| After watching takt Opt Destiny episode 3, we are introduced to such a character. Japan sure seems to love this one lol, just why does it seem like every fricking gay character loves to do this sort of thing? Making them feel quite uncomfortable, being all creepy and the like. But hey, at least the gay community is getting represented amirite? Is it simply comic relief, or have you had enough of this misrepresentation? What exactly is Japan saying? |
| I just consider it comic relief though I get why some people may consider it offensive. |
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| I consider this character part of the protagonist's harem. |
Absurdo_NOct 19, 2021 4:31 PM
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| There's a lot of questionable cliches in anime, and this one doesn't happen much and I don't get that bothered by it when it does |
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| Well the straight characters often are portrayed as creeps too so I wouldn't say it's too offensive because of that so just attempt at comedy but depends. Some instances it may be meant to be seen as playful joking around rather than always a serious pass attempt which ive had a bi friend flirt with me for that reason so that's a thing. Though sometimes I do wonder if that's how they actually see gay people as a whole idk. |
| It will depend on how the viewer takes it, but many characters, regardless of their orientation, are portrayed with tropes in every possible way within the anime. Homosexuals are not the only ones. |
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| I hate not because it's offensive, but because it's annoying. |
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| it'd be cool if there was one that wasn't portrayed as creepy |
| Y'all really be finding anything to complain about these days |
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| I am homophobic so I am not comfortable with that, but if the gay community thinks it's offensive or they are misrepresented then I respect their opinion. I usually avoid yaoi and stuff but if that trope is present in non-yaoi anime then I just ignore that part and focus on the rest of the plot. I am not in a position to tell whether that is acceptable or not in anime, it's upto everyone who watches it, we should remember that whatever happens in anime is not the 100% reflection of real life. |
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| What's the point of putting in such a tease if the mc is gonna end up with some basic girl anyways... |
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| Isn't it based in San fran? What do you expect lots of fa.... gays there. Have you never seen a video of their parades? They literally go in public naked. |
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| It's just one of those old tropes that don't really make sense anymore in 2021. Just like guys who like crossdressing without any good reason. It's not even funny or interesting in any way. For once I have to agree with the American woke culture. |
| It's not funny, I find it annoying if at all anything. |
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| Bruh you really complaining about a single piece of dialogue. Get a better hobby. It's better than the pretty boy supporting character with blonde hair who is not really gay but would bend over for the MC trope... |
| Outside of shounen ai, it's quite rare to find a well-written gay or even LGBT character (sadly) I'm pretty used to that trope now, it's kinda tiring whenever a character like that appears on screen (mostly because the character itself is portrayed as annoying) but you have to deal with it |
| I don't really care, as I'm no longer interested in anime boys. |
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Damuzen said: Since when did shounen-ai have well written gay characters!? These semes sexually abuse and rape those poor ukes.Outside of shounen ai, it's quite rare to find a well-written gay or even LGBT character (sadly) |
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Gween_Gween said: if a gay character is not being gay 100% of their time then why would you make em gay am i right? u heteros wouildnt know it smh idk they made Griffith do gay 4 pay also dramatical murder was supposed to be super gay but it was made only slightly gay which pissed off both the yaoi haters and yaoi lovers so maybe you're onto something. |
Maou_heika said: Damuzen said: Since when did shounen-ai have well written gay characters!? These semes sexually abuse and rape those poor ukes.Outside of shounen ai, it's quite rare to find a well-written gay or even LGBT character (sadly) Characters in Doukyuusei and Given are pretty well written for example, can't say the same thing about other anime like Junjou Romantica for example |
| I'm indifferent now but if you look at anime produced during the 80s, it was kinda worse. But I don't care much if you ask me. They're much better than western animation where they literally use my sexuality as a political tool or his whole character is based on that. Also, at least gay guys look hot in anime. |
NurguburuOct 20, 2021 3:06 PM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| It all depends on the context. For example, I loved the Yaranaika joke in one of the recent shows, but at the same time Uramichi Oniisan seemed somewhat homophobic with their classic jokes about flirty "ugly queer men". Nurguburu said: I'm indifferent now but if you look at anime produced during the 80s, it was kinda worse. But I don't care much if you ask me. They're much better than western animation where they literally use my sexuality as a political tool or his whole character is based on that. Also, at least gay guys look hot in anime. I still remember how Ranma spent its enormous lesbian potential on homophobic jokes like "ugh, he could have been kissed by another guy!". |
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GakutoDeathGlare said: After watching takt Opt Destiny episode 3, we are introduced to such a character. Japan sure seems to love this one lol, just why does it seem like every fricking gay character loves to do this sort of thing? Making them feel quite uncomfortable, being all creepy and the like. But hey, at least the gay community is getting represented amirite? Is it simply comic relief, or have you had enough of this misrepresentation? What exactly is Japan saying? Speaking from experience, gay guys can be real creeps. They're still men after all. |
