| I tried this series as it was being released. I was 18-19 at the time, and at first I really liked what it brought it to the table. Good animation, nice introduction to slice of life (I was new to the genre at that time), and a really good, tasteful representation of LGBT+ romance that I found really progressive. Plus some moments were really cute. This all started to change after the Twister scene. To say I was severely uncomfortable would be a heavy understatement. The whole scene seemed rather inappropriate. I let it slide, thinking it was ultimately innocent and played for humor. Sure it was suspicious as hell, but still. What really set me off was the interactions of Lucoa and Shouta. Severely inappropriate, in my eyes. An older woman sexually teasing a boy that's too young to consent even in Japanese law. And it was pretty obvious Shouta was a very confused child that wasn't even fully mentally mature, and could not properly consent. I was disgusted especially at the beach episode. I know for a fact that if the genders were reversed between the two characters, anime fans around the world would be outraged and the series would be cancelled. People have used the argument that Lucoa is unfamiliar with human society so her actions are acceptable, and that argument does not work for me. People also say to skip those parts, and that also isn't very convincing. Why skip 1/4 of a series? I've never had to do that before, because no series has disgusted me this much before. I'm not here to start a fight or insult anyone. Though this has legitimately bothered me for a good while (and almost made me quit anime entirely), including the past several months. I want to see if I'm really judging it too harshly or if it really is "child endangerment and grooming: the anime". I gave it a 1/10, because no amount of quality animation, good parts unrelated to that side plot, or anything could possibly make up for such an appalling act to me. Edit: I’ve decided the series isn’t for me, and I won’t be going back to it. If you’re a fan, I’m glad you can enjoy it. Everyone has their own tastes. |
CyberPsychosisNov 26, 2021 10:29 PM
Dracomouthboi said: I mean I think ur thinking about this too hard bro. Good characters, fight scenes, and cute moments. I mean I just watch cuz the series is funny. I don’t think this show is tryna deal with all this serious stuff It’s really hard to focus on those positive aspects when there’s literally a grown woman grooming a little boy as a side plot. I’m supposed to take such an appalling act as a joke? Or I’m supposed to be attracted to it? Only thing I feel is extreme discomfort. |
| If the anime makes you want to stop watching anime u gotta be careful on what u watch because this is pretty tame compared to other animes. But yeah just don't watch it. |
jjkiscool said: Roxyism said: this anime is pretty tame compared to 80% of anime that come out. If this guy is so sensitive I think he'll just stop watching anime in some time or just stick to his generic battle shonen (even they have some fan service these days)If the anime makes you want to stop watching anime u gotta be careful on what u watch because this is pretty tame compared to other animes. But yeah just don't watch it. I feel like fanserivce has toned down in recent years actually |
jjkiscool said: Roxyism said: this anime is pretty tame compared to 80% of anime that come out. If this guy is so sensitive I think he'll just stop watching anime in some time or just stick to his generic battle shonen (even they have some fan service these days)If the anime makes you want to stop watching anime u gotta be careful on what u watch because this is pretty tame compared to other animes. But yeah just don't watch it. It’s not fanservice that is my problem. It’s the underage character getting harassed by an older character. If you see what I’ve seen you’d notice I’ve seen several series with fanservice. |
TMR98 said: I know for a fact that if the genders were reversed between the two characters, anime fans around the world would be outraged and the series would be cancelled. Unless you're talking about fake anime fans who stir trouble for the sake of it, no one would care. OT: get a grip or forfeit watching anime altogether. |
TMR98 said: I tried this series as it was being released. I was 18-19 at the time, and at first I really liked what it brought it to the table. Good animation, nice introduction to slice of life (I was new to the genre at that time), and a really good, tasteful representation of LGBT+ romance that I found really progressive. Plus some moments were really cute. This all started to change after the Twister scene. To say I was severely uncomfortable would be a heavy understatement. The whole scene seemed rather inappropriate. I let it slide, thinking it was ultimately innocent and played for humor. Sure it was suspicious as hell, but still. What really set me off was the interactions of Lucoa and Shouta. Severely inappropriate, in my eyes. An older woman sexually teasing a boy that's too young to consent even in Japanese law. And it was pretty obvious Shouta was a very confused child that wasn't even fully mentally mature, and could not properly consent. I was disgusted especially at the beach episode. I know for a fact that if the genders were reversed between the two characters, anime fans around the world would be outraged and the series would be cancelled. People have used the argument that Lucoa is unfamiliar with human society so her actions are acceptable, and that argument does not work for me. People also say to skip those parts, and that also isn't very convincing. Why skip 1/4 of a series? I've never had to do that before, because no series has disgusted me this much before. I'm not here to start a fight or insult anyone. Though this has legitimately bothered me for a good while (and almost made me quit anime entirely), including the past several months. I want to see if I'm really judging it too harshly or if it really is "child endangerment and grooming: the anime". I gave it a 1/10, because no amount of quality animation, good parts unrelated to that side plot, or anything could possibly make up for such an appalling act to me. You watch anime. Be okay with shotacons and lolicons is my advice lmao. |
| You actually watch anime while having a problem with shotacons? Like 78% of anime isn’t for you then my guy. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
on | If this shit bothers you, just wait until you hear about Mother of the Goddess’s Dormitory Lmfaoooo |
