Older Generation of Newer Generation?
| Question's simple: Which one is better, the Older Generation of Anime, or the Newer Generation? Now I'm going to cut the line where Attack on Titan is in the newer generation, anything before is in the older generation (it wouldn't be fair if it would be in the older generation) Now I'm expecting alot of newcomers to prefer the newer generation because be why things like Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, Vinland Saga, and a stupid amount of Isekai. But there are alot of Older anime that just hit different (not to mention nostalgia factor) For me, I'm going with Older Generation. While most of my favorite anime are from the newer generation, the older shows that I've seen will never hit the same compared to the newer ones coming out. EDIT: Ya'll need to chill, i can't put literally every single anime on here (character limit on the polls) And I got most of this information with google, meaning google took the remake of Fruits Basket and put it in the newer generation and took fate/zero and put the entire fate series in the newer generation. |
Erebus_AkeldamaSep 24, 2021 11:13 AM
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| Well monogatari was released in 2006 and if we are talking about only anime here. Monogatari is released alot earlier than most animes here. |
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| Older generation better. It has HxH, Eva, One piece. Nothing in the new era can reach their level |
| Useless division. Fruits Baskets is like from 25 years ago anyway. Same thing with Fate if you are into VN. |
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| Why is Monogatari in the newer generation section? Didn't that come out in 2009 or something? |
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| I feel like Fate and The Monogatari Series should be on the older side since they came out before Steins;Gate which you have on the older side. Anime wise Fate came out in 2006 yeah ufotable made it what it is today but even then Fate/Zero started in 2011 same year as Steins;Gate and Bakemonogatari started in 2009. |
| Fate/Stay Night came out in 2006, it’s older than some of the “Older Generation” anime you mentioned… |
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| Would've gone with older gen anyway, but many of the newer series are still ongoing, making it even easier to pick. |
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| Since 2013 is the cutting mark, I would have to say older generation. (btw all these shows i'll be talking about are top 10 for me) God damn Neon Genesis Evangelion and Clannad came out pre 2013 and they are 2/3 of my favourite anime of all time, so I have to go with that. Also Hyouka, Nichijou and K-On are before 2013 so that's great. But post 2013 also has my favourite anime Love is War and other bangers like Tsuki ga Kirei, Persona 3 Movies and Hibike so I can't say that post 2013 is anything bad in the slightest. |
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| If we compare the best of both generations then older gen. If we compare all anime of both generations then newer gen. |
| Why Fruits Basket is in the new generation? Seriously? Well I like the old one because most of new ones are rehashing from old ones. Like Kaguya-sama. The comedy schemes are from School Rumble and Bunny Girl Senpai's way of dialogues are from Monogatari. |
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| older generation easily, find it very hard to find a show that warrants anything higher than a 7 nowadays |
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| Take out 3-gatsu no lion, mob psycho and fate zero. And Older generation will be superior in every way |
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| My fav anime is coming from both newer and older generations so I don't have preferences |
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| "Older Generation or Newer Generation?" Only two generations? Dude, my man...even inconsequential stuff like My Little Pony has 5 generations now. |
| The older generation was much better because they focused on denser narratives, characterization, and lots of action to the forefront. |
Howdym8Sep 24, 2021 5:44 AM
| Weird. Series like Furubasket, and Fate should be in Older Generation instead of New Generation. Funny that OP included Steins;Gate in Older Gen even though it aired several years later after those two afro-mentioned series. Anyway, old. |
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| I would say both are good for me, but If i have to choose, I prefer older generation. |
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Why do you think 2013 is the cutting mark? I'd say 2016 is the cutting mark because My hero academia marked a new age for battle shounen genre. When you think about it, My hero academia is the most oldest battle shounen in this new generation. |
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| Thats not a fair comparison. The new generation only has anime from 2013 and on while the older one has 20 years or more of content. I still think the older is better but isn't a fair comparison at all. I also dont know why you have Gintama as old generation since it has a lot of seasons post 2013 and most of them are the highest rated on MAL. I understand if you guide yourself by the manga but if that's the case you have a lot of changes to make |
DinoPapiroSep 24, 2021 6:16 AM
| Isn't the original fruits basket from 2001 (so old gen?) Anyway, even though AoT was what got me into anime, I'm gonna say older gen. Imo, they have been more enjoyable and have withstood the pass of time. |
