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Poll: Heion Sedai no Idaten-tachi Episode 5 Discussion


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Aug 12, 9:58 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Piscalat vs. Ysley, Neput vs. Prontea, and Cory vs. Hayato and Paula, this showdown will prove one thing clear of who's superior.

LOLS Paula kicking Cory in the nuts, well that's one way of defeating a demon. Against Prontea, Neput stands no chance at all, so he lends help to Paula and Hayato. But Hayato wants to play it fair and square through brute power to get stronger.

Flash bombs to render the demons fazed, that's scientific knowledge for Ysley to play strategically against Piscalat with mind games and risk. That's a nice pair of boobs there, Pisacalat, you'd make a good living test subject for Ysley's research. NASTY! And with that, the trio of demons are done for good being subjected to Ysley to brainwash their human brains.

Miku exudes pure Interspecies Reviewers feelings though, she's a masochist and mind controller to the nun who got captured with the other women slaves. Now that's some mind orgasm right there. The seaman employee Pete that is always being harassed by Miku, damn you got the fanservice good.

The fast-forward explanations are back to cease the infodump (NGL, this is creativity at its best) and Piscalat, Cory and Neput help in piecing more puzzles of the Zoble Empire to the Idatens. As such, Miku is the new threat of the Zoble Empire, and has already figured out Rin's motive: protecting the 800-year-old seal of the demon tribe on the tall island cliff, but problems exist for them that could make their progress backfire.

Seriously thinking, if Demon Lord Over-M a.k.a Obami is an Idaten, that would make the most sense out of possible theories. But as it is, the correlation is difficult to link up. For now, more training...and Ysley might already have an idea for everything. Question is, will he arrive at the result faster than Miku can conceive?
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Aug 12, 10:01 AM
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Hmm, something even more interesting happens. Can't wait for the next episode
 
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A very dialogue heavy strategy episode filled with lots of cultured moments. Seems like things are about to take off from here with Miku being the main focus from now on.

ALL HAIL EMPEROR OBAMA!
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Man... this is one of those shows where the villains are literally scared to go against the good guys where you start to feel bad for the bad guys. I just love it so much. Such a fun ride so far. Miku seems kinda fun to have around. LMAO. Some interesting theories popped up as well.

Another good episode. Really having fun watching this show. Looking forward to the next week's episode.
 
 
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Aug 12, 10:29 AM

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Piscalat etc got beat and Ysley directly modified their brain, that's actually a clever way to safely use them, Miku seems to be the most interesting character as expected, and we'll get revelations/confirmation about the maou sama next? This theory is very interesting
 
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Aug 12, 10:32 AM
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Yea we need idaten doujinshi expeditiously. A LOT of material from this ep alone. Miku is great, the general v Ysley was great and I’m looking forward to seeing how she’s incorporated into the group.

Ysley may not have the raw strength of Rin or Hayato but his intelligence and cunningness is downright scary.

As soon as the “demon lord” said Rin’s name I instantly started wondering how he knew it. She never identified herself in the fight and none of the demons would know it. Looks like my theory about him being an idaten was correct

Also so glad to see the nun still alive, albeit a masochist now and looks like she’ll become relevant soon.

Edit: hearing the ep was heavily censored from the source so Ima check that out soon
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Having demons join the Idaten really is something only Ysley would think of. Them acting as spies would be really cool though.

What's the true identity of the "Demon" Lord I wonder?
 
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I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.

 
 
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This show is getting dangerously close to pipping Dragon Maid as my show of the season, didn't think I'd say that a few weeks ago.
 
Aug 12, 10:46 AM
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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.


Waw, what a horny dude
 
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A very great fight in the beginning. Prontea single handedly beat Neput and was just chilling on the mountain. Hayato and Paul vs Cory took a bit longer. Actually a few hours. Well, the Idaten won without Rin's help. There are only 3 other demons who can actually hurt them.

Ysley's one of the most interesting characters in this anime. Just told us how he got all this information about humans (dissecting them). The fight against Prontea was a bit too easy for him. Even flashed her oppais for us.

After all the fights, Ysley messed with their brains and turned them into lab rats. They're somehow useful now for Hayato. And they got some knowlegde about the demons.

