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Apr 4, 2010 1:03 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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OP/ED are both alright but Period/Shunkan Sentimental are still WAY better IMO.

OP "Rain" by SID
[720p] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1AsEm9hsr8&fmt=22

ED "Ray of Light" by Nakagawa Shoko ED Version
[480p] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG23xjLDHz8&fmt=18

"Ray of Light" by Nakagawa Shoko *Full Music Video*
[720p] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHojNmqDHsw&fmt=22

EDIT: Replaced dead links again...
YOUTUBE STOP DELETING VIDEOS!!

Feedback on the new OP/ED?

Dolls..

Envy is back.

Olivier vs Sloth <3


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Apr 4, 2010 1:43 AM

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Haven't watched it yet but that OP is kinda........eh.........hopefully the animation makes up for it otherwise I'm missing the old OP already. It reminds me WAY too much of the first ED. I know they're both by SiD and all but still. I rate the song a 7.5!

Edit: oh and thanks for uploading the new OP early for us!
 
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Apr 4, 2010 3:11 AM

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Here you can watch both ED/OP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
I give both songs a 7, kinda disappointed, but that's my opinion .
 
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Apr 4, 2010 3:36 AM

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Spiritsoul said:
Here you can watch both ED/OP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
I give both songs a 7, kinda disappointed, but that's my opinion .


Good find!

The opening was disappointing for me too, it felt like an ending to me. Especially since there was quite a lot of still framed backgrounds, a real letdown compared to what we had for the past 3 openings [and even the original FMA]. For the last opening it lacked 'oomph' completely. The only good thing is that it had a really good backdrop of Greed. I was gonna add that it didn't spoil anything, but ... there really isn't anything to spoil anyways.

The ending reminds me of a Digimon Frontier ending, but maybe that's just me. :) Nothing to write home about either. A score of 3/10 for opening, 5/10 for ending in my book. :(
 
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Apr 4, 2010 3:42 AM
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i personally find the new op song beautiful,almost made me cry :(

new ed was meh,expected more from shokotan =.=
 
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Apr 4, 2010 3:45 AM

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The OP and ED were both terribad. I expected something better for the ending of the series.

The animation is nice though, if spoilerific.
 
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Apr 4, 2010 3:51 AM

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OP was awesomeness, ED was not as awesome.


The Episode was Okay although a bit too fast.

5/5
 
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Apr 4, 2010 5:27 AM

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Opening and Ending 5 were good. Nothing much to say,expect a bit disappointed bout it, expect more epic opening.
 
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Apr 4, 2010 5:32 AM

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Aww... love the opening scene of Winry watching over Edward.

Nice opening, feeling of desolate future... but with hints of hope :D

ending... its okay,,, was hoping for a Gurren kind of song, (oh well)

episode 5/5
 
Apr 4, 2010 5:52 AM

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OP - Nice music (I question whether it fits or not), with high quality animation... However, that animation has terrible transitions, and at time these transitions are eyesores (mostly around the part in the town, with Scar and Bradley (and just before that)).

ED - Also nice music, but animation wise, where the hell did the budget that was used in the op go?
 
Apr 4, 2010 6:08 AM

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The new opening is kinda sad but i like it :] also the ending <3
 
Apr 4, 2010 6:31 AM

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Wangst OP is wangsty. After a couple watches, I got used to it, and alongside the ED it sets a beautiful tone for the finale of my beloved FMA.
 
Apr 4, 2010 6:53 AM

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cardinal4 said:
Spiritsoul said:
Here you can watch both ED/OP : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0peE6Uv3ISA
I give both songs a 7, kinda disappointed, but that's my opinion .


Good find!

The opening was disappointing for me too, it felt like an ending to me. Especially since there was quite a lot of still framed backgrounds, a real letdown compared to what we had for the past 3 openings [and even the original FMA]. For the last opening it lacked 'oomph' completely. The only good thing is that it had a really good backdrop of Greed. I was gonna add that it didn't spoil anything, but ... there really isn't anything to spoil anyways.