scruffs said: GakutoDeathGlare said: After watching takt Opt Destiny episode 3, we are introduced to such a character. Japan sure seems to love this one lol, just why does it seem like every fricking gay character loves to do this sort of thing? Making them feel quite uncomfortable, being all creepy and the like. But hey, at least the gay community is getting represented amirite? Is it simply comic relief, or have you had enough of this misrepresentation? What exactly is Japan saying? Speaking from experience, gay guys can be real creeps. They're still men after all. True. It's less controversial among us since we are both men. Normally, we don't care much about it since we are a bunch of perverts when we're horny lol. Some don't like it but they're still a minority, discrimination between us still exists but depends of the group. We aren't very different from straight guys. People forget we're still men after all. But I respect straight guys, I'm not going to be a creep around them if they don't want except if some of them are just curious. Of course, we are attracted to straight guys but we don't force them at least in my case. |
NurguburuOct 20, 2021 5:21 PM
| All weebs creatures of the galaxy, hear this message. Those of you who listen will not be struck by western animation. You will no longer know hunger, nor pain. Your Anime have come to lead you now. Our strength shall serve as a luminous sun toward which all intelligence may blossom. And the impervious shelter beneath which you will prosper. However, for those who refuse our offer and cling to their western animation ways… For you, there will be great wrath. |
| I don't care and I don't think Japan wants to say something, but just to add another ship to the series to get more popularity and create some BL bait to increase the sells... ...KyoAni does this all the time with the female characters, creating Yuri moments without actual romance in the series... |
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Sonwig said: Lincanfer said: What? Why? You shouldn't be afraid of people just because they are different. I am homophobic I think the trope is annoying but not that bad really. For example the gay guy in Gurren Lagann does get some light hearted hostility from some characters but in the end he saves the day a couple of times and is good. I know some people hate the trope though. It's not like I want be afraid of them. It is easy for others to ask, "why are you afraid of them?", Yup and I get it, because even if there are other types of phobia such as Acrophobia, aquaphobia etc. Most of them are not related to humans so they are socially accepted and I am trying to overcome homophobia. I will make it clear just in case, I don't hate them, I respect them like others, I am just afraid of them and for your question "why am I afraid of them?" I don't know. It's my natural reaction. |
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| I disliked it because it was so repetitice but I developed antibodies so I don't care anymore |
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| I first used to disliked it. But now after seeing that many times, I think that it is funny |
| I've never really seen any gay character in anime outside of Banana fish. YOI, Given and Umibe no Etranger. So far I dont think they are bad at all since almost all of them represented in the stated anime were well written and nothing was too forced but I dont know how the lgbt community inteprets shounen ai. As for Shoujo ai, I really enjoyed Bloom into you and love the yuri moments in other shows whenever shown like that one scene in Clannad. |
| Well, I don't really mind at all but it does get annoying sometimes haha |
Damuzen said: I didn't like Doukyuusei, they were too horny, one of them literally put his hand up the other's shirt in a public place no less and there is also a kiss scene where the guy says NO but he still kisses him. Given TV series was good but in the movie Akihiko sexually assaults Haruki and they way they tried to make it look consensual was pretty bad. Not to mention these two series which are considered better are outlies and not the norm in BL. The genre is at a point where you literally need to praise the series if the author writes a gay character as a decent human being even if plot wise the story doesn't stand out. I've tried around 13 BL series ended up dropping most of them because they had sexual assault or rape at some point, worst part is these things are romanticized. Maou_heika said: Since when did shounen-ai have well written gay characters!? These semes sexually abuse and rape those poor ukes. Characters in Doukyuusei and Given are pretty well written for example, can't say the same thing about other anime like Junjou Romantica for example |
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Nirinbo said: without any good reason... is crossdressing because you simply want to not allowed or something? or do you need to have some sort of grand statement behind to accompany it? i'm just curious.Just like guys who like crossdressing without any good reason. It's not even funny or interesting in any way. |
Cazqui-09 said: Nirinbo said: without any good reason... is crossdressing because you simply want to not allowed or something? or do you need to have some sort of grand statement behind to accompany it? i'm just curious.Just like guys who like crossdressing without any good reason. It's not even funny or interesting in any way. I meant to say that the crossdressing trope is almost always used as a superficial characterization, without caring about the theme of gender identity at all. |
Nirinbo said: oh, i had mistakenly thought you moved on from the topic of tropes in anime/media to direct it at male crossdressing in real life. i think i was influenced to that misunderstanding due to the last sentence where you mentioned american woke culture. my apologies, i understand what you mean now.Cazqui-09 said: without any good reason... is crossdressing because you simply want to not allowed or something? or do you need to have some sort of grand statement behind to accompany it? i'm just curious. I meant to say that the crossdressing trope is almost always used as a superficial characterization, without caring about the theme of gender identity at all. |
| I think it's both. Well, it's not really a trope I like either. Either make them normal characters, or don't do them at all. |
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