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IBO4Life said: I thought it was a great episode but I have a question: how did Aisha know that Kennel Master was actually her big bro? Ln readers probably know this. i'm not a LN reader but I can think that Eris did a poor job to cover up his name. We can see her say all the time "Rud-... Kennel Master" so Aisha can make two and two together. I also read that Aisha saw Rudeus doing a chant-less incantation when he rescued her from the guards and that being too rare + she already knows Rudy can pull it out could be the better answer. |
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IBO4Life said: I thought it was a great episode but I have a question: how did Aisha know that Kennel Master was actually her big bro? Ln readers probably know this. There are multiple clues: - Rudy looks almost like Paul, she could recognized him at the post office that could be the real reason she trailed him. - Roxy told everyone at the castle about his apprentice who's still a kid but can use chantless magic. Aisha heard the stories while she was working there. And Rudy used his magic in the alley to get away from the soldiers. - They were talking in their room while Aisha could've pretended to be asleep. - Eris and Zanoba calls him Rudeus while she's there. |
Tylaen said: I don't think I've hated an entire episode outright since C1. Congrats. Ok, I've been wondering for a while If you hate this series so much, why do you keep forcing yourself to watch it? At this point, you may as well just stop watching. And telling me that thats a disingenuous argument when all you've been doing is saying that everyone's disagreement with you is disingenous isn't gonna cut it here. All you've done is trash the series and the people that like it, so at this point, all I see is a whiny puritan that has no business watching the show if all your gonna do is attack people for not agreeing with your opinion. Grow up and move on from the series you obviously hate already. |
IBO4Life said: I thought it was a great episode but I have a question: how did Aisha know that Kennel Master was actually her big bro? Ln readers probably know this. Yeah many tells were shown throughout these 2 episodes that his real identity was not well hidden at all, plus Aisha showed up too when Zanoba was manhandling Pax and he was asking him to let go of Rudeus so that's another way of her confirming it there. Rudeus was way inside so he wouldn't have seen her showing up, upstairs. But even not counting that, the signs were definitely too obvious for a genius like her to put together.  |
| Another fantastic episode, the dissection of the Roxy figurine was peak otaku and so funny, especially given how effortlessly it was introduced into a high fantasy story. Liliya honours her debt and now Aisha understands too. The legend grows ;-) |
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AsuraDestructor said: Sorry that you're taking me trashing the series personally. I sincerely hope you get over yourself one day and stop taking attacks on your favorite anime series personally.Tylaen said: I don't think I've hated an entire episode outright since C1. Congrats. Ok, I've been wondering for a while If you hate this series so much, why do you keep forcing yourself to watch it? At this point, you may as well just stop watching. And telling me that thats a disingenuous argument when all you've been doing is saying that everyone's disagreement with you is disingenous isn't gonna cut it here. All you've done is trash the series and the people that like it, so at this point, all I see is a whiny puritan that has no business watching the show if all your gonna do is attack people for not agreeing with your opinion. Grow up and move on from the series you obviously hate already. |
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Tylaen said: AsuraDestructor said: Sorry that you're taking me trashing the series personally. I sincerely hope you get over yourself one day and stop taking attacks on your favorite anime series personally.Ok, I've been wondering for a while If you hate this series so much, why do you keep forcing yourself to watch it? At this point, you may as well just stop watching. And telling me that thats a disingenuous argument when all you've been doing is saying that everyone's disagreement with you is disingenous isn't gonna cut it here. All you've done is trash the series and the people that like it, so at this point, all I see is a whiny puritan that has no business watching the show if all your gonna do is attack people for not agreeing with your opinion. Grow up and move on from the series you obviously hate already. I ain't taking it personally, so if you think that, then all I can do is find you hysterical, and continue to prove the point I made. And I'll to apologize that you are taking a series you don't like personally, and I hope you someday learn to not take people who disagree with you personally. See how it will just go in a circle? Quit pretending to be the more Mature one. it won't work. |