The ending reminds me of a Digimon Frontier ending, but maybe that's just me. :) Nothing to write home about either. A score of 3/10 for opening, 5/10 for ending in my book. :(


there's lots and lots they could have spoiled lol :)
 
Apr 4, 2010 7:12 AM

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I was hoping for something upbeat and fast for the new OP, but I still like the new one. It has a sad tone and makes you feel really uncertain of what kind of ending FMA will have.
It was really well animated but not without its spoilers (One of which was cleverly shadowed xD)
Speaking of which, anyone notice the house at the end of the OP? That's not the Elric house, is it?
The ED was uummm... aahhh... Will take some getting used to?

Wow... The first part of episode was pretty bloody. And Envy's comeback was really (o_O)
 
Apr 4, 2010 8:27 AM

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As always, an episode full of entertainment, there should be a limit of how good an anime can be, this just gets better every week.

just when I was getting annoyed with Al (I always forget he's just a 10 year old :P) looks like he will be kicking some kimblee butt.

10/10

and loved both the OP/ED, the lyrics match with the animation, and the music are nice, the songs are nice, have no clue why everyone is complaining, well i guess it boils down to individual taste, so no complain on everyone's complains :D
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Apr 4, 2010 9:03 AM
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FMA:B openings are always so spoilery! But at least it didn't spoil anything not yet covered in the manga... That would've been a tragedy. But what's with Truth!Winry? I hope that doesn't come up as a plot point later on.
 
Apr 4, 2010 9:47 AM

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I'm really happy with the new opening, it has the feeling of "last battle" that fits with the story, the ending is OK to me.

Waiting for subs...
 
Apr 4, 2010 10:06 AM
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You gonna be kidding me the OP was way too spoilerish..... even for a manga reader....some of it can deem to be... dangerous....

Love the OP. ED was only slightly above average as animation wasn't too impressive....
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
 
Apr 4, 2010 10:48 AM

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wakka9ca said:
You gonna be kidding me the OP was way too spoilerish..... even for a manga reader....some of it can deem to be... dangerous....

Love the OP. ED was only slightly above average as animation wasn't too impressive....


OP is only spoilerish if you know what to expect. Otherwise the "spoilers" are rather cryptic.

 
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Those motherfuckers. I think they put a spoiler for the manga in the opening. At 19s in they have Truth looking like Winry and then Ed surrounded by white supposedly looking at it. There was never anything remotley like that in the manga, so if something like that does end up happening I will be extremley pissed off.
 
Apr 4, 2010 11:52 AM
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The new OP wasn't so.. well maybe I don't like it much because Period was a superb song.
But now the story is not easy to follow, because they move parallely at seperate places, but at each of them there were great moments.
The animation when Mei fought the immortal while keeping Envy was priceless, so was Envy shouting "YATTA" when she was eaten by one of them xD
Poor Heinkel, but he set the flag now it's Alphonse's turn! Nice to see Kimbley is around again.
The ED succeeded my expectations, nice song by Shoko-tan :)
 
Apr 4, 2010 12:24 PM
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suuuuuuuuuubs nowwwww
 
Apr 4, 2010 12:34 PM

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mundo said:
Those motherfuckers. I think they put a spoiler for the manga in the opening. At 19s in they have Truth looking like Winry and then Ed surrounded by white supposedly looking at it. There was never anything remotley like that in the manga, so if something like that does end up happening I will be extremley pissed off.
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You gonna be kidding me the OP was way too spoilerish..... even for a manga reader....some of it can deem to be... dangerous....

Love the OP. ED was only slightly above average as animation wasn't too impressive....


not really.


EVEN I (who has read all of the manga currently released at least five times) never caught the main spoilers in the op and only noticed most of them when someone pointed them out :P
 
Apr 4, 2010 1:43 PM

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Divinity_123 said:
suuuuuuuuuubs nowwwww


Tomodachi is going to release it today probably, they said they stopped but on April 1st.

They're working on the new OP/ED



 
Apr 4, 2010 3:57 PM
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I like how the OP was cute and mellow, and then we get into the actual episode and it's OH GOD NIGHTMARE FUEL EVERYWHERE.
 
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To be honest, I'm a little amazed at the negative feedback for the new OP. Personally, I found it brilliant. Better than any of the original FMA OPs put together, yes, even Rewrite. Song surprised me but nearly had me in tears by the end of it. And really, it's not that spoilerific as people make it out to be. You have to think about the scenes to actually get what the spoilers are. If you're not a manga reader, chances are you're not going to be spoiled. Most of the scenes don't even contain spoilers. Though, I am curious at the many appearances of Trisha and the odd Trisha-like Truth thing. Dunno about that.

