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Sep 28, 2021 2:26 AM
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nice that MAL is adding so many new features, but would there have been some kinda policy or copyright issue to using http://staging.animethemes.moe instead or as well to show the actual OP/ED video from the anime?
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Sep 29, 2021 11:33 PM
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I think they limited it to like only 30 secs of the audio due to copyright issues.

That's why it is still better to stick with my script https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/427466-openings-endings-enhancer-mal

I will fix it when I can.
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Sep 30, 2021 2:41 AM
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ShaggyZE said:
Would there have been some kinda policy or copyright issue to using http://staging.animethemes.moe instead or as well to show the actual OP/ED video from the anime?


They used only the official videos on the official youtube pages of the artists , so i really wouldn't expect them to use themes.moe or anything like that. (That's why the copyrighted musics are not there , and are just a gray not-working button)

hacker09 said:
I think they limited it to like only 30 secs of the audio due to copyright issues.


I'd say it's just to listen to a preview , the complete versions are on the /video pages.
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Sep 30, 2021 3:54 AM
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Alexioos95 said:
ShaggyZE said:
Would there have been some kinda policy or copyright issue to using http://staging.animethemes.moe instead or as well to show the actual OP/ED video from the anime?


They used only the official videos on the official youtube pages of the artists , so i really wouldn't expect them to use themes.moe or anything like that. (That's why the copyrighted musics are not there , and are just a gray not-working button)

hacker09 said:
I think they limited it to like only 30 secs of the audio due to copyright issues.


I'd say it's just to listen to a preview , the complete versions are on the /video pages.

Yea, I know I also looked at the video pages, so I know they are only using official channels, and have always used youtube and official channels for trailers and pv's, instead of hosting videos themselves, they are using spotify for the 30 second mp3's fmab rain for instance and while I also don't expect them to ever use animethemes.moe like themes.moe or hacker09's script does, it would be nice as then there would be almost no gray buttons and if they programmed it well enough like http://staging.animethemes.moe/wiki we could have pip videos across the site, which would also be nice, but not needed or necessary even, so I'm fine with continuing to just use hacker09's script.

My question can only be answered by a dev or admin as we can only speculate between whatever coding is easiest for them, not wanting to get thousands of licenses due to all the work involved, and DMCA which I'm curious if they think they are protected by fair use by only having 30 second previews and if that's the primary reason they fallback onto youtube because if they can get away with not being sued why not download animethemes torrent with thousands of op/eds and host it themselves, but I don't expect them to reply as it's not important and I wouldn't if I was them.
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Sep 30, 2021 9:06 PM
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@Alexioos95

The complete version on the episodes tab on MAL are just the full anime episode, not only the full op/end video.

My script shows only the full op/end as it should be, and as MAL should have done.
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Oct 1, 2021 2:26 AM
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hacker09 said:
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The complete version on the episodes tab on MAL are just the full anime episode, not only the full op/end video.


I'm talking about the video tab , not the episode one.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/5114/Fullmetal_Alchemist__Brotherhood/video
https://myanimelist.net/anime/11757/Sword_Art_Online/video
In this tab there is the OPs/EDs videos. (Artist and/or Anime version depending on the accessibility on the official artist Youtube page)

I didn't tried your script , but i guess he's way better than what MAL has done , but atleast MAL respect the copyright like that. (Dunno about the 30s previews stance)

To be honest , i don't even care about this.
A lot of those videos are blocked in my country/not available on the artist page , and even if they were accessible , i would rather directly go on Youtube/theme.moe instead of there. (And since they only use Youtube , they miss some music. Like Kalafina's OSTs on Spotify.)
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Oct 1, 2021 7:43 AM
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Interesting,thanks for the links,I never really paid attention to them before
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Oct 1, 2021 4:12 PM
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Alexioos95 said:

To be honest , i don't even care about this.
A lot of those videos are blocked in my country/not available on the artist page , and even if they were accessible , i would rather directly go on Youtube/theme.moe instead of there. (And since they only use Youtube , they miss some music. Like Kalafina's OSTs on Spotify.)
A lot of them are blocked for me too, I could just use my VPN to connect to Japan, but that's a little more trouble than I'm willing to do, even having them on a separate video page is more trouble than using hacker09's script, plus they are the actual song/op of the anime.

hacker09 said:

Interesting,thanks for the links,I never really paid attention to them before
clicking on the new video images is another way that takes you there
ShaggyZEOct 1, 2021 4:23 PM
Oct 1, 2021 9:10 PM
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Clicking on the video icon just takes me to the episodes tab...
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Oct 1, 2021 9:18 PM

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Clicking on the video icon just takes me to the episodes tab...
that's odd, are you sure? I doubt your script is messing with it to cause that, these are the episodes link https://myanimelist.net/anime/5114/Fullmetal_Alchemist__Brotherhood/episode

when I click it, it takes me to videos, and yea it does have episodes at the top, but it has music videos when you scroll down

Oct 1, 2021 9:38 PM

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True... What a mess MAL is doing, why MAL didn't do like my script does?

MAL should just open the videos when the music title is clicked on the main page, I may try to do this with my script.
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@hacker09 I agree that's what they should have done like put it in the popup they have for when titles are clicked, but it's just easier for them to put them in the videos tab they already had, it doesn't even scroll down with an #anchor for which one is clicked

Also if you do it that way it's still going to be a pain to match the videos to the titles not sure if it makes it easier or harder now that the song title and artist are in separate elements
span.theme-song-title and span.theme-song-artist
so I still think you should build your own list below and could keep it embed down there
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" it doesn't even scroll down with an #achor for which one is clicked", this is the worst of all, this was the minimum I was expecting!

it's still going to be a pain to match the videos to the titles
Yes I know, I'm not sure if I'm willing to take this time taking task, but if I ever have free time then I may do it.

so I still think you should build your own list below and could keep it embed down there
yeah, about my script I might just give up on the matching thing and do as you say, that's much easier to do.
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Lol, the new MAL song previews use 30 second Spotify previews – they’re loaded from p.scdn.co. That’s why some of them are cut in weird places and sometimes you can tell it’s clipped from the full song. Well, I guess it’s one of the very few options they could have chosen if they wanted to do it legit, with permission. The other being embedding YouTube videos from official channels.
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Jendrej said:
Lol, the new MAL song previews use 30 second Spotify previews – they’re loaded from p.scdn.co. That’s why some of them are cut in weird places and sometimes you can tell it’s clipped from the full song. Well, I guess it’s one of the very few options they could have chosen if they wanted to do it legit, with permission. The other being embedding YouTube videos from official channels.

yep, I noticed that too posted a link to one above, hacker09's script is still the better option once he updates.
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ShaggyZE said:
yep, I noticed that too posted a link to one above
I didn't notice because you write long ass messages with no punctuation :)
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Jendrej said:
ShaggyZE said:
yep, I noticed that too posted a link to one above
I didn't notice because you write long ass messages with no punctuation :)

okay ;p, no biggie, twas my only long msg, wasn't trying to put you on the spot or point out that you didn't notice, I mean links are blue, but thanks for letting everyone who's watching know.
ShaggyZEOct 4, 2021 12:16 PM

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