reference look at the Jabra shot from chapter 415. just admit that you're biased against Sanji Maybe you should take a break 🤨🙄 no front bre 😚 |
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Dec 3, 2021 7:17 AM
#20
These chapters really put Sanji in a negative light. Everyone else is putting everything on the line to help Luffy. Even characters that aren't straw hats are forcing themselves for his sake. Sanji not actually hitting the girl is only more proof his selfishness puts him behind the other Straw Hats. I would even put Nami above him at this point. Question. If Zoro has conqueror's haki, doesn't that mean Sanji should have it too? How can they still be rivals if Zoro is on completely different level now? (Because Zoro can actively use conquerors haki) Does that mean that Mihawk has conqueror's haki too? I mean, how else could he be Shanks rival? Plus I can't imagine the strongest swordsman in the world not having the most basic requirement for absolute power in this manga. |
Dec 3, 2021 7:30 AM
#21
More of queen vs sanji, I don't think queen is defeated yet, it's relieving to know that it wasn't sanji who hurt osome or owner zeff would cut his manhood xD |
Dec 3, 2021 7:43 AM
#22
FMmatron said: Ayu_01 said: @Fmmatron @Volkur Oda art has been down way bad this chapter but have you seen the colour panel that. makes it top tier .i feel oda art subjected to coloured now.like since he has to cram too much thatswhy his art comes out shabby but in coloured it looks on othre level. 3/5 if q is defeated 4/5 if Q is not defeated. OP main problem this arc is it is not hitting emotionally even this stuff meant to be emotional that he is facing germa together couldnt hit me. Hope next chaps are. good we have a long break ahead Agree with Volkur. Art seems fine to me. Actually pretty good. If you need a reference look at the Jabra shot from chapter 415. just admit that you're biased against Sanji Maybe you should take a break 🤨🙄 no front bre 😚 What you saying lmao Sanji is my second favourite character by huge margin,you can say i am biased for Sanji lol. Lmao i am too addicted to OP at this time though the addiction was far high at rooftop where i used to check spoiler everytime and participate in debate.But yeah you are right i am unable to enjoy Op to full extent like this ,i will take a break after the chap 1036,and will return when there would be a huge chapter like 1010 or 1023 type. But seriously you are giving Oda too much credit for art this chapter ,I compared it with ARLONG PARK sanji action and that was far better.1033 art >>1034.Lmao i can verdict this is the top 5 worst chapter in art quality in wano atleast or i guess tcb shading made it idk. |
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Dec 3, 2021 7:47 AM
#23
Dec 3, 2021 7:53 AM
#24
What do you guys think anyway is the fight over or there is still something left. The ending was not satisfactory but the last shot was clean and deadly. we got zero MADS lore drop but on the other Queen talked about his relation with Germa.Idk it feels he should do more but i dont want to keep my hopes too high. WSW vs Jinbei was a nice chapter and i thought he would def get up but he didnt rise up lmao a 546 M guy dropped liked that,this chapter too feels the same,Some Wsw action like Queen some reveal about their enemy ,Sanji COA and JInbei full body haki,both being angry at being compared to and finally both delievering a lethal shot at end . The fight should be over but my heart wants more i had too high exp for Queen ,Sanji mid diff a 1.32 B doesnt seem too right but unlike others i will say this is Sanji best showing and character plot .He has forever cemented top 2 strawhat place for me. @Fmmatron @Volkur @Mei-o_Scarlett your thoughts on will fight continuation and Jinbei comparision |
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Dec 3, 2021 8:06 AM
#25
MFDOOMED said: These chapters really put Sanji in a negative light. Everyone else is putting everything on the line to help Luffy. Even characters that aren't straw hats are forcing themselves for his sake. Sanji not actually hitting the girl is only more proof his selfishness puts him behind the other Straw Hats. I would even put Nami above him at this point. Question. If Zoro has conqueror's haki, doesn't that mean Sanji should have it too? How can they still be rivals if Zoro is on completely different level now? (Because Zoro can actively use conquerors haki) Does that mean that Mihawk has conqueror's haki too? I mean, how else could he be Shanks rival? Plus I can't imagine the strongest swordsman in the world not having the most basic requirement for absolute power in this manga. About 10 chapters ago I also expected Sanji to go against his usual way for Luffy. But I had his Raid Suit in mind. As for Sanji and Haoshoku. I don't think so, at least he didn't show signs of it. He also doesn't really need it. Other top people like the admirals don't seem to have it either. But I think in Mihawk's case it would make sense. Ayu_01 said: FMmatron said: Ayu_01 said: @Fmmatron @Volkur Oda art has been down way bad this chapter but have you seen the colour panel that. makes it top tier .i feel oda art subjected to coloured now.like since he has to cram too much thatswhy his art comes out shabby but in coloured it looks on othre level. 