As for the episode, I really, really liked it lol. Some great scenes wrapped up in a nicely packaged episode. And YES, go Al.
 
Apr 4, 2010 6:00 PM

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New opening rocks. Thats all
 
Apr 4, 2010 6:32 PM

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New opening rocks. Thats all

The song would be much better as ending, so not exciting...

BUT WHAT A FUCKING AWESOME EPISODE, ARUFOOOOOOOOOOOONSEEEEEEEEEEE ELRICOOOOO
 
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Fai said:
mundo said:
Those motherfuckers. I think they put a spoiler for the manga in the opening. At 19s in they have Truth looking like Winry and then Ed surrounded by white supposedly looking at it. There was never anything remotley like that in the manga, so if something like that does end up happening I will be extremley pissed off.
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You gonna be kidding me the OP was way too spoilerish..... even for a manga reader....some of it can deem to be... dangerous....

Love the OP. ED was only slightly above average as animation wasn't too impressive....


not really.


EVEN I (who has read all of the manga currently released at least five times) never caught the main spoilers in the op and only noticed most of them when someone pointed them out :P


yeah...people pointed it out to me and i only caught an al and roy spoiler lol :P and i too have read every chapter like 2 or 3 times :)
 
Apr 4, 2010 8:08 PM

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Give me the old OP and ED back T.T

And one more time Olivier make me wish for the next episode...
 
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That OP was AWFUL! Been waiting 11 freakin episodes for one as good as golden time lover or again, but this is worse than the last one. A couple of nods to plot points. Liked the part with Roy, but overall, very drab... bo-ring. Awkward winry chest-wtf? So sad. Kinda expected them to go way overboard with the action and blow my face off since it is the last one. :( i die inside.

And as for the episode, nice to see Envy back in ac, and yes!!! Alphonse becomes kick-ass finally.
 
Apr 4, 2010 8:32 PM

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Your mileage may vary for the op/eds; I personally loved them.

Anywho, great episode. Brotherhood is certainly doing the manga justice.
 
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taterhead said:
Jouten said:
New opening rocks. Thats all

The song would be much better as ending, so not exciting...

BUT WHAT A FUCKING AWESOME EPISODE, ARUFOOOOOOOOOOOONSEEEEEEEEEEE ELRICOOOOO



It was my opinion i'm allowed to have one
 
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Even if it wasn't obvious enough that it was morse code I don't think there is anyone in the world that would not go crazy if you are lock in some place with someone doing noise for 48 hours straight... Stupid Alphonse.....
Also after he killed soooooooo many people and learning he is the reason of the Ishval conflict why wouldn't they kill Envy after defeating him???
I dont think this is an anime where the characters are all stupids it quite the contraty they are pretty smart and after so much fighting and finally having the upper hand they start doing stupids things all the time.
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Apr 4, 2010 11:50 PM

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TMD-Raze release is out now... hopefully Eclipse won't be slow this week due to the new OP/ED.
 
Apr 5, 2010 1:17 AM

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I swear, an anime being this good has to be criminal.
 
Apr 5, 2010 1:27 AM

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MOTHERF-
Did you hear that "-giggle- Fullmetal Alchemist" in the middle? XD Oh God.

New OP&ED are good, I like them :)

Lol at the subs: "SISTA~ ARE YOU AWRITE?!"

mundo said:
Those motherfuckers. I think they put a spoiler for the manga in the opening. At 19s in they have Truth looking like Winry and then Ed surrounded by white supposedly looking at it. There was never anything remotley like that in the manga, so if something like that does end up happening I will be extremley pissed off.

Oh God, no o.o I didn't even think about it...
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I was hoping for something upbeat and fast for the new OP, but I still like the new one. It has a sad tone and makes you feel really uncertain of what kind of ending FMA will have.

I say Ed is going to die xP That would be a wham ending, wouldn't it?