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Chiribei said: Why are you demanding us to change your rating? Figure it out for yourself. If that content bothers you so much, and you really can't get around it, then you don't have to force yourself too. It bothers me too, but I was able to get around it, and even I can say this: it's a slice of life show, you aren't missing a lot if you ultimately decide not to give it another chance. It has good moments, and the art/animation is obviously really good. But you can find those moments in plenty of other anime, and in regards to art/animation, KyoAni have released plenty of better shows without the uncomfortable content. You can go watch those if you want to see their art/animation work. Go treat yourself to K-On or something. This is probably the best reply I could have gotten. I have major fear of missing out when it comes to anime, I always feel like I have to watch what’s popular. But you’re totally right, I don’t have to force myself. And it’s only a slice of life, and the studio has made other things. For a time I genuinely thought of not watching anything made by the studio, but if I boycotted every studio for some anime I didn’t agree with, I wouldn’t have any anime to watch. Good points overall |
| I don't know how you consider this as a good representation of LGBT community, while you can even make a strong case that noone if those character is LGBT. Like for example when Kobayashi briefly turned into a biological male, Tohru was raring to go, which directly contradicts the notion, that she is lesbian, while Kobayashi herself does not display sby romantic interest. Kana shows little to no emotions wity her interactions with Saikawa, while Saikawa herself considers her more like a puppy, than an actual love interests. Obviously, you can ship whoever you want, but inconsistencies are there. This show is more about family bond, than romance. About Shouta and Lucoa: Obviously, there is little to defend there. While Lucoa's actions can be considered teasing and grooming, we thankfully haven't seen any actual sexual acts yet. |
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| Dragon Maid was not my thing due to disliking the mc. I would say a lot of the fanservice is otaku pandering, but that was not my problem with it. |
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LoliLoverS3 said: Sorry bro, but this os like 78% of animes, Ecchi with "underage" characters are pretty commom same in Shounen (NNT a great example), probably anime not is for you I mean, I’ve seen quite a bit of anime without this kind of stuff. Even ecchi without this kind of stuff. I think my best course of action is to just avoid stuff like this. I don’t have to like what’s popular, if it’s something that makes me uncomfortable. There are hundreds of anime out there, I’m fine skipping over some if they don’t suit my tastes. aarfran said: Gotta say that if this really makes you uncomfortable then you should just drop the show. Anime is made for the Japanese audience not the west. So naturally they will cover topics that are funny or comedic in this way where other cultures may not feel comfortable with it. When I watched it I found it far too absurd to take as actual child grooming. Given the fact that they are Dragons to start with I already felt very separated from reality when watching the show. From the sounds of it that isn’t the case with you. My only advise is that you should probably not rate an anime a 1 if you don’t agree with its content. I personally feel the rating system should be used to rate artistic quality and not so much on what the show covers content wise. Either way there are plenty of anime you would enjoy without this type of content. You don’t need to be an anime fan. You can just be a fan of the anime you like Most of that is really good advice, thank you. My ratings factor in everything, though. Animation, pacing, plot, characters, everything. I may bump Dragon Maid up to a 3/10, because the animation and character designs were okay. |
TuxedoMarx45 said: Easy. If you didn't like it don't watch it again. Don't change your rating and move on to something else. It's your taste, your opinion,.and just because everyone else likes.it and can get over the things that bother you, it doesn't mean you should do the same. Best advice actually. Wow, I’m dumb. I gotta remember stuff like this. Always had a fear of missing out and that I’d have to enjoy what’s popular. When in reality everyone is different and can have their own tastes. |
| It is alright to feel uncomfortable with the topics treated by the anime, the author is just a degenerate that plays too much with fire and you don't buy the idea of Lucoa being a divine entity that is beyond the modern moral compass (Which is kind of the point of the anime anyways, watching how dragons from the past era interact with modern society and develop themselves) Now, I just will attack this idea ""child endangerment and grooming: the anime", because it is wrong. While the acts of Lucoa are clearly inappropiate, the series never installs such acts as a way to go or something to look for, instead it is frowned upon like... all the time. The point of the relationship is to move forward the character of Shouta (Breaking his shell and insecurities) and play with the the idea of modern pre-pubescent embarrassment, where we are not oblivious about sexual references (Because of media) but we are obviously not comfortable with them |
Rembe said: TMR98 said: Well since your new to anime, this kinda expected imo. I’ve seen my amounts of ecchi anime this type of stuff wouldn’t bother me (that twister scene tho still does kinda rub me the wrong way) but hey anime isn’t for everyone, I suggest you try something less mature like k-On, it’s also a slide of life.It’s really hard to focus on those positive aspects when there’s literally a grown woman grooming a little boy as a side plot. I’m supposed to take such an appalling act as a joke? Or I’m supposed to be attracted to it? Only thing I feel is extreme discomfort. I don't consider this a normal ecchi anime, at least compared to others I've seen like Monster Musume or Rosario + Vampire. As for anime that's mature, I currently read Berserk and Chainsaw Man. Both have their violent and fanservice-y moments. Heck, with the stuff that happens in certain chapters of Berserk, it really makes Dragon Maid look like nothing. I think my issue is how it's presented. Stuff involving kids in Berserk heavily differs from how it's presented in Dragon Maid. Berserk shows how evil it really is, Dragon Maid makes it look like a positive thing. An erasing of the innocence of youth, for someone who is simply not mature yet. Comparing something like Rosine from Berserk to something like Shouta from Dragon Maid are like comparing night and day. Or even like Guts to Shouta. Both had stuff nonconsensually done to them yet in Dragon Maid it's presented like a joke when in Berserk it's presented like the terrible thing it really is. Edit: This isn't me trying to convince you not to watch it. It's your life, do as you please. This is just why I will probably just give it a 1/10 and move on to something that I will find better and more enjoyable. |
CyberPsychosisNov 27, 2021 10:24 PM
Ayuima said: Watch Boku no pico, then talk to me about awkward. That’s literally a hentai, not some allegedly wholesome slice of life. |
Bocchi_UwU_ said: You haven't the point of Shotacon nature and Shotacon jokes? Luccoa x Shouta is only a comedic "couple"... I guess I'm missing the joke then? I don't find anything about it very funny, personally. |
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