3/5 if q is defeated 4/5 if Q is not defeated. OP main problem this arc is it is not hitting emotionally even this stuff meant to be emotional that he is facing germa together couldnt hit me. Hope next chaps are. good we have a long break ahead Agree with Volkur. Art seems fine to me. Actually pretty good. If you need a reference look at the Jabra shot from chapter 415. just admit that you're biased against Sanji Maybe you should take a break 🤨🙄 no front bre 😚 What you saying lmao Sanji is my second favourite character by huge margin,you can say i am biased for Sanji lol. Lmao i am too addicted to OP at this time though the addiction was far high at rooftop where i used to check spoiler everytime and participate in debate.But yeah you are right i am unable to enjoy Op to full extent like this ,i will take a break after the chap 1036,and will return when there would be a huge chapter like 1010 or 1023 type. But seriously you are giving Oda too much credit for art this chapter ,I compared it with ARLONG PARK sanji action and that was far better.1033 art >>1034.Lmao i can verdict this is the top 5 worst chapter in art quality in wano atleast or i guess tcb shading made it idk. But the art was fine/good as usual 😅 Or maybe my eyes are bad or I didn't see all that much on the phone. Fight will continue. |
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Dec 3, 2021 9:26 AM
#26
huh, I didn't know Queen also a mechanic, to think that he could modify just like Germa. at this point Sanji becomes a Superman, lol |
Dec 3, 2021 10:47 AM
#27
Oda had me hyped for Zoro vs King, but can happily settle for Sanji vs Queen. |
Dec 3, 2021 12:02 PM
#28
Sanji's resolve is something to be admired. He's always been a good character but now he is finally coming to terms with his nature, past and future while also realizing that he must be determined if he wants to be a worthy member of the crew that has the future Pirate King as its Captain. |
Dec 3, 2021 2:43 PM
#29
Poor Osome, it must have been SUUUUPEEER scary for her, Queen and Sanji appearing out of nowhere from her point of view. 😆 Anyway another fuego chapter per usual. 🔥🔥🔥 |
Dec 3, 2021 7:05 PM
#30
Sanyo vs Queen is not as good as Zoro vs king but this still satisfied with this fight. I don't think queen is down for good!! |
Dec 3, 2021 8:19 PM
#31
So we still have Sanji with his no-hitting-women policy. It was going to be an interesting development if it was true, but hey, we got bamboozled. Aside from that I really liked the paneling when he was attacking, and surprise surprise, Sanji finally mentioned that he uses armament Haki. I can´t believe some people didn´t think he would. |
Dec 3, 2021 8:40 PM
#32
Queen out here replicating Germa techniques, but it was ultimately no match for Sanji's chivalry lol. Nice to see Queen get his ass kicked, but there's no knowing for sure just yet if he's officially down. |
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Dec 4, 2021 1:30 PM
#33
with Queen weird snake mechanism before, I get it that Oda kinda justified him as the ultimate scientist-turned-cyborg so far in the series, not only a walking gadget; and now it's kinda justified with everything Germa on his sleeve, not to mention the ancient zoan df. But then what baffles me, why did Kaido not also make reliance/advantage on this Queen's science capability to replicate or make another form of a strong up army? well, let's say maybe not with whole germa's stuff, as maybe it needs a very specific delicate touch, but at least another cyborg/mecha squad, maybe. |
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Dec 5, 2021 11:13 AM
#34
Sanji fans today we feast! Queen you sneaky SOB, so Sanji never did hit her, Queen did and for pathetic reasons. Sanji now able to up the heat and fries himself a dinosaur. |
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Dec 5, 2021 11:19 AM
#35
Dec 5, 2021 2:30 PM
#36
JokerVentura said: Sanji fans today we feast! Queen you sneaky SOB, so Sanji never did hit her, Queen did and for pathetic reasons. Sanji now able to up the heat and fries himself a dinosaur. You know now that you mention it, kinda brings me back to when Zoro and Sanji were hunting dinosaurs on Little Garden. |
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Dec 6, 2021 9:28 AM
#37
Dec 6, 2021 4:35 PM
#38