Anyway, this episode provides arguments for everyone that ever questioned my opinion about Al being awesome(r than Ed).
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Apr 5, 2010 3:06 AM

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Awesome Fuckin Episode thats all :p

5/5
 
Apr 5, 2010 3:51 AM
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This episode was too awesome. I got chills so many times on this episode. Next episode is gonna be awesome too.






 
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ArnoldK said:
wakka9ca said:
You gonna be kidding me the OP was way too spoilerish..... even for a manga reader....some of it can deem to be... dangerous....

Love the OP. ED was only slightly above average as animation wasn't too impressive....


OP is only spoilerish if you know what to expect. Otherwise the "spoilers" are rather cryptic.


Yup, not everything appearing in FMA openings are canon. Like Period's Envy-Lan Fan fight, and Kimblee + Sloth co-op.

Like the psychiatrist's blot test, it's pretty much open to intepretation. I honestly don't think Winry-Truth makes sense, Winry has been a side-character all the while


I'd still rather this opening been more 'rock' or shounen-ish. If I had to introduce someone to FMA I definitely won't chose OP 5. Though OP 5 would work great, in introducing the differences between the original FMA anime and Brotherhood, since it doesn't spoiler anything too obvious [for the uninitiated], yet it illustrates a greater context for the side characters + new major side characters, eg. Maria Ross, Scar's deflection, crazed Greed, another Armstrong sister, more Hoenheim mystery.
 
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re: spoiler pics
woh~Sloth's hands "all over" Olivier!!! o.o well not really all over though..
but wondering how shes gonna handle him later when she gets outta his hands..
I just remembered her "angry-face" scene with Raven when his hands were all over hers..!
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I like the new OP and ED ^^

great episode :D


 
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The new op/Ed was touching T__T !
and the ep was great <3 and the immortail army was creepy O___o !
envy <3
 
Apr 5, 2010 6:37 AM
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envys back...now who didnt see that coming.

armstronogs vs sloth should be a great fight along with al vs kimblee and pride.

oh and those immortal soldiers were messed up.
 
Apr 5, 2010 6:40 AM

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I don't like Japanese music anyway so I don't particularly care what the opening or ending is. Although, saying that the first opening for the original FMA is probably the best opening ever.

Pretty good episode though with the dolls and Al's epicness.
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The supposed spoilers in the opening and ending are really bothering me. Not to mention that they're both lackluster. I'm really fucking upset about them. I want an FMA opening to be fast paced, and full of hype, but this slow ass shit just makes me feel emo. Not a good way to go out. Something so little... but it irks me soooooo deeply.
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Zell182 said:
the first opening for the original FMA is probably the best opening ever.

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The supposed spoilers in the opening and ending are really bothering me. Not to mention that they're both lackluster. I'm really fucking upset about them. I want an FMA opening to be fast paced, and full of hype, but this slow ass shit just makes me feel emo. Not a good way to go out. Something so little... but it irks me soooooo deeply.



It fits the feel of what is happening in manga, it also fits the feel of sort of "epilogue"/.calm before the storm.

Who said that FMA would end "all happy" way?


Surelly I don't see it ending with a "omg everyone dies" way as it would not fit the main idea of fma, however i donot expect everyone to make it either.


Ultimately both OP and ed is about hope and moving forward.(the way OP contrasts with the last OP scene of ed sleeping and winry watching over him in the rebuild house) and etc.

If anything this OP and ED embodies the main idea behind fma the best.
 
Apr 5, 2010 8:11 AM
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Actually i like the op song
Its has that "I cant give up...I can make it through this" feel to it
But i was expecting some thing more upbeat

And Alphonse...So much GAR!!! and at the tender age of 14-15...
Expecting badassery from Al next week...
 
Apr 5, 2010 8:25 AM

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OP song is nice, it'll take some time for me to get used to it. It isn't spoiler-free but it doesnt have spoilers for manga readers. Only surprising thing is the Truth-Winry. I skip the ED songs but when I watched it it feels like they cut back on animation there. Good song btw.

Episode is awesome.Feels a bit fast but they fill it up with some dialogues to extend it. Loved how Envy returned. Sloth vs Armstrong is also great. Lol at subs on Alex's entry. Alphonse was really awesome coming out of that cloud dust. I give up on guessing how much they'll put on each episode, let them do this and I'll enjoy the awesomeness that is FMA:B

5/5
 
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