Fuuka x Kukuru?

Yuri-Crusader said:
I don't know

P.A.Works seems to dislike lesbians and doesn't want to acknowledge their existence. Look at their previous work. Bait and more bait. Real lesbians cant exist in their world, they just use them for bait

Because it's P.A.Works and their history in Yuri bait, I sadly believe that ship is doomed to sink

Hrybami said:


There's a gay character in Haruchika. P.A. Works doesn't dislike same-sex relationship. They just didn't made a homosexual romance yet. Aquatope is their first anime with actual yuri bait.

Hrybami said:


There's a gay character in Haruchika. P.A. Works doesn't dislike same-sex relationship. They just didn't made a homosexual romance yet. Aquatope is their first anime with actual yuri bait.

Piromysl said:



Hanasaku Iroha and Sakura Quest, both had much more "clear" yuri bait than this, but Ohana even had a male love interest, so I really doubt any lesbian romance will come out of it. But it is anime original, so we'll see.
Also, MC of Haruchika was widely considered as one of the worst of 2016, so I disadvise to take an example from a bad writing.
Anyway, if you perceive any interaction between two female characters as "yuri bait", then no offense, but you might have spent too much time on Tumblr or Twitter.

Hrybami said:


Hanasaku Iroha and Sakura Quest didn't have clear yuri bait at all. It was obviously fan-service kind of tease and not in a romantical way while in Aquatope the teasing doesn't revolve around fan-service and more in a romantic way. The scene where they touched cheek to see if they can understand each other more was screaming yuri bait. Last episode they slept together while holding hand. They might see each other as sisters and it also might be the intention of the writer. However that doesn't exclude the possibility of a shoujo ai story since the point of a coming of age romance anime is that the characters don't quite fully understand their feelings. The relationship in Aquatope look more like the ones in other shoujo ai anime than in regular friendship anime like Sakura Quest or Hanasaku Iroha.

I have never heard about Haruchika MC being the worst of 2016 lol. I thought this anime was good.

I don't even know what Tumblr is and I can't access Twitter because I've never created an account there. And it's not "any interaction" either. The way Fuuka involve herself in Kukuru's life despite barely knowing her is something closer to love-interest or a family rather than any friendship.

Piromysl said:
You seriously do think, that any form of interaction between two characters of the same sex make them homosexual, don't you? Well, it doesn't. And it doesn't look like in other shoujo ai anime, but rather in CGDCT.

Piromysl said:
On top of that, not writer nor director have any experience in any LGBT anime, so...

Piromysl said:
Anyway, Kukuru clearly said to the camera, that "she would want to have a sister like her", so there your ship sinks.

Hrybami said:
What are you talking about? You're the one who said that Hanasaku Iroha and Sakura Quest had yuri baits. I'm the one who said the opposite. That it's not any interaction that makes them homosexual.

Hrybami said:
There's a beginning to everything. Don't you think?

Hrybami said:
You know, relationships and feelings aren't static things. I doubt anyone actually expected those two to become lovers right at the start. Or in other words, it's actually pretty common to have relationship development later on which compromise earlier feelings aka realization.

Piromysl said:
I'd rather believe, that studio decided to carry on the checked formula. Dismissed.

Piromysl said:
We are at episode 9 and there is still no development of their romantic relationship in sight, yet their comradery is getting stronger.
I am safely assuming, that PA is doing yet another show with cute girls and their comradery at the workplace at the forefront.

RobertBobert said:
@WatchTillTandava Careful with that, Anthony Mackie has already been canceled just because he asked why any character's friendship nowadays should be perceived as potential romance, lol.

WatchTillTandava said:
I'm not anti-lesbian/same-sex relationships, but I do not personally see any either credible evidence or even hints or subtext indicating any kind of romantic or sexual relationship, affection, or interest.

It is possible for two people, whether of opposite sex or of the same sex, to develop a mutually deep relationship, a strong friendship, and even a type of platonic love which is more similar to familial love without anything being remotely romantic and/or sexual about it.

In the last episode, Kukuru even refers explicitly to seeing and desiring to see Fuuka as a big sister figure, despite their close proximity in age. I was actually shocked that a line like that was stated that explicitly when I had previously seen it tossed around in all the conversations on the forum here speculating about the nature of their relationship and future direction and development of said relationship. If anything, that seemed like something of an overt final nail in the coffin for the romantic "shippers'" theories.

I also don't know why people see any depiction of a growing bond between two characters of the same sex in anime (in all media, really) and interpret that to in any way mean the likelihood or even inevitability of a romantic relationship. People also do the same for characters of the opposite sex, which is also wrong and often jumping the gun, but at least just probability-wise that's more likely based on the percentage of the human population which are heterosexuals relative to homosexuals or (at least conscious and practicing) bisexuals.

One aspect about this I also heavily dislike is the unspoken yet inherent implication in this mindset that platonic and familial love are less serious, real, meaningful, valuable, or valid as romantic love. That a relationship must become romantic for it to be worthwhile or mean anything, and otherwise is worthy of being dismissed.

If it goes in that direction then it goes in that direction, but right now it just seems to me that people project this on to any two same-sex characters who are not blood relatives.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
sure lol. whatever you say. keep telling yourself that

WatchTillTandava said:


I think the disconnect stems from the fact that some people seem to only view physical intimacy as romantic and/or sexual whereas I think this ignores familial and other forms of platonic love and affection which can be equally fervent and are significant.

