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Rob7 said: Damn, the LN even explained events like this (how he got a free horse). RIP the pace. That's why novel readers hate most of anime adaptations: because the studios don't adapt in the slowest way possible, with 100 episodes per season, just for their boring reader sake. Not me, and I'm even re-reading the series currently. It does not have to be a perfect 1:1 since that's not feasible, so while some elements are lost or moved to another time, the intensity, the emotions, the actual scenes that matter are all retained and executed really well while world building is still elite even without tons of exposition on it. Showing rather than telling for some details, and leaving out some minor details is a fine sacrifice, for the quality Studio Bind has given with this series. I'm a LN/WN fan for sure, and the anime's still one of the best I've ever seen, even if isn't a PERFECT 10.0/10 adaptation and more of an 8.5-9/10 in that aspect. |
| Another great episode!! I cried when Paul hugged Rudy the anxiety of being denied is just unbearable. The feel when your parent or sisters talk to you but never look at you is very painful and scary, it's like they denied your existence! Rudy forgive his father is a genius writing too, he see himself in Paul but the different is that Rudy give up on his best friends but Paul didn't give up on Rudy! This had lead Rudy realizing his mistake of his past life and how great his father is compare to himself. In his past life the regret had cornered him into dead end, because of the stupid pride and stubborn keeping him from apologize his friend make Rudy lose his friend forever. If we not know about that past experience I don't think anyone could forgive Paul easy like that. Rudy forgive Paul not only save Paul but also save his family his home the connection he once lost had now return to him, slowly but surely. "When we hit our lowest point, we are open to the greatest change " A quote that saved my life |
NhtDesuNov 7, 2021 10:40 AM
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| Someone told me recently that Geese isn't actually a character in the source material. I can kinda see that but is it true? |
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| Rudy playing a Guilty Gear game in the flashback was pretty cool |
rasterman7 said: He is definitely in the LN but it might be the Manga which isn't Cannon to the story.Someone told me recently that Geese isn't actually a character in the source material. I can kinda see that but is it true? |
| A nice reunion of father and son . Geese really put a spot light on himself and nice to see paul being responsible dad taking care of norn so well in such harsh circumstances. Paul getting nightmares about Rudy well animated as expected of studio bind . Eris after hearing about her family missing still my girl didn’t started crying like cliché female lead instead she took it positive and stayed strong. Her character impressing me more and more . Studio bind just gone all out in this eps from starting to the end it felt like I’m watching a movie . Now Rudy and paul started to begin their journey in separated ways . |
AtoferatofeNov 7, 2021 9:39 AM
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| Nice to see they made up and this was all resolved happily. These last couple episodes have knocked it out of the park so I'm excited to see where things go from here after this little dramatic reunion. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. |
wavychris said: Even funnier when the Manga doesn't even have Geese, who has been pretty critical to the plot as of now.Rob7 said: u mfs who really think the anime is adapting the manga sound so dumbComparing to manga i'm disapointed with Eris, she is just an unidimensional trope of a Tsundere 100% of time in the anime (while in the books she is whatever the reader wants). Anime is wasting her. Also the comic did better the talk no jutsu of Gesu, with a bit of action and monsters instead of lazy bar talk. And the anime did not exposed very well the degradation of Paul. He was not depressed only because of his family, but EVERYBODY HE KNEW fron Buena Village is dead. And he, as protector of that village, feel guilty for it, for not find them earlier. |
dabdabgoose said: Even funnier when the Manga doesn't even have Geese, who has been pretty critical to the plot as of now. Geese is there in the manga. The scene was executed differently from the LNs/anime but he was there. |
| i.. just can't.. this was such a teary episode.. i doubt that there has been a good/avg episode in this season... every episode is absolute perfection! that Rudeus flashback to his previous life.. him comparing himself to others.. man! i just can't.. |
Erogamerss said: dabdabgoose said: and this is why I dislike source material elitists, they have no concept of reality and how it's simply not possible to add everything, you don't need to add absolutely everything to keep the message on point. Nah the manga reader are must more annoying with they moment thing. Most of the novel reader are find with this because it straight up form the novel I still think the manga do a better job at making me cry than the anime but in the end the message they want to give us in the anime is clear so that doesn't matter anymore. |
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| Man this reminds me of when it came to my own experience. Not even realizing or even caring for anything else in that moment. It took years after I cut ties to even try to make an effort to make up. |