It's too bad that now it's confirmed that it wasn't Sanji who hit the woman. Now the scene of his resolution to break the raid suit doesn't sound as cool. And the way how he asked Zoro to kill him if he ends up not sane after the battle sounds just silly now, because it turned out to be just a misunderstanding, and there was no risk of Sanji becoming a threat to begin with. Perhaps Sanji's conjecture that he would end up losing his emotions if he kept using the raid suit was correct, but now it will stay forever as a mystery whether or not it would be possible for Sanji to become even stronger using the raid suit more times without it affecting his emotions at all. And the worst part is that now there's no reason for Sanji to want to be turned back to normal anymore, and he will probably stay for the rest of the story with this cheap power-up that he got by having his body modified through technology, instead of getting it through power of will or hard work. Before the confirmation that he didn't hit the woman, there was still hope that Oda would find a way to make Sanji lose his power-up because it would be a necessary sacrifice in order make him regain his human feelings, and Oda could easily do it by using as excuse that the effects of the raid suit don't last forever, so Sanji's body would go back to normal after some time. But now the chance of it happening is very small, considering how now from an utilitarian perspective Sanji will only lose by going back to normal. This chapter even made it clear with Sanji's monologue that he is perceiving the power-up as a good thing, and thanks to it he was able to develop an "Ifrit Jamble". But, with all that said, I can't deny that it's in fact nice to see Sanji more powerful, the way how he is kicking Queen looks very cool, and I'm sure it will look amazing animated. I wonder what colour his Ifrit Jamble will have. @MFDOOMED How can not hitting the girl be a proof of selfishness? Do you even understand the meaning of what you wrote there? He had absolutely no reason to hit the girl there, and he would have been a very selfish trash of human being if he had hit the girl just because she was in his way. The only way it would have made sense to happen was if he had done it unconsciously, as Sanji thought was the case until this chapter, and there's no way it could be seen as a development for him, or as "putting everything on the line to help Luffy". And if you just didn't express yourself well and you actually meant to refer to how Sanji rejected the possibility of becoming stronger by using the raid suit more times, for fear that it would make him lose his emotions to the point of ending up beginning not to perceive the possibility of hitting a girl as a bad thing, you're still very wrong, and there's nothing selfish in Sanji's choice; Sanji would be extremely selfish if he wanted to become stronger at the cost of becoming a heartless scum like his brothers, and he really wouldn't be as useful to Luffy by becoming stronger at such cost. You're talking about Luffy as if he were some communist dictator, who would see it as a positive thing to have cold blooded subordinates who were capable of doing any dirty work for his sake, and you're wrong in thinking like that. Don't you remember how, when Judge meant to make a list of Sanji's negative points, Luffy heard it and said that Judge was actually listing Sanji's positive points? It wasn't for Sanji's strength that Luffy invited him to join the crew, but because of his character. It's Sanji's good heart that makes him so important for the crew, and he wouldn't be as useful to Luffy if he lost it. If Sanji becomes a heartless fighting machine then he will become corruptible and may end up betraying Luffy at some point, for example, besides not acting to save the lives of innocent people when he sees some kind of injustice happening, and this is not the kind of crewmate that Luffy wants. Even if there was the warranty that Sanji would become a heartless fighting machine while staying completely loyal to Luffy, Sanji still wouldn't be as useful because he wouldn't know what's the right thing to be done in each situation without receiving Luffy's orders. Now, you may argue that Sanji was selfish for screaming asking Nico Robin to help him just because he didn't want to break his policy by defeating that spider giant woman on his own. This may be seen as a sign of selfishness because he put one of his comrades in danger just because of his policy of not hitting women. While I do acknowledge that it may have been somehow a selfish thing, I still belive that Sanji is better staying like he is, not hitting women, since it is part of his gentlemanliness, which makes him especially interesting as a character. But in any case, supposing that this is in fact a problem of his, it would only make sense for this problem to be fixed if Sanji naturally reached the conclusion that he should make some exceptions in his policy, when he had to hit a woman not to save his own life, but as an important means of assuring the safety of one of his comrades, for example. It's completely pointless if Sanji abandons the policy if he does it as a result of having his emotions manipulated through technology to turn into a heartless soldier; It makes no sense to see this as a positive development for Sanji, and I've already explained why. |
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Dec 6, 2021 6:48 PM
#39
Nice to see Sanji finally get what I can only hope is going to be his new ultimate move, I'm honestly surprised it took this long for him to get a new one even with how casually he'd been using Diable Jambe since after the timeskip. I wonder if Zoro is going to beyond Ashura.... King and Queen have been pretty impressive since their 1 vs 1 fights started, almost makes up for how lackluster they seemed beforehand. I'm not sure if it's just plot convivence or not but the gap between Emperor and First Commander doesn't seem as absurdly massive as it did before. Not that I mind, I've always thought that one of the biggest flaws since the timeskip has been the consistently massive gaps between the captains of their crews and their strongest subordinates. |