And finally, we see Miku again.. Her character design is just *chef kiss*. And that play with the nun was just *chef kiss*. Sadly, someone had to interrupt her..

I really like how they explain things to us. The speedy explanation that we get is understandable and they save a lot of time by doing that.

Thanks to the Demon Lord spitting Rin's name by accident, Miku figured out that he's not just a ''Demon Lord'' but something else. Which made her release that he's a FAKE one. Curious what she will do now..

And Ysley is on the right spot too. His mind kinda works the same as Miku, she might be a little smarter than him. Paula was a bit useful too this time xD

Interesting what they will do now. If the Demon Lord is an Idaten made by demon thoughts then we really need some explanation. Pretty sure they'll explain everything in the next episode.

They might go after the seal in the next episode. Someone might just launce some rockets at it xD


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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.



Might just read the manga after seeing that image..


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I'm so happy that Piscalat didn't die, she's the hottest girl in 2021.

I hope we'll have more fanservice now.
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Well, no problems for our Itaden. This confirms that Ysley is the best 😌

Hmmm, Miku has surprised me, quite good eyesight, and other things... ( ͡• ͜ʖ ͡• )

Fck, but tell me before the end of the episode, it's only one word, AAAAAAAA
 
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Piscalat’s so fucking hot, the fan service scenes of her were great. The nun is horny now, her and Miku’s scene was nice.
 
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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.

horny mf🤦‍♂
 
 
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SideCharacterKal said:
DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.



Might just read the manga after seeing that image..
I think they adapt the web comic and not the manga.
 
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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.

Oh my god, how dare they?! And look how big they are... I bet it's 'cause they wanted to lower the age rating, dammit
 
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Considering she had I think four men have their way with her, the nun is unexpectedly...ok. Sorry but can't get horny when a serious matter was that light-heartedly addressed, and not only that but played as a fanservice setup for horny virgins. Artistically the series is very good, and the whole martial arts (not really) aesthetic is also well accepted, but it already has a yellow card for me.
 
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Ah yes, surgically altering the brains of the intelligent demons to brainwash them to your side. At least they didn't just say "Heal!" and say that brainwashed the woman.

And since we are on the topic of... that show, villainizing by sexual asault is certainly a... choice. I don't think using those types of crimes to make the bad guys bad is a great decision, but we already had *that* scene in episode 1 so I don't know what I expected.

At least the visuals are still cool. Oh, and the story is still fun too, it really begins to dawn how much of a disadvantage the demons have. I am interested in how they will find a way to try to defeat the heroes.
 
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Ysley just developed a new Talk no Jutsu technique. Nice.
 
Aug 12, 12:24 PM

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So an info dump but also political intrigues episode?
I like the reveals and the twists.
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Miku is a real problem. I can't f**king read the subtitles
I'm glad we are all going to die
 
Aug 12, 12:58 PM

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I’m glad to see the nun doing somewhat well after her “experience.” The way the camera moved around Piscalat made me think she was going to get raped by Ysley Thank god that didn’t happen, however, the brain alteration was still brutal
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Not sure if I should root for the gods or the demons at this point, sure the demons want to take over the world but the ruthless nature of the gods don't seem to make them any better not to mention just look at the poor things almost pissing themselves after miscalculating how powerful the gods are.
 
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OPPAIIII OPPAIII OPPAIIIII OPPAIIII OPPAIIII
The aphrodisiac scene was a masterpiece and the re-education of women is the funniest shit ever
 
 
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More depictions of rape and flying sperm, I see.

And color me surprised, the nun returns. The manga being as explicit as it was with what happened to her I did NOT see her return coming AT ALL.

Her conversation with the empress seems to be setting up a confrontation with the Idaten that may make for some juicy character development on the Idaten's part, maybe?

A man can dream.

I just hope they don't go the route of the horny nun and play it for "laughs". Would be kind of ... depressing. Kinda like how it's being suggested that she's come to...ugh..."like" being violated (when she thought "You didn't have to stop right away.").

Not gonna lie the anime is getting a little more intriguing with the new questions raised.