dabdabgoose said: and this is why I dislike source material elitists, they have no concept of reality and how it's simply not possible to add everything, you don't need to add absolutely everything to keep the message on point. I have to say, as someone who read the source material, the anime adaptation is doing a really great job imo Sure it skipped some important bits, but the core stuff is there and it's been really loyal to the novel This is definitely one of the best isekai adaptations |
KorhalChildNov 7, 2021 10:18 AM
dabdabgoose said: Ah, they have meant the manga then. I see.rasterman7 said: He is definitely in the LN but it might be the Manga which isn't Cannon to the story.Someone told me recently that Geese isn't actually a character in the source material. I can kinda see that but is it true? |
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Conceptualhero said: You're right, the one who told it to me might have meant the manga version. Sorry for the confusion.rasterman7 said: Someone told me recently that Geese isn't actually a character in the source material. I can kinda see that but is it true? He's present in the light novels... |
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KorhalChild said: dabdabgoose said: and this is why I dislike source material elitists, they have no concept of reality and how it's simply not possible to add everything, you don't need to add absolutely everything to keep the message on point.That's why novel readers hate most of anime adaptations: because the studios don't adapt in the slowest way possible, with 100 episodes per season, just for their boring reader sake. I have to say, as someone who read the source material, the anime adaptation is doing a really great job imo Sure it skipped some important bits, but the core stuff is there and it's been really loyal to the novel This is definitely one of the best isekai adaptations Funnier thing is 86 has been universally praised as an adaptation of the light novels as one of the best ones out there, yet even that series isn't 1:1 even with the first season only having 1 volume to adapt. Original stuff is added, stuff is changed in order, and battles that had way too much exposition in the books and made it taxing to read through at times, felt free-flowing in the anime with more focus on the action and destruction and less on describing every single weapon/mech and action taken in many pages. It's not a 1:1 yet it's great. Even Monogatari takes liberties (particularly with Kizumonogatari), and this series does too and it's still fantastic. The light novel for Mushoku Tensei is its own wonderous experience, the anime is too, and for me the ultimate experience is consuming both. But yeah, the anime regardless is still a great adaptation for me, even if not every ounce of detail is there and some side stories are skipped or moved to later points as long as the actual anime experience is cohesive and still offers many, many great things and hits well with the big scenes, which it does. And the production quality is still some of the best I've seen in recent years. I'll take this anime with some sacrifices of smaller things than an incompetent adaptation as a whole. |
Erogamerss said: NhtDesu said: With ton of bulshit and unlogic + cutting important Character then yet it should at least do something.I still think the manga do a better job at making me cry than the anime but in the end the message they want to give us in the anime is clear so that doesn't matter anymore. Woah chill I'm not saying manga is better than the anime. For me manga is a big Meh like you said but that scene when Paul and Rudy hugged eachother I cried everytime I read it (5 times already!!) It's the pinnacle of emotion I can feel from the manga |
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| Great episode. I'm glad Paul got a proper wake up call after all the horrible things he did in the last episode. |
| Over here in tears man. I lost my dad 9 years ago to the day yesterday. To see rudy and his dad make up and hug like that really got to me. When I was a kid, I was a spoiled brat and said some really mean things to my dad who was an older Vietnam vet. Things that no parent should ever hear, especially not one that was as good as he was. I wish everyday I could say sorry. Please cherish your loved ones. |
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| They skip and change some content from the manga, I like it more the way the manga did it, but still it was a good episode! |
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| Glad to see these two make it up, really touched my heart. Especially the part when Paul and Rudeus hugged and Paul started to cry :(. Geuse a real one, looking for the survivors and helped them make up! |
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Icewolf004 said: They skip and change some content from the manga, I like it more the way the manga did it, but still it was a good episode! This anime followed the light novel, not the manga since the LNs/WNs are the main version of the series before this anime. Manga went a whole different direction with these scenes so that's why they're different. Personally, I much preferred the way the anime handled it since it felt more genuine and subtle, but that's just an opinion thing. |