Dec 7, 2021 6:38 AM
#40
And finally Sanji overcomes his family through fighting Queen. Loved all his new attacks! |
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Dec 7, 2021 2:22 PM
#41
@Mummykun How can not hitting the girl be a proof of selfishness? Do you even understand the meaning of what you wrote there? He had absolutely no reason to hit the girl there, and he would have been a very selfish trash of human being if he had hit the girl just because she was in his way. The only way it would have made sense to happen was if he had done it unconsciously, as Sanji thought was the case until this chapter, and there's no way it could be seen as a development for him, or as "putting everything on the line to help Luffy". And if you just didn't express yourself well and you actually meant to refer to how Sanji rejected the possibility of becoming stronger by using the raid suit more times, for fear that it would make him lose his emotions to the point of ending up beginning not to perceive the possibility of hitting a girl as a bad thing, you're still very wrong, and there's nothing selfish in Sanji's choice; Sanji would be extremely selfish if he wanted to become stronger at the cost of becoming a heartless scum like his brothers, and he really wouldn't be as useful to Luffy by becoming stronger at such cost. You're talking about Luffy as if he were some communist dictator, who would see it as a positive thing to have cold blooded subordinates who were capable of doing any dirty work for his sake, and you're wrong in thinking like that. Don't you remember how, when Judge meant to make a list of Sanji's negative points, Luffy heard it and said that Judge was actually listing Sanji's positive points? It wasn't for Sanji's strength that Luffy invited him to join the crew, but because of his character. It's Sanji's good heart that makes him so important for the crew, and he wouldn't be as useful to Luffy if he lost it. If Sanji becomes a heartless fighting machine then he will become corruptible and may end up betraying Luffy at some point, for example, besides not acting to save the lives of innocent people when he sees some kind of injustice happening, and this is not the kind of crewmate that Luffy wants. Even if there was the warranty that Sanji would become a heartless fighting machine while staying completely loyal to Luffy, Sanji still wouldn't be as useful because he wouldn't know what's the right thing to be done in each situation without receiving Luffy's orders. Now, you may argue that Sanji was selfish for screaming asking Nico Robin to help him just because he didn't want to break his policy by defeating that spider giant woman on his own. This may be seen as a sign of selfishness because he put one of his comrades in danger just because of his policy of not hitting women. While I do acknowledge that it may have been somehow a selfish thing, I still belive that Sanji is better staying like he is, not hitting women, since it is part of his gentlemanliness, which makes him especially interesting as a character. But in any case, supposing that this is in fact a problem of his, it would only make sense for this problem to be fixed if Sanji naturally reached the conclusion that he should make some exceptions in his policy, when he had to hit a woman not to save his own life, but as an important means of assuring the safety of one of his comrades, for example. It's completely pointless if Sanji abandons the policy if he does it as a result of having his emotions manipulated through technology to turn into a heartless soldier; It makes no sense to see this as a positive development for Sanji, and I've already explained why.[/quote] Bro, my love of One Piece doesn't blind me to the way the world (any world) works. If we assume that the vast majority of Pirates in One Piece are men, which is highly likely, what does that say about Big Mom being one of the strongest pirates in the world? If Oda wasn't Oda, somebody would have been seriously hurt or killed by Sanji's ridiculous rule. And make no mistake, it is a ridiculous rule. Tashigi has a valid reason to be upset that Zoro won't fight her at full power. The same Zoro who almost died just to get Mihawk to take him seriously even a little bit. In a world of fighters, women deserve respect on the battlefield the same as men. What Sanji does isn't chivalry. It's a blatant form of disrespect. I accept Sanji's stupidity because Oda gives him no real consequences for his actions and because for the most part, it doesn't negatively affect the story. In Wano, Sanji, the guy who uses his powers to peep on naked women, gave up his greatest chance at a powerup because of a possibility. A possibility. When the Straw Hat crew is literally made up of people that make the impossible possible, time and again. Why should anyone accept that Sanji would actually lose control of himself? It doesn't