Perhaps the demon lord is Rin's grandfather (or was it father?) or one of the Idaten that was around when the others got sealed away 800 years ago?

I really like the power they gave Miku. God (ahem, demon) tier observation skills.

The more unsavoury bits aside, anime's getting gooder, bring on next ep
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This was a great episode!
I get to see Pisara drown in aphrodisiac <3 and her boobs are nice and big.
Guiltina (The nun) makes her return, fuck yes! I knew she enjoyed that pleasure she went through. ~
Let's not forget my girl Miku!! Finally, we get to see more of her! And what's great is that she was playing with Guiltina which was hot. More Yuri action soon? would love to see it!
More fanservice would be appreciated.
Loli hentai is hot! ;)
 
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Wait wait wait. Did Ysley actually say he dissected lots of humans?

Between the demons who are bent on world domination and idaten like Ysley and Rin who was ready to wipe out a country a few episodes back, the humans in this anime are pretty much fucked.





 
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If anything, the Demons have some insane hotties among them. Piscalat and Miku are both delicious to look at!

I love how Piscalat thought that Ysley was gonna do "sexy stuff" with her but heavily underestimated him for being the scientist that he is. It makes me wonder what Ysley did to Piscalat, to make her sound so funny in the beginning. Seems they are no longer hostile as well. Those experiments sure did a number on them. Also did he say that he cut open a lot of humans? I better hope they were already dead before he did that...

Miku is sexy af, but that girl can read a person's behavior like open books. That could lead to some interesting situations, just like the sister, when she knew exactly what the sister was thinking.

DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.


Holy shit, that's really quite the toning down of the source, what a shame. At least that convinced me to read the manga.
 
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So Idaten dont care about humans, but care about human politics. That's dumb.
 
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Ysley actually did a 5head move on Piscalat
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I might have underestimated Ysley a bit, that brainwashing of demons seems kinda OP.
Glad that Piscalat is still around, looking forward to more fanservice.
 
 
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That opening scene was so funny when Paula kicked Corey right in the ding ding. I instantly felt Corey's pain after seeing that. Prontea was able to win his fight against Neput easily while Ysley was able to literally break Piscalat mentally. With all three demons beaten, Ysley took the opportunity to do some brain surgery on them so they are good guys now. The nun that got raped in episode 1 seems to be in high spirits, but she had a taste of what pleasure feels like and she wasn't able to resist Miku's foreplay. We also find out that this so called Demon Lord might be a Idaten since mentioned Rin's name in front of Miku. Meanwhile, Ysley knows who this mystery this mystery Demon Lord really is.

DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.



What chapter is that in the manga?
 
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Ysley with the big brain moves, reprogramming the demons so that now they're on their side. Looks like that will make way for some interesting developments going forward.

Also please I need Miku and Piscalat to step on me expeditiously 😩
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Ahh^^

Only Anime can make Doujinshi's and "Im so fkin offended" -Threads pop up at the exact same rate.

Gotta love it.
 
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This is my fav guilty pleasure manga and anime now. I love this show and hate it at the same time, I am so bipolar......
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the sister appeared again in the episode since that controversial ending of the first episode, a lot of good fights and it was a very interesting episode.

 
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The Nun is slowly but surely losing to Temptation...I actually do not know how I feel about it. It's still heavily implied she is being raped on the Daily.

Piscalat being alive and turned to the side of the Idaten FOR NOW made me happy. I like her a lot...and her tits.
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This was yet another banger episode, but I’m kinda sad Piscalat and the other demons lost so easily, I’m glad they weren’t killed off but it was also kinda brutal they were brainwashed and Piscalat is just willingly telling the Idaten everything she knows, it’s a shame but at least they’re not dead, they’re too fun to do that lol. Speaking of Piscalat tho, the fanservice was excellent, it’s a shame to hear that scene was toned down but it was still spicy nonetheless.

Also glad to see the nun again and for Miku to get some scenes.
 
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Wasn't expecting that much of info dump considering the episode set up but i'll take it. Nun is ok(well not exactly ok, but alive at least) although she's a prisoner and being treated like that.....ugh. Some gods the Idaten are though to humans.
 