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Erebus_Akeldama said: OverallQuestion's simple: Which one is better, the Older Generation of Anime, or the Newer Generation? Now I'm going to cut the line where Attack on Titan is in the newer generation, anything before is in the older generation (it wouldn't be fair if it would be in the older generation) Now I'm expecting alot of newcomers to prefer the newer generation because be why things like Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, Vinland Saga, and a stupid amount of Isekai. But there are alot of Older anime that just hit different (not to mention nostalgia factor) For me, I'm going with Older Generation. While most of my favorite anime are from the newer generation, the older shows that I've seen will never hit the same compared to the newer ones coming out. Since both of my fav manga(Or fav series of all time) are from the older generation...(Pandora hearts and tsubasa chronicles) soo that However If only anime is concerned you should have included Haikyuu Link click Assassination classroom Violet evergarden Love is war Maquia A silent voice From the new world(Shinsekai yori) RUn with the wind Atleast No offence but believe you havent included a good chunk of new generation shows in order to make this comparison which automatically makes the older better for most people.(COnsidering most the shows listed in the old are nostalgic or highy acclaimed ones) In other words its an unfair comparison. ALso fate and fruba are old(before 2010 even if you are talking about anime) So considering Assassination classroom and hxh are tied for me and it comes to shounen Anime only and since most of my favs currently are from the new generation. I would select that to be better Edit A person also pointed out that older generation is like 30 years before 2013... And as I have observed alot of people ignore the bad shows(The legend of galactic heroes for example) made in those years. So going by that..yeah the comparison is quite biased and unfair in my opinion |
234MannanSep 24, 2021 6:35 AM
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alshu said: "Older Generation or Newer Generation?" Only two generations? Dude, my man...even inconsequential stuff like My Little Pony has 5 generations now. My Little Pony is far superior to ever be compared with such things. |
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Scordolo said: Why do you think 2013 is the cutting mark? I'd say 2016 is the cutting mark because My hero academia marked a new age for battle shounen genre. When you think about it, My hero academia is the most oldest battle shounen in this new generation. Cause the newer generation wouldn't stand a single chance in a million years if Attack on Titan got put with the older generation. The older generation is already goated as it is, it doesn't need another to be put on it. |
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| -How tf Steins;Gate is part of the older generation while Fruits Basket has an anime in 2001 yet you put it with the newer generation? -You put the Fate series in the newer generation yet the original visual novel came out in the 2000s and an anime adaptation before AoT. -You put Jojo's Bizarre in the older generation yet you ignore the modern anime adaptations. -You didn't include a lot of influential anime, bad or good: SAO, Elfen Lied, Madoka Magica. |
NurguburuSep 24, 2021 6:37 AM
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| They are both great, but maybe I still prefer the older generation. |
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Tendo_GM said: Fate/Stay Night came out in 2006, it’s older than some of the “Older Generation” anime you mentioned… That's why dividing anime based on a subjective mainstream anime is a bad idea, its worse cuz i found several contradictions in the poll. I could do the same thing with Tokyo Ghoul in 2014, FMAB in 2009, MHA in 2016, Death Note in 2006 or SAO in 2012. Its better if they are divided based on years. And OP being suddenly toxic to me in a reply didn't help either. |
NurguburuSep 24, 2021 6:53 AM
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| There's nothing "old" about most of the "older generation" anime you have in that poll. |
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| Of course the older gen coz here's the thing: 1. 90% of the anime you listed here only consist of mainstream, shounen and/or action. Imo most great old gen anime are rather those lesser popular ones from a lot of other genres. 2. If i were you i'd rather pick 2011 as the starting point for the new gen instead of 2013 coz; 3. not just it balances the time period more by being 2 years older; 4. especially seeing how you never specified how far back this "old gen" is. I mean you probably meant 1986 since that was when DB, the oldest of the oldies came out but ultimately idk; 5. it was also the year when a new burst of "good" anime eg Madoka Magica, HxH, Steins;Gate, Nichijou, Gosick, Fate/Zero etc were released after a rather dull 2nd half of 2010. 6. Added that 2011 anime imo kinda set a new tone that the rest of the medium have been following since (though this is gonna be another separate long discussion so i'm fine to leave it here if you want to). However, i do agree that generally speaking old anime were better than new or more specifically from early 1995 to mid 2010 (when fmab ended). As for pre-1995 anime I honestly haven't seen enough of them so i can't really say. |
TRC_RandySep 24, 2021 7:36 AM
| How do we define old and new gen? One piece is still going when half of "new gen" has ended. And Code geass and AoT are closer to release than CG and Eva. Op just put better shows overall in old, and hence the results. |
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light_straight said: I'm guessing by the time anime adaptation aired.How do we define old and new gen? One piece is still going when half of "new gen" has ended. And Code geass and AoT are closer to release than CG and Eva. Op just put better shows overall in old, and hence the results. But then again, OP for some reason put Furubasket and Fate on New Gen, which actually had anime adaptation on 2000's decade..... If taking to the source material, FB was first released in 1998, while Fate VN was in 2004. Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