make sense in the world of One Piece, and it makes even less sense for Sanji, arguably the most disciplined member of the crew. Which is why IMO, Oda walked back the woman being attacked. Also IMO, Oda had no way forward with a Sanji that attacks women. He couldn't figure out what to do next with a Sanji that broke his most important rule. As to your allegations.... Selfishness- Chopper -> poisoned himself to increase Luffy's chances of winning this War Nami -> got over her feelings and got a crazy powerup by making the cloud her friend. Also literally took a blow that should have killed her without plot armor Ussop -> Doing everything he can to survive and help Luffy Zoro -> Literally putting his life on the line to help Luffy. If his haki runs out, he could die Brook -> Was going to fight CP0 agents, protecting Robin and doing his very best Luffy -> Fighting Fucking Kaido, the strongest beast in the world after losing multiple times Franky -> Oda did him dirty, his fight was a waste of time, but still, Franky's going all out to give Luffy a chance Robin -> Doing whatever it takes to help Luffy and the crew Jinbei -> Just kind of there but helped out a little bit on the island Sanji only fought full power against King. He will literally give his life for Luffy without a second thought, but unless it actually helps him, Sanji won't even use all of his power in his designated fight. If you agree with Sanji's decision, go ahead and do that. But I strongly disagree, and if we go by how Oda switched up from last chapters to this one, the manga itself agrees that Sanji is a selfish idiot. Lastly, why are you talking about communism? I don't bring up political ideals I disagree with to make a point because it is reductive and base. Why would you even say that about communism? As to Luffy, if Oda had kept the old story thread with Sanji flipping out, Luffy would have brought Sanji back to his senses. Because that's what Luffy does. At that time, if Sanji destroyed the raid canister, I would have been all in and happy. Because that would be great writing IMO. But Sanji saying, boohoo I hate my family and I just might hurt someone maybe. So let me destroy my proof that I will do anything for my captain because I'm a selfish prick who only does things my way; is poor storytelling IMO. It makes Sanji look piss poor. If you love Sanji for being that guy, go ahead. But there is a reason people have issues with Sanji as a character. Btw Luffy is my favorite character. My no 2 character is Franky, but Oda isn't giving him any love atm. Its the rookie 9 from Naruto Shippuden all over again. |
Dec 8, 2021 9:16 AM
#42
Nice battle. So Queen deceived Sanji? What a trickster! |
Dec 11, 2021 6:05 PM
#43
Dec 13, 2021 1:42 PM
#44
This chapter gave me once again that odd feeling that things are going a bit too well so far, and this is usually when everything falls apart into despair in quite a few arcs in the past, in fact lol I can't help but think something fucked will go down soon enough. Unless this is the first time Oda wants to play it straight, which would be a unique change of pace in some regards too (nice timing anyway, considering the culmination of the hundreds of chapters going into full effect at last). Another cool chapter. |
Dec 20, 2021 2:35 AM
#45
Ah, so that's how it is... The scumbag Queen was the one who hit that woman, I thought Sanji was losing his morality and personality when he wore his raid suit which is why I thought due to the circumstances, he was the one who hit her, turns out it's just the fat, ol' Queen all along... Nice knowing that Sanji hasn't unconsciously broken his promise, but well- I digress... It's a shame he destroyed his raid suit back then knowing that it poses no psychological effect on him, but even if he kept it around, Sanji has always been known as the kickass Blackfoot Sanji nickname so changing his 'image' would be pretty odd all these years later. That is not a problem in the slightest though, after realizing of his own body's immense potential, he went all out with his [Ifrit Jambe] Imagine the flame so hot, it's capable of Blinding Queen and completely threw that bag of flesh miles out, that was epic! Despite all the cool shit happening in this chapter, I do feel that Queen's (seemingly)defeat came a little too rushed in a way, he was just beginning to utilize the Germa ability that he has implemented into his own cyborg body, but all that is for nought when Sanji one-kicked him away to kingdom come. Rather strange... I wonder if Queen will rise up in the next chapter or not. Seems like Zoro is up next with his own powerup. |
Jan 1, 2022 11:48 AM
#46
Damn Queen stole all the Germa moves lol. Sanji is giving a good whooping to Queen..for now that is :p |
Mar 24, 2022 4:16 AM
#47
Apr 20, 2022 5:03 PM
#48
Good chapter. Still don't know how I feel about Sanji getting a sturdy exoskeleton, enhanced strength, and super speed from Germa. But I guess it's a necessary power up for this arc. Glad to hear Sanji didn't hurt a woman!! |
Nov 15, 2022 4:58 PM
#49
Sanji casually turning Queen into a beaf. Dude's just straight up talking french only. |
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