 
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Aphrodisiac. Classic shit, and pretty slick you nerdy Idaten. Oh yeah lol Yssley straightly messing up their brain by using a surgical method right through their whole brain. I thought there's something more 'cultured'. But oh well, forget that Yssley was a complete nerd Idaten. So nevermind any culture time with the hot cruel general girl and straight right through what those damn based genius Idaten thinking to them.

In the other side, the double fights with Prontea and Hayato-Paula kinda underwhelming. Damn those demons really weak af, and yeah, as a result, straight to the surgery table you both xd.

Oh man, this Miku, i can see why she got the job. Reeducating the women, yeah, i get it. But no, not the nun, you~ oh well, thats good Miku. Nevermind before, don't know why i laugh when Miku laugh. Fuck that mess, she's broken. But, idk why i am hoping its served longer....

Well, back to the plot, as the pace don't let me break through the sweating moments before as ever. Miku and her great intuition finally break through Rin's dull stance and figure out why. The seal. Now when everyone looked into it, she's smelling something wrong with the demon lord. Thus same with the Idaten-tachi via those damn creative fast forward exposition dump, or whatever.

Good question y'all, whose that professor really is? When Yssley kinda found some answer, they cut it out right away on that. Fine, 1 week wait can not make me die!
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I'm gonna take a guess and say that Obami might be one of the Idaten from 800 years ago, and i'll take it a bit further and predict that he may be Rin's grandfather?
 
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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.

Actually, this is Amahara's work, the same guy who made the infamous Interspecies Reviewers. Cool simply provided the artwork.
 
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And here I was thinking this would be another brainless shounen. Well done to MAPPA to create such aesthetically pleasing scenes with their great choice of colour palettes.

Ysley's intelligence and immoral demeanor is now something I will look forward to in the upcoming episodes.

Thought Miku would be another fan service bimbo but she actually is a viable asset to the world building. Also, good to see the nun again, wonder what the anime will have in store for her. Maybe will be Miku's subordinate?

Looking forward to seeing the next episode, hasn't disappointed me so far. It's interesting seeing a god's perspective and their take on ethical values and humanity.
 
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Alright, this is now leading my AOTS rankings. It’s so free-flowing in how it tells its story while being fun, yet low-key smart and completely unapologetic in everything that it does. I haven’t felt a breath of fresh air like this in a long time. That doesn’t make it a masterpiece, but it certainly makes it my favorite of the season at this point.
 
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This show is so wacky and colorful in its presentation - it almost feels like classic Gainax stuff, or Trigger (when Trigger is at its best).

That said, Ysley has brainwashed Piscalat in to no longer being evil, which has completely ruined her. Ysley truly is the most vile character in this series.
 
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DarkDooM2 said:
I'm utterly disappointed with the lack of OPPAI in this episode. Fuck you, Mappa. FUCK YOU! Don't adapt a Cool-kyou Shinja work if you're afraid of naked bodies ffs.

If you think MAPPA is afraid doing boobs, sorry. They have done those before. And the reason why its censored is because of where the anime is broadcasting. Its Fuji TV Noitamina Programing Block. That place also censored lots of other show like Psycho Pass. So if you have problems, complain to the TV station. Dont pull MAPPA in here.
 
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This show is so wacky and colorful in its presentation - it almost feels like classic Gainax stuff, or Trigger (when Trigger is at its best).

That said, Ysley has brainwashed Piscalat in to no longer being evil, which has completely ruined her. Ysley truly is the most vile character in this series.
I would agree that just shunting them over to the Idaten's side is rather disappointing, especially considering there is no narrative downside to this. They retain their old personalities, knowledge and even their bodies pretty much completely intact.

However I like how Ysley is basically manipulating everyone, even his own team. He really is the embodiment of Sun Zu's principles of the Art of War. But at the same time it'd be nicer if they power up the enemies to be more of an equivalent match to both the insane power of the idaten and the intelligence of Ysley (which it looks like they've got covered with Miku), and also having more things go wrong. It gets kinda stale after a while watching everything go right over and over again.
 
 
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Watching Sonny Boy and this back to back every week is a real treat, you rarely get it in life.
 
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