| This episode is the most emotional one. The father son feels really got into me. Some people hate Paul so much but in this episode fully reveals that he is just a human, he did a mistake, he's asshole, but despite how bad he is, he still a family man. And he really loves his family. Also the flashback moment is valuable. I think that must be change Rudy as a character much. He really is change as better person now. Great episode. |
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| I couldn't help but cry when I saw that hug, I'm so happy for them. This ep filled me with the most wholesome energy 5/5 Also that bread animation O_O |
Kaiseki said: can't forget the bread lmao. Yes the last two episodes have been pretty nice and we'll made. It's amazing how they're still keeping up with the animation even in the 17th episodePaul really cares about Norn, well, he's a father after all. When Rudeus saw Paul's face, he slightly remembered his former self in the real world. Aww that hug... such a wholesome episode. Also the bread was very well animated tbh. |
| Wow, where do I start? I actually teared up a bit during that emotional hugging scene with Paul and Rudeus, no lies. My god, what a powerful episode and a great follow-up from the last one. Very well directed all around. While some details were definitely culled, the author's ability to understand the nature of human communication is remarkable. This is one of the best ways to write drama in fiction, espeically in the most down-to-earth organic ways possible. No fancy dramatic music, no unnecessary theatrics. Sure, the aforementioned can be great and all when utilized correctly, but it wouldn't fit the distinct and ambient atmosphere of the Mushoku Tensei anime. Paul and Rudeus made mistakes cause they're human, they're people. But people change. It was awkward at first, especially with how Rudeus wasn't looking Paul directly in the face. I can relate to that even now myself cause I personally have my own issues with keeping focus on looking directly at people I conversate with in person. Not that I'm completely unable, but because it can feel awkward at times, especially when both sides here aren't really some of the best social communicators in the world to say the least. The Paul flashback was abridged but thankfully wasn't too dragged out and did enough to express to the audience the weight of his own circumstances. Geese was a real dude, too, giving that helpful advice to Paul prior (Rujierd as well, too, btw). Eris was great, too, in terms of standing up for Rudeus. Really shows how much she now cares for him. Good to see now that both sides are on good terms, even if everything wasn't completely resolved. The manga and LN might have had the flashier presentations, but the anime's take was far more befitting imho. |
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| The duality of the emotions during the hugging part was epic. When looking from Paul's side, you'd get all the thoughts and realizations rush in at the same time, leading anyone to cry like he did, but looking from the side of Rudeus, it became so funny I truly laughed out loud for quite a while. :b Even though this episode slapped me straight in the face, showing how firmly Rudeus is in his old body, I can't help but to still see a sliver of a chance that he will accept his new self at some point. (Probably not enough episodes in this series)... I'm thinking that its perhaps only when Rudeus sees that he has done something meaningful in this new life to be deserving of it. Of course he might never let go. Both outcomes are fine, but I'm curious what this author is thinking. I want to time-jump to next week. |
| God this anime is so good. The character writing is some of the best I have ever seen in an anime. Everyone feels like a real person and that makes their conflicts & resolutions hit that much harder. Idk where this season will end up, but it seriously might be a 10/10 when it ends. |
NhtDesu said: Erogamerss said: With ton of bulshit and unlogic + cutting important Character then yet it should at least do something. Woah chill I'm not saying manga is better than the anime. For me manga is a big Meh like you said but that scene when Paul and Rudy hugged eachother I cried everytime I read it (5 times already!!) It's the pinnacle of emotion I can feel from the manga The same feeling about the manga. The emotional scenes had more impact than the anime. - LN is the same slow paced story. But in the adaptations, anime is investing in SOL + Ecchi, and manga invested in drama x comedy variation. |
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| Geese is a true G. MVP of the series so far. |
| Great episode! Geese explained to Paul that he is looking at the situation with Rudeus wrong and that he is only an 11 year old kid. He also explained to Paul that the demon continent isn’t as easy to survive in as he thinks. That animation for the bread splitting was really nice also. Paul crying was a by emotional scene. I’m glad they made up. They are splitting up so fast though after just meeting again. Looking forward to the next episode! |
| AISHITERU...REM! |
| Wow, if only half (at least) of the show was as great as this episode, it would've been easy 9/10 for me... Bartender was the MVP of the episode. |
| Geese the real MVP showing Paul how stupid he was. |
| So sweet. Gave me good vibes, so i have high hopes for the next episode! |
| “Do what feels right in your heart. You will be criticized either way.” (Eleanor Roosevelt) |
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