As I indicated in my post though, I have no stake either way in the outcome of this. I would be fine if they pursued a romantic relationship, pursued a sibling relationship, or found out they were actual siblings and...still pursued a romantic relationship. I have no problem with many kinds of relationships. I'm just speaking logically about the assumed trajectory based on all evidence and indicators I've seen so far. That analysis isn't a declaration of a desired outcome on my part. My only desire is that whichever form of relationship and, on a meta level, which overall style of story and direction the show itself pursues, that it will be executed at a high caliber.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
what sibling relationship says to touch me?

WatchTillTandava said:


The best kind, I'd say. Physical affection is a common part of many, if not most, human relationships; including familial ones.

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
uh yeah sure dude.. lmfao hey let me rub your back. and wash your back. maybe change your clothes next time. maybe a hand job after?

Judevin said:
FUUKA X KUKURU SHIP GOES BRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I know it won't happen because they're trying really hard to play that "sister" card, but I would love to see it happen. I have become a shipper just for these two chicks at this point.

I love how the OP's question is "Do you ship them" but the replies are like "No they can't be gay because they're just friends or sister REEEEEEEEE gay in muh animu is bad >:((((" like just say "No I don't ship them" and go brah fucking hell.

Swagernator said:
Im trying very hard, but your reply till now is the only one with animu in it.

Judevin said:
Indeed, I used what is referred to as 'hyperbole' in English.
If you actually look at my sentence carefully, that sentence has not even once been used in this entire thread, it is a complete fabrication meant to be sarcastic, unfortunately for me, you took it rather literally.

I hope I helped you in learning English though! I know it is a tough language to master, I'm a native speaker and even I have problems sometime. :)

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
sure lol. whatever you say. keep telling yourself that

Kayle_x_Morgana said:
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What else would "i never realized you felt that way" whilst putting each others hands on each others cheeks and blushing.

Raptors0verlord said:


I take it that you never saw Sound! Euphonium

Kayle_x_Morgana said:


believe i heard about it but it is music so didn't watch

Piromysl said:
Now, it seems there is something brewing between Kai and Kukuru, so this ship is sinking even deeper.

Hrybami said:


lol. The Yuri bait might be even worse in hibike Euphonium.

Rachiba said:
If it happens and it does, sure what could go wrong?

From another point of view, we are only halfway through the program and it is early to draw conclusions.

RobertBobert said:
Ironically, even the original LN, which has a strong straight romantic subplot, was perceived as gay by shippers. That's all you need to know about interpretations

RobertBobert said:
@Piromysl Every time I try to understand the logic of Western shippers, it seems to me that the United States is an extremely conservative country, where any, even the most subtle intimacy between people of the same sex is immediately perceived as suspicious. I mean, hell, Russia is a homophobic country, but our girls hold hands all the time and no one thinks it's weird.

RobertBobert said:
Every time I try to understand the logic of Western shippers, it seems to me that the United States is an extremely conservative country, where any, even the most subtle intimacy between people of the same sex is immediately perceived as suspicious. I mean, hell, Russia is a homophobic country, but our girls hold hands all the time and no one thinks it's weird.

Hrybami said:


I don't see the world in either black or white. Things can be more than one thing or could be nothing at all. That's why relying on interpretation is more important than trying to find definitive conclusions to everything.



Subtle intimacy could be perceived as suspicious depending on the context and how you would interpret it. I think where you fail to understand is on the limit of the interpretation itself. Interpreting something as potentially gay doesn't mean you think for sure that they are gay. You can do things that could be considered gay depending on the given context while it doesn't make you gay. Like, going in a gay bar could be interpreted as being gay, but if he's just a straight guy accompanying a friend, then that doesn't make him gay. Instead, we should rather trust what people say e.g. if someone says he's gay, then we should trust him. It's not the interpreter to decide if they are gay although they are authorized to give their opinions.

Piromysl said:


what

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RobertBobert said:


Tell that to the girls from Genshin fandom who attack men, as their love for Ei somehow insults their headcanon that she is a lesbian. Or the slashers from AOT fandom, who wrote death threats to the author due to the fact that at some point he finally destroyed their fantasies that Eren was gay.

Justifying the interpretation by saying that you can interpret things is an argument to an argument, and I'm not going to bother with that. Especially when most of the queer readings are cherry picking

Hrybami said:


What the actual fcuk? You're seriously labelling the west with the worst thing you can find on internet?

RobertBobert said:


And by what people should I base my opinion on the West? I literally see myself or hear about the next such shit literally every day.

Hrybami said:


Maybe try to look into things with a more constructive view. I've lived in Canada my whole life and it's the very first time I've ever heard something like that. And no, I don't live in my basement. I've studied and worked to a lot of place and I met a lot of people from across the country. The things you're trying to criticize from the west seems like extremely isolated case. Literally nobody has issue recognizing platonic relationships here.

RobertBobert said:


Ironically, even the original LN, which has a strong straight romantic subplot, was perceived as gay by shippers. That's all you need to know about interpretations.

@Piromysl Every time I try to understand the logic of Western shippers, it seems to me that the United States is an extremely conservative country, where any, even the most subtle intimacy between people of the same sex is immediately perceived as suspicious. I mean, hell, Russia is a homophobic country, but our girls hold hands all the time and no one thinks it's weird.



Do you think that it is too early to draw conclusions, but at the same time you think that this will definitely happen? I don't quite understand your comment.

Mel0nM4fia said:
Why is it whenever all of yall see two people of the same gender develop close bonds you immediately think it's LGBT and get pissy when it's eventually shown it's not a romantic relationship lol. Maybe they just like each other as close friends like how people in real life do lmao