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AsuraDestructor said: You're projecting a lot of qualities onto me in order to get a foot in. Pretending to be mature? Saying I said others are being "disingenuous"? At most, I told Dapdap last week that he was making excuses! Never disingenuous, a word basically standing in for "trolling", a thing I've not accused anyone of. I sincerely believe that people I argue with believe in what they say. That doesn't mean I consider their points somehow greater for their sincerity. See how it will just go in a circle? Quit pretending to be the more Mature one. it won't work. As for circles, I'm willing to mud-wrestle you if I have to. Alas, I fear we'd be doing so over nothing but your fairly butthurt response to a minor comment I made, pretending to care about my motivation and reiterating a point a lot of people have said to me. He does it specifically for people like you to ask him, attention seeking. Just ignore him, he has nothing to say really. I'd actually like for people to stop telling me to "Stop watching". It's fairly tired at this point and not worth addressing.AsuraDestructor said: First I'm calling others disingenuous and now I'm being disingenuous? We're just jumping all over the place with this fanfiction. I'f I'm butthurt, then Tylaen must have a rocket up their ass for being called out for being disingenuous. Could have fooled me. |
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animejas said: IBO4Life said: I thought it was a great episode but I have a question: how did Aisha know that Kennel Master was actually her big bro? Ln readers probably know this. Yeah many tells were shown throughout these 2 episodes that his real identity was not well hidden at all, plus Aisha showed up too when Zanoba was manhandling Pax and he was asking him to let go of Rudeus so that's another way of her confirming it there. Rudeus was way inside so he wouldn't have seen her showing up, upstairs. But even not counting that, the signs were definitely too obvious for a genius like her to put together. I wanna lowkey believe that Aisha knew about Rudeus all this time and was just messing with him til the very end lol. |
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| I'f I'm butthurt, then Tylaen must have a rocket up their ass for being called out for being disingenuous. Could have fooled me. |
RonnieAP said: Awesome episode as usual....one question...how did Lilia have Rudeus's "treasure" with her when she was teleported with just Aisha to Shirone and was trapped in the castle this entire time. I've read the LN, but I don't remember that being explained in the novels either....Or did I miss anything Lilia had the box with her in episode 8 because she wanted to send it to Rudy for his birthday. |
Ryuseishun said: animejas said: Yeah many tells were shown throughout these 2 episodes that his real identity was not well hidden at all, plus Aisha showed up too when Zanoba was manhandling Pax and he was asking him to let go of Rudeus so that's another way of her confirming it there. Rudeus was way inside so he wouldn't have seen her showing up, upstairs. But even not counting that, the signs were definitely too obvious for a genius like her to put together. I wanna lowkey believe that Aisha knew about Rudeus all this time and was just messing with him til the very end lol. She did, but these kind of things did not help the hidden identity case whatsoever. |
animejasNov 28, 2021 11:34 AM
| Well, more than never i praise the manga adaptation of this Aisha's encounter mini-arc. While in the manga the mangaka created a little adventure with lots of focus on Aisha, in the Novel, straightly adapted in the anime, the whole point was to introduce and focus on the three creepy characters. Pax. Zanoba and also Rudeus, because most of Aisha' VA work in these two episodes was about exposing Rudy's degenetarion. That's a bit ridiculous. |
Rob7Nov 28, 2021 11:39 AM
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| Another thing i noticed about anime/novel audience is that most just was waiting for the creepy brothers and not for Aisha. This part of the series was centered in them, while Aisha and her mom was extras, just there to remember us that Rudeus is a degenerate lol. While for ppl who enjoyed the manga, this part was as good as the waited "turning point two". Now i just can believe that even in the middle of the "second turning point" the anime (novel) is also going to spare some moments to Rudeus horny gags. That's how you tell a good story, right? |
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| another great episode!! i missed seeing lilia + aisha is best sister <3 |
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| Great episode! Pax's brother Zanoba kind of reminded me of Petelguese a bit and he was obsessed with the Roxy figure Rudeus made. To become Rudeus's apprentice he even dragged Pax out of bed and then forced him to take Rudeus out of his barrier xD. Lilia is also reunited with Aisha and Rudeus got his special pants back lol. Aisha also wants to join Rudeus on his journey as she doesn't want to serve her brother when she's older aha. It seems she knew that Rudeus was her brother in the end as well and is looking forward to seeing him again. Looking forward to the next episode! |
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| This episode felt a bit silly to be honest. I could do without the otaku doofiness. |
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Okeanix said: What flaws and plot holes?I was dropped this show after Cour 1 but seems some people think this series as "Christ second return on earth" so i will gave this series another chance this week after so many flaws & plot holes & coincidence and pedophile fanservice in Cour 1. What's can go wrong. I'll wait.. |
Ryuseishun said: animejas said: Yeah many tells were shown throughout these 2 episodes that his real identity was not well hidden at all, plus Aisha showed up too when Zanoba was manhandling Pax and he was asking him to let go of Rudeus so that's another way of her confirming it there. Rudeus was way inside so he wouldn't have seen her showing up, upstairs. But even not counting that, the signs were definitely too obvious for a genius like her to put together. I wanna lowkey believe that Aisha knew about Rudeus all this time and was just messing with him til the very end lol. It’s just as you said in the novel. Aisha didn’t see the confrontation between rudeus, zanoba and pax at all in the novel. |