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| tbh, some of the anime you mentioned in older generation are not even that old, older generation of anime (1970-90) is shit, it has only some good anime and mid anime, most were short ova's, which were not even mid, 2000-2015, was the peak of anime EDIT: i don't know what OP is doing here, if he's considering the source material or the adaptations, cuz if you are considering source materials then fate should be in old generation also 2013 can't be the starting point of new genration, it should be 2010-11, also you added an anime from 1989, then you add anime from 2011 in the same gen, thats unfair cuz new gen only has 8 years of content while, while old gen has 23 years and the last thing, you didn't add many good anime from the new generation for example, your name, a slient voice, parasyte (if you are considering the adaptation), diamond no ace, oregairu, haikyuu, ping pong the animation (if you are considering the adaptation), zankyou no terror.......................its almost like you did it on purpose |
0__Raven__0Sep 24, 2021 8:03 AM
| This is heavily biased, older generation is going from 2013- whenever anime started, newer generation is 2013-2021, it would have been better if you put a closing line on "older generation" as well, like 2000-2013, also you should have mentioned better shows for new gen, like Vinland, Odd Taxi, Haikyuu, etc |
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| When I think of older gen, I think of Hajime no Ippo, Rurouni Kenshin, Bleach, Mushishi, Eva, Ashita no Joe, Baccano, Higurashi etc etc. The ones u mentioned in ur older gen are shows that still have had content air alongside the newer gen. I don't exactly count them in a certain era, they run on their own rules. Also, Fate is more older gen than newer gen. The "Newer gen" was arguably started by SAO, so I think rather than AOT, SAO should be ur dividing point. As for the actual question, I do like older anime but I think I prefer the newer gen. |
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| Why are you putting 8 years of anime up against 27 years (given your examples)? I'm sorry, 8 years is not only not old it's far off a generation. Why wouldn't you just use real life generations or something pivotal in the industry like when Cel animation was dying off en masse; circa 2002? Real life generations would offer more categories but still be insufficient for Gen A due to the lack of time. Considering generations are generally 15 years, it's probably best to go backwards from today in increments of 15 years, for the sake of the thought experiment. Before Gen X were the Baby Boomers, 1960 was the first anime, which could also serve as the starting point in terms of generations. Gen X - 1965-1980 Millennials - 1981-1996 Gen Z - 1997-2012 Gen A - 2013-2027 |
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Nurguburu said: Tendo_GM said: Fate/Stay Night came out in 2006, it’s older than some of the “Older Generation” anime you mentioned… That's why dividing anime based on a subjective mainstream anime is a bad idea, its worse cuz i found several contradictions in the poll. I could do the same thing with Tokyo Ghoul in 2014, FMAB in 2009, MHA in 2016, Death Note in 2006 or SAO in 2012. Its better if they are divided based on years. And OP being suddenly toxic to me in a reply didn't help either. Yea, he didn’t actually elaborate what year separates Newer and Older generation, some anime in Newer Generation are older than some in the Old Generation so it’s a pretty dumb list |
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Lunilah said: Why are you putting 8 years of anime up against 27 years (given your examples)? I'm sorry, 8 years is not only not old it's far off a generation. Why wouldn't you just use real life generations or something pivotal in the industry like when Cel animation was dying off en masse; circa 2002? I think widespread adoption of streaming services and Crunchyroll going legal. Is a reasonable shift in the anime industry around Attack on Titan. Also pitting 8 years versus 27 isn't that unreasonable when you consider the massive increase in output. We get more in a season now than some of those older years. |
GreenPlatinum said: I think that would be 2008 for Crunchyroll going legit, but as for western consumption it would have to go further back with Toonami. But both are good barometers for making a distinction of eras.Lunilah said: Why are you putting 8 years of anime up against 27 years (given your examples)? I'm sorry, 8 years is not only not old it's far off a generation. Why wouldn't you just use real life generations or something pivotal in the industry like when Cel animation was dying off en masse; circa 2002? I think widespread adoption of streaming services and Crunchyroll going legal. Is a reasonable shift in the anime industry around Attack on Titan. Also pitting 8 years versus 27 isn't that unreasonable when you consider the massive increase in output. We get more in a season now than some of those older years. While i agree the output of anime has increased, the idea here is that the timeframe of when something was released would be unique to the culture and norms of that time, so when you compare generations you'll see notable differences. Meaning, in the spirit of comparing the different eras of anime, the quantity doesn't really matter in comparison to the content that makes up a show. |
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| Every generation has good shows and shit shows. |
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Scordolo said: I'm saying in reference to this post. Like, since this user has defined the old / new generation as 2013, that's where I'm cutting it.Why do you think 2013 is the cutting mark? I'd say 2016 is the cutting mark because My hero academia marked a new age for battle shounen genre. When you think about it, My hero academia is the most oldest battle shounen in this new generation. |
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| The older one and it's not even a contest. And I'm actually surprised it's the currently winning option, considering this is MyAnimeList after all. |
SoldierDream said: The older one and it's not even a contest. And I'm actually surprised it's the currently winning option, considering this is MyAnimeList after all. Nah, 90% people who are active on forums usually dislike popular anime, so it's no surprise that the elder generation is winning. |
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| Let's give this shitty OP some time to restart his brain. May be in next year, he'll understand the difference between older and newer generation. |
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