Fd299Nov 28, 2021 12:05 PM
FreezePeach said: Going by episode 8 it made sense for her to have the box but the only reasonable conclusion is she had it in her maid uniform somewhere who knows.I wouldn't call it plot hole exactly, it's not like it is completely impossible for her to have the box. It is still strange and slightly irritating. It's not like box had to be that big and Lilia could be hiding it on her in the first place, easily fixable. Same in the previous episode, Rudy not asking Aisha about Roxy and reason why Lilia is imprisoned doesn't make any sense. He can't really blame Hitogami for it, it was just irredeemably dumb. But, again, strange but not impossible. He did ask Aisha about Roxy though he couldn't do it properly due to hiding his identity, Lilia and Aisha where imprisoned purely as bait for Roxy since they said they knew her, Pax isn't the smartest cookie as evidenced by thinking Roxy would even know about any of it without spreading word As for being trapped I think he was just soo focused on making sure he followed his instructions he wasn't paying much attention to anything else, watch episode 19 he was pretty much ignoring everything apart from the objective and even when trapped didn't look flustered at all, only when he fully realised roxy wasn't anywhere in the castle did he suspect Hitogami. |
barmar said: Interesting how they didn’t quite show Zanoba’s backstory and how he murdered his own brother and wife thinking of them as dolls when he was young. They decided to go with a more comedic/light tone all the way through, good episode nonetheless. I can’t believe we’ve already reached Turning Point 2 though next week can’t come soon enough. Since it was mentioned, it is not spoiler for the anime anymore. In the manga at least they exhibited something about his younger brother.  but what was that about his "wife"? |
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| It felt strange that Aisha didn't catch on despite all the slips. In the end it was actually her who fooled Rudy lol. I like her. |
Rob7 said: barmar said: Interesting how they didn’t quite show Zanoba’s backstory and how he murdered his own brother and wife thinking of them as dolls when he was young. They decided to go with a more comedic/light tone all the way through, good episode nonetheless. I can’t believe we’ve already reached Turning Point 2 though next week can’t come soon enough. Since it was mentioned, it is not spoiler for the anime anymore. In the manga at least they exhibited something about his younger brother. but what was that about his "wife"? He got in a political marriage, thought his wife was annoying and "disassembled" her causing a huge diplomatic incident. One of the reasons why he lost most of his personal guards. |
| They skip so much from the LN that even the manga looks better |
revyHOLiC said: They skip so much from the LN that even the manga looks better Lol, the anime-only audience probably got just like Rudeus after Zanoba's moment. "Wtf is happening here"? - rescuing family what? where? how? what Ruijerd did that Ginger and the guards could not do themselves? |
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| To think that Lilia and Aisha were transported in the middle of a lake. That thought alone is scary enough, I wouldn't want to imagine if that lake was frozen solid on the surface. Well that didn't go how I was imagining it to go. Zanoba is next to Pax the other prince of that kingdom and holy shit the guy is absolutely mental, that actually worked out in Rudy's favor. Here I thought that Pax was going to be a threat, but Zanoba really threw that theory out of the window quickly. If Zanoba was so obsessed with Roxy, I am surprised he didn't kill Pax for making Roxy flee cause of the sexual harassement. I loved the whole bit of Rudy and Zanoba talking about Roxy's figure and the features it has. I swear to god though, when I learned that said figure is actually getting a real life release, RIP my wallet. In the end Lilia and Aisha got saved with Rudy doing fuck all. "I am sorry for calling you a pervert, big brother!" Ha! I knew that Aisha knew all along, after all the secret wasn't very well protected and her playing along with it just proves she is a bright and smart girl. I loved that. Bless Lilia for protecting Rudy's treasure box, this time including a little extra from Sylphie! |
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| Prince Zanoba the Weeb GOAT lol yelled at when Aisha knew who Rudy was lol |
CeddyyBearr said: If Zanoba was so obsessed with Roxy, I am surprised he didn't kill Pax for making Roxy flee cause of the sexual harassement. It's more the figurine and craftsmanship that made him obsessed with Roxy more than anything, a connoisseur of fine arts to the point where he even sold off the few subordinates he had to Pax for the figurine. The figurine concept and breakdown did look really cool there with how multiple layers were there and how much he studied how it worked. He's fine with Roxy but her leaving because of Pax doesn't do much for him at the time, it just makes Pax look bad. But yeah now that he has context with Rudeus being his 'master' and new god in a sense, in hindsight, he might have a different perspective on how he would have dealt with Pax back then. |
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